Iggy should toughen up: McKenna

The Liberals are ‘dealing with thugs,’ says Frank McKenna

by John Geddes on Thursday, November 19, 2009 3:40pm - 142 Comments

Iggy should toughen up: McKennaFrank McKenna is the sort of retired politician whose elder-statesman status usually keeps him well clear of the partisan fray. But the former New Brunswick premier and Canadian ambassador to the U.S., now deputy chair of TD Bank Financial Group, had some surprisingly hard-nosed advice for Michael Ignatieff in an interview with Maclean’s: hit back at Conservative “thugs” with some Harper-style attack ads of your own.

McKenna didn’t pull any punches when asked what the federal Liberal leader should do about Tory ads that label him “just visiting” and “only in it for himself.” “I think you have to fire back,” he said. “My inclination is to use attack ads when you’re attacked.” As for the sort of adversaries the Liberals are up against in Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s tacticians, McKenna added, “They are dealing with thugs; they’ve got to fight back and fight hard.”

Speaking about the Liberal TV ads that featured Ignatieff talking quietly in an open-collared blue shirt, against a backdrop of sun-dappled forest, McKenna said, “I thought [they] were kind of light. They had no impact.” While the Tories put Harper in a sweater in a series of TV commercials to soften his image, McKenna doesn’t think Ignatieff’s persona needs any toning down.

In fact, he suggests Ignatieff consider sending a high-risk message. “Both Flaherty and Ignatieff coming out and saying we can get rid of this deficit without too much pain—you know, no tax increase, not going to have to cut the provinces and everything else—that’s not going to happen. Canadians know it’s not going to happen. If a political leader were to say, ‘There’s going to be real pain here and it’s going to be shared at every level,’ I think that would be a lot more honest statement.”

Ultimately, though, McKenna says the next election is Harper’s to lose, not Ignatieff’s to win. “Harper will end up either losing it or not,” he said. “The leader of the Liberal party just has to be a respectable alternative and wait for Harper to make a mistake.”

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  • http://intensedebate.com/people/HarveyMushman HarveyMushman

    You know…I respect Mr. McKenna a lot but I beg to differ with him on his assessment of Ignatieff needing to "toughen up."

    Anyone remember…."If you mess with me, I will mess with you until I'm done." And how about…"Mr. Harper, your time is up!" Pretty tough statements I'd say. My guess was that he was trying to project the opposite persona of the uberwimp-Dion…and it backfired on him. It was immediately following his no-compromise, tough talking…"I'm gonna bring Harper down" period that his (and Liberal) fortunes plunged in the polls .

    I think "tough guy" Ignatieff already failed because he is no more a tough guy than he is the Prince of Narnia. Canadians don't buy either marketing persona. Both are just too phony for the Canadian public to accept. He's an intellectual, a professor, a "great thinker" with "big ideas." At least he's supposed to be. We sure haven't seen much of great thinking and big ideas out of him though. Which leaves him as quite the hollow man in the eyes of voters. What we have seen is a guy who has flip flopped on virtually everything he's said and a guy who doesn't seem to have the people, or organizational skills to run a second-rate political party, let alone a country.

    The old paradigm of sitting, waiting and simply opposing the government, hoping they'll mess up is…or bloody well should be…obsolete. If Ignatieff is really going to usher in a new direction and era for the Liberals, tough talk and waiting are simply not going to do it.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Gaunilon Gaunilon

    Somewhere there is the world's tiniest violin. And it is playing solely for the Liberals, whose problems are entirely derived from the unprincipled thuggishness of their opponents.

    Yes, unprincipled thuggishness. Can you imagine such behaviour in a Canadian political party?

  • Ceeger

    McKenna says the Lib message should be: “Both Flaherty and Ignatieff coming out and saying we can get rid of this deficit without too much pain—you know, no tax increase, not going to have to cut the provinces and everything else—that’s not going to happen. Canadians know it’s not going to happen."
    The problem with this message is that Canadians know the Liberals and NDP continuously pushed for increased spending in order to keep the minority Parliament alive. The issue of the deficit is easily turned around on them, using publically available recorders and news coverage, since the Opposition parties are at least as culpable for it.

