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When Conservatives form coalitions

by Paul Wells on Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:50pm - 0 Comments

From John F. Burns, the Canadian-born dean of New York Times foreign correspondents: David Cameron Carves an Identity as Slasher of Government Big Spending.

“After 10 weeks in office… one of the most activist prime ministers in modern times, rivalling… even Margaret Thatcher… a wider effort to break the mold of big government… an economic course of almost savage austerity…an ambitious — and politically risky — bid to dismantle Britain’s sprawling bureaucracy…”

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  • Emily

    Good grief. Another second coming!

    I dunno about anybody else, but I'm almighty sick of saviours.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Raging_Ranter Raging_Ranter

    I hope, someday, to read the same words written about Stephen Harper. Silly bugger I am.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/s_c_f s_c_f

      Give it time.

      • Emily

        You won't live that long.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/AJR79 AJR79

    Sounds like my kinda guy.

    No heavy Christian/so-con overtones either. I think Canadian Conservatives are getting gyped.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Stewart_Smith Stewart_Smith

      Is that the fault of PM Harper or Canadian Conservatives?

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/tedbetts tedbetts

        PM Harper's for misleading Canadian C/conservatives into thinking he was one of them and Canadian Conservatives for persisting in the belief that he still is or will someday be if only ______ (fill in the excuse).

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/Stewart_Smith Stewart_Smith

          My personal feeling is that Preston Manning & the Reform group still within caucus share a huge responsibility. They are the group that projects conservative integrity to the base and yet on every major policy issue the opportunists parachuted in from Ontario carry the day.

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/AJR79 AJR79

          Some of us may not be "persisting in the belief…". Many of us probably just have a stronger belief that the Liberals would be worse.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/AJR79 AJR79

        Does that mean I can't blame the Liberals? ; )

        Seriously thou, I can't bring myself to blame the rank and file CPC members/voters. Many are disaffected, but see no good alternatives. Policy starts at the top, and with this government more than most. Mr.Harper is on the hook IMHO, at least until the next CPC leadership review.

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/Stewart_Smith Stewart_Smith

          Presumably two large groups within the current CPC are the former reformers and the remaining red tories. However, the only fraction within the CPC that seems to have found a voice is the out-there libertarians under Max. How quickly former reformers (with their professed evangelical attitude towards grass roots politics) have become become blatant hypocrits is particularly disappointing to me.

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/AJR79 AJR79

            In my first ever election, I voted for Preston. I was young at the time, and not aware of his strong religious beliefs; also my own beliefs were only partly formed. These days the religious right makes me nervous, and they have about as much influence in the party as I can stand.

            As for getting back to grass roots principles, I totally agree. An example of this can be found in the heavy-handed way the Rob Anders thing was handled. The old Reform Party would never have allowed that.

            I can't say I pine for the day when evangelicals find a stronger voice in the party. I believe a secular, fiscally conservative, socially libertarian party would be the strongest move forward, for those conservatives who want fiscal restraint.

            I believe that if we give in on social issues, the public would feel comfortable with us cutting the size of government. Too much political capital is wasted on fighting "hidden social agenda" fears.

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/Stewart_Smith Stewart_Smith

            You sir are truly lucky, you not only have a clear vision of where you want to go, with Max stepping up you have a prophet to follow.

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/AJR79 AJR79

            I like Max, but I'm not sold on him being able to win an election. I lean towards a guy like Jim Prentice.

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/PhilCP Phil

            Isn't Prentice straying just a little to close to the Joe Clark / Hugh Segal red tory?

            FWIW, I would also give Prentice a very close look, if he made a run at the leadership.

          • AJR79

            I don't see him as a fiscal Red Tory for some reason, more of a social one. It's probably just me projecting my beliefs onto him. I'd also take a look at Bernard Lord if he made a run.

            Do either of these guys would have the stones to do what needs to be done? I just don't know.

            I feel it would be worth the risk to find out thou, and feel that either of them could win a majority.

            (unlike say Max)

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/PhilCP Phil

            Just to clarify…..your preference is for a social red tory, yes?

