Credibility is what’s really melting

Take the disappearing Himalayan glaciers.
Turns out that ‘research’ was idle speculation.

by Mark Steyn on Wednesday, February 3, 2010 11:50am - 390 Comments

Credibility is what’s really meltingWhenever I write about “climate change,” a week or two later there’s a flurry of letters whose general line is: la-la-la can’t hear you. Dan Gajewski of Ottawa provided a typical example in our Dec. 28 issue. I’d written about the East Anglia Climatic Research Unit’s efforts to “hide the decline,” and mentioned that Phil Jones, their head honcho, had now conceded what I’d been saying for years—that there has been no “global warming” since 1997. Tim Flannery, Australia’s numero uno warm-monger, subsequently confirmed this on Oz TV, although he never had before.

In response, Mr. Gajewski wrote to our Letters page: “Steyn’s column on climate change was one-sided, juvenile and inarticulate.”


Yes, yes, but what Steyn column isn’t? That’s just business as usual. A more pertinent question is: was any of it, you know, wrong?

Well, our reader didn’t want to get hung on footling details: “The disproportionate evidence supports the anthropogenic cause of global warming,” he concluded.

Yes, but how did the “evidence” get to be quite so “disproportionate”?

Take the Himalayan glaciers. They’re supposed to be entirely melted by 2035. The evidence is totally disproportionate, man. No wonder professor Orville Schell of Berkeley is so upset about it: “Lately, I’ve been studying the climate-change-induced melting of glaciers in the Greater Himalaya,” he wrote. “Understanding the cascading effects of the slow-motion downsizing of one of the planet’s most magnificent landforms has, to put it politely, left me dispirited.” I’ll say. Professor Schell continued: “If you focus on those Himalayan highlands, a deep sense of loss creeps over you—the kind that comes from contemplating the possible end of something once imagined as immovable, immutable, eternal . . .”

Poor chap. Still, you can’t blame him for being in the slough of despond. That magnificent landform is melting before his eyes like the illustration of the dripping ice cream cone that accompanied his eulogy for the fast vanishing glaciers. Everyone knows they’re gonna be gone in a generation. “The glaciers on the Himalayas are retreating,” said Lord Stern, former chief economist of the World Bank and author of the single most influential document on global warming. “We’re facing the risk of extreme runoff, with water running straight into the Bay of Bengal and taking a lot of topsoil with it. A few hundred square miles of the Himalayas are the source for all the major rivers of Asia—the Ganges, the Yellow River, the Yangtze—where three billion people live. That’s almost half the world’s population.” And NASA agrees, and so does the UN Environment Programme, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, and the World Wildlife Fund, and the respected magazine the New Scientist. The evidence is, like, way disproportionate.

But where did all these experts get the data from? Well, NASA’s assertion that Himalayan glaciers “may disappear altogether” by 2030 rests on one footnote, citing the IPCC’s Fourth Assessment Report from 2007.

In fact, the Fourth Assessment Report suggests 2035 as the likely arrival of Armageddon, but what’s half a decade between scaremongers? They rate the likelihood of the glaciers disappearing as “very high”—i.e., more than 90 per cent. And the IPCC was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for that report, so it must be kosher, right? Well, yes, its Himalayan claims rest on a 2005 World Wildlife Fund report called “An Overview of Glaciers.”

WWF? Aren’t they something to do with pandas and the Duke of Edinburgh? True. But they wouldn’t be saying this stuff if they hadn’t got the science nailed down, would they? The WWF report relies on an article published in the New Scientist in 1999 by Fred Pearce.

That’s it? One article from 12 years ago in a pop-science mag? Oh, but don’t worry, back in 1999 Fred did a quickie telephone interview with a chap called Syed Hasnain of Jawaharlal Nehru University in Delhi. And this Syed Hasnain cove presumably knows a thing or two about glaciers.

Well, yes. But he now says he was just idly “speculating”; he didn’t do any research or anything like that.

But so what? His musings were wafted upwards through the New Scientist to the World Wildlife Fund to the IPCC to a global fait accompli: the glaciers are disappearing. Everyone knows that. You’re not a denier, are you? India’s environment minister, Jairam Ramesh, says there was not “an iota of scientific evidence” to support the 2035 claim. Yet that proved no obstacle to its progress through the alarmist establishment. Dr. Murari Lal, the “scientist” who included the 2035 glacier apocalypse in the IPCC report, told Britain’s Mail on Sunday that he knew it wasn’t based on “peer-reviewed science” but “we thought we should put it in”—for political reasons.

