Colby Cosh

Colby Cosh

Colby Cosh

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No mere question of taste

by Colby Cosh on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 12:05pm - 113 Comments

I’m appalled that Gerry Byrne would consider invoking terror law to squash one of those practitioners of the sandbox-anarchist “political pieing” fad. But the man does have a point. Pieing is a form of “political activity” meant to achieve its aim, not through reason, but by means of coercion. It is meant to humiliate rather than convince, and to warn other politicians that they too may be humiliated. In other words, it’s a deliberate, if puerile, attempt to manipulate the political process by spreading fear.

And it’s not a wholly trivial fear, either. It has never occurred to the phony radical wankers who fling pies (or to those who dismiss them as cute pranksters) that a pie tin could conceivably contain poison or acid. But eventually some more earnest kook will figure it out, with the help of many dry runs by useful idiots. And when that day comes, the joke really will be over. This is a possibility that security officials and politicians already have to train for and rehearse mentally. I do hate it when people in public life put on airs about their personal sacrifices, but no one should dismiss the perceived danger of being in such a position until they’ve spent a week reading a politician’s mail, or a judge’s, or a celebrity’s. Vicarious sangfroid comes easily to the anonymous.

A pieing is not an argument; it is, indisputably, an assault with intent to intimidate. In this sense, it is obviously correct to describe pieing as a minor species of terrorism. From the standpoint of the relevant principle—i.e., the distinction between debate and violence—hitting a legislator with a pie is no different than beating one with a sack of doorknobs. Indeed, a lot of legislators would probably choose to be confronted with a species of assault that gave them a fair chance to fight back. A pieing doesn’t; it just makes a mess.

Which is why leftist Edible Ballot-type dorks like it. It’s a “statement” that allows for no answer—a pure display of the power to assert, along the lines of a tantrum from a toddler or a drunkard. I don’t have much time for Freud, but when you see a pie-er and recall what the doctor said about the anal-expulsive character, you can’t help thinking he may have been onto something.

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  • http://intensedebate.com/people/MaggiesFarmboy MaggiesFarmboy

    http://www.interior.gov/welcome.html

    Yes, they would. There would be several stories about it, some self flagellating pieces about how a single act can put the entire cross-border relationship in jeopardy, and many days after the event, Rex Murphy would devote a droning monologue to it.

    Then we would all forget about it and move on.

    The Canadian would be remembered in a Wikipedia entry, however.

  • LC Bennett

    The activists punishment should fit the crime. Make her feel as vulnerable and humiliated as the politician she attacked. In this case, bury Ms.PETA up to her chest in sand (vulnerable) and then pelt her with small chicken pot pies (humiliating).

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/A_logician A_logician

    Perhaps we have just another example of the serious deficiencies in our once-lauded national police force.

    • Lord Kitchener's Own

      Does the Minister of Fisheries and Oceans have an RCMP security detachment? Does she even have a single RCMP guard?

      I'm not certain the RCMP were even there.

  • wilson

    Criminal Harassment: Stalking

    Criminal harassment, more commonly known as STALKING, is a crime.
    Generally it consists of repeated conduct that is carried out over a period of time and which causes you to reasonably fear for your safety or the safety of someone known to you.
    Stalking does not have to result in physical injury in order to make it a crime. The law protects you even if the conduct of the stalker is not done with the intent to scare you. It is enough if the conduct does scare you. This may be an advance warning of the possibility of future violent acts….

    http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cp-pc/crimhar-eng.htm

  • wilson

    The pie hag was charged a short while ago for tabe dancing….well, tresspassing.
    It's her second offence,
    she is a stalker.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/TJCook TJCook

    Fair enough – I agree that it does meet the definition of assault. But as long as we're counting angels on pinheads, some people here did *dispute* whether it should even be considered assault, arguing that it also met the definition of political "speech". In other words, it meets the definition of assault but – some people here have argued – not the spirit of the law.

    So beyond nit-picking, any substantive comments? I think your take on this is overblown, and that defining pie-throwing as terrorism would be a greater offense to our society than the pie-throwing itself.

  • Doobsey

    In a country that had some pride and respect for itself and its government this person would have been beaten to within an inch of its life and then dealt with appropriately. This person is a coward and more than a little stupid as is the organization she represents. Nothing to be proud of here.

    • Mike T.

      No matter what we may think of Mr. Cosh, violence is wrong in and of itself, and will only make journalists of all stripes and calibres less likely to speak out.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Halo_Override Halo_Override

    It has never occurred to the phony radical wankers who fling pies (or to those who dismiss them as cute pranksters) that a pie tin could conceivably contain poison or acid.

    I don't see how this makes any sense. If I can get within pie-throwing distance of someone, I can seriously assault them in a dozen different ways, and I don't need a pie for any of them. It takes very little imagination to choose a weapon less likely to be detected and seized than a pie by whatever security attends these things.

    And "phony radical wankers"? I know it's a blog, but really?

    You wanna talk about Freud, there so much weirdly expressed energy in this column that I had to go back and double check I wasn't missing some sort of Modest Proposal kind of thing. I ask in the gentlest possible manner, did pie cause you a childhood trauma?

  • Bruce

    How about girls who flash you? Monica was applying her thonge'd force on poor Bill. And if this is allowed, guys will drop trou too.

  • scissorpaws

    PETA is currently caring for 26,000 "exotic" animals confiscated from an illegal importer, which include spiders and snakes and green frogs. They often help chickens and have campaigned for years to end the horrific deaths by blood thinners of such aesthetically pleasing animals as rats. Without PETA's undercover work we wouldn't know anything about the goings on in the livestock industry, the way Ringling Bros abuses baby elephants in "training" them. For all the talk of their being rich, they are a flea on the ass of the cattle, hog, poultry, fish and fur industries, to say nothing of the pet industries which continue to include puppy mills. We are damned lucky to have them and the Sea Shepherd and
    Greenpeace.
    Of course Canada could take the high road in this seal fiasco, offer to end the seal hunt if Japan quits butchering dolphins in Taiji (movie – The Cove), whales in the antarctic; China end the drift nets; and the Euros and whoever else is finishing off the Grand Banks offer a moratorium on all fishing including – in fact especially – the endangered the only warm blooded fish, the Atlantic Bluefin Tuna – etc. etc. But it's been awhile since we've taken the high road on anything or at least managed it with aplomb or competence. We all deserve a pie in the face.

  • SezMe

    As a resident in Gail Shea's riding (I live in Tignish, P.E.I.) I have to point out that Gail has gained enormous sympathy from folks here – even folks who did not vote for her!
    It seems that "getting pie'd" is a politically astute move.
    In light of that, were I a politician, I might look into hiring someone to "pie" me…..

  • http://www.premieretreeservices.com/ tree pruning

    I don't get it. Why would people even wanna do this?

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