            Bernard Lord, also worth a close look if he decided to give it a run. IIRC when he left politics in NB he sounded quite certain that federal politics was not in his future, much more certain than I would have thought…..

            If Bernier were to become leader at some point I can see how he would widen the potential pool of CPC voters, not by a huge number, but maybe enough for a majority, and Bernier wouldn't loose too many from "the base".

            Prentice and Lord would widen the pool by attracting "centrists", but at the cost of possilby loosing some "hard core" CPC voters.

            Anyhoo, that's my prognostication, worth the price charged.

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/PhilCP Phil

            Last 2 paras….very nice.

            I know who Rob Anders is, and know a bit about his reputation; has something new happened lately? Has his muzzle been loosened or tightened? Are you suggesting that in the Reform days he would have had more leeway? An inquiring mind wants to know! ;-)

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/AJR79 AJR79
          • http://intensedebate.com/people/PhilCP Phil

            Ahhh, the latest gyration; thanks for the link.

            Even though the CPC party leadership appears to have come to Mr Anders' rescue in this instance, quietly, behind closed doors at party HQ they can't actually be happy that Anders is the candidate again, are they? I read their response to the local board as being an intentional choice to stick to the letter of the rules and their own constituion and so on, despite the consequence that Anders is the candidate. Do you concur?

            I like to use the Anders case as an example of the benefits of an STV electoral system, since it would allow all Calgarian CPC voters to rank the (presumably about) seven CPC candidates. I assume that that would mean that Anders would be the least favoured CPC candidate, and might not make it out of Calgary, presumably replaced instead by the most favoured Liberal or ND candidate.

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/AJR79 AJR79

            Anders is a big behind the scenes player in the fundraising game, and I believe is close to Harper. Calgary West is unloseable for the Tories, and I think the Party higher ups are happy to have him running again.

            I just don't really like the guy, and I really don't like what the CPC did regarding their nomination rules and taking over the riding association just because they wanted a race.

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/Stewart_Smith Stewart_Smith

            Part of managing the message is managing the messengers which means controlling the riding associations. Calgary West was the perfect spot to demonstrate the centers power because it is unloseable.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Inkless Inkless

    Hey Paul, was John Burns really born in Canada?

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Inkless Inkless

      Nope! That was completely wrong. He's from Nottingham. But he did study at McGill and become a China hand for the Globe.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/john_g2708 john g

        Damn! A Conservative government actually behaving Conservative. Where can I get me one of those over here?

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/s_c_f s_c_f

          Well, let's not get carried away. Up until now, Cameron never sounded like a conservative. And the reason he's doing the chopping is that the UK is close to becoming the next Greece.

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/tedbetts tedbetts

            That's the key!

            Before becoming a PM, sound like a moderate and then govern like a true fiscal conservative, instead of sounding like a far right radical fiscal conservative and then governing like a free spending, deficit loving, government expanding conservative.

            Harper got it backwards.

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/s_c_f s_c_f

            sounding like a far right radical fiscal conservative and then governing like a free spending, deficit loving, government expanding conservative

            ?

            Apparently the facts mean nothing to you.

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/tedbetts tedbetts

            "Apparently the facts mean nothing to you." Merely spewing nonsense doesn't make it any more logical, scf.

            Before he was elected as PM, Cameron was derided by fiscal conservatives and seemed to advocate for a moderating position on fiscal matters; now he is being held out as a good example for fiscal conservatives. Do you dispute that fact?

            Before he was elected as PM, Harper was considered a fiscal conservative and advocated spending cuts, fiscal restraint, opposed corporate welfare, opposed regional development agencies, opposed stimulus spending even in hard economic times, opposed deficit spending. Do you dispute those facts?

            Since he was elected as PM, he has boasted about his reversals on every single one of those issues. Do you dispute that fact?

          • sbt

            I think the real key is to have the economy be a complete and utter disaster when you take over. It explains both Chretien in 1993 and Harris in Ontario in 1995. The political and economic climate in which Harper took over in 2006 is really not at all comparable to what David Cameron inherited (except the minority situation, I guess). Who would have thought the Liberal Democrats would be involved in their own Common Sense Revolution, though? Maybe a vote for the NDP IS actually a vote for the Conservatives?

