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	<title>Comments on: Holland’s anti-Islamic firebrand</title>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/12/01/holland%e2%80%99s-anti-islamic-firebrand/comment-page-2/#comment-216710</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 16:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually the Masons, illuminati are out to detroy everything.
Read you dumb son-of-a-criminal Aussie. HAHA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually the Masons, illuminati are out to detroy everything.<br />
Read you dumb son-of-a-criminal Aussie. HAHA</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 15:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karma  brother. They shudder just by thinking of us. HAHAHA
They don&#039;t enjoy peace. That is enuough for me.
Bless</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karma  brother. They shudder just by thinking of us. HAHAHA<br />
They don&#039;t enjoy peace. That is enuough for me.<br />
Bless</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 15:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t Mary wear a hijab?
Your ignorance reflects that of your people, Italians huh? hahahaha
Cowards in war.  Worshippers of money.  Losers of an oppressive empire, at whose hands?
Ours. Salut. lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#039;t Mary wear a hijab?<br />
Your ignorance reflects that of your people, Italians huh? hahahaha<br />
Cowards in war.  Worshippers of money.  Losers of an oppressive empire, at whose hands?<br />
Ours. Salut. lol</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 15:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh angry white people. Yes, your men are impotent. Yes your women
infertile. Yes, Christians, LOL, you are killing your own babies, hence your own future. If you&#039;re feeling less-than, work on yourselves, don&#039;t
try to tear others down.
You are enraged, and feeling very inferior. This is why you resort to such low-minded tactics.
You see us, people of colour, and you see us excelling in school, buying nicer homes than you, having stronger family structures, and you can&#039;t stand it. I love it. You conquered and robbed with violence, acts for which those perpatrators are now burning in the lake of fire.
Guess what? You invited us all here. We used our minds, and have gone further than you can stomach.
Karma, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh angry white people. Yes, your men are impotent. Yes your women<br />
infertile. Yes, Christians, LOL, you are killing your own babies, hence your own future. If you&#039;re feeling less-than, work on yourselves, don&#039;t<br />
try to tear others down.<br />
You are enraged, and feeling very inferior. This is why you resort to such low-minded tactics.<br />
You see us, people of colour, and you see us excelling in school, buying nicer homes than you, having stronger family structures, and you can&#039;t stand it. I love it. You conquered and robbed with violence, acts for which those perpatrators are now burning in the lake of fire.<br />
Guess what? You invited us all here. We used our minds, and have gone further than you can stomach.<br />
Karma, no?</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/12/01/holland%e2%80%99s-anti-islamic-firebrand/comment-page-2/#comment-216706</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 15:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just like they did in Iraq right? Or Bosnia? or Chechnya? or Goa? or South America?
When it comes to violence, Christendom takes a back seat to nobody.
Do you not see, the Holy Land was desecrated by whom? Jews? No. Muslims? No.
&quot;Christians&quot;, well let history speak for itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just like they did in Iraq right? Or Bosnia? or Chechnya? or Goa? or South America?<br />
When it comes to violence, Christendom takes a back seat to nobody.<br />
Do you not see, the Holy Land was desecrated by whom? Jews? No. Muslims? No.<br />
&quot;Christians&quot;, well let history speak for itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/12/01/holland%e2%80%99s-anti-islamic-firebrand/comment-page-2/#comment-216705</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 15:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holland is low-land right?
Sodom was buried underneath the the Dead Sea.
This modern day Sodom, quite literally, will also face the same fate.
Burn Theo burn. Shame on you Ms.Ali, for bowing to the white man who will use and abuse you, then shall you be discarded.
Try as you will, the banner of Islam will be raised in Europe, but by
the right minded white people, not as much through immigration, as you suggest. We don&#039;t need to fight you at all, our way is superior...watch all the conversions worldwide on &quot;YouTube&quot;.
Mr. Wilders&#039;, fear God, you blaspheme Him, then how can anyone help you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holland is low-land right?<br />
Sodom was buried underneath the the Dead Sea.<br />
This modern day Sodom, quite literally, will also face the same fate.<br />
Burn Theo burn. Shame on you Ms.Ali, for bowing to the white man who will use and abuse you, then shall you be discarded.<br />
Try as you will, the banner of Islam will be raised in Europe, but by<br />
the right minded white people, not as much through immigration, as you suggest. We don&#039;t need to fight you at all, our way is superior&#8230;watch all the conversions worldwide on &quot;YouTube&quot;.<br />
Mr. Wilders&#039;, fear God, you blaspheme Him, then how can anyone help you?</p>
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		<title>By: REALITY IN OUR TIME</title>
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		<dc:creator>REALITY IN OUR TIME</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 04:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THE MUSLIMS ARE ON THE MARCH TO DESTROY WESTERN VALUES AND RELIGION,IF YOU DONT BELIEVE OR ACCEPT THAT FACT,THEN ITS ABOUT TIME YOU CHECKED OUT WHATS HAPPENING IN THE WORLD..WAKE UP YOU SLEEPERS...WHILE YOU HAVE PRECIOUS TIME LEFT...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THE MUSLIMS ARE ON THE MARCH TO DESTROY WESTERN VALUES AND RELIGION,IF YOU DONT BELIEVE OR ACCEPT THAT FACT,THEN ITS ABOUT TIME YOU CHECKED OUT WHATS HAPPENING IN THE WORLD..WAKE UP YOU SLEEPERS&#8230;WHILE YOU HAVE PRECIOUS TIME LEFT&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: BARRY GREENWAY</title>
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		<dc:creator>BARRY GREENWAY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 04:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WHEN IS AUSTRALIA GOING TO UNCOVER A POLITICAL SAVIOUR SUCH AS GEERT WILDERS..WE HAVE NO POLITICAL PARTY OR LEADERS WITH THE COURAGE OR BACKBONE SUCH AS THIS MAN...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHEN IS AUSTRALIA GOING TO UNCOVER A POLITICAL SAVIOUR SUCH AS GEERT WILDERS..WE HAVE NO POLITICAL PARTY OR LEADERS WITH THE COURAGE OR BACKBONE SUCH AS THIS MAN&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kia</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/12/01/holland%e2%80%99s-anti-islamic-firebrand/comment-page-2/#comment-216702</link>
		<dc:creator>kia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>do any of you have any morals or ethics to ban a holy book is fuleing the fire between the division of islam and the media. i am muslim living in canada and i have never seen such excuse my for my language such assholes. The islam that is shown in the media is not what islam is and will never be and when your speaking about banning a holy book who dont we go ahead and ban the bible and the torrah .We allow this we are allowing a fundamental freedom that many countries strive towards. Does anybody want to go back into a secular time where the only relgion and true force was the church that atheist, muslim or jews were allowed. NO one does and the ISLAM the word is arabic for peace so before you utter such disgusting ideas like banning a religion you should do some research !!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>do any of you have any morals or ethics to ban a holy book is fuleing the fire between the division of islam and the media. i am muslim living in canada and i have never seen such excuse my for my language such assholes. The islam that is shown in the media is not what islam is and will never be and when your speaking about banning a holy book who dont we go ahead and ban the bible and the torrah .We allow this we are allowing a fundamental freedom that many countries strive towards. Does anybody want to go back into a secular time where the only relgion and true force was the church that atheist, muslim or jews were allowed. NO one does and the ISLAM the word is arabic for peace so before you utter such disgusting ideas like banning a religion you should do some research !!!!</p>
