Tim Hortons’ extra-large trouble trouble

The bitter battle inside the country’s favourite coffee shop

by macleans.ca on Tuesday, September 7, 2010 9:55am - 0 Comments

Cyril Garland claims that the company has resorted to “harassment” and issued repeated “threats and reprisals.” Hortons has already declined to renew the licence on one of his stores and “other franchisees are, quite rightly, fearful of the same consequence should they express any sort of adverse opinion.” Arch Jollymore has endured even worse (if the evidence is accurate). It was during an Advisory Board gathering in July 2008, right after he filed his suit, that he claims Paul House uttered his infamous threat: “If I had a gun, I’d shoot the bastard.” Jollymore also claims that a Toronto franchisee recently “suggested that I should be caused physical harm” for forcing owners to reveal their profit margins.

For the record, House has authored his own affidavit, but it is among thousands of pages of evidence that, like the profit margins, have yet to be filed by Tim Hortons.
In the meantime, the main players aren’t talking. Garland and Jollymore declined to be interviewed for this article. So did Graham Oliver and most of the other “concerned franchisees.” Those who did speak were brief. “I can only say that the Always Fresh system improved our profitability and has made our life much easier,” says Brent Gabbani, an owner from New Liskeard, Ont. Miles Mattatall—the Advisory Board member who wrote that Jollymore “has the same goals that we all do”—says he does “not know of any franchisee” who want to go back to the scratch baking days. “I personally have a great working relationship with TDL,” he told Maclean’s in an email. “And if I could buy more restaurants, I would.”

Head office isn’t granting interviews, either. David Morelli, Hortons’ director of public affairs, said the company will “politely decline” to comment while the case is still before the courts. However, Tim’s side of the story is laid bare in a publicly disclosed affidavit authored by David Clanachan, a long-time executive who oversaw the Always Fresh conversion.

“I truly believe that anyone with an appreciation of the Tim Hortons business model and the facts will conclude that the claim is completely baseless,” Clanachan wrote. “It is unsupported and unsupportable by the actual facts.”

Clanachan says every store owner—with the exception of Garland and Jollymore—understands that although the price of the frozen donuts are higher, franchisees have benefited from the convenience and the obvious labour savings. “Always Fresh Baking was and remains a business and economic success for every reasonably diligent franchisee,” he wrote. “The store margins have not been hurt by Always Fresh Baking. In fact, the margins are the same or better.” (Clanachan also denies that he or House ever told the owners that the new price of an unfinished donut would not exceed 12 cents.)

So why is Garland so adamant that the opposite is true? He is “an embittered franchisee” with “an unremittingly bad attitude,” Clanachan says. “We simply hear him out or read his memos and as politely as we can register disagreement and move on. Garland has major blind spots but he is not a stupid man and I am sure the situation is as frustrating to him as it is to us.”

And Jollymore? “As to why (if it is true) Jollymore hasn’t achieved labour savings when the average Ontario store owner has been able to, I can only say that it is likely that it stems from his abilities as a manager and a failure to follow the training provided with the necessary discipline,” he wrote.

Clanachan also addresses the issue that matters most to customers: the quality of the current donuts. Jollymore claims that the frozen versions have “a shorter shelf life,” and some do “not have the same aroma or taste.” Says Clanachan: “Our experience does not bear out this assertion.” To the contrary, he says Hortons has “received more positive comments about the aromas in the stores since Always Fresh Baking, since product is cooked more often.”

One man would certainly disagree: Ron Joyce. In his book, the Hortons founder writes that although the frozen donuts “have improved greatly” since they were first introduced, “they will never be as good as the fresh product we prepared completely in the stores.”

Near the end of his autobiography, Joyce also seems to foreshadow the current legal battle. “Since my departure in January 2001, senior management at Tim Hortons has begun altering its relationship with franchise owners by placing pressure on their margins,” he wrote. “When I owned the company, the number one customer of TDL was the restaurant owner. They were the backbone of the company; they were what made the system work. They are on the front lines, dealing face to face with the customer, and are therefore integral to the company’s success. Any change to that could have dramatic ramifications for the company in the long run.”

Like his cousin, Joyce declined an interview request. But Aileen O’Rafferty, the president of his charitable foundation, did pass along this message: “He still strongly believes in that statement and stands by it today.”

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  • ken

    Ron Joyce is basically jealous that Paul House was highly successful at building the business and supporting his franchisees. They didn't make the transition to par baking without the support of the vast majority of franchisees. So this is really about Ron and a few of his buds with nothing better to do. Hope it is thrown out quickly.

  • Debra

    I agree I don't know when it changed….but I don't buy it anymore as it tastes bland. I have switched to steeped tea.

  • fabian

    how could crap water be passed off as coffee for sooo long and make profit at it, amazing and I wish the general public would be a little more adventurous and try other chains for a change.

