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Something more effective

by Aaron Wherry on Wednesday, September 1, 2010 1:04pm - 0 Comments

Ken Boessenkool, a former advisor to Stephen Harper, and economist Jack Mintz take up the census debate in search of something somehow better.

Recently, the U.S. dropped its every-five-year long-form census in favour of annual surveys to provide up-to-date information for policy analysis. European governments are using various databases to improve analysis without requiring long census forms that are collected only once every five or 10 years.

For all these reasons, the debate over the mandatory long-form census is overdue and seeking a replacement is timely. If anything, the government should create a task force to look at new ways of collecting information that would serve Canadians better and provide more data for evidence-based public policy.

As has been noted, moving to the sort of system used in some European countries would raise other concerns about the privacy of citizens. As for the United States, it has indeed replaced its decennial (once every ten years) long-form census with an ongoing “American Community Survey.” Here is a copy of the 2010 ACS. You’ll perhaps notice that it includes 48 area of inquiry, including some of the same questions Messrs Bossenkool and Mintz lament as needlessly invasive in the Canadian context. The ACS is also mandatory. Those who willfully neglect to participate are potentially subject to a fine of as much as $5,000 (ten times the maximum for not filling out the census in Canada).

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  • Dot

    An analagous situation to voluntary long form census – the "thumbs" scoring system at Macleans. Biased. Voluntary. Meaningless. To anyone with some common sense-Ignored.

    [just watch as the negatives pile up]

    • TedTylerEzro

      I voted you up just to spite you.

    • http://intensedebate.com/people/Ottawa_Centrist Ottawa_Centrist

      So long as Maclean's increase their blog traffic by 1/3, the bias and voluntary concerns would be eliminated by having an increase in the number of biased people voluntarily voting.

      Trust me, I took a few math classes in high school.

    • hosertohoosier

      Maybe they could thumbs ups from less represented groups more heavily, in order to reduce the bias.

      • hosertohoosier

        Bah. Maybe the could weight thumbs ups from less represented groups more heavily, in order to reduce the bias.

  • Olaf

    I think the authors fail to take into account the indisputable fact that the mandatory long form census is the most perfect, invaluable, and irreplaceable institution in this fine country of ours. It is part of our heritage, a national treasure, and the source of all that's good and holy. It is like the sun, providing us with light and warmth, once extinguished never to shine again.

    I remember sitting on my father's lap as a child and listening to him tell stories about the twelve labours of the census, and how Canada wouldn't be able to function without it. He told about a Canada without the census, a yarn about hospitals being built in the middle of nowhere, buses driving needlessly into ghost towns, half-built bridges leading to nowhere, ethnic groups funding their own festivals, and (I still tear up a bit at this point) housework distributed unevenly. I found the stories a bit far fetched, but I've been browbeaten recently into recognizing their essential truth.

    • Dot

      Sounds like Ralph Klein's Alberta.

      • Olaf

        Bite your tongue. No human society prior or since has achieved such collective perfection as Alberta in the 1990s. It was like Pandora before the humans showed up.

        • John.K

          Pandora WAS human….

      • Dave

        Or Mike Harris' Sheppard Line.

    • Mike T.

      Is your dad Tony Clement? Because he lies a lot.

    • Lord Kitchener's Own

      No, no, that's the AGRICULTURAL Census you're thinking of it.

      It's the AGRICULTURAL Census that is like the sun. Shining. Warm. And not to be touched.

  • John D

    I wonder if this is Team Harper sending out a feeler. Boessenkool is a political operative and not really interested in advancing public policy. The 'European Database' approach is not even worth discussing. Canadians would not put up with the privacy implications, the provinces wouldn't be willing to part with the necessary data, and data quality would vary between provinces.

    • Jenn_

      I'm telling you, the all-encompassing database is the plan–and we'll do it in the name of FREEDOM, damn your eyes!

      Some day, I'd like to be able to type FREEDOM not all in caps. But that's the day it will mean "able to be free" and it hasn't meant that for some time.

  • Emily

    I think they picked a base-pleaser at random, ran into an unexpected public buzz-saw and are now trying to find a way out of it, without seeming to back down.

    Real men don't back down, and all that jazz.

    • Dave

      No, real men write fundraising letters. Lots of them.

  • Standing By

    If it means not going ahead with the wrecking of the census, then I'm prepared to be pleased with that trial balloon.

  • BGLong

    Nah, they're just floundering around trying to figure out what a pretense at being "reasonable"
    might look like and trying that. But I can read lips and what they're really saying is "tax cuts".

  • Amateur Hour

    Ken Boessenkool selling shinola again?
    Say it ain't so.

  • Thwim

    Shorter Mintz & Boessenkool: Please change the channel until the gov't has had a chance to complete it's self-destruction.

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