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		<title>By: No Name Today</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/12/01/holland%e2%80%99s-anti-islamic-firebrand/comment-page-1/#comment-216701</link>
		<dc:creator>No Name Today</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 06:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an American citizen I find this article horrifyingly incorrect. The assumptions made by several of the above commenters are based on the few fundamentalist Muslim extremists who have made it into main stream media. Don&#039;t always believe what you read or see on TV. I don&#039;t know about most Canadians but agreeing with a pretty blond politician is a halfassed decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an American citizen I find this article horrifyingly incorrect. The assumptions made by several of the above commenters are based on the few fundamentalist Muslim extremists who have made it into main stream media. Don&#039;t always believe what you read or see on TV. I don&#039;t know about most Canadians but agreeing with a pretty blond politician is a halfassed decision.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Mays</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/12/01/holland%e2%80%99s-anti-islamic-firebrand/comment-page-1/#comment-216700</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Mays</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 16:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kill People Who Don&#039;t Listen to Priests
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death.  Such evil must be purged from Israel.  (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
If a man commits adultery with another man&#039;s wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death.  (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
A priest&#039;s daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death.  (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
Kill Nonbelievers
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.  (2 Chronicles 15:12-13
Kill Sons of Sinners
Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants.  (Isaiah 14:21

Remember these verses everytime a Christian comes to you to talk about love and Jesus Christ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kill People Who Don&#039;t Listen to Priests<br />
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death.  Such evil must be purged from Israel.  (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)<br />
If a man commits adultery with another man&#039;s wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death.  (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)<br />
A priest&#039;s daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death.  (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)<br />
Kill Nonbelievers<br />
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.  (2 Chronicles 15:12-13<br />
Kill Sons of Sinners<br />
Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants.  (Isaiah 14:21</p>
<p>Remember these verses everytime a Christian comes to you to talk about love and Jesus Christ</p>
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		<title>By: The Truth</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/12/01/holland%e2%80%99s-anti-islamic-firebrand/comment-page-2/#comment-216699</link>
		<dc:creator>The Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 23:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AMEN! Just keep in mind there are Christians of many colour...I know you know that and were just trying to make a point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AMEN! Just keep in mind there are Christians of many colour&#8230;I know you know that and were just trying to make a point.</p>
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		<title>By: The Truth</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/12/01/holland%e2%80%99s-anti-islamic-firebrand/comment-page-2/#comment-216698</link>
		<dc:creator>The Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please disregard the spell/grammar. Was typing fast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please disregard the spell/grammar. Was typing fast.</p>
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		<title>By: The Truth</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/12/01/holland%e2%80%99s-anti-islamic-firebrand/comment-page-1/#comment-216697</link>
		<dc:creator>The Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You clearly do not understand the Bible. There are definitely some harsh areas of the Old Testament. It stands alone as an incredible document of both historical and prophetic accounts. However, the New Testamant presented a The New Covenant with the coming of Jesus Christ which did away with the rules and regulations of the Old Testament such as strict dietary and hygenic requirements. I&#039;m won&#039;t get into the specifics with someone who clearly is not a Christian (if you were you would not have written such a thing), but I simply wanted to point out your comments which display a glaring and ignorant understanding of the Bible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You clearly do not understand the Bible. There are definitely some harsh areas of the Old Testament. It stands alone as an incredible document of both historical and prophetic accounts. However, the New Testamant presented a The New Covenant with the coming of Jesus Christ which did away with the rules and regulations of the Old Testament such as strict dietary and hygenic requirements. I&#039;m won&#039;t get into the specifics with someone who clearly is not a Christian (if you were you would not have written such a thing), but I simply wanted to point out your comments which display a glaring and ignorant understanding of the Bible.</p>
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		<title>By: Hey stevecanuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hey stevecanuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think young Katie may be quite naive. Perhaps she is an Islamic apologist since on her facebook page she admires a Muslim journalist. I highly doubt she has every aquainted herself with the Qur&#039;an. Apparently, according to this book I am in the category of pig and monkey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think young Katie may be quite naive. Perhaps she is an Islamic apologist since on her facebook page she admires a Muslim journalist. I highly doubt she has every aquainted herself with the Qur&#039;an. Apparently, according to this book I am in the category of pig and monkey.</p>
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		<title>By: canucklehead</title>
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		<dc:creator>canucklehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 10:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t found the book (it&#039;s an Islamic history that counters the Islamist version of what it means and has meant to be Muslim) I was thinking of. I haven&#039;t really looked yet, so maybe I will. I think it was the period from 1300 back to the beginning of Islam. And I&#039;m not saying things were ever all that good, but the book makes the case that it was definately better than conditions in the Christian world. Come to think of it, maybe all I&#039;d need to say is that the holocaust did not happen on Muslim soil - but then again... not for a lack of trying since the creation of modern Israel.

