“Legal obligations”

by Andrew Coyne on Saturday, May 1, 2010 1:11am - 248 Comments

Day three after the Ruling that Saved Our System of Government, and the Tories have achieved their initial objective: total strategic confusion. Is Stephen Harper now prepared to accept opposition demands that a parliamentary committee be given access to the documents in the Afghan detainees affair? Or is he digging in his heels, as unwilling to compromise as ever?

I don’t know. But a clue to the Prime Minister’s state of mind can be found in his repeated invocation of the government’s “legal obligations.” Responding to questions in the House Wednesday, Harper said, variously:

Mr. Speaker, as I have said, we look forward to both complying with your ruling and with the legal obligations that have been established by statutes passed by this Parliament.

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The government has certain obligations that are established under statutes passed by this Parliament. We obviously want to proceed in a way that will respect both of those things, and of course we will be open to any reasonable suggestions to achieve those two objectives.

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You have delivered a decision. Obviously, the government seeks to respect that decision. At the same time, it seeks to respect its obligations established by statute and passed by this Parliament.

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The government seeks at all times to respect all of its obligations. To the extent that some of those obligations may be in conflict, there are reasonable ways to accommodate that and we are open to reasonable suggestions in that regard.

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The government cannot break the law, it cannot order public servants to break the law, nor can it do anything that would unnecessarily jeopardize the safety of Canadian troops.

You can appreciate the Prime Minister’s dilemma. He is obliged to balance two competing claims: on the one hand, to comply with the Speaker’s ruling enjoining him to respect the House’s demand that he produce the documents; and on the other, to comply with his “legal obligations” not to produce them. Don’t you see? The Speaker is asking him to break the law.

What’s a Prime Minister to do? Parliament has passed legislation, notably the Canada Evidence Act, forbidding the government or its employees from disclosing certain documents. And yet here is one of the Houses of that same Parliament, the Commons, backed by its Speaker, demanding that he should disclose those same documents. What could be more reasonable than to seek some way to balance those competing demands?

Except the whole argument’s bogus. No one is asking the Prime Minister to break the law. The conflict of which he complains exists only in his head. This was a key point in the Speaker’s ruling: a law may impose a general prohibition on the release of certain documents, but unless it expressly states that the ban applies to Parliament, it doesn’t. The presumption, that is, is in favour of parliamentary privilege.

I quote from page 20 of the Speaker’s ruling, where he cites House of Commons Procedure and Practice, pp. 978-9:

No statute or practice diminishes the fullness of the power rooted in the House privileges unless there is an explicit legal provision to that effect, or unless the House adopts a specific resolution limiting the power. The House has never set a limit on its power to order the production of papers and records.

The same point is made in the letter from the Commons Law Clerk, Rob Walsh, to the Commons special committee on Afghanistan last December. The committee, he wrote

is at all times to be seen as carrying out its constitutional function of holding the Government to account. This is fundamental to responsible government and more particularly to the relationship between the Government and the House and its committees… The law of parliamentary privilege provides that this relationship operates unencumbered by legal constraints that might otherwise seem applicable…

This is not an exception to the law; it is the law. It does not mean the House of Commons is above the law, or that members may break the law with impunity. It means statute law does not trump the law of parliamentary privilege, which is of constitutional weight.

Moreover, Walsh argues, even if parliamentary privilege did not apply,  Crown privilege — the “long-standing legal presumption that a statute does not apply against the Crown unless this is provided expressly in the statute” — does. The Canada Evidence Act, in particular, may forbid others from releasing certain types of information, but it does not prevent the government from doing so. Quite the contrary: two provisions of the Act expressly permit government this discretion.

In other words, the whole “legal obligations” thing is a canard. It’s the same dodge the government was using from the start, when it claimed to be releasing all “legally available” information. The government is under no legal constraint not to disclose information to the committee. On the other hand, it is legally constrained to comply with the comittee’s demands for documents, as enforced by  a vote of the House on December 10.

In case there was any doubt, the issue was raised in Parliament, Walsh notes, at the time the Canada Evidence Act was drafted. The Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Justice responded:

It would not be the intention of the bill to alter the current status of Parliament’s subpoena powers and privileges…

Having stated this for our parliamentary record so that the intention of the House is clear, an amendment was made to the bill … yesterday for the same purpose of clarifying our intention that Parliament’s privilege to send [for] persons, papers and records not be affected by this legislation.

Indeed, the Justice department concedes as much in its reply to the Law Clerk’s letter. “Section 38 of the Canada Evidence Act has no application to parliamentary committee proceedings,” it acknowledges, appealing instead to “the values that inform legislation passed by Parliament,” and to “the parliamentary convention that injurious information should not be disclosed in a parliamentary setting.”

So if the prime minister is still invoking his “legal obligations,” it can only mean his position hasn’t changed a whit. When he speaks of the need to balance one obligation against another, it really means he intends to defy the Speaker and stonewall Parliament.

