Colby Cosh

Colby Cosh

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Cashing in Pat Robertson's "pure gold"

by Colby Cosh on Sunday, January 17, 2010 4:51am - 137 Comments

Hey, isn’t it a little early for Rex Murphy to be going after soft targets like Pat Robertson in the National Post? And isn’t intellectual hygiene a desirable thing even in the pursuit of such small game? I understand that no sensible Christian of any denomination would endorse Robertson’s Wednesday remarks suggesting that Haiti is cursed because it bought its independence by bargaining with the devil. But to make Robertson’s remarks the occasion for catcalling at the irreligious really seems like going over the top. Rex writes:

He, Robertson, fulfills every agitated secularist’s caricature of a “dedicated” Christian. If Pat Robertson didn’t exist, Richard Dawkins (with a little midwifery from Christopher Hitchens) would have to give birth to him.

Well, golly, Rex, that’s as may be, but Dawkins and Hitchens didn’t have to invent Pat Robertson, now did they? They found the world with him already in it. I’m afraid all of us, believers and infidels, must deal with the Christianity we’ve got.

Murphy goes on to complain that “Robertson’s outburst is pure gold for the ‘enlightened’ secularist view our age holds of the Christian outlook. It will continue to be mined in the late-night monologues, stuff the op-eds of ‘progressive’ papers, and will serve as justifying illustration for the demeaning hostility that is a marked feature of much modern thinking on faith.” Perhaps though carelessness on the part of the author, this has been stated in such a way that the most rabid atheist could agree unconditionally with it, and add that “The demeaning hostility will continue until it is no longer deserved.”

Since Murphy felt the need to lash out at an innocent third party while carrying on an intramural fight between Christians, I suppose one might point out that even the wicked Pat Robertson is entitled to just treatment at the hands of his critics. In talking about the “curse” he believes Haiti lies under, Robertson was referring to a genuine event in the annals of that country’s revolutionary struggle—the 1791 Voodoo prayer for liberty in the Bois Caïman. As some liberal and perhaps even “secularist” observers have pointed out, this aspect of Haitian history is something of a legitimate problem for traditional Haitian Christians. It might even be a problem for a sincere Catholic who took the trouble to inquire into it! Would Rex Murphy, squeezed into 18th-century breeches and sent by time machine to the Bois Caïman, have happily pledged his life to the destruction of the “pitiless” “white men’s god”? Freely inquiring minds want to know!

One way or another, we cannot find Robertson guilty of “telling [Haitians] the earthquake was their own fault”; as fantastic and irresponsible as his account is, it lays the blame at the feet of the country’s long-dead founding fathers, and there is nothing wrong with or cruel about that in itself. As one old philosopher might have said here, sufficient unto the day is the evil of Pat Robertson. We need not invent more.

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  • http://dougsamu.worpress.com doug rogers

    duplicate remnants of clipboard pasted somehow because i can't login.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/doug_rogers doug_rogers

    More on Haiti's situation by Te Rall

    http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/01/14-13

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/SisyphusThis SisyphusThis

    Laydeez an' gennamen … for your delight and edification permit me to present the innovative
    and erudite amusical stylings of No-aaam Chompsky ….

    http://books.zcommunications.org/chomsky/year/yea…

    … looong … and with foot-notes !!

  • Lise Legault

    Robertson is a Pentecostal Christian. Pentecostals emphasize the old formulae for driving out malevolent spirits, as did that Jesus fellow in the New Testament. Scoffers, remember that many people do fear malevolent witchcraft and possession. To set them free, it is seldom enough to tell them that their fears are nonsense. They do benefit when told that a priest or minister has driven out such spirits in the name of Jesus. The Pentecostal movement has made great gains in the rural parts of Latin America and in Africa. One reason is that Pentecostal pastors are not too cautious to exorcise evil or nuisance spirits. What's more, communities that have experienced conversions of this kind tend to improve rapidly in purely secular ways: less alcohol, less time-wasting, less adultery, more solid families, etc.

    Robertson's dismissal of Vodou may in fact offer Haitians the best possible route to taking possession of themselves and their destinies. That isn't enough, no doubt, to improve the lot of a, well, Godforsaken place like Haiti. But I suspect it's an essential first step.

    • Jan

      Embracing Catholicism isn';t enough?

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/madeyoulook madeyoulook

        Nope.

      • Lise Legault

        If I hadn't had to shorten my original comment, this might have been clearer: No, embracing Catholicism isn't enough nowadays, because modern Catholicism, especially in the missionary orders in recent years, has tended to reject or avoid the casting out of demons through a mixture of embarrassment, caution, and lack of belief in such things. The Pentecostals have been very successful among superstitious peoples because they don't share that embarrassment.