  • wellwell

    Mike, get some help.

  • Denis

    The point of the article is that one must respond to attack ads with counter-attacks. The only word seen in the comments is "thug". That clearly show the political color of the people commenting.

  • Mars

    Thugs–is that what McKenna & his cronies are!!!! HOw else would he know all about -such. "Iggy" simply doesn't have –"it"–2 get across 2 the people–if he has anything 2 get across? So far haven't heard a thing about policies- platforms-agendas–let alone -principals! Eveytime he opens his mouth– it's all about himself–thought he was there 2 form a new liberal party– well– keep it up– as I —4 one– would never vote liberal anyhow– thugs–is their best description!!!

  • http://laurencemiall.com/ Laurence Miall

    This is exactly the kind of block-headed advice that makes many Canadians despair of the current state of politics. The PM is a thug, so behave like a thug right back.

    Ignatieff has already tried his utmost to sound tough; it's not working. He's not demonstrating any tangible way in which he'd take Canada in a different direction. We need leadership on the economy, the environment, and a host of other issues. We need to find a way to exit from Afghanistan. We need to stop the provinces from continuing their lurch into a bunch of squabbling and selfish fiefdoms. We need to give young people a reason to care about politics. How about cleaning out the old guard from the Liberal Party? How about presenting a policy platform? How about talking to us like adults instead of children?

  • Bob MacKenzie

    I am a life-long conservative and make no apology for it. I have voted only once for a liberal, David Peterson, and sincerely regret the lapse – could not vote conservative on that occasion, conservative philosophy notwithstanding. Our current conservative leader is no conservative and I am desperately hoping for an honest man/woman to step forward and takes the reins of real leadership in this country. That man is among us and I tell everyone who will listen that he should be encouraged in the best interest of this country to answer the call to work to secure Canada's future – that man is Frank McKenna. That he is a liberal and former Premier of New Brunswick should qualify him straight away. That he is an honest man and tireless worker who plays no games and whose integrity can be relied upon to address the issues in a thoughtful and focussed way makes him our best opportunity for the kind of leadership this country desperately needs NOW. So, if anyone is listening to this and agrees, especially highly placed citizens of the liberal persuasion, please get off your comfortable butts and get this man in the top chair before its too late. Make him an offer he simply cannot refuse. Draft Frank McKenna NOW.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/tpholmes tpholmes

    The Liberal election strategy has consistently been to "wait for the other side to screw up". It used to work really well. The last few elections, it hasn't been as successful.

  • Lillianvoter

    Can't believe all the thin-skinned Tory supporters who can't stand to hear the truth about Harper's Conservatives. I have followed Harper and his political career since back in the days when he was a Reform Party member…and he has become more and more intolerant of the views of others and more and more mean-spirited over the years. To the point where I would indeed describe him and people he surrounds himself with as" thugs". There is no way I ever want this guy to lead a majority government as he has zero respect for the millions of people who do not support his views. He has NO IDEA how to forge a consensus on any issue…it is always "my way or the highway" type of attitude.

    And for all you who claim to have cancelled your TD accounts/mortgages…you are either incredibly silly or engaging in the same type of misinformation that your hero, Harper, does on a regular basis. I guess the apple doesn't fall far from the tree when you decide to check your brain at the door when trying to engage in serious debate.

  • http://www.bluelikeyou.com/ Joanne (T.B.)

    I think if this comment came from an elected MP that would be one thing, but for a man who is fairly high-up in the corporate ladder of a Canadian bank, it seems somewhat out of place.

    McKenna should decide if he's in public life or private.

  • Craig O

    Private citizens can't have and express opinions about politicians and their actions? Come on, basic freedom of speech – the comments aren't on any inner workings between TD and the federal government, they're about basic political maneouvering and financial policy, so there's no conflict of interest.

    Disagreeing with McKenna's comments is one thing, but implying that he has no right to say it is out of line.

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