Speaking of hyperventilating

MARK STEYN: In his scathing attacks on Fox News, Don Newman sounds a bit bombastic himself

by Mark Steyn on Thursday, June 24, 2010 8:46am - 219 Comments

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Fox News? Oh, c’mon, everyone knows it’s a “minaret for America First prejudice” and “hyperventilated extremism” “screeching to the converted” with “the none-too-bright persona of the schoolyard bully.”

So says Christopher Dornan, director of something called the Arthur Kroeger College of Public Affairs at Carleton University, writing in the Toronto Star.

Naturally, the news that Quebecor is planning a Fox of the North has horrified non-screechy fellows like professor Dornan. According to CBC eminence Don Newman, it’s “the absolute last thing this country needs.” No hyperventilating at the Ceeb, thank goodness.

Full disclosure: for the last few years, I’ve guest-hosted for Sean Hannity on Fox News, first on Hannity & Colmes, latterly on its successor show Hannity. Always have a grand time. The money’s not great, but occasionally, if I’m at a media event in New York, Fox’s head honcho Roger Ailes will give me a shout out from the podium and say, “Mark does just a fabulous job.” And sometimes he almost sounds as if he means it.

Whereas Don Newman’s network has never asked me to guest-host anything. When it comes to the CBC, my phone hasn’t stopped not ringing. So take it as read that I’m eaten up by bitterness. For one thing, it’s severely reduced my chances of being governor general.

Nevertheless, I was struck by the somewhat generalized nature of the anti-Fox jeremiads.
As professor Dornan sees it, the problem isn’t Fox’s “conservatism,” or “even its bombast”: “It’s the channel’s mean-spirited vindictiveness. Opposing viewpoints are entertained, if at all, not so that they can be debated but so that they can be debased: brayed at, mocked, vilified.”

Example?

I mean, how difficult can it be, with all that endemic braying and mean-spirited vindictiveness?
Meanwhile, back at the CBC, Don Newman explains it for us: “Fox News has been hugely polarizing. It specializes in drive-by attacks and misrepresentations, and is positively Orwellian at times, claiming to be ‘fair and balanced’ while implying that its competitors aren’t.
“The reality is that it mainly spews out propaganda that is dangerously misleading and often factually wrong.”

Again: example? Just one?

Now I’m not a responsible, objective, neutral journalist like Mr. Newman. But even we hyperventilating schoolyard bullies spewing to the converted and debasing all others know enough about passing ourselves off as journalists to be aware that you can’t just declare things to be so without producing some evidence thereof. And yet Messrs. Dornan and Newman spend, between them, 2,000 words doing just that. Surely with so many “drive-by attacks” and so much Orwellian bombast to choose from, it would be the work of moments to produce some devastating sound bite by this or that right-wing blowhard. Otherwise, it risks looking a bit like—how would one put it?—a “positively Orwellian” “drive-by attack” by someone “claiming to be fair and balanced” while insisting his competitors aren’t.

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  • Ariadne

    CBC has reiterated that it is looking forward to playing a level field with the newbie. Does it mean that they are volunteering to give up our tax dollar and fight with the newbie and others, through ratings without a dime from us? Where can I sign a petition to stop funding CBC? Anyone know?

  • free speaker

    I found an interesting post at Amnesty International concerning Human Rights in Canada.

    A group called Voices-Voix has convinced Amnesty that their cause is a "freedom of speech" issue. If you examine it , it's a group of what seem to be left-of-center organizations that are complaining that their funding is cut. Nobody is stopping them from speaking. Just stopping them from getting paid for speaking.

    When a democratically elected government decides that they want to fund or not fund various organizations with political objectives surely that's their right, no ? Surely the Liberals did the same thing.

    In any case, funny example of left leaning entitlement. And of how far we've gone from an understanding of what freedom of speech is.
    http://www.amnesty.ca/blog_post2.php?id=1791

  • Archie

    Really Mr. Steyn, do you honestly think that a crypto-Beck or pseudo-Limbaugh would actually get airtime in the terminally politically-correct Frozen North? I'd rather not bet a red cent on that particular possibility! After all, would the Ceeb survive without massive subsidy? It has to be the least-watched TV station South of Nunavut.

  • Gerry Ackerman

    Examples of Fox News' bias? I'll bite:

    – Bill O'reilly claiming Washington DC was being overrun with "hundreds of lesbian biker gangs". DC cops then stated they know of no lesbian biker gangs.

    – Fox News doctoring the photo of Liberal pundits to make them look sinister.

    – Fox News cutting off Obama's speech to the GOP meeting, where he systematically dispelled every talking point raised by the audience. FN stopped airing the broadcast 20 minutes before the end.

