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The firefighter’s job is changing as ever more medical calls come in

by Rachel Mendleson on Monday, December 7, 2009 11:36am - 244 Comments

Every pump truck in Winnipeg has a cross-trained firefighter-paramedic

“Maisie,” an elderly Toronto woman whose chain smoking often leaves her gasping for air, is so well-known to the firefighters at the nearby station that when her address is announced on the loudspeaker, they all bellow her name. They lumber up the dark stairwell to her squalid apartment as often as three or four times a night. On this particular occasion, they listen to her breathing and give her oxygen. After the paramedics arrive, her colour improves. She signs a waiver, refusing to allow EMS to take her to hospital. On his way out, the fire hall captain empties an ashtray, and places a few dirty dishes in the sink.

While firefighters may be known more for their courage than caregiving, the reality, says Susan Braedley, a post-doctoral fellow at York University’s Institute for Health Research, is “they’re doing more emergency medical care than anything else.” In 2006, 52 per cent of calls to the Toronto Fire Service were medical in nature—a statistic that prompted Braedley to spend 10 months observing the city’s firefighters. Her research, which includes the visit to Maisie’s home, is slated for publication by the McGill Queens University Press next spring in a book entitled Neoliberalism and Everyday Life. According to Braedley, the “accidental assignment of some health care provision” to firefighters has been brought on by several factors: better fire prevention, which has freed up firefighters for other tasks; aging baby boomers; a dearth of family doctors, which has forced marginalized populations to use 911 as a way into the system. It’s a shift that has been subtle and the source of conflict. The result, however, is clear: in municipalities across Canada, what it means to be a firefighter is changing significantly.

Firefighters have long played an informal role in health care delivery. Until the ’70s, when formalized paramedicine became an integral component of emergency health care, they were often called upon to administer oxygen and deliver CPR. Though paramedics eventually assumed, and dramatically improved upon, pre-hospital care, firefighters continued to assist, particularly on calls where lives are at risk. (In some smaller centres, like Brandon, Man., and Lethbridge, Alta., the paramedic service grew out of the fire departments; today, members are cross-trained to perform all emergency rescue tasks.) With the push to improve survival rates for cardiac arrests—brain function begins to deteriorate after just six minutes—firefighters were called upon more often, in large part due to the speed at which they can arrive on scene. Due to pressure from home insurers, in urban areas, a pump truck is rarely more than five minutes away.

Today, the Toronto experience is hardly unique. In Prince George, B.C., where, according to fire captain and union president John Iverson, two-thirds of calls to fire departments are medical, “Everybody that gets into this business now fully understands it’s a huge part of their job.” To Iverson, increasing their medical capabilities just makes sense. So, last year, the Prince George fire service became the first in the province to increase the medical training of most of its members to Emergency Medical Responder (EMR) level. But because of provincial regulations limiting the degree of medical attention firefighters can provide, they’ve not been able to put their new skills to use. “We didn’t anticipate there would be such a bottleneck trying to get through the system,” he says. “From my members’ point of view, it’s extremely frustrating.”

According to Jim Lee, a former firefighter and the Ottawa-based assistant to the general president of the International Association of Fire Fighters (IAFF), “We’ve been trying, on an ongoing basis, to educate the politicians that we’re a resource that they should be using.” In 2002, the IAFF made a presentation to the Romanow commission, arguing that “the true potential [of firefighters] in the realm of EMS remains largely untapped.” But despite emergency room delays, which, in some municipalities, tie up ambulances to the point where not a single EMS vehicle is available for hours at a time, Lee says that, since 2002, not much has changed. “The political will is still not there.”

Though the specific guidelines that regulate the provision of emergency medical care vary, in both Ontario and B.C. firefighters are limited to basic assistance in life-threatening situations, such as providing oxygen to an asthmatic or applying a defibrillator to someone in cardiac arrest. But in B.C., change could be on the horizon: the province is reviewing regulations that govern what firefighters can and can’t do in emergencies, and, as a pilot project, Prince George firefighters will soon be allowed to practice some EMR-level skills under the supervision of a medical director.