          • Orson Bean

            I think you're right, sbt. In the years leading up to Chretien's election in 1993, a lot of Canadians were simply in denial about the need to really do something about our debt and deficit problem (hell, some of them still are — cf. Naomi Klein, who swears to this day that the whole problem was made up by evil corporate elites).

            Another example of what you're talking about was Klein in Alberta, when they had significant deficit issues. He had a strong and clear mandate to make cuts and balance the budget, and that's what he did.

          • Gaunilon

            "Up until now, Cameron never sounded like a conservative. "

            That is interesting isn't it? One might almost begin to suspect that he had a hidden agenda.

            Or perhaps he's just doing what's required for the UK to survive. But even then I don't think Brown, for example, would have done it. The fact that Cameron even sees the problem is a step in the right direction.

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/s_c_f s_c_f

            Yes, I agree with you. In fact, Brown and Labour are doing everything they can to fight it, according to the article.

            There's no question Brown would have done none of it.

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/s_c_f s_c_f

          Here's a handy graphic: http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47008000/jp…

          Only one country in the G7 is projected to have less debt in 2014 than now.

          • Emily

            I love projections. LOL

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/s_c_f s_c_f

            Feel free to see which country had the smallest growth in debt from 2007 to 2010. Funny enough, it's the same country.

          • LiveBloggin Junkie

            Says the person who projects we will be in a depression at any moment. LOL

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/tedbetts tedbetts

            …. about the person who said we'd never have a recession or a deficit. LOL.

        • s_c_f

          And then of course, the UK government spending is about half of GDP. http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n304/toro1801/…

          So it's likely that after spending is slashed, Canada will still have a lower level of government spending.

        • Gayle

          You need to ask Paul Martin to come back.

          • DPT

            To do what? Cut transfers to provinces and slash health care? Perhaps to raid an EI fund scammed from employees and employers alike only to take credit for "slaying the deficit" in improving economic conditions.

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/madeyoulook madeyoulook

            You left out "riding the coattails of da-tax-dat-not-get-scrapped GST revenues" and "consciously enjoying the false prosperity of a severely devalued loonie" but you put in a good effort nonetheless.

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/VinceClortho VinceClortho

          You can have it when the political conditions are the same…..when the country is one bad budget away from being pushed toward debt crisis AND the electorate is determined to avoid it (which makes it different than Greece)

          The financial crisis in the UK is understood by enough of the electorate that they support tougher measures…..the fact tat there is a siginificant chunk of the electorate that

          1) saw the pain of being of both being out of balance in the late 70's and the pain associated with the stark cure helps

          2) Saw the benefits of "taking their medicine"

          I am not sure if you want the conditions that enable that government, I really believe that if the conditions dont exist that you wont get the government because the electorate wont provide enough support.

          So we had support for some increases in spending, because the electorate was focussed on the surplus. Then there was general support for necessary stimulus spending, but not overboard, and now there is broad support for the clean up…..but because of our conditions there isnt a consensus for radical moves either way. That is analysis and observation not endorsement by the way.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/Crit_Reasoning Crit_Reasoning

        Wherever he was born, John F. Burns has still spent more time on Canadian soil than the Leader of the Opposition. That makes him Canadian enough for me!

        PS: Say, what's with all the Muppets around here?

        • Emily

          And both of them have 'spent more time on Canadian soil' than Mark Carney…the governor of the Bank of Canada.

          You guys are soooo provincial and petty, it's pathetic.

          • Crit_Reasoning

            Lighten up, Emily! It's a joke!

            (Also, just in case this turns out to be a question in the next Canadian edition of Trivial Pursuit, you're wrong that Mark Carney spent less time here.)

          • mungman

            Some can't let the facts get in the way of a good talking point, right Bittermuch?

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/s_c_f s_c_f

        But he wrote some good poetry and songs like Auld Lang Syne.

