Colby Cosh

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MS liberation: in defence of Saskatchewan

by Colby Cosh on Thursday, September 2, 2010 11:05am - 0 Comments

You all know I’m sceptical of Paolo Zamboni’s vascular hypothesis about multiple sclerosis, so allow me to express support for Saskatchewan health minister Don McMorris, who is defending his province’s right to fund research into the idea. I didn’t like Saskatchewan’s politically-driven funding decision, but I don’t think there is any reason to believe that the funding cannot be useful even if the hypothesis is true. That seems to be what the MS Society is suggesting when it argues that Saskatchewan can’t possibly muster up a large enough sample to conduct a useful test of the hypothesis. From today’s Globe:

Yves Savoie, president of the MS Society of Canada, said a true clinical trial must be conducted at more than one institution and in more than one province. Because MS is so variable, “it will require well over 1,000 participants that will be recruited through a number of centres,” he said. “A single province or a single site would simply not be a way to get to the definitive answers that we all want.”

Logic and experience suggest an obvious rejoinder: a single trial, however large, won’t be the way to get an answer either. Pure statistical power is a good thing, but so is experimenter diversity. If there is any merit in the Zamboni hypothesis, the scientific community is likely to arrive at a consensus about it on the basis of many different kinds of tests, some of them modest in scale, most of them performed independently. There is danger in Savoie’s apparent insistence on a One True Trial and in his gratuitous, pre-emptive criticism of what Saskatchewan is doing: he is inadvertently encouraging the Zamboni believers’ cherished conviction that they are being ganged up on by a conspiratorial clique that desires a monopoly on truth.

And if the MS Society thinks a single, giant experimentum crucis is advisable, it would be fair to ask why it isn’t advocating one, instead of funding CCSVI research in dribs and drabs. The fact is that piecemeal accumulation is the usual means of accumulating scientific knowledge. There’s no unitary global Science Court where hypotheses can be hauled in for exoneration or hanging.

We don’t really need a trial with a sample size of thousands to confidently confirm or disconfirm the most basic claim of Dr. Zamboni: that an MS diagnosis can conceivably be verified, or falsified, from nothing more than medical images of a patient’s head and neck veins. As I’ve suggested before, we could arrive at a good initial answer to that question quickly and inexpensively. There is no sense in going ahead with inquiries into causality, or into the effectiveness of any particular therapeutic regime, until we have first established that yes, there is such a thing as “chronic cerebrospinal venous insufficiency”. Trap your unicorn first, then study its anatomy.

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  • Larry

    "We don’t really need a trial with a sample size of thousands to confidently confirm or disconfirm the most basic claim of Dr. Zamboni: that an MS diagnosis can conceivably be verified, or falsified, from nothing more than medical images of a patient’s head and neck veins."

    There are MS patients turned away from so-called "liberation therapy" because they have no observable vein issues affecting blood flow. So it's not clear why this is a pre-requisite to doing clinical trials on the procedure itself.

    For people who do have constricted veins or some other veinous issue that affects blood flow away from the brain, does treatment of that specific problem help with their MS symptoms? Some people who have had it done say yes. Proper clinical trials into this question will tell us whether it's placebo or, if not, how many people can benefit.

    And whatever answer we get from that question will help MS patients. Either those with the applicable veinous issues will have a new treatment available locally, or they will know there's no point spending tens of thousands of dollars to go overseas for it.

  • Jmag

    These nitwits at the MS Society should really talk to each other. Here we have Yves Savoie claiming that we need 1,000 participants in a nationwide trial, blah blah blah, while over at the CBC website we have a quote from Jock Murray who is still claiming we shouldn't do anything due to the Swedish and Germany trials, which, despite being proven to be flawed, were very, very small trials that were not done correctly. I'm still not sure why we have to get the permission of the MS Society for any trials – it's obvious they don't know much about MS or they would have cured it by now. But beyond all that, it appears that we have a whole bunch of people who have a vein problem – why can't we just fix that for them using the proper professionals, not a bunch of drug pushing neuros.

  • Jmag

    This whole mess is unbelievable and tragic for those with MS. It's time for our leaders to do what's right – tell the MS Society to get on board or go home. There are lots of compassionate, caring, professional doctors who would no doubt love to be involved in a national trial with a treatment arm in order that those with MS can actually be helped, instead of being mocked and bullied by the MS Society and the so-called "experts" at CIHR.

