What the Danny Williams' case says about Canadian health care

Both sides of the border are squawking about the premier’s trip to the U.S. for treatment

by John Geddes with Cathy Gulli and Tom Henheffer on Tuesday, February 9, 2010 2:03pm - 63 Comments

No sooner did news break that Danny Williams had flown south to the United States for treatment of an undisclosed heart condition than the chronic debate about the state of Canadian health care went critical. Opponents of universal insurance—both in Canada and the U.S.—pounced on his trip as a told-you-so moment. The populist Newfoundland premier has, after all, been an ardent defender of the public system. Campaigning during the 2008 federal election to keep Stephen Harper from winning seats in his province, he warned Newfoundland voters that a majority Harper government would threaten Canada Health Act tenets like universality, public administration and accessibility. “Nothing would be safe, quite frankly,” Williams said, “when it comes to going after sacrosanct principles.”

Those principles don’t say anything—at least, not exactly—that conflicts with the right of a 60-year-old Canadian millionaire-politician to check himself into an expensive American clinic for cardiac care. And Newfoundlanders, by and large, saw it that way, leaping to Williams’ defence through talk radio, Facebook get-well messages, and letters to the editor. Some went so far as to say that what’s good for Danny’s heart is good for Newfoundland and Labrador. “I think he’s looking after his health and his best interests,” said Dean MacDonald, a St. John’s venture capitalist and old friend of the premier. “And clearly his best interests are the province’s best interests.”

Off the island, however, such stalwart declarations of support gave way to conflicting claims. Critics of public health insurance seized on this latest case of high-profile medical tourism as proof the Canadian way must be second rate—and no model for America. “This should be a wake-up call to Congress and the administration,” said a Fox News medical commentator. “It is a fact beyond dispute that the United States remains the global destination for patients from all over the world.” Canadian conservatives pounced, too. “It’s symbolic,” said Brett Skinner, president of Vancouver’s Fraser Institute. “These services are not available at all or not available on a timely basis here in Canada.”

That seemed like a reasonable conclusion to draw. Why else would Williams wing off to the U.S.? However, a chorus of Canadian physicians said they were at a loss to think of any heart surgeries, beyond rare and exotic procedures, done in the U.S. that aren’t readily available at Canadian institutes, although often not in Newfoundland. Dr. Bryce Taylor, surgeon-in-chief at Toronto’s prestigious University Health Network, said Ontario’s heart centres offer the latest techniques with virtually no waiting lists, unless a patient insists on a particular famous surgeon. Taylor was annoyed by pundits who assumed Williams went south to get some better procedure faster. “They were impugning our ability to give patients good access,” he said.

There are, of course, differences between what’s on offer on either side of the border. For example, Taylor said some wealthy patients are enticed to U.S. medical “boutiques” that advertise surgery with very small incisions and sometimes robotic equipment. But those innovations are not proven, he added, to be better for the patient. Doctors in both Canada and the U.S. are divided on them. Another difference is the deluxe service offered, for a price, by some famous U.S. hospitals, such as the highly ranked Cleveland Clinic. “It is true that the Cleveland Clinic has so-called concierge treatment,” Taylor said. “They will meet visitors at the airport in limos. I suppose that might be very seductive.”

Canadian hospitals can’t match expensive U.S. clinics when it comes to upscale amenities. Keeping pace on cutting-edge procedures is another matter. When it comes to repairing heart valves, for instance, specialists in Ontario, like virtuoso surgeon Dr. Tirone David, Toronto General Hospital’s head of cardiovascular surgery, are internationally renowned. Why don’t sick American millionaires come north for such surgeries then? Actually, they often ask to, but are usually turned down. The reason: since 2004 Canadian physicians and hospitals have generally not been insured if malpractice suits are brought against them following elective surgeries in U.S. courts, where judgements can be huge.

No matter how many eminent physicians leapt to the defence of Canadian heart specialists, news of Williams’ decision left a lot of Canadians with the impression cardiac care must be better in the U.S. Dr. Jack Tu, senior scientist at Toronto’s Institute for Clinical Evaluative Sciences, has researched outcomes for heart patients in the two countries. Despite famously contrasting health insurance systems, Tu said there’s little difference. But in a recent, unpublished comparison, he found Canada seems to do somewhat better when it comes to patients having to be readmitted to hospital after being discharged following treatment for heart failure. In the U.S., about a quarter end up back in hospital within a month; in Canada, it’s about one-fifth.