Btw, I&#039;m a Rob H too ^_^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#039;t found the book (it&#039;s an Islamic history that counters the Islamist version of what it means and has meant to be Muslim) I was thinking of. I haven&#039;t really looked yet, so maybe I will. I think it was the period from 1300 back to the beginning of Islam. And I&#039;m not saying things were ever all that good, but the book makes the case that it was definately better than conditions in the Christian world. Come to think of it, maybe all I&#039;d need to say is that the holocaust did not happen on Muslim soil &#8211; but then again&#8230; not for a lack of trying since the creation of modern Israel.</p>
<p>Btw, I&#039;m a Rob H too ^_^</p>
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		<title>By: Rob H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 00:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jews have always been ghettoized in the Islamic world (along with other religions), forced to pay non believer taxes, not allowed to own property and if a muslim killed a jew he would normally not be prosecuted. That&#039;s when they just weren&#039;t killed outright as Mohammed did according to the Hadiths. Which Caliphate are you talking about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jews have always been ghettoized in the Islamic world (along with other religions), forced to pay non believer taxes, not allowed to own property and if a muslim killed a jew he would normally not be prosecuted. That&#039;s when they just weren&#039;t killed outright as Mohammed did according to the Hadiths. Which Caliphate are you talking about?</p>
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		<title>By: mel</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/12/01/holland%e2%80%99s-anti-islamic-firebrand/comment-page-2/#comment-216692</link>
		<dc:creator>mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 00:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how ironic that you promote atheism, and then tell us to &quot;have faith&quot;. doesn&#039;t jive does it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how ironic that you promote atheism, and then tell us to &quot;have faith&quot;. doesn&#039;t jive does it.</p>
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		<title>By: mel</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/12/01/holland%e2%80%99s-anti-islamic-firebrand/comment-page-2/#comment-216691</link>
		<dc:creator>mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 00:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>too bad bombs don&#039;t make distinctions like &quot;right&quot; and &quot;left&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>too bad bombs don&#039;t make distinctions like &quot;right&quot; and &quot;left&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: Rob H</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/12/01/holland%e2%80%99s-anti-islamic-firebrand/comment-page-2/#comment-216690</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 00:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moderate Islam? Where is moderate in the Islamic countries of the world where most of the world&#039;s Muslims live? Iran, Iraq, Indonesia, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, Egypt? Everyone of these countries restricts the rights of women, tolerates honour killings of women, doesn&#039;t allow other religions to preach freely, build places of worship, does not give equal treatment under Sharia to non muslims and on an on. Where is this moderate Islam?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moderate Islam? Where is moderate in the Islamic countries of the world where most of the world&#039;s Muslims live? Iran, Iraq, Indonesia, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, Egypt? Everyone of these countries restricts the rights of women, tolerates honour killings of women, doesn&#039;t allow other religions to preach freely, build places of worship, does not give equal treatment under Sharia to non muslims and on an on. Where is this moderate Islam?</p>
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		<title>By: mel</title>
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		<dc:creator>mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 00:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PART THREE OF RESPONSE
because of their long history of not doing what they say they will do? i&#039;m pretty sure they are fairly good at following through on their threats of violence. and by the way, their goal is not to separate themselves from the rest of the world, if it were, they&#039;d stay in their home countries instead of spreading out all over the world. their goal is to dominate, to exterminate, and to replace. you give them more victims, every time you manage to convince someone that a threat does not exist. you give them more power, every time you make excuses for what is wrong with their religion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PART THREE OF RESPONSE<br />
because of their long history of not doing what they say they will do? i&#039;m pretty sure they are fairly good at following through on their threats of violence. and by the way, their goal is not to separate themselves from the rest of the world, if it were, they&#039;d stay in their home countries instead of spreading out all over the world. their goal is to dominate, to exterminate, and to replace. you give them more victims, every time you manage to convince someone that a threat does not exist. you give them more power, every time you make excuses for what is wrong with their religion.</p>
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		<title>By: mel</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/12/01/holland%e2%80%99s-anti-islamic-firebrand/comment-page-2/#comment-216689</link>
		<dc:creator>mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 00:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PART TWO OF RESPONSE
there is no denying that the koran tells muslims to kill infidels, although i&#039;m sure you&#039;ll try. i also don&#039;t know what you&#039;re getting at with regard to the amish. they&#039;re always pretty quiet aren&#039;t they? who cares. they aren&#039;t the ones blowing people up, and cutting peoples heads off. there are obviously differences between religions, my religion tells me to love others, and respect them. it tells me i am supposed to convert people who don&#039;t believe as i do, but that people have free will and that is to be respected. islam says no such thing. convert or die, that&#039;s the choice, and that is a problem that can&#039;t be dealt with, because that would undermine the book it&#039;s based on. it is about the people. and why should we not take them at their word exactly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PART TWO OF RESPONSE<br />
