If de Gaulle were speaking today

by Andrew Coyne on Thursday, December 3, 2009 1:59pm - 68 Comments

Her Majesty’s Loyal Opposition reacts:

Today’s statement by the President of France is a stinging indictment of Prime Minister Pearson’s provocative refusal to engage with France on the question of Quebec’s liberation.

His petulant insistence on the unity of Canada could surely have been predicted to offend President de Gaulle.

It is clear we have much work to do to repair relations.

Etc etc.

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  • Greg

    Sorry, you lost me.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Crit_Reasoning Crit_Reasoning

    Bob Rae's reponse was a national disgrace. If he truly believes that China intended to grievously insult Canada (I don't), then he should be defending Canada, not siding with China. What a weasel.

  • Mike T.

    Keep diggin!

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/s_c_f s_c_f

    Him and Layton are the biggest weasels in Parliament. They both make Iggy look good.

  • Blues Clair

    Quick, grab a Canadian flag, any will do, small or big (preferably not one Made in China). This is a matter of not only national pride, but unity.

  • Trillium

    Apparently Canada can dish it out, but we can't take it.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Raging_Ranter Raging_Ranter

      Every time we dish it out, the pants-pi$$ers are talking about "our loss of international stature". Seems we can't dish much either.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/LynnTO LynnTO

    Well, I guess now we know why Bob's not the leader of the LPC.

    Has anyone been reading his blog lately?

  • Anon Liberal

    Oh! It's DISLOYAL of the opposition to criticize Harper for mishandling our relations with China – a perfectly valid criticism that Liberals have been making for a while now – because the Chinese PM just confirmed this was the case? We should instead be circling the wagons, eh? OK.

    Well who can be surprised by such tactics from the opposition eh AC? After all they hate our troops too.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/WDM WDM

    I don't like it either. But the Prime Minister reaps what he sews. Political posturing on all sides is getting more than a bit tiresome, but if the PM isn't going to respect his own office what he spouts off at the mouth about the Opposition hating the troops, I don't see any reason, why Opposition MPs (some of whom have been directly labelled "Taliban Jack") owe the PM, or the office anything in that regard.

  • Lord Kitchener's Own

    If de Gaulle were speaking today he'd be a zombie.

    Or possibly a vampire.

    Either way, with a supernatural creature from the beyond running around, lusting after our brains (or possibly our blood) is the opposition's reaction to his speech really what we would be focusing on, or would we all be better served coming together to look for ways to decapitate de Gaulle, regardless of how we each individually feel about his attack on our easily wounded pride? Honestly, Coyne. PRIORITIES.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Crit_Reasoning Crit_Reasoning

    Back in Pearson's day, the Government and Opposition usually tried to present a united front when dealing with diplomatic issues and foreign heads of government. The principle was "Canada first".

    These days, the moribund Opposition parties are so desperate to try to embarrass the Prime Minister on the world stage that they're willing to say or do anything to try to make it happen.

    When Bob Rae backed up China's criticism this morning, it was the perfect example of sort of tawdry display we've come to expect from the Opposition. So much for "Canada first".

  • Anon Liberal

    Someone in AC's previous post below nailed it. If Harper's criticisms of China's human rights practices were anything other than hot air than we would have seen substantive action, for instance a trade embargo of Chinese products, etc.

    As it is he damaged a very important economic relationship for what exactly? Some have argued he was trying to please his base. I think the real problem is that Jean Chrétien pursued the China file in a very different manner so naturally that is EVIL and Harper has to do the opposite, or appear to do the opposite at least. It just took 5 years for Harper to admit he made a dumba** mistake. Now, how long do you suppose we'll have to wait for him to retract the crticism he used to make of Chrétien on this issue,

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/WDM WDM

    I just can't get worked up over this. Maybe it's because of my distaste for the PM. The way he treats opponents (and through his hyperbole his own office) makes me wonder why any Opposition MP should speak up for him at all. I suppose everyone staying quiet would be a compromise.

  • Anon Liberal

    I am sure there are plenty of examples of Diefenbaker criticizing Pearson's foreign policy. Shall I start looking for some?

    Harper badly bungled our relations with China and the opposition is doing its job in criticizing him for doing so.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Raging_Ranter Raging_Ranter

      Badly bungled. They're still our second-largest trading partner aren't they? They're still supplying our Wal-Marts with cheaply made goods aren't they? When that stops, the relationship has indeed been bungled. Until then, it's business as usual.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Jack_Mitchell Jack Mitchell

    I fear the record of Stephen Harper remains unsurpassed in that regard, owing to the absolutely disgraceful — permanently disgraceful — letter he sent to the WSJ during the leadup to the Iraq War.

    The equivalent on this would be Bob Rae publishing a letter in the China Daily approving of this rebuke and condemning Canada's human rights record. Instead, he just spoke domestically, as Harper should have done in 2003. It will be a long time before an opposition leader manages to disgrace us as badly as Harper did in the WSJ.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Crit_Reasoning Crit_Reasoning

      Jack, I just wanted to give you some belated kudos for your devastatingly effective rejoinder!

  • http://www.TennisVagabond.com Big Dave S

    Please don't dare them Jack!

  • Anon Liberal

    Jack Mitchell is exactly right.

  • User-Content

    You have a lot of nerve, Coyne. I'll give you that.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/zamprelli4731 Zamprelli

    Well, that settles that. Thanks, Jack.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/TwoYen TwoYen

    Bob Rae was wrong, not because he took China's side, but because this was not nearly the huge rebuke that opposition parties claim.

    The leaders of both countries have an interest in having good relations. How this will be implemented will be based on national interests, not on whether it helps to score partisan politcal gain for the opposition in Canada.

  • User-Content

    You'd think Andrew Coyne would have remembered that?

    Either he does and is just shilling for the Cons as usual or is not nearly as bright as the rest of us think he is.

    I'll charitably assume the former.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Nich Nich

    Since when has any political party put Canada first? How much higher of a standard are we supposed to hold the opposition to than the governing party?

    The flag, like the troops, are nothing more than props, an abstraction of nationalism. Anyone who analyzes politics along these lines is a partisan, not a rational observer.

  • wilson

    But when Bob Rae needed defending,
    the Harper govt stepped up, for him.

    ''OTTAWA — The federal government has formally registered its "dismay and displeasure" with the Sri Lankan government over the deportation of Liberal foreign affairs critic, Bob Rae.

    Read more: http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=16…

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Raging_Ranter Raging_Ranter

      They were dismayed and displeased Sri Lanka sent Bob Rae back. I'd complain too.

  • User-Content

    No enough of that, I'm afraid.

    Too bad. So sad.

  • wilson

    'damaged a very important economic relationship'??
    Not according to:

    http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomm…

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