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One more for the no side?

by Aaron Wherry on Thursday, September 2, 2010 10:56am - 0 Comments

On the basis of his comments last night to the CBC and CP, the NDP’s Charlie Angus would seem at the moment to be moving in the general direction of preparing to maybe vote against Bill C-391.

Dennis Bevington, meanwhile, repeats his intent to vote to scrap the registry.

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  • Olaf

    the NDP’s Charlie Angus would seem at the moment to be moving in the general direction of preparing to maybe vote against Bill C-391

    Does Charlie Angus even have a horse? Because if not, he really has no demonstrated credibility on the issue.

    • LynnTO

      The Old Spice guy has a horse. I believe everything he says.

  • TedTylerEzro

    Well, left wing urbanites generally get their way 99% of the time, so they will probably get their way on the long gun registry as well.

    • ChrisWPG

      If you mean the majority gets there way, that's usually how a democracy works.

      • AT1

        This might be nitpicking, but our democracy is actually based on the distribution of parliamentary seats, which are only loosely affiliated with population distribution.

  • ChrisWPG

    Once again, I'm wondering if Wherry read the articles he's mentioning. From the article…

    "Bevington said he could not comment on "something that hasn't been seen yet" but that he would wait and see what the party proposed. "

    Sounds like a wait and see, not a No vote to me.

    • Crit_Reasoning

      Bevington was referring to Layton's proposed compromise when he said he would "wait and see". He also repeated his intent to vote to scrap the registry, just as Wherry said.

  • JamesHalifax

    I guess now we'll see if Charlie Angus has the balls to back up what his constituents want….or if he caves to the pressure from Jack.

    Adding some weasel words and declaring the registry "fixed" will never change the fact that it is absolutely useless in preventing real crime.

    • MostlyCivil

      Why you hate the troops? Oops, sorry, I meant the RCMP?

      • LynnTO

        RCMP is paramilitary, and they group their cadets into troops. It's not far off.

  • Wascally Wabbit

    It’s beginning to look like the Jack and the NDP are going to win the messaging battle – making Harper and his gang look like dinosaurs – and Ignatieff look like an opportunist playing Jack’s dilemma for cheap partisan advantage! At least, that’s the way I read it!
    http://www.themarknews.com/articles/2225-layton-p…

    • Standing By

      I think Harper saw this mostly as another way of thumping the opposition, and probably figured Iggy's caucus would be all over the map.

      Looks like he miscalculated on this big time. The NDP stands to lose some urban support which will go to the Libs.

      Bad for Jack, bad for Steve. Advantage Iggy.

    • WDM

      I think the Liberals have a pretty distinct advantage actually. Provided they actually follow through and all vote the same way (Hi maternal health!). Compromise would be ideal, but how do you amend a registry after you allowed it to be scrapped?

    • AT1

      Wascally, I think you might be alone in your opinion that there is anything winnable for the NDP in this decision. More likely, it will divide them along urban/rural seats (as most people predict).

  • bettie

    Last night on Power and Politics, Charlie Angus looked mad. What he said made no sense… it was incoherent. Even Evan said he didn't know that he was meaning. I guess Charlie is the quinessential politician, able to say many words without anyone knowing what he means.

  • no more non-partisan

    He was very specific when he said he wouldn't "stand with" Garry Breitkreuz. Sounds to me like he'll be absent or abstain.

  • http://scottdiatribe.canflag.com/ Scott_Tribe

    An unofficial count from one of my Liberal friends on the HIll has it as 149 to save the registry, 148 against, and 8 undecideds. (if all persons presumed to vote the way they do show up and vote in that manner).

  • tono-bungay

    It's all in the timing. Support for scrapping to the registry hit its peak several months ago and has been dropping ever since. I predict that by the time the vote is taken, the "scrappers" will have lost the lead in popular opinion. If the vote had happened back then, Liberals would have seemed ineffective and the NDP would not have had spotlights on them. By catching the wave at the right time, Ignatieff gets courage and principle points for having acted at a time when the position was unpopular, and somehow ensures that Layton gets the blame if it fails without getting any credit if it succeeds. It took a while but Ignatieff has finally influenced an event.

  • AT1

    Their seats are far apart so he won't have to no matter which way he votes!
    Moreover, according to parliamentary procedure, the MPs stand sequentially to be counted, so he would never be technically in the position to stand "with" Garry Breitkreuz.

  • WDM

    Does this include the departures of Mark and Bevilacqua? Not that it matters, as their votes cancel each other out, just trying to figure how many NDP votes are locked in to vote in favour of scrapping. 144 Conservatives, the 2 Independents, Bevington seems locked in, as does Stoffer.

  • http://scottdiatribe.canflag.com/ Scott_Tribe

    It includes the (3) vacancies, yes.

    It does not take into account the NDP supposed re-think on the registry mentioned in the Star article today.

  • anonimous

    if charlie angus changes his vote knowing that poeple from the north are in favor of scraping the registry poeple who voted for him i will never vote for him or ndp again in my life.

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