there is no denying that the koran tells muslims to kill infidels, although i&#039;m sure you&#039;ll try. i also don&#039;t know what you&#039;re getting at with regard to the amish. they&#039;re always pretty quiet aren&#039;t they? who cares. they aren&#039;t the ones blowing people up, and cutting peoples heads off. there are obviously differences between religions, my religion tells me to love others, and respect them. it tells me i am supposed to convert people who don&#039;t believe as i do, but that people have free will and that is to be respected. islam says no such thing. convert or die, that&#039;s the choice, and that is a problem that can&#039;t be dealt with, because that would undermine the book it&#039;s based on. it is about the people. and why should we not take them at their word exactly?</p>
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		<title>By: mel</title>
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		<dc:creator>mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 00:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PART ONE OF RESPONSE
no people like you are the problem. sitting there telling the world that it has nothing to worry about. you are what islam calls a dhimmi. a &quot;useful idiot&quot;. someone who can&#039;t see past their own self rightiousness to the danger in front of you, activley trying to blind others to that danger. you think that colorful scarves are a sign of free thinking in a muslim country? they are not. women are still forced to wear those scarves, or be beaten or killed. honor killings are rampant in the muslim world. not by the bin ladens, but by ordinary people. i&#039;m not saying that there are not some muslims in the world who are good people, but i am saying that islam, the religion itself, is not one of peace if you are not a muslim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PART ONE OF RESPONSE<br />
no people like you are the problem. sitting there telling the world that it has nothing to worry about. you are what islam calls a dhimmi. a &quot;useful idiot&quot;. someone who can&#039;t see past their own self rightiousness to the danger in front of you, activley trying to blind others to that danger. you think that colorful scarves are a sign of free thinking in a muslim country? they are not. women are still forced to wear those scarves, or be beaten or killed. honor killings are rampant in the muslim world. not by the bin ladens, but by ordinary people. i&#039;m not saying that there are not some muslims in the world who are good people, but i am saying that islam, the religion itself, is not one of peace if you are not a muslim.</p>
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		<title>By: CORDWORN45</title>
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		<dc:creator>CORDWORN45</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 04:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cut off all the &quot;HEADS&quot;...now...the BODY...is more perceptive to alternative indoctrination...without RELIGEON....Only Law and Democracy !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cut off all the &quot;HEADS&quot;&#8230;now&#8230;the BODY&#8230;is more perceptive to alternative indoctrination&#8230;without RELIGEON&#8230;.Only Law and Democracy !!!</p>
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		<title>By: spezza4life</title>
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		<dc:creator>spezza4life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 19:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really loving  the dialogue on this comments board. Don&#039;t understand how Africans can practice a religion handed down to them through slavery and bondage.</description>
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		<title>By: Bill Desmond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Desmond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 15:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sixth century  religion of illiterate tribesmen is the worlds most dangerous anachronism.  It brooks no interpretation, no apostasy, no tolerance as we know it  and no secularism.  This is a religion and a culture that lives by the old testament lunacy- misogyny, stoning for adultery, an eye for an eye,  the murder of children for so called honour crimes.  Though not a tenant of the Koran, female genitle mutilation is practiced only in Muslim countries, by Muslims.  Stoning to death is practiced only in Muslim countries. These despicable practices have no place in a modern, liberal, secular society, or anywhere else in the 21st century.  The religion that condones them is an abomination.  People that commit these acts are savages.

The sooner we wake up to that fact,  stop being so politically correct and start saying what needs to be said, the better for us all., and that includes what the Israelis are doing to the Palestinians.  We&#039;re not being tolerant, nor accomodating.  We&#039;re being blind and stupid.   Europe is slowly realizing what the danger is- and we better realize it as well.

Fanaticism, superstition, tribal warfare and  slaughter may have been fun and games  in the sixth century.  Now, with nuclear weapons, they threaten our very survival.  The lunatics that fly planes into buildings,  or drop bombs on wedding parties after first having morning prayers, and the born again hordes that look forward with glee to the nuclear annilation of millions so their so called saviour can return, are all to blame.

As some wit once said, the world won&#039;t be free till the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sixth century  religion of illiterate tribesmen is the worlds most dangerous anachronism.  It brooks no interpretation, no apostasy, no tolerance as we know it  and no secularism.  This is a religion and a culture that lives by the old testament lunacy- misogyny, stoning for adultery, an eye for an eye,  the murder of children for so called honour crimes.  Though not a tenant of the Koran, female genitle mutilation is practiced only in Muslim countries, by Muslims.  Stoning to death is practiced only in Muslim countries. These despicable practices have no place in a modern, liberal, secular society, or anywhere else in the 21st century.  The religion that condones them is an abomination.  People that commit these acts are savages.</p>
<p>The sooner we wake up to that fact,  stop being so politically correct and start saying what needs to be said, the better for us all., and that includes what the Israelis are doing to the Palestinians.  We&#8217;re not being tolerant, nor accomodating.  We&#8217;re being blind and stupid.   Europe is slowly realizing what the danger is- and we better realize it as well.</p>
<p>Fanaticism, superstition, tribal warfare and  slaughter may have been fun and games  in the sixth century.  Now, with nuclear weapons, they threaten our very survival.  The lunatics that fly planes into buildings,  or drop bombs on wedding parties after first having morning prayers, and the born again hordes that look forward with glee to the nuclear annilation of millions so their so called saviour can return, are all to blame.</p>
<p>As some wit once said, the world won&#8217;t be free till the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest..</p>
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		<title>By: Largs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Largs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 14:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spaceman wrote: &quot;take a deep breath right wingers. you have no one to blame but yourselves.