Tu suspects pressure to keep hospital bills down means U.S. patients are more likely to be discharged a bit too soon. “In Canada, hospitals are on a global budget,” he observed. “We don’t have insurance companies bugging doctors to send people home quickly.” In fact, the issue of readmissions has prompted the American College of Cardiology and the U.S. Institute for Healthcare Improvement to launch a program called Hospital to Home, in a bid to find ways to lower that troubling readmission rate. Even the elite U.S. hospitals are seized by the issue. Last year, the Cleveland Clinic appointed a task force to study the problem. Broadly speaking, Tu said American hospitals tend to have the edge in technology and intensive care facilities, but Canada’s health system is better at caring for patients over longer periods, including after they leave hospital, and in making sure they get the prescription drugs they need.

Such distinctions in strong and weak points between the two countries didn’t figure in the Williams uproar. It came down to one rich guy’s ability to exit the system he had insistently championed. “If he wants to buy 20-year-old Scotch, I don’t have an issue with it. If he wants to spend his money on his health, I have no issue with it,” said Dr. David Gratzer, a Toronto physician and critic of the Canadian health system. “My issue is with his hypocrisy. My issue is that he says, ‘This is good enough for you, but if I run into trouble I’m taking my jet to Boston or Cleveland.’ ”

Nobody keeps track of how many well-off Canadians pay out of their own pockets for American care. Occasionally provincial health plans pay for U.S. care for ordinary people when services aren’t readily available at home. Provinces spent $1.14 million on U.S. care in 2007-08—less than 0.001 per cent of total health spending. But that’s no more precise an indicator of shortcomings in the Canadian system than Williams’ trip is. Dr. Lorne Bellan, chair of the Wait Times Alliance, an organization of Canadian doctors aimed at speeding up access to treatment, said those problems are serious, complex, and likely to get worse as the population ages.

According to Bellan, provinces made quick progress after Paul Martin’s short-lived Liberal government cut a deal with them in 2004 to funnel $5.5 billion over 10 years into cutting wait times. Queues for cataract surgery, joint replacements and other high-demand procedures shrank fast. Then the Conservatives won election in 2006 on a promise of bringing in wait time “guarantees.” In 2007, each province signed on to deliver one health service, from radiation therapy to bypass surgery, within a guaranteed period. But Bellan said these were token gestures in areas where the waits were already reasonably short. Real progress stalled as politicians shifted to focusing on issues like climate change and the economy.

At least, until the Danny Williams story. “It’s brought to light again this question of what our system is able to provide in Canada,” Bellan said. “It allows us to point out again that there is unfinished business.” Among the persistent problems, he said: shortages of MRI machines and nerve-wracking waits for surgery for serious but non-life-threatening conditions.

Officials in Williams’ office said his surgery was done on Feb. 4 and he was released from intensive care the next day. He is expected to say more about where he went and why when he comes home within a couple of weeks. Whatever his personal story turns out to be, if those details spark only another round of crude claims about complicated issues, the episode won’t have done nothing to move the Canadian health care debate forward.

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  • Brockvillian

    As long as the wealthy and powerful can buy or elbow their way to the head of the health care line in Canada or elsewhere, they will have less incentive to shorten the line here. This is the reason why we should never have an "official" two tier health care system in Canada and also why the partial two tier system, that unofficially exists here now, should be eliminated. Only then will Williams and the many others like him really commit themselves to building a better health care system for all Canadians.

    • wayne moores

      But you miss the point. Danny Williams did not push himself to the head of any line in Canada. He went outside the country to get Rolls Royce healthcare at his own expense. He is a self made millionaire, it's his money he can do as he wishes with it. He does not even collect his salary as Premier. All he did in reality was free up an operating room in Canada for the rest of we non-millionaire types. Cheers

  • Watawyno

    Canadians should not give up any sleep for the new crop of critics the Danny Williams case is going to produce. If Americans want to have an honest discussion about hospital care, fine, lets go. But truth is they don't because most, not all, are clueless and the pop-news isn't going to help them. They need to put some things on the table.