  • Emily

    And 13 or whatever number of years from now that this govt lasts….another one will come along promising to reform everything and restore some 'golden age' that never existed….and they'll write more articles on the latest 'saviour'.

    Meanwhile absolutely nothing will change.

  • bergkamp

    "In his first major speech on the theme of the “Big Society” since winning the election, the Prime Minister will announce the “biggest redistribution of power from elites in Whitehall to the man and woman on the street”.

    Mr Cameron – who is keen to present his administration as offering optimistics new policies that are not just about cuts – will say that the “liberation” of volunteers and activists to help their own communities is the vision which drives his premiership." The Telegraph, July 18, 2010

    Cameron sounds conservative, at least, and he's on the right track by encouraging the little platoons to take over some functions from the State. UK Cons are also in a hurry to alter public school system. So far, so good but we have to wait and see for a few years at least to see if Cameron can deliver on his vision.

    If only Canadian Cons sounded and/or acted like their UK cousins instead of the increased spending/bureaucracy and Clement's mealy mouth nonsense we've had to endure over the past few years.

    "rivalling… even Margaret Thatcher"

    Those are fighting words because most Cons/cons hold Thatcher in high esteem. Cameron isn't as ideological, or as keen to battle, as Thatcher was and I think Cameron is going to struggle to impose his vision.

    • Emily

      Well if you think such hype is 'conservative' you'll love the idea he's going to take all the money 'laying dormant' in the UK and 'redistribute it'.

      • Jan

        I love hearing an Etonian fighting for the man and woman in the street. They're just so eloquent.

        • Emily

          And soooo believable. LOL

          • Jan

            People from places like Leeds just murder the language. I mean really.

          • Emily

            True….Leeds is so …..Leeds.

            I'm sure he'd have a coffee at Timmies if he thought it would help him. LOL

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/AJR79 AJR79

          Didn't Iggy go to a good school too?

      • s_c_f

        That is truly a shocking policy. It sickens me.

        The government decreed that any money lying around should become government money. Not passed to a relative. Not handed to charity. Not even handed to the bank which was entrusted with the money. Instead, it's taken by the government, even though the government has absolutely no claim to the money whatsoever.

        Not only that, the government is truly incapable of operating within budget. So they decide to pass a law to confiscate money from those who actually know how to save.

        • cshe

          they truly know how to encourage people to save

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/s_c_f s_c_f

      If only Canadian Cons sounded and/or acted like their UK cousins

      I think the graphs I've listed above shown which country is in better shape looking forward, and it's not the UK.

      • Greg

        Poor Britain.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/tedbetts tedbetts

        Thank you Jean Chretien!

        • s_c_f

          ? The listed budget and debt activity starts with 2007 and ranges to 2010. You're off by almost a decade.

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/tedbetts tedbetts

            An economy doesn't start in one data set, bud. A good solid economy takes years to build with good economic management and good fiscal policies. Without question Chretien benefitted from Mulroney, but he did actually eliminate the defiict, created a surplus, cut taxes, cut spending, implemented bank regulatory changes, paid down the debt.

            In two and a half years, Harper reversed ALL of that. And THEN the recession hit.

            Had Harper been in government much longer before the recession, we would be as bad off as Britain.

          • s_c_f

            That's not true. All those countries listed went off the deep end since 2007. But Harper is the exception. You are incapable of reading a graph.

            Not only that, the NY Time article and this whole blog post is about the fact that Cameron has changed things from bad to good in the last few months. Not decade. Months.

            Partisans like you are bizarre.

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/tedbetts tedbetts

            You are incapable of understanding the basics of an economy. If a country goes into the red, that is current fiscal policy. If the economy has not dipped nearly as much as others, that is longer term economic planning.

            What Cameron shows is that your current fiscal policy is important. But decisions made over months have not born any fruits yet. In fact, they haven't even been fully implemented yet.

            Partisans like you are bizarre.

          • Orson Bean

            "Partisans like you are bizarre. "

            Pot meet kettle.

          • s_c_f

            if a country goes into the red, that is current fiscal policy. If the economy has not dipped nearly as much as others, that is longer term economic planning.

