Putting out the truth about Israel

A few scholars giving papers on terrorism don’t equal annual weeks of hate-in against Israel and its people

by Barbara Amiel on Thursday, April 8, 2010 12:20pm - 122 Comments

In contrast, those Jewish students who have ideas on how to counter IAW lack funding and organization. The mainstream Jewish organizations such as the United Jewish Appeal and B’Nai Brith allegedly won’t back a confrontational campaign. They finance campus efforts like Hillel House. What’s lacking is a united Jewish community that can sit down at the table like the CAIA with one goal: put out the truth about Israel. Given this lack, plus the legendary diversity of opinion among Jews, it’s easy to see how absolutely nothing gets done and the virus spreads.

What should university administrators do? Free speech is a right, but to effect it is a responsibility. The role of the university is not to organize opposition to any cause but to make it loud and clear that it will support and defend equally any group that wishes to counter a cause, whether it is Israeli Apartheid Week or global warming. Encourage dialogue, in other words, rather than protect the monologue of the intense and violent, under the pretext of providing “safe environment” or avoiding “polarizing.”

It won’t do to point to apples when critics say no oranges are being served. A few scholars giving papers on terrorism don’t equal annual weeks of hate-in against a country and its people. So far, I’m not eating any hat.

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  • Trim

    I see nothing but suppressed anger in your rant. any one who is reasonably educated and knows the history will never support Israel . Because Israel is nation based on religion, sustained by constant bloodshed , defended by American money and weaponry and of course American ignorance. Canada is not far behind, students are taught here to consider Israel a holy country and everything Israel does is right.(after all Hitler was not very nice to them) all human rights abuses must be accepted and condoned in the name of Holocaust . I see your frustration about Jews not being united . I think there is a great but silent majority of Jews who do not support Human rights abuse, they are better educated than fanatics like the writer of this rant who is a fan of Anne Coulter ,(it shows your level of intellect) I am sure you will jump on one leg calling me Anti semite but I have a lot of respect for the majority of Jews who are good, and do not support war crimes , no matter who commits those crime and who supports them. One of the reader commented about not knowing much about the issue.
    Please read Norman Finklestein" Holocaust industry" and also Robert Fisk . they are respectable names one of them is Jewish scholar himself . University students are better educated , that is why they do not support Israel. If people really educate themselves on the issue they will never support Israel.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/A_READER_ A_READER_

    Finkelstein and Fisk? As sources of unbiased opinion?
    OMG!
    Just like Juan Cole is an 'expert' on the ME?

    Just more sources of "hate those joooos" propaganda ….What garbage and lies feeble minds will suck up, sad.

    IF the Pali's want a decent life,
    THEN they should live a decent life.

    They firggin brainwash their toddlers with hate the JEWS cartoons daily, it's taught in schools and have family picture with their baby boys wearing grenades as necklaces on them…or standing beside an AK16 or whatever automatic weapon.

    When the Palis love life and their children more than they hate the Jews then maybe there will be peace on this earth … but not holding my breath on that one…those palis sure love and live to hate the Jews and infidels/kafirs – been doing it for 60 years.

    Why won't Jordan or Egypt open their borders to Palis?
    Instead they have walls…very high walls.

    • Antidote

      Did it ever occur to you, in your hateful one-sidedness, that neighboring Arab countries keep the Palestinians out because if they didn't, it would solve the problem (who wants to live under the conditions offered to Palestinians under Israeli occupation?) by giving Israel what it wants: all of Palestine?

      • hockeyfan18

        Did it ever occur to you that because Yasser Arafat and the PLO supported Saddam Hussein's invasion and occupation of Kuwait in 1990, that led to the 400,000 Palestinians in Kuwait being expelled by Kuwait's government after the war? Of course, when Arab states carry out atrocities against Palestinians, the anti-Israel crowd just shrugs and turns a blind eye. Not to mention what the Jordanian army did to the Palestinians in the 1970's during Black September, murdering them in Jordan in brutal attacks.

        But hey, when the Arabs treat the Palestinians poorly, let's just ignore it.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/A_READER_ A_READER_

    So university education makes you smarter than the rest of the whole world and in order to hate the Jews like you do I only need to attend university?

    Nice snobbery there bud. What is this elitist university you hail from that teaches you that you are better and smarter than anybody else?

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/SamDavies SamDavies

      I think you're scoring pretty high on the hatred scale already. University would likely diminish this, and I'm sure you would never want that. Fight the good fight Rambo….

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/A_READER_ A_READER_

        Aww don't you worry 'bout me dear, my univerisity days are over, but I at least received a great education not the propaganda that you lot swallow today.

  • britt

    people just don't get it. it's as simple as that. ignorant of even their own ignorance, including this halfwit, Barbara Amiel.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/A_READER_ A_READER_

      Pot meet kettle.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/SamDavies SamDavies

        You've met Barbara Amiel? What's she like? Did you ask her how her husband is doing?

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/A_READER_ A_READER_

          WTF are you going on about now?