my heart does not bleed for right wing fanatics or religious fanatics. you&#039;ve colonized and marginalized these people and now
they are here to kick you asses.&quot;

And you think you or your family will be safe. You left wingers make me laugh.
Of course you won&#039;t have to worry any longer about how we in the west oppress women and homosexuals. Under Sharia law women will not be allowed to leave the home unless they are completely covered and without a male relative. No more worries about that dam glass ceiling eh. Homosexuals will be publicly hanged of course so I guess Gay Pride parades are out of the question.
Socialism and Political Correctness are mental disorders. Unfortunately they may doom us all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spaceman wrote: &quot;take a deep breath right wingers. you have no one to blame but yourselves.<br />
my heart does not bleed for right wing fanatics or religious fanatics. you&#039;ve colonized and marginalized these people and now<br />
they are here to kick you asses.&quot;</p>
<p>And you think you or your family will be safe. You left wingers make me laugh.<br />
Of course you won&#039;t have to worry any longer about how we in the west oppress women and homosexuals. Under Sharia law women will not be allowed to leave the home unless they are completely covered and without a male relative. No more worries about that dam glass ceiling eh. Homosexuals will be publicly hanged of course so I guess Gay Pride parades are out of the question.<br />
Socialism and Political Correctness are mental disorders. Unfortunately they may doom us all.</p>
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		<title>By: Harm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 14:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If only atheists ran the world. If you want to achieve peace of mind and happiness, have faith. If you want to be a disciple of truth, then search.
We as citizens  need to question the impact our judeo christian teaching and values on society. Simply banning the burka and sharia law will not rid us from the evil religon has inflicted on the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only atheists ran the world. If you want to achieve peace of mind and happiness, have faith. If you want to be a disciple of truth, then search.<br />
We as citizens  need to question the impact our judeo christian teaching and values on society. Simply banning the burka and sharia law will not rid us from the evil religon has inflicted on the world.</p>
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		<title>By: spaceman</title>
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		<dc:creator>spaceman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 05:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>take a deep breath right wingers. you have no one to blame but yourselves.
my heart does not bleed for right wing fanatics or religious fanatics. you&#039;ve colonized and marginalized these people and now
they are here to kick you asses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>take a deep breath right wingers. you have no one to blame but yourselves.<br />
my heart does not bleed for right wing fanatics or religious fanatics. you&#039;ve colonized and marginalized these people and now<br />
they are here to kick you asses.</p>
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		<title>By: canucklehead</title>
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		<dc:creator>canucklehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 03:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again I refer to the book &quot;The Islamist&quot;. The man who had to run away from his home to join an Islamist group also found that Muslim countries like Egypt have harsher laws against such organizations than western countries, and most shocking to him was that in countries such as Jordan and Syria very few people wear the burka - instead he found various colourful scarves. Here&#039;s the thing: you are making the same mistake that he had made by taking the Bin Ladens of the world at their word when they say they represent Islam. They do not. They know very little but that they want power. It is not Islam that is the problem, it is the people who think they own Islam.

It is undeniable to say - as Ann Coulter once remarked - that the Amish have been quiet lately. There are differences between religions and there are problems with Islam itself that it must deal with. But again, to say it is about the people and the religion is to take the Islamists at their word and advance their goal of separating all Muslims from the rest of the world. You would give them more victims and more power by doing that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again I refer to the book &quot;The Islamist&quot;. The man who had to run away from his home to join an Islamist group also found that Muslim countries like Egypt have harsher laws against such organizations than western countries, and most shocking to him was that in countries such as Jordan and Syria very few people wear the burka &#8211; instead he found various colourful scarves. Here&#039;s the thing: you are making the same mistake that he had made by taking the Bin Ladens of the world at their word when they say they represent Islam. They do not. They know very little but that they want power. It is not Islam that is the problem, it is the people who think they own Islam.</p>
<p>It is undeniable to say &#8211; as Ann Coulter once remarked &#8211; that the Amish have been quiet lately. There are differences between religions and there are problems with Islam itself that it must deal with. But again, to say it is about the people and the religion is to take the Islamists at their word and advance their goal of separating all Muslims from the rest of the world. You would give them more victims and more power by doing that.</p>
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		<title>By: eddie</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/12/01/holland%e2%80%99s-anti-islamic-firebrand/comment-page-2/#comment-216680</link>
		<dc:creator>eddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 08:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>finally someone is talking some sense!! we should follow his example and start taking action against this creeping, passive invasion the mullahs are conducting over very noses!! the gross naivety and gullibility of the people of this country is astounding, to say the least! these guys are walking into our country and taking FIRM root with our permission and we are letting them. this whole &#039;equality&#039; BS is going to lead to them taking away our freedoms. Heed the warning now while there is still time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>finally someone is talking some sense!! we should follow his example and start taking action against this creeping, passive invasion the mullahs are conducting over very noses!! the gross naivety and gullibility of the people of this country is astounding, to say the least! these guys are walking into our country and taking FIRM root with our permission and we are letting them. this whole &#039;equality&#039; BS is going to lead to them taking away our freedoms. Heed the warning now while there is still time.</p>
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		<title>By: mel</title>