            That is one of the dumbest things I've read today, and I've seen a lot of dumb comments. I mean, whoa, that is complete nonsense, both logically, practically, and pretty well every way you look at it.

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/tedbetts tedbetts

            And that folks, is all we need to know about scf's deep understanding of fiscal and economic policy.

            The defence rests.

          • http://intensedebate.com/profiles/harebell harebell

            You have a truly child like understanding of the time scales involved in large financial and political decisions.
            These huge decisions are like trying reverse a super tanker at sea. You have to slow down, stop, change gear, start speed up before stuff is altered.
            The measures that helped Canada fare a little better than others were things like not allowing banks in Canada to over extend themselves as did their ilk to the South. The Con/cons wanted to allow them lee-way to do this if I remember correctly.
            Why anybody thinks the modern conservative is fiscally responsible is totally beyond me. The reverse has been shown to be the case in N America recently. Big spending Reagan and Bushes, big spending Harper and all the while refusing to actually find a source for the money. Those on the modern right truly like others to pay for their lifestyles.

  • hosertohoosier

    Its a matter of circumstance – big budget cutters tend to follow big spenders. Rae begat Harris, Trudeau/Mulroney begat Chretien, Reagan begat Clinton, and Brown begat Cameron, etc. Canada has an entirely different fiscal situation from that of Britain today.

    • Brian

      …and at this rate, Harper will beget Rae to complete the cycle.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/OntarioTown OntarioTown

    Cons supporters getting excited by Cameron – talk about an elitist:

    Cameron is a descendant of King William IV and his mistress Dorothea Jordan. This illegitimate line consists of five direct generations of women on his father's maternal side starting with Lady Elizabeth FitzClarence, William and Jordan's sixth child, through to the fifth female generation Enid Agnes Maud Levita. His father's maternal grandmother, Stephanie Levita, was a sister of Duff Cooper, 1st Viscount Norwich, Conservative statesman and author, husband of Lady Diana Cooper (daughter of the 8th Duke of Rutland) the actress and society celebrity. His paternal grandmother, Enid Levita, who married secondly a younger son of 1st Baron Manton, was the niece of Sir Cecil Levita, Chairman of London County Council in 1928.

    • Gaunilon

      This may come as a surprise to you, but most "Cons supporters" really don't give a flying leap about the ancestry of a political candidate.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/OntarioTown OntarioTown

        Ya, right. They only get concerned when they want to bash someone for being an elitist, have an interesting ancestry.

        The double-standard is appalling.

        If Cons don't really care about, then let them have the integrity to not attack someone for it.

  • Anon 001

    And a year from now, Inkless will write about the rebirth of New Labour under David Milliband, as the Cameron/Clegg coalition crumbles under their combined activism.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/OntarioTown OntarioTown

    Cameron – elitist Part 2:

    Through the Mantons, Cameron also has kinship with Alexander Fermor-Hesketh, 3rd Baron Hesketh, Conservative Chief Whip in the House of Lords 1991-93 and Treasurer of the Conservative Party from 2003. Cameron's maternal grandfather was Sir William Mount, 2nd Baronet, an army officer and the High Sheriff of Berkshire, and Cameron's maternal great-grandfather was Sir William Mount, 1st Baronet, Conservative MP for Newbury 1918-1922. Lady Ida Matilde Alice Feilding, Cameron's great-great grandmother, was the daughter of William Feilding, 7th Earl of Denbigh, a courtier and Gentleman of the Bedchamber. He is also a great × 4 great-nephew of James Hanway Plumridge.

    If you think he's blue blood – you should see his wife's pedigree.

    Cons hate elitists? Hmmm…….

    • Olaf

      I was hoping you'd provide a sequel hot on the heels of Macleans comment thread summer blockbuster "Cons supporters getting excited by Cameron – talk about an elitist". Part 1 was a real cliffhanger… I was left thinking: "Hmmm, now I wonder if David Cameron has any kinship with Alexander Fermor-Hesketh, 3rd Baron Hesketh." Lo and behold he does! Riveting! I must admit though, I liked the first part better. I really didn't see Enid Agnes Maud Levita coming, that was quite a plot twist.

