Lock them up: Why the G20 thugs don’t deserve any leniency

We cannot allow international summits to become an excuse for roving lawlessness

by macleans.ca on Tuesday, July 6, 2010 9:57am - 0 Comments

PHOTOGRAPH BY BRENT LEWIN

For most Canadians the lasting memory of the $1.2-billion G8-G20 summits will be the sight of a burning police car, and not the contents of any final communiqué. Such an unfortunate situation demands the continued pursuit of all lawbreakers involved in the summit riots. And a rethink of how and where summits are held.

In downtown, Toronto gangs of highly motivated thugs torched four police cars and broke storefront windows of dozens of businesses during a wild spree of G20 violence. Police responded by arresting more than 900 protesters and bystanders. A journalist reporting on the scene claimed it was scarier than a Bosnian war zone, and one of those arrested called the 17 hours he spent in detention “tantamount to torture.” The Canadian Civil Liberties Association (CCLA) is demanding an inquiry into police tactics, calling them “disproportionate, arbitrary and excessive.”


What took place on the streets of Toronto was indeed a serious situation, yet anxiety over the behaviour of police is wildly overdone. Those responsible for the damage should be the focus of society’s anger. Only the professionalism and preparedness of police prevented circumstances from being much worse. Rather than an inquiry, we need further police effort to ensure every one of those lawless thugs is brought to justice.

Overheated arguments from the CCLA and others regarding mass arrests and claims of police brutality need to be kept in perspective. Many of the complaints seem to involve the quality of the sandwiches in detention. Or that the police banged their batons on their shields in an “intimidating” manner. It’s possible many of those arrested for breach of the peace were not directly involved in any violence. But they were released in a matter of hours. Canadians’ constitutional rights have survived the ordeal unscathed.

It is necessary to keep the violence that did occur in perspective as well. Recall that when the Montreal Canadiens beat the Boston Bruins in the first round of the 2007-2008 NHL playoffs, street havoc also ensued. And those Montreal rioters managed to torch or smash 16 police cars. So by at least one measure, the G20 conflagration produced only one-quarter of the damage created by a run-of-the-mill hockey riot. Further to the point, there were no injuries significant enough to mention and the riot earned only modest international attention. This was no Bosnia in the 1990s. It wasn’t even Montreal in April.

Of course with the leaders of most major nations in attendance, the security issues at the G8-G20 summits were far more significant than at any playoff match. For their $1.2-billion outlay, Canadians got a massive police presence, a lengthy fence in downtown Toronto and a raft of crowd-control innovations. This enormous show of force meant police outnumbered protesters in most circumstances. Even so, this wasn’t enough, as the burnt police cars testify.

But consider what might have happened without this massive investment in security. Had the “black bloc” anarchists responsible for the extant street damage penetrated the security fence and disrupted the actual G20 events, the international attention would have been much more significant, and the damage done to Canada’s reputation far greater. Whatever steps the police took to prevent this from happening were both necessary and welcome.

In fact the police should be commended for their vow to pursue any and all protesters associated with the vandalism. Merely detaining and releasing violent hoodlums is not a sufficient response to the threat they pose to civil society. The protection of free speech and assembly can only exist when there is proper respect for the rule of law. Legitimate protest acknowledges the existence of state authority while providing a different point of view. The same is true with civil disobedience. What we saw over the weekend, however, had nothing constructive to offer society. It was simply opportunistic chaos. It is thus imperative that we find and punish everyone responsible for this embarrassing period of disorder. We welcome the determination a Toronto police spokesman expressed to our reporters (page 26): “Our team will continue to work for the next two years, five years, if necessary to bring every one of these people to justice . . . Nobody is getting away with this.” Nor should they.

Beyond the role of the police, however, there’s another reason—largely overlooked—why a major security catastrophe was averted: the global protest movement appears to be losing steam.

The mass of protesters agreed on very little other than a general sense of unhappiness with the status quo, whatever it might be. Issues seen and heard from the crowd ranged from animal liberation to legalization of marijuana to the treatment of homosexuals in Iran. There was no consistent message, other than the minority position on the desirability of broken windows. Only after the fact have protesters managed to coalesce around a common theme of alleging police brutality. Yet it bodes poorly for the future of the protest movement if the only coherent argument it can muster involves the reaction of others to itself.

At the end of the day, debate over street violence, protest and police ought to be secondary to the summit’s practical achievements. And the G20 summit did conclude on a note worthy of some optimism: a pledge to cut government deficits in half by 2013. While this only applies to the most advanced economies within the G20, it is still a step in the right direction. Bringing the world’s major economies back to fiscal balance is crucial to closing the book on the Great Recession. Was this accomplishment, significant though it may be, worth the candle?