  • britt

    and you, whoever you are A_READER. you have no idea what youre talking about.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/A_READER_ A_READER_

      ….you have no idea what youre[sic] talking about.

      Prove it.

  • Antidote
  • Orest Slepokura

    If Israel is an apartheid state, then it follows it must include Jewish analogues to Eugene Terre Blanche, i.e., not white but Jewish supremacists within its present and past leadership pantheon, given to venting gratuitous gusts of loathing toward the land's indigenous people. Certainly, its current foreign minister, one Avigdor Lieberman has mused of drowning bus loads of Arabs in the Dead Sea. Rafael Eytan, the former Israeli chief of staff, had described Palestinians as "cockroaches in a bottle". Israel Prime Minister Menachem Begin called the Palestinians "two-legged beasts". Rabbi Ovdia Yousef, the spiritual head of the Israel's Shas Party, called them "serpents". Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak called them "crocodiles". Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir referred to them as "grasshoppers." When the Israeli statesman Abba Eban reflected on the above, he was moved to deplore what he described as his co-religionists' "rhetoric of extermination."

  • MacLean's Regular

    Look, they can't get rid of Amiel. She's knows where all the bodies are buried.

    Just nod and smile and say "It's nice that you're still so active at your age, dear."

    • ColdStanding

      ouch!

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/SamDavies SamDavies

      Zing!

      • Antidote

        Agist. Some people do get wiser as they get older.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/A_READER_ A_READER_

      Oh look!
      A digital circle jerk!
      ROFLMAO!!!

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Diogenes54 Diogenes54

    Beauty!

  • Antidote

    More ugly truths about Israel – forced deportation is next move in effort to cleanse Israel and occupied territories of non-Jews:
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middl…

    Meanwhile, Netanyahu pulls the H- and I-cards to deflect criticism, and some will no doubt fall for it and call it 'pro-Israel'
    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1162215.html

    How sad! How frightening! How utterly insane! Let's forget the pointless peace process and start WW III! Justify killing millions and dying by the millions for the racist Jewish state , or risk being defamed as anti-semitic

  • Home412AD

    To any sane person, it seems incredible that anyone would try to defend the Jews occupying Palestine. No one can defend the indefensible, or forgive the unforgivable. The Jew occupation of Palestine is a monstrous crime against humanity, and every rational person in the world knows it. Only a psychopath would try to deny the self-evident facts.

  • ColdStanding

    MacLeans editors:
    As a subscriber, here is what I want:
    You went to bat for M. Steyn when he got into a pickle with the HRC to defend your press freedom. Now, I want you to put that freedom to the test and do an indepth expose of the deployment of parties, for and against, on the Israel/Palestine question as they exist here in Canada. Nobody's precious sensitivities should be spared. I also want editorials, more specifially guest editorialist as your usual cast have made their position well known, justifying or condemning Canada's current policies on the question.

  • Antidote

    Agree. Could the editors of MacLean please inform us why 'undconditional support' for Israel is the official and carefully guarded Canadian position? Here are the latest top news stories from Israel:

    – Events for Holocaust Martyrs and Heroes Day will begin Sunday evening with an official ceremony in Yad Vashem, in the presence of Israeli President Shimon Peres, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

    – A new military order aimed at preventing infiltration will come into force this week, enabling the deportation of tens of thousands of Palestinians from the West Bank, or their indictment on charges carrying prison terms of up to seven years.

    – Former Israeli prime minister Ehud Olmert denied Saturday that he was connected in any way to the Holyland project scandal that was revealed last week by the police.

    – The Obama administration on Friday rejected media reports that the U.S. had implemented a new policy denying visas to Israeli scientists connected to the Dimona nuclear reactor.

    (Source: iStockAnalyst )

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/RobinBC RobinBC

    The issue is that Islam will never accept creation of a non Muslim state in an area conquered by Islam.
    Notwithstanding that only the Jews have inhabited Israel (which existed as a nation in Biblical times until conquered by Rome) and Jerusalem (Israel's capital) for over 2500 years. Israel is the source of Jewish religious and ethnic identity. Israel has been occupied or ruled by others such as the Romans, the Arabs, the Turks and the British, but has always had a Jewish population, no matter how subjugated, throughout recorded history. Islam was imposed by war on the peoples of the area by the Arab Muslims just over 1200 years ago. There was never a Palestinian state or national identity. The conflict is about Islam not about "Palestine" or "Palestinians" who have never had a country or a distinct society.

    • Antidote

      The issue is that Zionism will never accept creation of a non-Jewish state in an area conquered by Zionism. The nation state is a relatively modern idea, Zionism an even more recent idea, and Judaism and Zionism are not identical at all. Explain Anti-Zionism among Jews if Israel 'is the source of Jewish religious and ethnic identity'? The nation state is an obsolete idea forged on the religion of 'blood and soil', in Israel and elsewhere. The Holy Land is holy to all three Abrahmic religions: Judaism, Christianity, Islam. It is completely irrelevant whether the Palestinians ever had a country or distinct society. They have lived in Palestine for centuries, and they cannot be expelled or treated like UNTERMENSCHEN.

      here is an excerpt from a letter to the NY Times (1948), signed by Einstein, Arendt and other prominent Jews:

      TO THE EDITORS OF THE NEW YORK TIMES:

      "Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the ""Freedom Party"" (Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties. It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine.