But as they inch further into the realm of emergency medicine, firefighters also find themselves at odds with those whose reason for existence is pre-hospital care: paramedics. Darryl Wilton, president of Ottawa’s Professional Paramedic Association, decries the push by fire departments to take on more medical responsibility as partly “hard-core unionism” in the face of a “diminished primary function.” Some paramedics express concerns about medical oversight and training of firefighters: would-be paramedics must beat out fierce competition to gain acceptance into difficult college programs, which take years to complete. But beyond that, Ottawa paramedic chief Anthony Di Monte says he worries that summoning firefighters to a wider range of medical calls would detract from what they were trained to do. “I would be diminishing the suppression capacity in my city. What if there was a major fire?” Cardiac arrests, he says, make up a mere one per cent of the total EMS call volume.

Though the turf war does not play out on the ground, where, by all accounts, the interaction between emergency responders is good, it has caused some animosity behind the scenes. Dispatch times are a major sticking point for firefighters: in life-threatening situations, they say they are sometimes alerted after EMS, despite the fact that they can often arrive faster. EMS, meanwhile, says that fire is alerted the moment it is determined that lives are at risk. (The process varies, but generally a 911 call is answered by an attendant in a central location, who transfers it to fire, police or ambulance. In life-threatening situations, such as a heart attack, the ambulance dispatch forwards the call to police and fire. Likewise, in the case of a burning building, fire summons police and ambulance.)

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  • Chris Mc

    The use of fire aparatus and ALS trained firefighters in first reponse is an excellent first step toward the most efficient model of emergency response. I think the ultimate goal is a fully integrated system where both ambulance and fire trucks are manned by members trained in 1001 and advanced life support. (For the layman 1001 is an international fire training accreditation). Pumper trucks co-respond with ambulances on critical calls and are only used as first response when no ambulance is available. If a pumper is to respond alone there is no degradation in service as the pumper has all of the ALS equipment, drugs, and trained personel an ambulance does. By far this is the most efficient system.

  • Chris Mc

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    I don't think anyone will argue that. The resistance comes from the integration of 2 previous separate entities with there own policies, public perceptions, traditions and yes; unions. It willbe a logistical nightmare to amlagamate these service completely as both side will have to make concessions but the ends justifies means. I along with hundreds of other Paramedic/FF (ACP/FF for my non Albertans) have the fortune of already working for integrated departments. And yes I'm sure someone will point out that Alberta Health Services is attempting to remove the ambulances from municipal jurisdiction, but just because AHS thinks something is a good idea doesn't make it so. The bottom line is we are all public servants and the public desrve the most efficient model.

    • Squint

      And oddly enough some of we ALS providers believe that this is an improved model in delivery of Health Care Services, improved utilization, improved communications networks and based with the other members of the Health Care Team to improve and maintain skill sets. Show me one ALS Paramedic that does NOT want to spend more time in ER, Angio, Mat, and observing Surgery and I will show you a FF/Medic.

      If one looks to the US Florida or California and how the Fire/Medics and statistics in evaluation of skills and success rates in arrest or even ETI its a no Brainer that this is just not the way to go in Canada. btw is IAFF an influence in these areas … YOU BET THEY ARE !

      • Chris Mc

        I support Paramedics (ACP) in the hospital setting. I think they can be better utilized than RNs and LPNs in many departments. I also support running ambulances out of hopsitals strickly for interfacility transfers. And yes a hospital based paramedic that spends time in ER, Angio, Mat , and the OR would be better suited at critical long distance transfers. But thats where I draw the line. Emergency scene responses is the Paramedic/Firefighter bread and butter. I'd rather work on a multi trauma from an MVC in a ditch in -40 than transport a critical patient 5 hours. Pre-hospital scene response and hospital based are 2 different unwritten specialties. Lets stop pretending they're not.