I’m with colleague Wells, then: the negotiations into which the government has lately entered are in all likelihood a diversion. The aim is to stall, and probe for divisions within and between the parties, notably the Liberals’ palpable fear of an election. The differences between government and opposition will be made to appear as if they were over questions of detail, rather than fundamental principles. So that when, inevitably, the negotiations break down, the government will sigh and claim that it went the extra mile, as it strove to balance its conflicting obligations, but was thwarted by an intransigent and unreasonable opposition.

ADDENDUM: The Speaker is not, as Norman Spector says, the Pope. He is, however, likely to be the last word on this subject, at least until the Commons itself speaks. (The Speaker can only rule on whether there is a prima facie case for a breach of privilege. It is for the House to decide whether the government is in contempt, together with whatever remedies it sees fit.)

It’s always open to the government to refer the whole matter to the Supreme Court, as Norm says, but the Court is not obliged to answer every question put to it, still less to answer as the government would wish. And there is simply no way on God’s green Earth that the Court is going to tread upon parliamentary privilege.

This is one of the holiest precepts in English constitutional law. It’s the reason they fought the Civil War. It’s one of the central demands upheld in the Bill of Rights of 1689: The courts may not intrude upon the inner workings of Parliament — any more than the King can.

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  • Sigh

    Then they have to try harder to get the message out. It's too important.

  • ex canuck

    Folks, one feels like a hick. How was one to know that one had stumbled into a raging anti-Harper gaggle of funny people. Your hatred is frightening and makes one realise that profoundly negative things have happened to this seemingly benign country. Not so benign at all, just like Canada's political correctness only applies if you are l(L)iberal. Goodnight all.

  • Tony

    Look what we have here – A London Daddy's Boy – the Token CBC Conservative – You represent everything I hate about Ottawa and Canada. You, and your family, haven't paid a dime in blood for this country. – Go fetch your cheque

  • http://intensedebate.com/profiles/thenonconformer thenonconformer

    PERSONAL ACCOUNTABILITY THE FISH STINKS FROM THE HEAD. Unacceptable pretentious justice too. EXCELLENCE WELCOMES SCRUTINY Too many managers participate in the blame game. They blame the government, their peers and subordinates, the marketplace, competition and some take it to the real extreme and blame God. Avoiding responsibility for personal behaviour in business is probably the most fundamental weakness that a manager can possess. The best managers I know are the ones who hold themselves accountable, take responsibility for their behaviour and actions and hold their colleagues equally accountable for their behaviour. Ha ha ha So they now still all cannot cannot be trusted now not to lie on their expense account so can we trust them all still now even anywhere else? Of course not! It is no wonder it takes such a long time to get something done in Ottawa! The way a politician conducts his parliamentary business is clearly still, political and “murky,” with a lot of the money likley used for the political parties expenses and not for the legitimate citizen, or governing business expenses.http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/05/01/c…

  • Eugene

    We need a judicial public inquiry!

  • wellwell

    "The subject who is truly loyal to the Chief Magistrate will neither advise nor submit to arbitrary measures." Junius

  • http://intensedebate.com/profiles/thenonconformer thenonconformer

    PERSONAL ACCOUNTABILITY. MANAGERS MUST manage is such a simple truth, so axiomatic that it is hard to believe that so many people who are called managers – or call themselves managers – completely miss it.
    Too many managers participate in the blame game. They blame the government, their peers and subordinates, the marketplace, competition and some take it to the real extreme and blame God. Avoiding responsibility for personal behaviour in business is probably the most fundamental weakness that a manager can possess.

    The best managers I know are the ones who hold themselves accountable, take responsibility for their behaviour and actions and hold their colleagues equally accountable for their behaviour. http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/05/01/c…

  • http://intensedebate.com/profiles/thenonconformer thenonconformer

    PERSONAL ACCOUNTABILITY. MANAGERS MUST manage is such a simple truth, so axiomatic that it is hard to believe that so many people who are called managers – or call themselves managers – completely miss it.
    Too many managers participate in the blame game. They blame the government, their peers and subordinates, the marketplace, competition and some take it to the real extreme and blame God. Avoiding responsibility for personal behaviour in business is probably the most fundamental weakness that a manager can possess.

    The best managers I know are the ones who hold themselves accountable, take responsibility for their behaviour and actions and hold their colleagues equally accountable for their behaviour. http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2010/05/01/c…

  • Jan

    Who are you referring to?

  • Gayle

    Too bad your opinion is meaningless in the grand scheme of things.

    Run for office, be elected Speaker, and then get back to us.

    Better yet, make this the point of your next campaign: "MP's from other parties cannot be trusted with state secrets. If released to them, the opposition MP's will risk the lives of our soldiers. The opposition parties want our soldiers to DIE"!