        • Jan

          You'll have to flesh that one out a bit more. Are you saying the Catholic church has failed because it has abandoned exorcism?

          • Lise Legault

            I'm saying that the Church has lost ground in the Americas because so many of its pastors there embraced political activism and failed to realise that sometimes the best way to free people from the burden of fear is by – ahem – exorcism. But what I really wanted to say is that the best way to help people who believe in possession by malevolent spirits is to offer them the hope of freedom by exorcism. Once exorcised, such people often pull themselves together enough to fight their earthly battles more effectively. The astonishing success of the Pentecostal movement in rural regions where belief in the supernatural abounds is a testament to that fact, as is the corresponding rise in the fortunes of Pentecostal adherents in poor countries.

          • Gary

            Pentecostal movement is more off the wall than I thought. Evil spirits and exorcisms please do not insult us. Lying and deceiving in the name of a bronze age myth.

          • Jan

            So, the way to free people who believe in demonic possession – is to remove the demons?

    • YSP

      This is a church that puts "Tabernacle" in giant letters on the front of their churches in the francophone regions of Ontario.

  • Gainsbourg

    I'll see your Pat Robertson and raise you a Sharon "The China quake was karma for Tibet" Stone plus Danny "Global Warming caused the Haiti quake" Glover. Actually in the Buddhist tradition the idea that a quake could be caused by bad actions is quite common.

    Oh, and I just typed "Haiti deal with devil" in my favourite search engine to see if there was any truth to what he said; Robertson's right, as a matter of history. It happened:

    "In Haiti’s capital Port-au-Prince today you can see an iron pig statue. It commemorates the ritual of the African religion Americans today call Voodoo conducted by Boukman on August 14, 1791.

    A pig on that day was ritually killed. The escaped slaves joined in drinking its still-warm blood as part of a pact. Boukman led his followers in vowing that they and their children would serve the pagan gods of the island, including the devil, for exactly 200 years in exchange for freedom from the French." – http://97.74.65.51/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=14079
    See also: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boukman. (edit: just noticed you mentioned this in the article; I stopped reading after a certain point. Whatever.)

    Robertson didn't actually say that the pact cause the quake, he said there was a pact (True) and that Haiti is cursed (true, figuratively if not literally). I doubt even 1 in a 100 lib-left journos were aware of that story. I can't even say Robertson's remarks were insensitive, they certainly weren't untrue; the pig-ignorant (heh) leftist anti-Christian media chimped out and went all concern troll is what happened here.

    • Reader

      What — nobody on the right is an atheist, agnostic or skeptical of organized religion?

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/doug_rogers doug_rogers

      You offer the commonly misunderstood meaning of karma. From The Pali Dictionary by by Ven. Nyanatiloka

      "karma (Sanskrit), Pàli: kamma: ‘action’, correctly
      speaking denotes the wholesome and unwholesome
      volitions (kusala- and akusala-cetanà) and their con-
      comitant mental factors, causing rebirth and shaping
      the destiny of beings. These karmical volitions (kamma
      cetanà) become manifest as wholesome or unwhole-
      some actions by body (kàya-kamma), speech (vacã-
      kamma) and mind (mano-kamma). Thus the Buddhist
      term ‘karma’ by no means signifies the result of actions,
      and quite certainly not the fate of man, or perhaps even
      of whole nations (the so-called wholesale or mass-
      karma), misconceptions which, through the influence of
      theosophy, have become widely spread in the West. "

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/DerekPearce DerekPearce

      Robertson did not mean that Haiti was cursed figuratively at all, he meant it quite literally.

  • YSP

    Hmm . . . the link didn't work. It's http://www.conservapedia.com/Main_Page.

    Hours of fun and outrage.

  • JJM

    "He is the Don Cherry of commentators."

    Was this supposed to be an insult?

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/s_c_f s_c_f

    Well, this sort of behaviour is a contributor:
    http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/751792-…

    But, if they insist on beating people to death and setting them on fire, perhaps they might prevent the children from watching.

    In a more general sense, they might wish to consider Applebaum's suggestions: http://www.slate.com/id/2241861/

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/doug_rogers doug_rogers

      scuffy says; \”But, if they insist on beating people to death and setting them on fire, perhaps they might prevent the children from watching.\”

      In short; 'They're savages.'

      And as to linked article at Slate, I see even after correcting a couple of factual errors, the piece, a descriptive essay about how hard it is to look at pictures in the last few days, she offers; \”…the weakness of civil society and the absence of rule of law in Haiti.\” as a reason.

      In short, 'They're savages.'

      Link to picture of a looter being beaten to death

      In short, 'They're savages.'

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/s_c_f s_c_f

        No. You can go off on your wild tangents, but that is not what I said.