As we have argued previously, most of the real summit work is completed at earlier meetings attended by finance ministers and assorted underlings. The role of formal summits is largely to provide world leaders with an opportunity to mingle and pose for a group photo. Given the massive cost of security—and the fact that even $1.2 billion cannot prevent an embarrassing riot—there’s a pressing need for a more efficient means to this end. There are two obvious possibilities. Hold smaller get-togethers in remote locations that are more easily secured. Or designate a permanent and safe location for the G20, as is the case with the United Nations in New York City. We cannot allow international summits to become an excuse for roving lawlessness.

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  • Boyo

    Lock them up: Why the G20 thugs don’t deserve any leniency should read, Take Away Their Badges: Why the G20 Police don't deserve their jobs as protectors of the people.

    This is a serious piece of shit writing.

    Why do governments (yes Harper, I'm looking at you) think that suspending, violating, ignoring people's rights is OK? That people can be treated as any old piece of inconsequential garbage and that's OK? Why, when people have power (Harper, McGuinty, Miller, Blair & individual police persons) they exercise it in the worst possible manner?

    Since the pepperspraying in Vancouver we have seen more and more that "Power" is being used to suppress people not empower people. Until the people are empowered in their own country we are deemed to be the opposite of democratic and no matter how long and loud "Power" proclaim we are/this was democratic, their actions say otherwise. Whatever your political stripe … WE NEED TO TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK!!

  • Simon

    Yes, bring the thugs to justice – the police officers who violently assaulted peaceful protesters and journalists, and fired rubber bullets at them, and those who gave them their orders. As for the property destruction, which unlike the conduct of the uniformed police caused no injuries, the police role in faciliting it needs to be investigated.

  • Guest

    Totally clueless, embarrassingly shallow commentary. The violent protesters got away because the police let them through their incompetence on Saturday. Then the police took revenge on non-violent protesters.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/blaineca blaineca

    Wow. Is this the quality of "journalism" I can expect from this rag? No wonder I choose to get most of my news overseas. How anyone in this country can not be furious that we had, in Toronto, something akin to the War Measures Act enacted (illegal search and detention even priot to summit, violence at Queen's Park that was unprovoked AND THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A FREE SPEECH ZONE, people denied legal council etc. etc. etc.) except IT WAS NOT ENACTED. Everything that was done was ILLEGAL. THERE WAS NO GOVERNMENT DECREED SUSPENSION OF RIGHTS. Not only that, but it's OBVIOUS that the entire thing was used as a free for all by RCMP and perhaps CSIS to stop and investigate people who acted WITHIN THE LAW for their (RCMP) own purposes. The whole thing stinks to high heaven and as a result we should have another McDonald Commission with a new name. Canadians should demand civilian oversight over all policing activities. And where, pray tell, did the 1,000,000,000 dollars go? To fund these organizations that deem themselves above the law? People can say the protesters are weak on this one… complaining about things that don't matter. I say, fall over journalism that doesn't understand the precedent that will be set by this summit if the policing activities are not investigated, should grow a pair themselves.

  • john butson

    i have to agree this article is very very ignorant…

    may i quote a Toronto police officer "if that bubble touches me, you're going to be arrested for assault.." HAHAHAHA restraint, ya right…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMTm3QRwEc&fe…

    then…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVwXOKZh4Os&fe…

  • josh

    "In fact the police should be commended for their vow to pursue any and all protesters associated with the vandalism. "

    This has proven to be an empty vow…the police showed little interest in arresting anyone committing acts of violence. The person who instigated the destruction of police cars wore no mask. I've seen countless pictures of him posted on protestor sites…we'd all like to see him arrested. http://torontog20exposed.blogspot.com/2010/07/sus…
    Why aren't the police posting his picture everywhere…why aren't they asking the public for help identifiying him. I don't necessarily believe the guy is a provacateur, but his arrest would be a great symbol for the police if they really are serious about bringing vandals to justice. Otherwise, that excuse for the mass arrests of peaceful protesters rings hallow.

  • Al CSIS

    The ISU are a bunch of cowboys who ignore civilian intelligence at every opportunity. They chose to ignore intelligence on SOAR (Southern Ontario Anarchists Resistance) and devoted time to ground operation wherein CCTV signal intelligence was ignored. You reporters should do yourselves a favor before praising police as though you are groupies at a Crosby Stills Nash and Young concert and realize that situations are nuanced. Both those engaging in Black Blocing Tactics (the black bloc is not a group as a prior RCMP report suggests) and police are at fault. And just so you know, all of those good, positive, and reliable intelligence networks CSIS took the time to build on campuses among activists wary of radicals have gone to shit because they are spooked. So please, when you go to bed tonight, realize that what the ISU did on the G20 weekend was make our job at civilian intelligence harder and should our unseen shield waver or weaken due to the actions of some RCMP cowboys, we all know who to blame…

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Big_Mac001 Big_Mac001

    Excellent discussions here.