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		<dc:creator>mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 04:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what about salman rushdie? he&#039;s still under a death sentence for his satanic verses. death for writing a book.  seems reasonable. islam has no regard for the liberties of others. it&#039;s a foreign value to them. look around canada right now. islam is getting a good start oppressing non-muslims as we speak. google ezra levant, syed soharwardy, mohammed elmasry, khuram awan, human rights tribunal. read some of their rulings, and get ready to watch what you say in public</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what about salman rushdie? he&#039;s still under a death sentence for his satanic verses. death for writing a book.  seems reasonable. islam has no regard for the liberties of others. it&#039;s a foreign value to them. look around canada right now. islam is getting a good start oppressing non-muslims as we speak. google ezra levant, syed soharwardy, mohammed elmasry, khuram awan, human rights tribunal. read some of their rulings, and get ready to watch what you say in public</p>
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		<title>By: mel</title>
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		<dc:creator>mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 04:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i get the impression from reading your comment that you are someone who picks up the odd magazine article written by some liberal apologist of terrorism, but that you have no inkling of what is really going on in the world today. &quot;one killed van gogh and should pay for his crimes&quot;? do you understand your own words? a man was murdered for making a movie critical of islam. does that not strike you as incredibly frightning?  when the danish cartoons were published, 100 people died in the ensuing riots. PEOPLE DIED OVER CARTOONS! the worst part of that one was that the published cartoons are not even the ones that got people killed. several imams who thought the uproar was not sufficiant drew a few more, depicting the prophet, among other things, copulating with a dog. they then showed these with the actual cartoons to whip up more fury.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i get the impression from reading your comment that you are someone who picks up the odd magazine article written by some liberal apologist of terrorism, but that you have no inkling of what is really going on in the world today. &quot;one killed van gogh and should pay for his crimes&quot;? do you understand your own words? a man was murdered for making a movie critical of islam. does that not strike you as incredibly frightning?  when the danish cartoons were published, 100 people died in the ensuing riots. PEOPLE DIED OVER CARTOONS! the worst part of that one was that the published cartoons are not even the ones that got people killed. several imams who thought the uproar was not sufficiant drew a few more, depicting the prophet, among other things, copulating with a dog. they then showed these with the actual cartoons to whip up more fury.</p>
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		<title>By: wake up.</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/12/01/holland%e2%80%99s-anti-islamic-firebrand/comment-page-2/#comment-216677</link>
		<dc:creator>wake up.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 03:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>who are you trying to fool, the idea of islam is to take over, and make everyone muslim, if they chose not  to, kill them, kill the the none belevers remeber, you know what i hate, is people who pretend islam is a peacefull religion and they are just trying to live in the west like everyone else, the truth is they try to take over in every way. they need to be stopt NOW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who are you trying to fool, the idea of islam is to take over, and make everyone muslim, if they chose not  to, kill them, kill the the none belevers remeber, you know what i hate, is people who pretend islam is a peacefull religion and they are just trying to live in the west like everyone else, the truth is they try to take over in every way. they need to be stopt NOW.</p>
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		<title>By: mel</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/12/01/holland%e2%80%99s-anti-islamic-firebrand/comment-page-1/#comment-216676</link>
		<dc:creator>mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 03:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>muslims respect america? i say again, are you kidding? sept 11? anyone? have you all forgotten so quickly? in the muslim world, america is known as the great satan. that&#039;s not a pet name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>muslims respect america? i say again, are you kidding? sept 11? anyone? have you all forgotten so quickly? in the muslim world, america is known as the great satan. that&#039;s not a pet name.</p>
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		<title>By: mel</title>
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		<dc:creator>mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 03:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>try this, think of all the examples of islamic terrorism over the last ten years, and replace all the muslims with white christians. would you still be defending them then? i bet there are a lot of christians who feel defeated in their religion. would they be justified in your mind too? i doubt it. but then again, you&#039;ll never have to, because any real christian values the life of every other human being as they do their own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>try this, think of all the examples of islamic terrorism over the last ten years, and replace all the muslims with white christians. would you still be defending them then? i bet there are a lot of christians who feel defeated in their religion. would they be justified in your mind too? i doubt it. but then again, you&#039;ll never have to, because any real christian values the life of every other human being as they do their own.</p>
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		<title>By: mel</title>
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		<dc:creator>mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 03:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>canucklehead:
are you kidding? the ugliness we think we see? the fear in the mirror? i don&#039;t &quot;think&quot; i see anything. i know what i see. i see people being murdered for speaking out against islam. i see planes slamming into buildings full of peole, i see suicide bombers blowing themselves up in crowded clubs and markets, i see foreign aid workers being decapitated while still alive, i see bodies of american soldiers being dragged through the streets, i see girls being murdered for becoming too &quot;westernized&quot; , i see classrooms full of kindergarten children being sprayed with automatic weapons, i see trains being blown up in london and india. there may have been a time when islam was beautiful, but that time has long since passed, and the only reason there is fear, is because that&#039;s what they want us to feel. there is no excuse, defeat or religion, that justifies the sort of fundamentalism we see today.