    – GW Bush's admission that the White house sent talking points to FN each day and not to any other news outlet.

    – Arranging and promoting of Tea Party meetings by FN producers.

    – Showing 10 year old footage of a large Washington protest and claiming it is a 2010 Tea Party gathering.

    – Hiring Sarah Palin.

    – Blaming Obama for TARP when everyone knows it was a Bush initiative. This one has been repeated dozens of times.

    Anyone who believes Fox News is neutral has to be an absolute fool. Of course, that's that audience FN plays to isn't it?

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Cshifty85 Cshifty85

    Watch the hundreds of clips on The Daily Show and The Colbert Report for evidence that Fox News is dangerous and a joke of a news organization. There are also clips that show how bad CNN and MSNBC are. However Fox is the most dangerous and The Comedy Network video player can show you years and years of their hosts and panelists at their very worst. If Quebecor can avoid that, that's great.

    Google search
    site :www.thecomedynetwork.ca comedy network fox news

  • mimi

    This is getting ridiculous. If there is a market for the new channel then by all means, give them the license. If you don't like it, heres some advice: DON'T WATCH IT! They have a right to say what they want and you have a right to ignore it! Whats the big deal? I, on the other hand, think everyone on TV is insane and not to be believed.

  • Incredible

    Somebody tell Mark I had a subscription for MacLeans Magazine for over twenty years and I cancelled it when he showed up.

  • Adrian A.

    Is there anyone else out there who thinks the problem is the tone of the debate in the media these days? Whether on Fox News OR on CNN, I constantly hear angry arguments, sensationalist presentation, and people cutting each other's sentences off. Regardless of a person's viewpoint, it seems to me that balanced, well-considered argumentation has been replaced by soundbite clips reflecting simplistic and emotional impressions. My personal (biased perhaps) opinion is that in general Canadian media has not fallen as far (yet) in this regard as much of the American media, but I still believe this a general trend that has started to impact here in Canada as well.

    As evidence, check out an old Youtube clip of a nightly news broadcast from the 80's or early 90's, and compare it to what you hear today. The number of superlative adjectives expressing strong emotions, ideas or opinions today is staggering. Not to say there wasn't bias in the 80's — there was of course — but the tone of the debate seemed to require better-reasoned argument, rather than sound bite emotionalism.

    Watching a local news affiliate from the Boston area recently, there were six depressing evening news stories in a row (family homes burned, car crashes, etc) for the day's news. I was shocked that in every one of the stories, the anchors in the studio put clear deliberate emphasis on the words in the story that emphasized the sordid details of the events, or the suffering of the victims, etc. Is this what news has come to?

    I know the news (whether national or local) is only presented to is in a manner that we, the viewers, approve of through the ratings of our own viewership. I lament the increasing anger, bias and emotionalism society seems to enjoy watching its news, because this is not the caring thoughtful society (in either the United States or Canada) that I once thought I knew.

    • Oliver

      Holy crap! A reasonable argument in a Steyn article discussion? Steyn must be right, the world is ending! Flying pigs in the forecast?

      I agree whole-heartedly with this post. And this is why people at CBC can scoff the upcoming SUN TV since the master-mind behind it seems to be indicating he'll using FOX News as a template: sensationalism rather than facts. Obviously all news network are guilty of bending the facts, the CBC included, but the extent to which FOX News does this is alarming.

      Still it's important to keep in mind that the jury is still out on this SUN TV: let's keep an open mind, be weary of the admitted template it's trying to emulate (and not just FOX TVS, but the LCN in Quebec, another absolutely horrible "news" channel) and hope that it won't be a simple cash grab.

    • Phil King

      "…Whether on Fox News OR on CNN, I constantly hear angry arguments, sensationalist presentation, and people cutting each other's sentences off. Regardless of a person's viewpoint, it seems to me that balanced, well-considered argumentation has been replaced by soundbite clips reflecting simplistic and emotional impressions. .."

      Bingo. And well put too. Cheers.

    • Paul Monroe

      It seems like the biggest influence on debate in the American media has been the success of Jerry Springer in the late 90s.
      People turned their heads, scoffed at it, mocked it yet the viewing ratings couldn't have been higher.
      It's funny how sometimes something (or some way of doing things) that a lot of people criticize and judge despicable (I am trying to avoid the word "hate" here) go on to become a trend.
      So every time there's a lot of people angry about something – perhaps that's a sign that it's here to stay – so buckle your seat belts and enjoy the ride.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/SamGenest SamGenest

    I'm a regular viewer of The Daily Show and The Colbert Report and I've seen enough clips from Fox to be pretty sure about how valid a news source it is. Our media doesn't need competition from a Fox like business, we need competition from an Al-Jazeera-like business.