        On a side note I am a proud member of the IAFF. But they have no say in what the province of Alberta and AHS legislate. This has nothing to do with unions. We're talking about the same set of skill being used in 2 different settings. We both know paramedics are no longer just pre-hospital emergency medical service providers. We've move into a more clinical setting. This stigma of what we do has to change. Some of us will stay on the front lines and some of us want to move into hospitals. .

      • judas priest

        somebody needs to do their homework about AHS !! Obviously has not been in the industry that long.

  • Medicgord

    Getting a emergency responder to a pt's side is only part of the equation. Rapid transport to definitive care is also a large part of that equation. It doesn't matter how many drugs or lifesaving skills a Paramedic or Firemedic has, if they cannot transport to an appropriate recieving facility those drugs and skills mean little.

    The answer is not to cross-train firefighters to paramedic levels, but to put more paramedic staffed ambulances on the road to shorten response times.

    I'm not up on the latest wages, but I suspect this probably makes sense financially as well due to wage differences between firefighters and paramedics.

  • ALSFF

    Is there a model that will work for all Cities/Municipalities, or rural areas? I really doubt it! Is it beneficial to get a trained caregiver there to start the good ole "Chain of Survival"? You bet it is! Whether that person arrives on a Fire appartus or in an Ambulance, it will improve the chances of a cardiac arrest victim greatly (and many other patients as well)
    I am proud to be a FF/ALS Paramedic and work in a Fire Dept. that has been providing Ambulance service to our community since 1912. And it works GREAT for this community. I doubt that our model would work in Toronto, but having a FF there in 5 minutes and starting the "chain" is better than 8-10 with nothing at all.

  • Rob

    I will 1st off say I am a Paramedic and yes I am biased and think we have the best job in the world. I work in Ottawa where we have a "Tiered response" system where the Ottawa Fire Service responds to unconscious, seizures, MVC's etc… I have a great working relationship with the fire 1st response and find them a valuable asset to have on big calls for their ability to do CPR, carry my equipment and assist me in getting my patient to the truck and on to the hospital. That is where their job ends… They have a role and that is to provide 1st aid and CPR and they do an excellent job at it. I give positive feedback and send emails to their capt. when they do an excellent job in "Assisting us".

  • ALSFF

    Is there a model that will work for all Cities/Municipalities, or rural areas? I really doubt it! Is it beneficial to get a trained caregiver there to start the good ole "Chain of Survival"? You bet it is! Whether that person arrives on a Fire appartus or in an Ambulance, it will improve the chances of a cardiac arrest victim greatly (and many other patients as well)__I am proud to be a FF/ALS Paramedic and work in a Fire Dept. that has been providing Ambulance service to our community since 1912. And it works GREAT for this community. I doubt that our model would work in Toronto, but having a FF there in 5 minutes and starting the "chain" is better than 8-10 with nothing at all.

    • Squint

      Perhaps look to the studies, Seattle and Vancouver out of hospital arrest survival … are you teaching CPR to assist in the "Chain of Survival" ? Boasting that your service has in some way superior is personal opinion, that this is GREAT is again just chest pounding and false bravado.

      Are you aware of what the local and rural strictly Ambulance operations think of you …. please a reality check is in order and well past due.

  • Ronald Marr

    Here, Here. Another inflated attempt for the fire dept to justify their overinflated budgets. The reason fire dept's are called upon is because they are more often then not, available at their fire hall. Ambulances are often not due to their call volume. The focus is on the wrong area here. We need more invested into the Emergency Medical System and bring more trained and educated paramedics to where they are needed. Training the firefighters to do more medical calls only disperses the funding and does not solve the problem at the root. Put the money into the EMS services so they can do what they do best..Save lives. Leave the fire department to put out their fires and then we can evaluate their budgets and "need" based on their own stats not on the tail of the EMS.

  • sethball

    I’ve read a good number of these posts and much of what I am reading is bickering amongst the unions and preservation of each others jobs. Well good work. Apparantly, what best for John Q. Public doesn’t matter.