why don&#039;t you put that in your pipe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>canucklehead:<br />
are you kidding? the ugliness we think we see? the fear in the mirror? i don&#039;t &quot;think&quot; i see anything. i know what i see. i see people being murdered for speaking out against islam. i see planes slamming into buildings full of peole, i see suicide bombers blowing themselves up in crowded clubs and markets, i see foreign aid workers being decapitated while still alive, i see bodies of american soldiers being dragged through the streets, i see girls being murdered for becoming too &quot;westernized&quot; , i see classrooms full of kindergarten children being sprayed with automatic weapons, i see trains being blown up in london and india. there may have been a time when islam was beautiful, but that time has long since passed, and the only reason there is fear, is because that&#039;s what they want us to feel. there is no excuse, defeat or religion, that justifies the sort of fundamentalism we see today.<br />
why don&#039;t you put that in your pipe.</p>
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		<title>By: mel</title>
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		<dc:creator>mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 03:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>muslim extremists count on people like you to scold people like me because i have a justified and rational fear certain people who want me dead because to them i am less than human. do you remember september 11? are you not aware of the significance of that day? were you feeling the love watching t.v that morning? why should i sit back and listen to anti-western, anti-christian, anti-anything-but-islam muslims cheering that day, and every terrorist attack since then, and not be angry about it? it&#039;s ironic that the bleeding- heart- liberal- hippie- make-love-not-war-feminist-gay-rights-don&#039;t-step-on-anybody&#039;s-toes-mush-for-brains are the ones defending radical islam when they are the ones that terrorist hate the most.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>muslim extremists count on people like you to scold people like me because i have a justified and rational fear certain people who want me dead because to them i am less than human. do you remember september 11? are you not aware of the significance of that day? were you feeling the love watching t.v that morning? why should i sit back and listen to anti-western, anti-christian, anti-anything-but-islam muslims cheering that day, and every terrorist attack since then, and not be angry about it? it&#039;s ironic that the bleeding- heart- liberal- hippie- make-love-not-war-feminist-gay-rights-don&#039;t-step-on-anybody&#039;s-toes-mush-for-brains are the ones defending radical islam when they are the ones that terrorist hate the most.</p>
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		<title>By: someone different</title>
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		<dc:creator>someone different</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 02:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dont you all believe in God? what is this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dont you all believe in God? what is this?</p>
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		<title>By: someone different</title>
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		<dc:creator>someone different</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 02:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not all muslims are necassarily wanting to kill you; what , you actually think that? isn&#039;t that prejudice? you can&#039;t quickly assume that. This is also a religion, so why disrespect it like that? i find that offensive! OH MY GOD, I THINK I WANT TO KILL YOU.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not all muslims are necassarily wanting to kill you; what , you actually think that? isn&#039;t that prejudice? you can&#039;t quickly assume that. This is also a religion, so why disrespect it like that? i find that offensive! OH MY GOD, I THINK I WANT TO KILL YOU.</p>
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		<title>By: canucklehead</title>
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		<dc:creator>canucklehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 10:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a time when the beauty of philosophy and science and art was centered in the Muslim Caliphate. Some of the people who have commented here should reflect on that - that there was a time when the least discrimination for Jewish people was found in Islamic lands, and when the self-confidence of that empire allowed a publicly gay and publicly religiously sceptical poet as the celebrity of his time. I suggest that it was self confidence and not religion that enabled the beauty of that time in Islam and that it is a sense of having being defeated and not religion that causes the excesses of fundamentalism today. Maybe the ugliness you think you see in Islam is only a reflection of your own new fear in the mirror.

The Muslim man who wrote the book &quot;The Islamist&quot; had to run away from home to join an Islamist group. Put that in your pipe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a time when the beauty of philosophy and science and art was centered in the Muslim Caliphate. Some of the people who have commented here should reflect on that &#8211; that there was a time when the least discrimination for Jewish people was found in Islamic lands, and when the self-confidence of that empire allowed a publicly gay and publicly religiously sceptical poet as the celebrity of his time. I suggest that it was self confidence and not religion that enabled the beauty of that time in Islam and that it is a sense of having being defeated and not religion that causes the excesses of fundamentalism today. Maybe the ugliness you think you see in Islam is only a reflection of your own new fear in the mirror.</p>
<p>The Muslim man who wrote the book &quot;The Islamist&quot; had to run away from home to join an Islamist group. Put that in your pipe.</p>
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		<title>By: canucklehead</title>
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		<dc:creator>canucklehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 10:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aye. Having a more open economic system is what I had attributed this to. France&#039;s restrictive firing laws are in effect restrictive hiring laws that make employers unable to take a chance on someone with less education and experience - particularly the young and immigrants. But I have to think that what you say has a lot to it. Banning the Koran and these shunted descriptions of Islam as a &#039;virus&#039; are disgusting ideas that don&#039;t begin to have currency in Canada or the US. Maybe our long practice of being countries of Folk Fests make the difference. I don&#039;t know. I had thought that it was a more &quot;aggressive&quot; sense of national identity that in particular has made America a place that respects Muslims and which Muslims respect. Hmm, or maybe the kind of comments I&#039;m reading here are a symptom of the weakness of those nationalisms and their inability to confront and embrace differences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aye. Having a more open economic system is what I had attributed this to. France&#039;s restrictive firing laws are in effect restrictive hiring laws that make employers unable to take a chance on someone with less education and experience &#8211; particularly the young and immigrants. But I have to think that what you say has a lot to it. Banning the Koran and these shunted descriptions of Islam as a &#039;virus&#039; are disgusting ideas that don&#039;t begin to have currency in Canada or the US. Maybe our long practice of being countries of Folk Fests make the difference. I don&#039;t know. I had thought that it was a more &quot;aggressive&quot; sense of national identity that in particular has made America a place that respects Muslims and which Muslims respect. Hmm, or maybe the kind of comments I&#039;m reading here are a symptom of the weakness of those nationalisms and their inability to confront and embrace differences.</p>
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		<title>By: Sim One</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sim One</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 02:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Netherlands is a welfare state in which each faction of whatever religion can count on a fair share of public money. This came about historically and has been in effect for a long, long time. Religiously inspired and run education, radio stations, newspapers, unions, political parties etc, etc, can all count on a lot of public money. No problem until recent as all contributed to this money proportionally. Unfortunately most of the new arrivals in the Netherlands are until now not contributing to this scheme according to proportion, meaning that publicly funded, but Islamic controlled education, radio stations, newspapers, etc, etc can proliferate without any obligations going the other way. This out of balance situation needs to get addressed sooner than later.