    • Dave S

      You’re pretty sure of what Fox is like because you saw it on a couple of comedy shows? What a riot!

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/SamGenest SamGenest

        4 days a week two comedy shows I watch are able to have material from fox that they can just underline without adding to it that much and have it be comedy. That counts for something. Furthermore, if ever you get to see the shows, you'll notice that their satire is well founded and smart.

  • gnonannon

    What a strange instance of self-referentiality. In response to a straightforward challenge – to support your dubious assertion that Mark Steyn spreads disinformation – you say the following:

    "On your other point, for what exactly do you require proof?

    Do you want linkage to a non-existent study of politics in the classroom? Perhaps you want proof that Americans have always seemed to me to be very friendly hospitable people? Maybe you want proof of my opinion that fanaticism is a greater problem than mere disagreement?

    No. What you probably want is proof that Mark Steyn uses misinformation, distraction, and other clever but less than truthful devices to prove his points, right?

    In the aftermath of 9/11, Mark Steyn suggested that the distraction of social policy was the reason 9/11 happened…or rather, wasn't stopped from happening. Proof of this? None."

    You exemplify everything you accuse him of. That is not nearly so clever as you think, since you prove nothing and persuade nobody.

  • Phil King

    This article is just one big excuse for being as sensationalist and biased as one wishes to be, all sold as entertainment masquerading as news.

    Being biased may be natural, but when one gives up the attempt to embody one of the key ideals of journalism, ie fairness and objectivity, then one excuses the inevitable devolution into ever more "profitable" forms of propoganda.

  • Paulo Moraes

    Interesting this view of yours.
    And you know, as soon as you posted it, that it would be someone to point the finger and criticize/ label you.
    That's a good point: Canadians love to criticize things they seem to have no clue about.
    What a smart way to show how smart we are!
    Wanna know what is the world's view of Canada?
    Canada and Canadians are (extremely) boring.
    Well, I partly agree with it. I thing Canadians are masters at making a big issue (and a big fuss) out of nothing , and you know why? Just watch the Canadian news on tv.
    Nothing interesting happens here.
    This is the land of conformity.

  • Paul Monroe

    I think most people prefer not to have a view because here in Canada people are too rigid.
    Once one has a view one is immediately labeled in a very polarizing way.
    Most people prefer to see for themselves before having an opinion.
    Some people prefer to have an opinion before seeing for themselves.
    Americans seem to be more into questioning the assumptions than Canadians.

  • Bill Gibbons

    How many more lefties in here are going to keep posting bollocks? The fact is, we have less free speech in Canada than in the USA. The "liberals" who drool at the idea of imposing totalitarian rule in the Big Empty can only dream about the suffocating control that Beijing has over the media, not to mention restricted Internet access and of course, the perpetuality of the one-party state.

    Gansters, crooked businessmen, murderers and rapists are all executed in China, which is the only good thing that I can think off that Canada should adopt.

    Mind you, with the suspension of democracy, the Liberals/NDP/Bloc will turn the country into a basket case, where free speech advocates will be imprisoned, the global warming myth will be the new state religion, Internet access will be restricted along with book burnings to "cleanse' the nation of all the "intolerants" that dare to resist the thought police.

  • Ariadne

    I have the same observation. I have been hearing a lot of negative comments from nicer Canadians about their nastier US cousins, only to find helpful, nice and pleasant people when I visited the US. Even in forums I have read many nasty comments from Canadians to Americans, yet seldom see bad mouthing from Americans to Canadians.

  • Mel from Eckville

    I remember in the 80s an American newsman who was under fire from some conservative activists because he refused to refer to the rebels in El Salvador as "communists". We have to be objective, he explained, and there are different groups in that country, with different heroes. Some of them support Marx. Some support Mao. Some support Kim Il-Sung. Some support Castro. So you see there is an enormous diversity among these groups.

    Keep this in mind as you hear journalists advocate objectivity and diversity in their industry.

  • Russ Californian

    People act as if the press has always been this kind of mythical Cronkitesque beacon of truth and reason.

    Sorry, but Uncle Walt was a hopeless lefty. His biases bled through every CBS Evening News broadcast I saw…and I was but a child at the time. NBC's Humphrey-Brinkley was (as I recall as a child) straightforward news.

  • Andre

    Thank God for Fox

  • The Oracle

    My cable co. charges me for CNN, Headline News, PBS, MSNBC, and all the rest of that leftist BS that I dont want nor watch.

  • Gary Ruppert

    The fact is, Concrete was biased and hated American

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