    Americans already have a socialized tax funded system- if you're lucky enough to work for the government or public agency. From senator to janitor, they're covered, courtesy of joe blow with a hoe. Any surprise the politicians won't talk about it?

    Health and insurance are not compatible. A health maintenance system can be funded but not insured. People are not standard commodities, some are born healthier than others. And we all get old and we're all going to get sick at some point- it's a certainty. Depending on the odds, insurance principles and pricing can only be applied to events that may or may not happen. Strictly speaking, if you left it up to the free market then only the healthiest people could buy insurance and even they could expect to be cut loose at some point after they get seriously ill. An insurance plan of any sort seeks to maximize premiums, minimize payouts and minimize risks. That's simply the nature of the beast.

    Americans have the best medical R&D and product development by far. They have one of the most inefficient health services delivery systems. The two are not connected. If the delivery of services changes tomorrow, are the big medical technology companies going to stop marketing their products around the world to the detriment of their stakeholders?

    Does anyone think American manufacturers are net beneficiaries of the expense of having to buy health insurance for workers? They avoid all that (and obviously other things) by simply moving plants offshore. And for the average worker and family it all comes down to being employed. Health is just another group plan that can disappear anytime.

  • http://www.quadibloc.com/ John Savard

    The article didn't even mention the Canada Health Act once, which limits queue-jumping to the very rich, instead of allowing middle-class Canadians to be free to spend extra on their health if they choose. It is the Canada Health Act, which resulted from the Federal government choosing to abandon proper support of Canada's public health system, and not any preference on the part of most Canadains for the U.S. model over our own, that has led to the intense debate.

  • gerry

    I don't care if Danny Williams went to the US for heart surgery, or to be treated for a social disease. Strictly his business.

  • Saskatchewanborn

    I have lived in England for over 40 years and I believe that my father, who had his first heart attack at 51and is still alive at 91, would not be still with us if it were not for the good care he has received in Canada, especially in Saskatchewan. In particular the triple bypass he received at aged 74 he would have had to wait for much longer in England. I actually booked a flight over when he told me he had to the have the operation and you certainly couldn't do that here. Part of the problem here, of course, is that we have a much higher population, and therefore much greater demand.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/straittohell straittohell

    Silly people. Doctor's aren't employed by the government. Ultrasound clinics are not all publicly run. Those two services and many others are privately delivered and publicly paid. To echo the comments of many others, we have public health insurance, and thank goodness for that. I am in favour of NOT mortgaging my house to save the life of myself or my family members. All of the talk of quality and wait times quickly turns into a shell game used by private interests to lead us down the garden path. To say that either system is superior to the other is an over-simplified argument. The bottom line is that we either pay for our health care through taxes or insurance… the latter option just ends up costing more. My vote is to stay with our current, imperfect system.

  • Rob

    Our system here in Canada has worked well for me so far. But, I can show you three people I knew personally who died while on the waiting list for Bypass Surgery over the last 21 years. If I was Danny Williams I am sure I would have done the same thing. Our Health Care System is good, but I think we all know it needs fixing in many areas!

    • Derek

      Don't tell about how good the health care system is in Canada. I used to live in US where I had a health insurance which covered any treatment in any hospital in the USA. I moved back to Canada and two months ago I was brought to the Edmonton UNiversity Hospital by an ambulance with symptoms of stoke and then I was left for 4 hours sitting in a waiting room, during that time my whole left side was paralized but I couldn't even complain because there was no one there. In the hospital I was told that my stroke was a hart defect related: I have been waiting to see a cardiologist for the last two months. For me moving back to Canada was the worst thing I have ever done which may cost me my life.

  • Fred – Brandon MB

    This story tells us more about Danny Williams than about Canadian Health care.

    I have no respect whatsoever for the man.

  • David, Halifax

    Danny Williams finally breaks his silence on his medical procedure today and admits, as we all suspected, that it was a simple matter of a wealthy individual deciding he can use his money to get the health care he decides is best for him. That's his right. Unfortunately, unless you have the money to head to the states, that is a right that is denied to each and every Canadian who is forced to live within Canada's compulsory Stalinist health care system. We do not have to sacrifice universal health care coverage for the ability of Canadians to access private health care in Canada, instead of spending those dollars stateside. A private health care system should be permitted to operate parallel to the public system. Those who want to spend some extra money to get their families what they feel is better health care should be permitted to do so. Those who don't can access the public system. It's no different than public vs. private education. As it now stands, the wealthy have a two-tier health care system while the middle class are condemned to wallow in the mediocrity of the public system.