  • Lord Kitchener's Own

    I certainly agree that any thugs arrested should have the book thrown at them

    Now, can we talk about what should be done about the other 900+ people who were arrested for things like "walking to work" and "taking groceries back to my apartment", and "sitting on the grass at Queen's Park"???

    • NamelessLaugh

      Pffft. They got a free sandwich out of it, and probably made new friends in holding. They weren't even put in zip-tie wristlets. I've never been arrested so luxuriously, I've still got a ridge on my forehead from the nightstick.

  • Philip Stern

    Hi everyone,
    Take action. Cancel your subscriptions. Maclean's is owned by Rogers Media. If you're customer of their magazines, etc., make your voice heard by kicking them hard in their revenues: http://www.rogerspublishing.ca/portfolio/rogers_w… . Suggest the same to anyone who receives their publications for waiting rooms (e.g., your dentist, doctor, etc.) — advertisers ascribe a lot of value to such subscriptions. And, of course, tweet and blog to spread the word.

    Paul Wells should also take action. He should resign.

    Philip Stern
    philip@sternthinking.com

  • http://ralphforsyth.com Ralph Forsyth

    We should host summits like this in Whistler

    • Name

      Amen… how much does it cost to keep a bunch of mountain folk out of a provincial park?

  • East Coast Blues

    http://torontog20exposed.blogspot.com/2010/07/sus…

    Nuff said. Show me the money Blair.
    So how much cash did some hack within MacLeans (name witheld for good reason I suspect) get paid by Harper's Schutzstaffel to write and print this crap.

  • Blair

    Wow, reading some of these negative comments clearly explains the ignorance you have to policing. Obviously the tactics used by the anarchists was to burn the cars and lure the police from the security zones so that worse damage could be done. Stop the armchair quarterbacking. Those who chose to be in the middle of things are the authors of their own misfortune.
    The police kept EVERYONE safe, nobody was hurt and catastrophe was avoided. The police did an amazing job, were very professional and should be commended. A few burnt cars can be replaced. Did you see all the weapons seized from the so called innocent protesters? Firebombs, knives, hammers, bats, axes, 2×4's…. Not very peaceful items….. Rocks, urine and feces were thrown at the Police, those people are lucky they didnt get hurt.

  • http://duncankinney.com Duncan Kinney

    What awful, lazy writing.

  • tired

    I've cancelled my subscription, this piece of writing is in my opinion horrid.

    Macleans very right of centre politics permeates throughout its magazine. I've tolerated it for far too long.

  • Seth

    I had the displeasure of finding this article on the table in the staff room at work. In defense of the police at the G20 summit, and in condemnation of the protestors, McLeans editorial staff writes:

    "The protection of free speech and assembly can only exist when there is a proper respect for the rule of law"

    In light of the subversive tactics of the cabinet and of the police, I suggest McLeans does more research into their perverted understanding of this concept.

  • Marc

    Well written opinion piece from the editors.

    I can't take any of it at face value; it sounds like the author(s) were in a mood while this was written. This wasn't meant to be journalism (I hope, for the credibility of the writer(s)), it's an opinion piece like you'd find in the front few pages of any magazine. Take it for what it's worth; someone's thoughts. They just so happen to have a cooler place to write their thoughts than we do.

    Newsflash: most of our opinions we're posting on here sound equally silly.

    That being said, my perspective and personal opinion is on the same side of the spectrum; like the TPS said a month earlier, "if you don't need to be in town that weekend, don't be." I'm not a troublemaker, so I knew very well while walking through downtown Toronto that week (where police were the majority of people in the streets), I wasn't going to be sticking around when the motorcades hit town. I disagree with a lot of things in the world, and I'd like to see them changed, but the G20 protests are not the most effective forum to voice our disagreements. It's a protest, you're standing in a clearly marked "designated protest zone;" being arrested for being in the wrong place at the wrong time, getting sub-standard (FREE) sandwiches, was probably the highlight of your weekend. You probably made new friends and updated your Facebook on your BlackBerry while sitting in the company of likeminded individuals. It was a free night's accommodation in better comfort than the World Backpacker's hostel on Spadina.

    Get over it. Move on. Find a more effective way to make the changes you want where the public will take you seriously. We have a democracy. Make use of it, or else we're no better off than an anarchy or dictatorship.

    I'd sure hate to see you guys in a country where police brutality is actually something to be afraid of, to the point you don't dare talk about it.

    • QuestionThoughtfully

      I think the point has been missed… maybe you're not a trouble maker, but these unnamed authors have done this in the past, they stir up shit to encourage discussion. It seems as though it works. MacLean's feeding the dogs and blog trolls like this gives the ISU a clear indicator of how the public feels about their work. Good on MacLean's for fuelling the anger about it.