    Being a firefighter, then a paramedic, then a paramedic manager then a fire chief…the basis is simple…what is best for the patient, what is going to best serve John Q. Public!

    Being from both sides of the coin (where the services are separate) the need to do this and combine the services to service the public both with care and service needs, but to alleviate the tax burden that both services place on each and every tax payer.

    With ballooning budgets, the answer is not always “lets throw some more money at the problem” but to “look at what we have to achieve better results” and the data speaks loads…case in point – Winnipeg AND many cities, towns and regions within the USA. Yes I said it, the USA.

    Quit the bickering because at the end of the day its not us that have the power to make these decisions, it comes back to the will of the public through the politicians.

    In ending I will add…the paramedic service where I am from supports the integrated model…this is something that we will begin planning for in the very near future. Watch for the headlines!

    • wayne

      You are so correct on all points. The bickering MUST stop. The front line people, Firefighters and Paramedics are at the will of the politicians.

      • Squint

        I guess you do not believe in the democratic process nor transparency of government nor fiscal responsibility.

        Bicker ? Well not me, I play out my role in holding government agencies responsible and accountable anything less is un Canadian.

    • Squint

      First off a huge difference between bickering and informed intelligent debate.

      So you make a good point there sethball the BEST for the PATIENT and then complicate it with Public safety and Fire protection service.

      Throw money at the problem NO …. throw Brains at it for long term, look over the big ponds to see what they are doing there first shall we?

      And I absolutely disagree comparing US to Canada is like comparing apples to kiwi fruit , yes the data speaks for itself, lower standards in education, higher costs for response, increased Health Care Insurance rates (volunteer services everywhere) and have you noticed Obama and his incentive to improve Health Care for all, just saying.

      Oh yea Do you have a chopper every 20 square miles too that crash and kill entire crews ever month ?

      Don't know where your from mate but quite obvious your Pro integrated services and not what is the best delivery services … please stop your whining.

  • Ken

    Can't possibly read all the comments, Seems most are like little kids fighting over the last cookie anyway. Don't see much concern for people in need of help just mostly turf protection. Any way in the few comments I did read there were mention of the Toronto fire fighter in the picture read the caption on the photo pasted below. Just goes to show that some people are not very astute are they, sure hope they are more through at there jobs.

    Every pump truck in Winnipeg has a cross-trained firefighter-paramedic

    • Squint

      Nope some of us fight for the best way to care for the actual patients and don't use IAFF union tactics to accomplish this.

      And your cross trained are "primary" care not Advanced Life Support Providers in passing.

  • Fire EMS

    I only have just over a year of experience as a full time PCP and 5 years experience as a volunteer fire fighter and Ive seen first hand what a great system having PCP training on the fire side is an asset in both rural and urban setting. These are two different jobs with different cultures but when you have 6 or 8 people working together and forgetting which group you belong to the patient care is always almost better. You see the difference in patient care when you have a firefighter that hates doing medical or a paramedic that hates the fire dept. and they cannot see pass that the patient care suffers. So what im really trying to say is lets forget what patch we have on our arms and do what is best for the patient because… isnt that what we are there for. So i encourage every firefighter, FIRE/PCP, PCP, ICP, ACP to forget the two differences and work together. I agree EMS needs more funding but I dont think cutting the Fire Dept. budget is the way. The system is not perfect, some bugs need to be worked out, but if both sides listen to one another we might get there!

  • medicUK

    Obviously a one sided argument pro FF, with a token statement from EMS.
    Here in the UK FF do not respond to medical calls but given the stats regarding fire calls decreasing, the FF management are itching to do medical calls to justify their budget.
    They are very professional and good at their jobs, but they shouldn't dilute their skills by branching out into EMS.
    If the govt. want the same response times from EMS as fire can deliver, then fund EMS appropriately. Also fund fire appropriately as to their decreasing workloads.

  • Squint

    Well said medic UK !