    Let's see how far you get with that one.

  • Michel Boucher

    "He is obliged to balance two competing claims: on the one hand, to comply with the Speaker’s ruling enjoining him to respect the House’s demand that he produce the documents; and on the other, to comply with his “legal obligations” not to produce them. Don’t you see? The Speaker is asking him to break the law.."

    This is a red herring. Parliament is not covered by these laws, to wit: "By virtue of the Preamble and section 18 of the Constitution Act, 1867, Parliament has the ability to institute its own inquiries, to require the attendance of witnesses and to order the production of documents, rights which are fundamental to its proper functioning." This also applies to Standing Committees.

    House of Commons Procedure and Practice, Second Edition, 2009, "The Rights to Institute Inquiries, to Require the Attendance of Witnesses and to Order the Production of Documents".

    The aforementioned section 18 states unequivocally: The privileges, immunities, and powers to be held, enjoyed, and exercised by the Senate and by the House of Commons, and by the members thereof respectively, shall be such as are from time to time defined by Act of the Parliament of Canada, but so that any Act of the Parliament of Canada defining such privileges, immunities, and powers shall not confer any privileges, immunities, or powers exceeding those at the passing of such Act held, enjoyed, and exercised by the Commons House of Parliament of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, and by the members thereof.
    http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/const/index.html

    I believe the Constitution trumps any other law which may end up being ultra vires. If anyone still thinks that Harper is telling the truth when he says he can't, think again. It;s not that he can't which bothers him, it's that he must. By the supreme law of the land, he has no choice.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/doug_rogers doug_rogers

    I figured this out. The legal obligation Harper is bound by is the deal he signed with the devil.

  • Reader

    Coalition?

  • Holly Stick

    I think he is desperately trying to hide something. Whether it's a serious crime or just a minor dent to his ego I don't know, but we will find out sooner or later.

  • Holly Stick

    There were good discussions on CBC's "The Sunday Edition" today. No yappy partisans.

  • ex canuck

    you are so OTT

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Ricard_S_Argent Richard_S_Argent

    Having spent many a summer working in various mailrooms on Bay Street I can guarantee you that you are absolutely, 100% wrong.

  • chet

    In the real world of evidence and proof, like the courts, or the honest world of the court of public opinion, if one person's testimony was contradicted by two or three other people and inference reason would be given to suspect the veracity of that testimony.

    But this isn't the honest world of public opinion in which the media portrays all sides and lets the public decide.

    Much like a court of law in a banana republic, the "preferred" testimony, albeit tenuous or even fleeting, is trumpeted from the rooftops, while as the (apparently lowly, nay even…gulp "non-progressive) Blatchford points out, others' testimony are effectively silenced. They speak the wrong words, and so those words are not fit for news readers consumption.

  • Gayle

    You are the one who referred to the lives of our soldiers being at risk. I am just taking it to its logical conclusion.

    Maybe you should just think about what you wrote.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/David0M David_M.

    I believe Tony is questioning Mr. Coyne's patriotism. After all, 'if ya ain't wit us, yur agin us'.
    Way to raise the level of debate there Tony.

  • orval

    The key statement for me in Vaid case is: "a court must decide whether the category and scope of the claimed privilege have been authoritatively established…" The SCC did NOT say "the Speaker" must decide.

    Those who claim that the SCC has no role to play, or that the SCC would refused to hear the Reference, are wrong. I don't claim to know how the SCC might decide the matter, but to dismiss the possibility of a SCC reference shows many journalists do not understand how our system of government works.

    One possibility that hasn't been mentioned is to have the Senate play a role. After all, the Senate is part of Parliament and shares the same privileges with the House of Commons. Why not swear a few Senators as Privy Councilors and have them "vet" the documents, or have Iacobucci report his findings to the Senate, instead of the House of Commons? This way we could get the politics out of it because no-one on the Afghanistan Committee will have any role in deciding whether the documents are release-able or not?

  • Jan

    Given the seriousness of the issue the PM. would be well advised to go to an election and that will settle the matter once and foreall.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/madeyoulook madeyoulook

    Where do we nominate Holly Stick as Chief of Defence Staff? I sure hope she's bilingual! She's got incredible talent, what with knowing without seeing a single page that there is nothing in the whole batch of documents that would, if disclosed, represent a threat to the success and safety of our military. That's pretty impressive.

  • Jan

    We are fighting an insurgency in Afghanistan. One of the strategies is to win over the 'hearts and minds' of the local population. How do you think turning over detainees either guilty or innocent for abuse is contributing to that? And knock off the boy scout stuff. We're propping up a corrupt government who have done nothing for women's rights.

  • Jan

    The old 'who's the real Canadian' criteria . I thought Coyne was from Manitoba and that it was one of the provinces where 'real Canadians' live. These Conservatives are always changing the club rules, it's hard to keep up.

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