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/doug_rogers doug_rogers

          "So, your justification for their situation is… ?"

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/s_c_f s_c_f

            I tried to answer that once, even though the question doesn't actually make sense.

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/doug_rogers doug_rogers

            What is your explanation for the current state of affairs in Haiti?

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/s_c_f s_c_f

            The lack of rule of law, the lack of civil institutions, the list goes on. There is a responsibility on the shoulders of all citizens of that country to do their part to contribute, rather than try to loot supermarkets and do vigilante justice. They should accept whatever engineering expertise they can muster from the US and elsewhere, regardless of colonial history. At the same time, they must have an eye towards avoiding dependance on other nations. They should demonstrate in the streets for proper democracy. They should all avoid violence at all costs.
            They need to have an eye to the future. Deforestation must end, it is causing erosion and destruction of resources. Education must be a priority.
            I'd say the most important priority is reducing violence, they must eliminate violence and they must all fight for the rule of law. Once that has been achieved, perhaps the country will become a place where investment can bear fruit. They must all fight to eliminate crime and violence.

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/doug_rogers doug_rogers

            \”The lack of rule of law, the lack of civil institutions,\”

            That's a good start.

  • captcold

    Yep. A totally convoluted and silly discourse, from Pat Robertson onward. Tar babies are traps, don't you know?

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/momar momar

    I don't get the Rex bashing. He is a brilliant man whose use the English language (like Conrad Black) is most entertaining and a rarity in todays grunting society. I love Rex's opinions they are usually are based in Logic and that too, is rare. Without people like Rex, we would be stuck with only the bland pedestrian commentary from the likes of Mr. Cosh. And Rex is right on the Global warming thing. The G&M couldn't even tolerate one person in their diminishing rag with an opposing opinion. Stalin and Mao would be proud of the Globe.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/DerekPearce DerekPearce

      Murphy does have an often entertaining way with words that can at times be a pleasure to read/hear. He also often uses his endearingly acrobatic language to make common-sense arguments. But by the same token he's often snarky for the sake of snark, and contrary for the sake of being a contrarian. Cosh pointing out Murphy's lame swipe at an unrelated 3rd party in this instance is not pedestrian, it's legitimate criticism of fault in an argument being made. And thanks for the Stalin/Mao hyperbole, we just can't get enough of that here in Macleans comments!

  • Sarattus

    Rev. Robinson may be shaky at 80 and a little hazy but to make him a harbinger of religion to come is patently arrogant and shamefully ignorant. Making a deal with the Devil (or evil) is certainly nothing new. Many of you respondents who profess atheism as a more virtuous path should remember your dark gods: Robespierre, Stalin, Hitler, and Mao. They slaughtered in orders of magnitude beyond any Christian you can name

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/DerekPearce DerekPearce

      Yes yes good argument, Christians have "only" slaughtered degrees lesser than atheist dictators, ergo they're righteous.

  • Bai

    Once again the atheists are putting words in people's mouths and spewing hate I find.

    http://www.cbn.com/about/pressrelease_patrobertso…
    Robertson’s compassion for the people of Haiti is clear. He called for prayer for them. His humanitarian arm has been working to help thousands of people in Haiti over the last year, and they are currently launching a major relief and recovery effort to help the victims of this disaster. They have sent a shipment of millions of dollars worth of medications that is now in Haiti, and their disaster team leaders are expected to arrive tomorrow and begin operations to ease the suffering.

    So have an of these big mouths donated more than $10?

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/john_g2708 john g

    OK, so that explains Robertson's stupid outburst.

    What is the explanation for <a href="http://www.zimbio.com/Danny+Glover/articles/2xGl-wtY7Od/Danny+Glover+Haiti+Earthquake+Due+Global+Warming">Danny Glover's?

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Crit_Reasoning Crit_Reasoning

    The explanation for Danny's outburst is pure ignorance. He reminds me of those people who claimed that the 2004 tsunami was caused by climate change (as opposed to a seismic event that originated hundreds of kilometers beneath the basaltic crust of the Indian Ocean.)

    Whenever something bad happens in the world, ignorant people will try to blame it on the usual suspects (God, AGW, the Americans), no matter how ridiculous.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/bananapatch bananapatch

    > OK, so that explains Robertson's stupid outburst. What is the explanation for Danny Glover's?

    Stupidity and a willingness to reveal it in front of microphones and cameras. Actually that kind of explains both of them.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/TJCook TJCook

    Yup. Such people can and should be ignored.

    Robertson, on the other hand, is a leader and as such, can't be ignored when he says something so breathtakingly ignorant and hateful.

  • Holly Stick

    I'm not sure if he is saying the earthquake was caused by global warming or talking about how we respond or need to respond to such events.

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