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/jjmedic jjmedic

    Sooooo let me get this straight. Most of the FF on here seem to be all for providing first aid and what not when they are first on scene and determining whether an ambulance is actually required or if said ambulance can keep roaming to remain available for real medical emergencies. Soooo hows about this. All ambulances carry fire extinguishers. Hows about paramedics go to minor fires that can be put out with a simple fire extinguisher that way fire trucks remain available for more serious fires??

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/jjmedic jjmedic

    Fact of the matter is…we each have our own specialties. I dont want to fight fires and I'm pretty sure most FF dont want give medical care. Truth is, its easy to teach someone how to use the tools. I know how to use a hose and a fire extinguisher. I'm sure lots of FF know how to use spray bottles and push a plunger on a needle, and push a button. Fact is….FF dont know the mechanics behind what the medication there giving is doing. All they know is "chest pain = nitro". And I admit that I dont know jack about the inner workings of a fire, but I'm not tring to be a FF. If you dont know the inner workings of the body and know exactly what your doing, your going to do more harm than good. If you mean it when you say that your thinking about the patients best interests, then stick with what you know and are trained to do.

  • Ontario medic

    As a medic, I like having the FFs on calls where their expertise matters such as MVCs, rescues, or when we need sheer manpower to extricate patients in cardiac arrest, seizure, or those that are unconscious as it frees my partner and I to provide patient care. Our EMS-FD relationship can be rocky at times, but overall, our guys know how to assist us in the best manner possible.

    I don't know about Manitoba, but in Ontario, EVERY medic is prohibited from advising a patient they don't need to be seen in the ED. If that is the desired end result, the Ministry of Health will have none of it. I also can't foresee municipalities paying FFs their wages and tuition to go to school for two years (as is the minimum requirement by the Ontario MOH) while paying OT to the others to cover their shifts. Nor do I see FDs submit the Fire Marshal AND MOH regulations/laws. As far as response times go, we are stationed in the fire halls, sometimes we get paged first, sometimes second, but we always arrive on scene first.What about the areas covered by volly FFs?

  • Ontairo medic

    In relation to assessments, physicians at our hospitals recognise that medics are the best for assessing patients, even more than themselves and nurses (their words, not mine) as it is what we do day in, day out. I've have calls for "arm pain" and called it in as a stroke following a detailed assessment. It was a TIA or mini-stroke. Lethargy and minor confusion due to an intracranial bleed. If one wants to effectively recognise the many subtleties of the multiples health related problems, you have to be exposed to it on a daily basis. Currently, it is not something that FFs are in any way capable of doing at this time.

  • ONT FF

    Most FF I know have minimal interest in providing advanced medical care. Personally were quite happy when we turn the corner and see the ambulance already on scene. I'm quite content to stand back and take direction from EMS. They are the higher medical authority. I have no problem priming an IV, performing CPR, setting up the stretcher or carrying a stair chair. Anything to make their job easier so they can focus their attention on the patient. Isn't patient care the main priority? EMS is underfunded and unfortunately they don't receive the same public recognition (hero label) as FF. Sad and unfair.

    • Squint

      Well at least one FF sees the bigger picture, is a team player in the delivery of pre hospital health care, agreed and thanks there ONT FF.

      As far as recognition, well just speaking for myself: Ones rewards come from that touch of the hand from the little old gal in CHF thats now breathing easier, the homeless drunk off the street that recognize you on that frequent flyer call and calm down immediately …. because they know your name and its "hey bro wasup " The mother of the 6 year old asthmatic child that can't speak because of the tears in her eyes but you know that she is great full, the Rural Family Practice MD when you show up to fly that poly trauma MVC patient out, so he can get back to providing primary care to his community and TRY to catch up with the waiting room back load. The overladed nursing home LPN when that suspected CVA patient (and most likely a close with) receives the care they need.

      Ones rewards are not of this world and ANY thanks is just gravy, just the way it is.