      • Crit_Reasoning

        I was also stunned by the revelation that Cameron's great-great-great-great uncle was James Hanway "Fruitbat" Plumridge, the Crimean War Criminal. And what about Cameron's wife's pedigree? Is there a Part 3 coming down the pipe?

        • Olaf

          We can only hope OntarioTown has the material to continue. I'm thinking the "Cameron – Elitist" series will like many others start to run out of steam after Part III, and may have to desperately turn to prequels: "King William IV, you'll recall, was the 38th great grandnephew of a guy who one time shook hands with the royal squire to Clotaire Ier le Vieux, son of Clovis, direct descendant of the founder of the Frankish Merovingian dynasty Chlodio le Chevelu…"

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/OntarioTown OntarioTown

        Wow, you use sarcasm for a response. I was trying to point out that the Cons attack elitists and people with an interesting ancestry unless it's one of their own.

        Double-standard anyone?

        • http://intensedebate.com/people/BGLong BGLong

          Just a shame that Lord Black doesn't have enough funds left to buy himself some of that.

        • Olaf

          Couldn't you have done it without subjecting readers to a full peerage assessment? I wasn't mocking your point, only your presentation of it, which apparently required two parts.

          • http://intensedebate.com/people/OntarioTown OntarioTown

            Okay, you need the last word – you've got it.

            You weren't forced to read it.

            Two parts – because the "submit" wouldn't take in one part. Sorry about that.

  • Reader

    s_c_f likes graphs? Her's an interesting graph, "How [UK] Parties Have Shifted":

    [ http://www.politicalcompass.org/images/enPartiesT... ]

  • Olaf

    I wonder if the British left is squealing incessantly about each and every single government entitlement being taken away from them. I remember when Harper tried to make a few cuts at the margins during his first term, and the opposition/media response was invariably "Harper hates the group this program was intended to benefit, however tenuous the link between intention and effect". It was remarkably effective.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/NorthernPoV NorthernPoV

      effective?
      didn't stop the Harper thugs on their vandalizing rampage through the civil society we used to enjoy

      just like Harris in Ontario – wreck everything and bankrupt the gov't so that it can never really get fixed

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/Gaunilon Gaunilon

        I think you're confusing the CPC with the G20 protesters.

        • sbt

          And Mike Harris with Bob Rae.

  • Olaf

    didn't stop the Harper thugs on their vandalizing rampage through the civil society we used to enjoy

    Haha. Get a grip, man.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/john_g2708 john g

    How about this? Cameron flew Business Class on British Airways (not even First Class) for his meeting with Obama on the BP spill in the Gulf.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Inkless Inkless

      I actually think that's just dumb. In a closed-off compartment of a military or government flight, working with a half-dozen staffers, he could have got nearly a full day's work done. And he's the prime minister of a country twice the size of Canada: a day of his time is worth an awful lot more than the cheap economy of a business-class ticket.

      • http://intensedebate.com/people/john_g2708 john g

        Well the paper indicated that the charter they usually take costs about 300K pounds, which is probably more than his annual salary, so I'm thinking the one day of his lost productivity does not equal that. And I'm sure he got some stuff done on the flight.

        But I agree that this is just an optics game and probably should not be done by world leaders, but more based on the security ramifications and potential inconvenience to the poor schmucks that have the misfortune of having randomly booked the same flight and going through the no doubt much more rigorous security protocols than the lost productivity argument.

  • NiceGuy

    Considering that the commie media and eastern Canadian establishment nearly lost their collective mind over the making voluntary of the long-census, what would happen if the PM tried to tear apart the bloated bureacracy in Ottawa? The conservatives didn't want to do a stimulus package, but were goaded into one at the behest of the idiotic opposition and media – at the threat of a coup de tete no less. Then, these same slimeballs decry 'overspending' as if their bleating never happened. Once the PM has his majority you will see real conservatism in action as the last vestiges of Trudaupian socialism are torn away…

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