      The current visit of Menachem Begin, leader of this party, to the United States is obviously calculated to give the impression of American support for his party in the coming Israeli elections, and to cement political ties with conservative Zionist elements in the United States. Several Americans of national repute have lent their names to welcome his visit. It is inconceivable that those who oppose fascism throughout the world, if correctly informed as to Mr. Begin’s political record and perspectives, could add their names and support to the movement he represents.

      Before irreparable damage is done by way of financial contributions, public manifestations in Begin’’s behalf, and the creation in Palestine of the impression that a large segment of America supports Fascist elements in Israel, the American public must be informed as to the record and objectives of Mr. Begin and his movement."

  • Karin

    Ani-Semitism charges as 'pitiful affectation'?
    Fromhttp://www.pogrom.org.il:

    "Israeli authorities and the Jewish Agency have been misinforming world Jewry by stating that in the State of Israel Jews can find refuge from anti-Semitism. Reports of anti-Semitic acts have turned into a regular feature in Israeli newspapers, mainly Russian-language ones. The movement “Dmir – Assistance in Absorption” has carried out an investigation of the problem and found that the scourge of anti-Semitism had penetrated the society fabric much deeper than predicted in most grim estimates. Many new immigrants have found to their horror that they encounter here in Israel the same abuses and humiliation of anti-Semitic nature on the part of non-Jews who had come together with them from the former USSR, which they hoped to be protected from in Israel. The stories related by the victims and eye-witnesses, as well as in newspaper reports, have been presented in a report on the situation in that sphere. We have repeatedly appealed to various government leaders and MKs, but received no reply. The official Israel does not dare to react to the problem. Against that background, all statements of Israeli leaders condemning anti-Semitic acts in other countries appear as pitiful affectation.

    Meanwhile, the phantasmagoria is continuing, and the number of victims of anti-Semitic acts is growing continuously. While the Israeli establishment and our politicians are hushing up the facts of anti-Semitism in Israel, a group of victims and activists has decided to create a center to support the victims of anti-Semitism in Israel."

  • MBToday

    Look everyone is getting tired of this debate but it seems to me that to have any semblance of peace two big things must happen 1. Israel withdraws to its 1967 borders 2 The Palestinians must recognize Israel which presuppose that they would have their one state.

  • rachel cohen

    People who question the miltary policies of Isreal are not anti-semetic. The who world is horrified to see the excessive human rights abuses perpetrated by elements of the Isreali and Palisinian governements. The secret is, our governments don't want peace. The military-inductrial complex benifits from a fearful apathetic poorly informed electorate. I am afraid once the Isreali government with help from the international community exterminates the Palistinians, they will begin to divide and enslave the ireali people themselves. God help us all. Please inform yourselves. Please stop participating in hateful fearful talk. Just talk, fear and let it happen. People like Anne Coultier, make up and twist all facts. She calls secular or non-religious people baby killers. As if people who love nature, practice there own spirituallity are baby killers.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/A_READER_ A_READER_

      You can't even spell Israel correctly and you lecture on whom we are to listen to?

  • Marie

    The details of these disagreements are not really important. What is important is that the anger and hatred stop. Those are the only things that keep the middle east in turmoil. If all of those negative destructive emotions would go away, the rest would be easy to resolve. It's difficult to disolve the hatred when so many people insist on being in a war. Fighting can continue forever. There has to come a point where enough people realize that no one is winning; the only result is more of the same. Horror and bloodshed and children and families forever damaged … and what was it way back when that started this?

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/A_READER_ A_READER_

      Duh, the same thing it is today as it was 60 some odd years ago, or are you not paying attention because the details are not important to you?
      Some surrounding Arab countries( and some from further afar) want to see Israelis dead and Israel wants to stop that – simple see?

      • Marie

        Somehow I think you missed my point.

  • carlos

    You can take Barbara out of Hamilton but not Hamilton out of Barbara. Read HAARETZ once in a while Frau Goebbels.

  • Anne

    Too much attention and power is given to a small settlement in the middle east called "Is Ra El" All these comments on the article proves it. What is so darn "special" about these people? I see nothing. They have been warring since the creation of this Zionist nation. All wars set the premise for changes in laws that would otherwise never be passed. We should be tired of all of this or fed up.

  • barry

    during world war 2, people chose a side. i actually empathize with imperial era germany , whose mistreatment by france and england, led to the deathcult of fascism(including japan). the allies did some bad things (tho the soviets went to horrific extremes). i don't see the leftard unions complaining that we shouldn't have stood against fascism because the west didn't play by every rule. regardless of isreali/palestinian conflicts, a glance back in middle eastern history shows christianity and judaism being there over 7 centuries before islam even existed.the only valid choice is between jews or christian arabs on who should be governing the area. muslims should all go back to where their death cult was spread from; saudi arabia

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