  • http://www.madd.ca nine one one

    Big change in Topic, this news reporter should do better reporting before doing a huge Mag article….
    Firefighters always in the glory!!! This is not Glory…….
    I was shocked this week to find out how many fire fighters have impaired charges,and the fire services hide the issue???
    Clarington (East of Toronto) ,has a captain still working, I know we all like to drink, but i think, if you work in this type of job, you would totally not drink and drive
    But the 3 district Chiefs will slide it under the carpet, Why 3 Chiefs?
    I am a tax payer and totally embarrassed that we have a criminal firefighter on the service, just shows the competence of the 3 chiefs, this firefighter just got charged with driving with no license, do they do there jobs
    I know its different from topic,but I am concerned ,all papers,magazines and Tv all show the Fire fighters as hero's, now the Whitby Church fire,first big fire in years.No one cares about human life
    Lets start thinking about one big regional fire dept in the region of durham,Why pay 17 chiefs????
    Tax payer

  • Ed Peters

    You tell me which is more cost effective. Staffing more ambulances ($100-130 thousand dollar piece of equipment plus wages for two paramedics per shift) or continuing to staff fire/rescue apparatus that would otherwise sit idle ($200 thousand plus piece of equipment plus wages for four firefighters per shift)? Don't forget first responding firefighters will still need to call for an ambulance every time a patient requires transport. Do not be fooled by the IAFF PR machine. The number of structure fires has been steadily declining for many years and once busy departments are now looking for other ways to justify their existence.

  • Boink

    NEWSFLASH.

    Fire/PCP = Primary Care paramedic
    PCP on ambulance = Primary Care Paramedic

    most of winnipeg ambulance paramedics = PCP

    uhh…

  • Ontario medic

    Firemedics in Ontario will never exist. Why? Because according to the Ontario Ambulace Act one must, legally be a paramedic to provide patient care. The 3 legislated requirements are:
    1- Be a graduate of an approved Ambulace and Emergency Care programme;
    2- Be certified by a Base Hospital; and
    3- Be employed by an ambulance service

    Since firemedics would be employed by a fire dept, they do not meet the legal requirements to provide patient care within the paramedic scope of practice.

  • Tired argument

    "So on a 911 medical just call ask yourself would one question you rather see:
    A Fire Fighter EMR show up at your door or an highly trained medically Professional?"

    Speaking as a paramedic of 15 years, eight of which at the CCP license, and as a volunteer with fire departments for about 12 years, I want to see someone arrive AND LEAVE WITH ME QUICKLY for the hospital. Fire can do both, so can police (Baltimore, Maryland's State Troopers & NYC's ESU). The problem with EMS & Fire is both have adapted poorly and slowly. EMS puts too much stock in its "our advanced skills" and Fire in its "hero history". Give me someone with symptom relief, ASA, Defib/AED and the absence of an inflated sense of self, solid triage and assessment capability, and I couldn't care less if it said, "Ladies Auxillary" on their shoulder.

  • Andy McCabe, ACP

    Why is it that no one looks at the per-capita cost of emergency services in a given community, sees that fire service usually have the second highest budget, sometimes the highest depending on how polices services are delivered, yet are the most inefficient, sending a non-transport capable vehicle with 4-5 firefighters to put one oxygen mask on one pt. the majority of the time, occassionally defibrilate and do cpr, when for a fraction of that cost, ems delivers comprehensive basic and advanced medical intervention and transport capability, often with only 2 paramedics. It's about time the politicians and public looked beyond the "hero" facade, demanded accountability and seriously considered where to invest hard earned tax dollares to best serve their communities.

  • raz

    Interesting. Alberta Health Services is on the process of dissmanteling all 16 of it's Integrated FIRE / EMS departments. Crushing all dual trained emergency ALS providers. The fear is that after this outcome, there will cease to remain any ALS pumps in the province.

  • Nurguts

    I hate paramedics. All they do is whine and bitch and complain. If they don't like their job then go be a garbageman or something. We firefighters like to refer to them as our "little sisters" beacause they are always tattling and trying to cause trouble among the greatest job in the world. Firefighting.

    • Squint

      And I hate asparagus …. the point was what again , oh yes Nurguts is a child.

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