Every immigrant in N-America understands the need to work maybe twice as hard as anybody else in order to make it. Not so in the EU and especially not in the Netherlands, once you&#039;re in, you&#039;re set for life, no matter how marginal. So far not too many positive indications have come from these new immigrants as a whole and their now abundant second generation. Should Dutch society get overhauled to prevent this from happening in the first place? Should Dutch society continue to bleed and allow more non-contributing muslims into their midst? Who can blame the Dutch or any people from not wanting this to happen?
PS Denouncing Islam its religious status in the Netherlands would indeed be the fastest way to stop the flow of public funds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Netherlands is a welfare state in which each faction of whatever religion can count on a fair share of public money. This came about historically and has been in effect for a long, long time. Religiously inspired and run education, radio stations, newspapers, unions, political parties etc, etc, can all count on a lot of public money. No problem until recent as all contributed to this money proportionally. Unfortunately most of the new arrivals in the Netherlands are until now not contributing to this scheme according to proportion, meaning that publicly funded, but Islamic controlled education, radio stations, newspapers, etc, etc can proliferate without any obligations going the other way. This out of balance situation needs to get addressed sooner than later.<br />
Every immigrant in N-America understands the need to work maybe twice as hard as anybody else in order to make it. Not so in the EU and especially not in the Netherlands, once you&#039;re in, you&#039;re set for life, no matter how marginal. So far not too many positive indications have come from these new immigrants as a whole and their now abundant second generation. Should Dutch society get overhauled to prevent this from happening in the first place? Should Dutch society continue to bleed and allow more non-contributing muslims into their midst? Who can blame the Dutch or any people from not wanting this to happen?<br />
PS Denouncing Islam its religious status in the Netherlands would indeed be the fastest way to stop the flow of public funds.</p>
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		<title>By: JWB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JWB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 20:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Religion was once defined as a belief of a spiritual nature. Unfortunately in the hands of humans it is twisted and mutated into a force that condemns , spreads fear and spews hatred.
RELIGION IS A DISEASE.
Eradicate all religions and just imagine for a moment the peace that could exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Religion was once defined as a belief of a spiritual nature. Unfortunately in the hands of humans it is twisted and mutated into a force that condemns , spreads fear and spews hatred.<br />
RELIGION IS A DISEASE.<br />
Eradicate all religions and just imagine for a moment the peace that could exist.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Lebel</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. Lebel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many things here.

First, as has been said before, banning the Quran doesn&#039;t make any sense. If we are to ban this book, we should do the same with a broad swath of other writings, among which the Bible (it does contain pretty violent passages advocating massacre of civilians, for instance in Exodus or in the Psalms). And by the way, I guess most of the commentators here who speak in favor of this banning are the same who vigourously defend freedom of speech when prompted by Mark Steyn. This said, I am NOT a defender of section 13, so don&#039;t jump on this argument. I only mean that if you really want freedom of speech, censorship is not an option. It should be obvious anyways.

Second, if identity matters as for integration, employment is the thing most immigrants long after. They care about getting a job much more than they do about keeping their old identity. That&#039;s why they came here in the beginning.

I do recognize that heinous speech from the part of muslim preachers should not be accepted more than from other public communicators. However, it is a huge misrepresentation to believe that all muslims hold radical views and it eschews the fact that many &quot;real&quot; Canadians are not moderates and are not very attuned to what happens in the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many things here.</p>
<p>First, as has been said before, banning the Quran doesn&#039;t make any sense. If we are to ban this book, we should do the same with a broad swath of other writings, among which the Bible (it does contain pretty violent passages advocating massacre of civilians, for instance in Exodus or in the Psalms). And by the way, I guess most of the commentators here who speak in favor of this banning are the same who vigourously defend freedom of speech when prompted by Mark Steyn. This said, I am NOT a defender of section 13, so don&#039;t jump on this argument. I only mean that if you really want freedom of speech, censorship is not an option. It should be obvious anyways.</p>
<p>Second, if identity matters as for integration, employment is the thing most immigrants long after. They care about getting a job much more than they do about keeping their old identity. That&#039;s why they came here in the beginning.</p>
<p>I do recognize that heinous speech from the part of muslim preachers should not be accepted more than from other public communicators. However, it is a huge misrepresentation to believe that all muslims hold radical views and it eschews the fact that many &quot;real&quot; Canadians are not moderates and are not very attuned to what happens in the world.</p>
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