  • Joel

    Woulden't spending your time increasing the amount of residency seats in the hospital and medical school spots in universities be more efficient? If our porlbem is simply shortage, why not fix it instead of helping people run around it?

  • Sandy

    I am with you Brockvillian and I don't care what this guy does with his money or his time as long as he is not speaking for working class Canadians. He has no place in office get him out. Let him go to the South of France and spend his time with the elite who are above the masses. Who does he think he represents?

  • Derek

    Two months ago I had a stroke at the age of 43 and was told by a nurse practittioner who discharged me from the hospital that it was hart defect related. I have been waiting since then to see a cardiologist at the Mazankowski institute in Edmonton.

  • thenonconformer

    adequate Treatment for Canada’s failing health system firstly is criminal prosecution and jail for the bad doctors, bad nurses for failing to help the sick people adequately and having enforced, Real management, supervision of doctors, nurses, medical and hospital workers. It is still a criminal act now for any doctor, nurse, hospital administrators, medical supervisor not to provide medical care to any seniors. How many have been prosecuted for this in the last year? All Canadians are not getting value for their tax money placed in the health-care system and the health-care system needs to be “massively transformed,” as the underlying principles of the Canada Health Act ” which include universality and accessibility ” are not being met since they are not enforced by the federal or provincial governments. ”Our system of publicly funded health care is founded on the promise that all Canadians will receive needed medical care when and where they need it. Far too often the promise falls short,” Especially with its shortcomings, the present system will not be able to meet future needs. http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/08/03/t…

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Gaunilon Gaunilon

    Pretty balanced article. As the interviewed doctor put it: no one has a problem with Williams buying whatever he feels like buying. The problem is reconciling his actions with his past statements. If he needed to go stateside for this surgery, then why is the Canadian system unable to provide it?

    One thing seems indisputable to me the debate about whether to have a two-tier system in Canada is over. We have one. The rich can fly to the US for services they can't easily get here. The only yet-to-be-determined feature is whether this higher tier should be provided in Canada as well, or whether we'd rather leave it to the US medical system. There are good arguments on both sides of this question. I wish Geddes had delved into it.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Gaunilon Gaunilon

    I see your arguments, and raise you a few from the other side:

    - doctors in the private practices will make more, thus siphoning the best away from the public system
    - there will be fewer doctors in the public system, thus worsening wait times and shortages even compared to the current situation
    - although a two-tier system does currently exist, at least we have the moral satisfaction of being able to say that in Canada all patients are (at least in principle) treated equally

    This is not an easy issue – there are serious considerations on either side.

  • Tom Mays

    The thing is,if the US gets rid of it`s heatlth care system and replaces it with ours,where will people fly for healthcare?.How about the government allow private hospitals?Why should foreigners be paid our money for surgery when we can put private care here?This should be a choice,those who love the public system should line up and fund it themselves.Those who want private care can line up,take out insurance and fund that too.How about that?People want a choose the food they eat,the television cahnnels to watch,the cable company they want,the phone company they want,but when it comes to healthcare,you have the government declaring that it should be the only one doing this,they are so proud of it,they never use it themselves.

  • Tom Mays

    Of copurse,doctors in rpivate practice would make more,the private sector pays more and they put clients first and do thinsgs efficiently and quickly
    kly.It`s all about sevice and they always want people to refer other people to them.People would opt to go to the private system for urgent care of they know they have to put up with wait times.If it`s introduced,all these people would use it because you won`t have to wait.The private sector knows how to do things better.So no wonder doctors would leave,people will always move on somewhere if they are offered more money and less of a workload and a more consisntent schedule.I am sure all these workers wouldn`t mind having it because they already get health benefits from employers.The public system already has shortages and braindrain,if you must know.

  • Joel

    Are you seriously trying to say that dealing with mutliple insureres is mroe efficeint and quicker?

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