      I don't think it was meant to be taken seriously, it was just to set a few of us off to rant a bit. I hope ISU is reading this. I hope the Montreal riot officers are reading this and not taking it personally… they were given strict orders, and they followed them. I've been there before, like a track racer qualifying for the Olympics, all you want to do is run, but the guy with the starter pistol is high.

    • ThinkAboutIt

      I think the point has been missed… maybe you're not a trouble maker, but these unnamed authors have done this in the past, they stir up shit to encourage discussion. It seems as though it works. MacLean's feeding the dogs and blog trolls like this gives the ISU a clear indicator of how the public feels about their work. Good on MacLean's for fuelling the anger about it.

      I don't think it was meant to be taken seriously, it was just to set a few of us off to rant a bit. I hope ISU is reading this. I hope the Montreal riot officers are reading this and not taking it personally… they were given strict orders, and they followed them. I've been there before, like a track racer qualifying for the Olympics, all you want to do is run, but the guy with the starter pistol is high.

    • ThinkAboutIT

      I think the point has been missed… maybe you're not a trouble maker, but these unnamed authors have done this in the past, they stir up emotion to encourage discussion. It seems as though it works. MacLean's feeding the dogs and blog trolls like this gives the ISU a clear indicator of how the public feels about their work. Good on MacLean's for fuelling the anger about it.

      I don't think it was meant to be taken seriously, it was just to set a few of us off to rant a bit. I hope ISU is reading this. I hope the Montreal riot officers are reading this and not taking it personally… they were given strict orders, and they followed them.

  • ThankYou

    I'm glad you fell into MacLean's trap. Does a (relatively) reputable publication actually expect to write something this offensive without this backlash? Maybe they're using our responses to send the real message… "ISU, we disagree. Do better next time."

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/sea_n_mountains sea_n_mountains

    So, concern that we have just experienced the largest mass arrests in Canadian history and the willingness of the police to misrepresent the law to Canadian citizens (as well as their actions in enforcing it), purportedly over the destruction of four police cars and the windows of (wait for it) dozens of store windows, is tantamount to complaints about "the quality of the sandwiches in detention".

    no wonder this thing was posted anonymously. have to ensure that no one leaves any fingerprints doing the dirty work of schilling.

  • Tyson Vickers

    There's isn't much that hasn't already been said, but just so we're clear…"subscription cancelled."

  • Emily

    For those who read Macleans, the look at the pictures in the article. Do you see the man in green being held down police? His name is John. John is NOT a thug. I have met John, and did you know why he was arested? For "resisting arest" when in fact John is missing a leg. It is very hard for John to get up and down. He and his daughter sat down with two other protesters where they were told they could. A group of police came up to the the four peaceful protesters banging on their sheilds yelling at them to move. John's daughter and the other two protesters were helping John get up while the police we shouting and hitting them. Johns daughter was arrested, John's artificial leg was tooken away from him. The police told him to hop, but he could not get up, so they dragged him to the bus which took them to jail.

  • Emily

    Congrats to you, you have said what I have been meaning to say ever since the G20, thanks-you

  • Irene

    Honestly, the editor who ran this piece should be fired or suspended. The article is completely misinformed and purposefully fictionalized to the point where you're assuming your readers have been living under a rock and won't notice the horrid 'journalism.'

  • Apple

    Didn't realize that it took 900 people to burn 1 police car. And if that's the case, how does that make the police prepared.

    The truth is, the police pushed protesters from Queens Park (the designated protest area-which is against the Charter of Rights) while the vandals were torching the police car. Prepared? Don't think so.

    What about the video of a police officer (who refused to identify himself) arrested a protester for blowing bubbles? Surely that does not sound professional to you.

    Stop with the propaghandi already.

  • Shojingod

    Ontario Ombudsman's special report on G20 regulation — Take that and suck it Macleans

  • Chris

    I agree with throwing the book at the violent protesters/black block, but not if it means that even one innocent/non-violent protester was subjected to the conditions of the detention 'camp'. The conditions of the detention camp would not have been inflicted on Canada's most notorious criminals for fear of suspending their Rights: why is it okay to do so to people with dissenting opinions?

    The allegations of widespread abuse and appalling conditions aren't just coming from tinfoil hat wearing wing-nuts either. CityTV's Michael Talbot, a reporter simply covering the story, has written a marvelous piece (which can be found on the CityTV website, just google city tv reporter detained g20) in which he describes the arbitrary nature with which he was arrested and then unfairly detained.

    The truest tragedies here are the violent protesters that gave all the protesters a bad name, and the 'bad' cops who seriously undermined the bravery of the majority of the police services in attendance.

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