The most important book on the Hill

by Mitchel Raphael on Monday, November 30, 2009 12:06pm - 34 Comments

The launch of the second edition of House of Commons Procedure and Practice was held in the Speaker’s dining room. Speaker Peter Milliken (left) with the book’s co-editors Audrey O’Brien, Clerk of the House of Commons and Marc Bosc, Deputy Clerk.

 

NDP MP Peter Stoffer gets his copy autographed by O’Brien.

 

O’Brien with Liberal whip Rodger Cuzner.

 

Milliken (left) with Liberal MP Paul Szabo.

 

Deputy Speaker Andrew Scheer and Milliken.

 

Conservative MP Rod Bruinooge.

 

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  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Jack_Mitchell Jack Mitchell

    When are they going to get around to publishing the companion volume, that fabled Tory classic, Frustrating House of Commons Procedure and Practice? They'd look great together in a two-book slipcase.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Sir_Francis Sir_Francis

      When are they going to get around to publishing…Frustrating House of Commons Procedure and Practice?

      I believe a limited edition volume is due to be published–in heavily redacted form–and distributed to friendly media hacks whenever Christie Blatchford finishes bowdlerising the galleys.

  • Dot

    I'm gonna wait for the movie.

  • MJ Patchouli

    FINALLY the speaker is dressed appropriately for the occasion!

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Jack_Mitchell Jack Mitchell

    Let's hope she doesn't condemn them with the same brush, or tar them to death.

  • Mike T.

    Who is the publisher and where can a layperson get a copy?

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Crit_Reasoning Crit_Reasoning

    Bonus points for using "bowdlerising" in a comment! That word doesn't get used often enough.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Crit_Reasoning Crit_Reasoning

    And with that inane comment, I finally achieve triple digits!

  • Andrew

    The Parliamentary gift shop sold the old version, I assume they will soon stock the new version.

    http://www2.parl.gc.ca/sites/lop/boutique/Product…

  • MJ Patchouli

    Hopefully it doesn't go to Peter Van Loan's office before release.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Sir_Francis Sir_Francis

    I finally achieve triple digits!

    See? Flattering Sir Francis, even inanely, always pays handsome dividends!

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Jack_Mitchell Jack Mitchell

    Nicely done!! Congrats.

  • Dot

    Sheila Fraser says you started with 46. You corked the bat.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Jack_Mitchell Jack Mitchell

    You do have to hand it to Intense Debate, they make a hell of a cocktail.

  • Mike T.

    Never mind, I see an e-version of hte older one is on the govt's website, and I assume it will be updated forthwith.

  • Dot

    I saw a guy commenting the other day with a -1 score. Made me think of avoiding him. Apparently, his only mistake was signing up when the rules were changed , and you started with zero.

    Drink away – it's only bathwater – watch out for baby.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Sir_Francis Sir_Francis

    Thanks. I need all the points I can get. Speaking of which…

  • Dot

    Oh, did you all start at zero?

    Colby Cosh – 31 comments, first 1 week ago, 46 points

    QED

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Crit_Reasoning Crit_Reasoning

    Thanks guys! The complimentary daiquiris are delicious.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/madeyoulook madeyoulook

    And with that inane comment…

    An ugly goal counts as much as a pretty goal. Congratulations.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Jack_Mitchell Jack Mitchell

    I think there's a big swing early on — one poor guy around here had an early comment unfavourably received, and toiled out of a -140 rating (or abandoned that profile — haven't seen it around for a bit). I think Colby Cosh's comments have got quite high favourable ratings so that's probably driven him up quickly.

    CR generally gets more favourable ratings than I do, which I think is reflected in the slight discrepancy in number of comments before 100p. You're right, though, that it looks like the +/- doesn't count hugely in the long term.

  • Jonhny McDonald

    I wonder who really did all the work. Not O'Brien and Bosc, I'm willing to bet.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Crit_Reasoning Crit_Reasoning

    I'll never forget you, myl.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Crit_Reasoning Crit_Reasoning

    I don't agree that you generally get less favourable ratings than I do. Either we're roughly tied, or you're slightly ahead the "favourable" scale.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Jack_Mitchell Jack Mitchell

    Really? Hmm, maybe it's an "eye of the beholder" thing; or maybe every time I waste breath baiting Steynettes I take an unfavourable hit.

    Like most everybody, I was pretty skeptical about the +/- thing when they installed IntenseDebate, but I must say that, regardless of the effect on "points," leaving room for the communis opinio in a controversial thread is a) kind of fun to watch, b) an incentive to shrewd comments, and c) a reassuring low-level defense mechanism against complete idiots.

    I wonder how many casual readers, i.e. non-commenters, there are on these blogs. The Globe, Star, and CBC sites all seem to get huge numbers of thumbs-up'ings and thumbs-down'ings — e.g. for the lead story in the Globe right now, the first comment displayed has 108 thumbs up. But, if that reflects a wider readership, perhaps that correlates to the unreadable idiocy of most of their reader comments.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Crit_Reasoning Crit_Reasoning

    As you know, the powers that be (i.e. Whyte) decided that there was a need for a "comment rating" system, which is what caused Jonathan McKinnell to implement an unknown beta-version WordPress mod (IntenseDebate) in the first place.

    Despite the many annoying hiccups, including the deletion of most archival nested comments prior to the IntenseDebate implementation, I think the ID system has turned out rather well! I agree with points A, B and C.

    There are a great many casual readers of these blogs, including a surprising number of senior politicians and journalists. Macleans may have a lower readership than the Globe, Star and CBC sites, but the comment quality is undoubtedly higher.

    As Colby Cosh recently said: "Maclean's clearly has the best comment section of any major media outlet in this country (though that is pretty faint praise; the others all leave you feeling jittery and scabious after about 30 seconds of reading)."

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