I wonder what else is in that Nobel Peace Prize-winning report for no other reason than “we thought we should put it in.” Don’t forget, the IPCC’s sole source was the cuddly panda crowd over at the World Wildlife Fund. Donna Laframboise, a colleague of mine from the glory days at the National Post, did a simple search of the online version of the IPCC report and discovered dozens of citations of the WWF. It’s the sole source cited for doomsday predictions of glacier melt not only in the Himalayas but also the Andes and the Alps, as well as for a multitude of other topics, from coral reefs to avalanches. This would appear to be in breach of the IPCC’s own guidelines. The WWF is a pressure group. They’re not scientists. They’re not even numerate: one of their more startling glacier-melt claims derives entirely from an arithmetical miscalculation arising from a typing error.

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    Humans are tropical beings in any case, and for whatever problems are alleged (about 600 different issues are alleged from global warming per one web source who collects such) due to the putative .7 degree of warming over the last century, it seems the world would be a better off place with more carbon and more heat than without. In everything from disease management to agriculture, a warmer and more carboniferous world is a more productive one. Famine and disease are happening to Africa mostly because of frowsy African politics and a primitive medical and industrial infrastructure that allows such vectors to spread. Greenies worried about West Nile. Stop demonizing DDT. Warming would occur in other areas of the world as well, and yet the First World decided long ago it was not going to go the full monty on "back to nature." The Third World has had plenty of that, in some rather unhygenic ways, for some time now. They're getting tired of it. Disease is a medical management issue, not primarily a climatic one. And a warmer world would have the tradeoff of a world less plagued by the cold weather killers like the seasonal flu.

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  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Wakefield Wakefield Tolbert

    Humans are tropical beings in any case, and for whatever problems are alleged (about 600 different issues are alleged from global warming per one web source who collects such) due to the putative .7 degree of warming over the last century, it seems the world would be a better off place with more carbon and more heat than without. In everything from disease management to agriculture, a warmer and more carboniferous world is a more productive one. Famine and disease are happening to Africa mostly because of frowsy African politics and a primitive medical and industrial infrastructure that allows such vectors to spread. Greenies worried about West Nile. Stop demonizing DDT. Warming would occur in other areas of the world as well, and yet the First World decided long ago it was not going to go the full monty on "back to nature." The Third World has had plenty of that, in some rather unhygenic ways, for some time now. They're getting tired of it. Disease is a medical management issue, not primarily a climatic one. And a warmer world would have the tradeoff of a world less plagued by the cold weather killers like the seasonal flu.

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    Course, you could have a very DENSE atmosphere that is "thicker" than the one we have currently, only you'd have to compress it. But if Venus' atmosphere is denser and about the same distance from ionesphere to surface as Earth's, then obviously you have more mass as well. With that size of an atmosphere by volume being such a long travel time to the surface, it's not just a matter of extreme compression. You have more STUFF to work with.

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      I repeat: greenhouses are not pressurized. Pressure is not a requirement for a greenhouse effect.

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      • http://intensedebate.com/people/Wakefield Wakefield Tolbert

        I see now where you were going.

        OK. Agreed on it's more the component affected and how it reacts, than pressue.

        OK.

        I should have used the term "MASS" to indicate the amount of material that is so much more than earth's comparitively thin atmosphere…

        Truly C02 traps heat, but then do does oxygen, so the issue is that it does this somewhat more efficiently, and water vapor due to H20's specific heat beats them both, etc. As do some other gases.

        I was merely pointing out that CO2 alone is not the core reason Venus is more of a hellhole than it's distance from the Sun would indicate.

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    I have one problem with all of this warming debate; how on earth is it possible that the entire highly complex climate system on earth can be controlled and leveraged by a change of a few hundred parts per million of one molecule?

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    Bart, we live in the troposphere, you know. The troposphere is the lowest part of the atmosphere. UAH data measures average temperatures from the surface up to 135,000 feet. http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutemps/ . The troposphere extends up to between 4 and 12 miles, depending on how close the the equator you are. Anyway, your point is well taken. What people care about is surface temps. But surface temps are hard to measure accurately, and UAH provides an accurate and comprehensive measurement of temps from the surface up to 135,000 feet. And surface temp data, for all its flaws, does track UAH data. My point is that skeptics should be as judicious in coming to conclusions as the AGW folks have been injudicious. The jury is still out.

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    Climate science is in its infancy and at this point relies very heavily on computer models that aren't much better than crystal balls were for predicting the future.

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    rbudin said: "The global temperature anomaly for January 2010 was 0.72 deg C, making it the hottest January over the 30 years for which we have UAH data". That is tropospheric temperature, not ground temperature. It's been an unusually cold January in the Northern Hemisphere down here. And, everyone knows the high temperature tropospheric reading is the result of the temporary phenomenon of El Nino, and the portents are that it will come crashing down presently.

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