  • soon2b liberated guy

    All I want is to be able to trade my crab drugs for the procedure. The RISK…REWARD ratio in favor of rewards. What monetary benefit would you be seeing by writing such rubish other than making yourself look like a fool. Like the premeir of saskatchewan said "this the right thing to do".

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  • Stewart_Smith

    I also found that quote in the Globe this morning to be very odd and wondered what the thinking was behind it. In a narrow sense, the statement is correct but does not go far enough: the definitive answers will only be arrived at when positive results are obtained in multiple countries. The question is should we be one of those countries?

  • http://www.acemedicine.com/ukcat/index.html UKCAT

    I’m not used to blogging and having material out there. Your site here is extremely informative and offers me with a lot more understanding as to making an effect when leaving comments. Please continue your posts and I can carry on and read all of them.

  • Sue

    A useful strategy is to appreciate that whenever Mr. Savoie opens his mouth, whatever follows is going to be self-serving.

  • gzuckier

    Of course, we do have a very large trial which sheds significant doubt on this therapy; the very large number of people who have been diagnosed over history with problems with veinous drainage from their brains; none of whom have ever showed any signs of developing MS. So, if there is any merit in the Zamboni therapy, which there may be, it can’t be due to opening blocked veins for drainage.

  • Plilly

    That doesn't make any sense. Are you serious?

  • s_c_f

    Plilly is right, that makes no sense. Zamboni has found dozens of people with veinous drainage problems who also have MS.

  • Phil

    So give the MS sufferers with venous drainage problems the same treatment that is available to non MS patients with the same problems. Why discriminate against them because they have MS? The connection with MS would be a moot point then, wouldn't it?

    There are enough patients reporting significant alleviation of symptoms to warrant serious investigation. The issue here I believe is not science vs nonscience; it is protocol vs empiricism.

  • Kim

    I wish all governments would get on board with this great new treatment for the people who suffer with this debilitating disease. If any of our politicians had to live and walk one day or even maybe one week in MS sufferers shoes, I bet we would have the funding and approval to have this procedure done! Come on Canada, wake up!

  • Phil_King

    For once I disagree with you Stew.

    Given the number of people clammering for this treatment, the question is: Why WOULDN'T we be one of those countries?

    After all it's my understanding that Canadians have a disproportionate number of MS sufferers per capita compared to many countries.

  • Phil_King

    Besides, it could be a side effect rather than a cause. A side effect with nasty consequences, like heart attack and stroke.

    And I should point out that no one yet knows what actually causes MS anyways, only what the disorder results in, and many experts believe there could be multiple causes.

    Why we wouldn't want to study that with so many people clammering to join a study is beyond me.

  • Stewart_Smith

    LOL, I just said it was the question… we agree on the answer!

  • Phil_King

    So we agree… again? LOL

    Aw hell, I don't know why I even bother commenting anymore. You've got a better reputation score, write more eloquently and based on the picture you're better looking than me too. So now I suspect you're taller, make more money and probably have a hotter girl/boy friend than I do too!

    I want to hate you, I really do, but I just…can't…stop…agreeing…with…you. LOL

  • madeyoulook

    I bet you're right. Which would be a shame, because really dumb political decisions get made sometimes when a politician is too close to the issue to be objective.

  • Nina

    Sue, of course, Mr. Savoie has a conflict of interest – his $450,000 salary – he wants it for life. With CCSVI there would be billions of dollars saved by provincial health departments in the future. Of course, the potential loss of such major drug revenues is of considerable concern to those that have substantial financial ties to the pharmaceutical companies that manufacture and market the current MS drugs. t is big losses for NMSS, NEUROLOGISTS, DRUG COMPANIES, WHEELCHAIR AND WALKER COMPANIES – AND SO MUCH MI HOPE ALL SEE THE REAL BIG PICTURE. WE MUST KEEP FIGHTING. CCSVI PROCEDURES ARE POPULATING ALLL OVER THE GLOBE-

  • Wendy

    Also, truly great decisions too. This is a case of a scientific body (CIHR) not being scientific, but protecting its interests and a politition who is circumventing this…

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