  • Andre

    I live in Brantford where Maidstone is located and it make,s me sick to
    even think of buying a par baked donut, how can they call their products fresh in B.C. or the East Coast provinces when their goods
    come,s from Ontario, people remember when you ordered a Dutchy
    you got real chunks of apple and boy they were huge, now they are half the size and cost more, and as far as the apple its a simulated product in which some day the health department may say causes cancer, who knows. Tim Hortons forgot us the
    consumers the one,s who made it what it is today, but not me I quit I refuse to eat food
    owed by a swiss company (Maidstone) greed will kill them I hope
    till then try a smaller chain heck you have your choice of blend there
    and their fresh donuts.

  • Calgary Rob

    No, there are plenty of people who think the only coffee worth drinking is so strong it will eat your guts on the way through. Turkish Coffee, Moroccan, etc. are all like Starbucks, Second Cup et al and should do for you just fine.

    For the rest of, (read: real people who don't like paying for crap) the choice is Tim's, which makes fine coffee, just the way we like it. *Yawn.* On my way there now….

  • Robert

    I think they should be forced to remove the "Always Fresh" from their media, is that not false advertising???? considering this crap they try to pass off as fresh tastes nothing like it did when everything was baked in store!!!

  • Bernie

    The frozen donut is a horrid invention, the nadir of baked goods. I tried them and can't stomach the over priced scrawny offering. The very claim that they are "Always Fresh" should be legally challenged. During the changeover I wrote to the Toronto Sun's Gary Dunford and he did a whole column plus reader follow up on the new apple fritter, a "squared and planed raisonless dutchie impregnated with applesauce". Krispy Kreme has stumbled, but Dunkin Donuts is in Quebec and I would love to see them here. If you want a good coffee Shell convenience stores, I'm not kidding, have a surprising product. The only knock, it's actually more expensive than Horton's. The drive thrus are the laziest, stupidest thing too, a waste of good fuel, but they do keep smokers from having to butt out.

  • SteverinoB

    Haven't had one of Tim's "donuts" since trying one just after the introduction of the frozen product. Simply a sad excuse for what once was a pretty decent product?

  • Jess

    it's not just the doughnuts either, this par bake system is taking over all the products. Next on the hit list are the muffins

  • Kelly

    I have worked for the company for more than 15 years. We used to have bakers mix water with bags of flavor and then fry them off. This is the "real baking" you all speak of. The baker would come in at midnight and bake donuts that could be on the shelves 18-24 hours later. I supose this is the "fresh baked" aspect you all speak of? Now we have to have a minimum of 16-17 hours of baking at a store per day your donut is never more than a few hours old. It is not cheaper. The bakers at my store are paid less per hour but they are making the same per week. Also, the only reason baker prefer the "old" way is because they made decent money in about 4 hours with little if any supervision. It is alot more work now.

    • Barbara

      Furthermore, if your boss told you that you were going to be making thousands less a year would you sit back and take it? I would not.

  • http://kensymes.com Ken Symes

    Anyone know what's happened to the hearing on the lawsuit? it was supposed to happen in November, but there's not a hint of news about it anywhere, not even in yesterday's quarterly stock updates.

    I'm very curious. Was it settled out of court? Was is there NO news at all about this important lawsuit?

  • Rose Higgs

    I purchased a large coffee last week and under the roll up the rim there was absolutely nothing written under it? I have been in touch by e-mail to Tim Hortons about this false advertising and have heard not one word from them. I find this very rude on their part, my family spends approx. $50 per week on coffee and we get NOTHING under the rim but try again, but to get not even that or even a chance to win something I find this unacceptable.

  • Kevin

    I go to Timmie's because there are not enough Coffee Times around and those that are are to far away. It is simply put a matter of convenience,I agree the fresh frozen preheated donuts,muffins,croissants and the rest are cardboard but there Chili is so good on a cold winters day (then again anything warm would be nice) I have had the displeasure of the breakfast wrap? Probably better if actually cooked? No comparison to Starbucks as I find Starbucks for lack of better wording *GROSS* no matter the blend. I DO agree MacDonald hit it on the head,there coffee is 10 out of 10 tastes like real roasted as coffee should. alas Timmie's does the advertising thus bringing in the rag tagged to those that think they are better than everyone else except when under the Timmie Dome.
    Is Timmie's truly a Canadian entity? I doubt it very much,It has however over the years become a Tradition and to some almost a Religion… I actually enjoy the corner store coffee more fist thing in the morning! A REAL eyeopener ;)
    If I may add Timmie's 20 years ago just one word Awesome,now is just a convenience… ho hum sip

  • Rick

    Tim's Donuts are not donuts if they are frozen then baked a real donut is made fresh and then fried thats a true donut also there coffee is never consistent one day haas to little sugar the next to much cream or to much of each dont they have automated cream and sugar dispensers to reduce waste from free pouring of milk and cream and using the spoon to add the sugar like back in the good days. obviously it doesnt work with the new technolgy the have, so they should just go back to the old ways with all the products because it all tasted better and no complaints.

  • andrew

    no one has mentioned that Tims is owned by Wendys……

  • ken

    lol thats sounds about right

  • robert

    well good morning all,its not the same any more.no need for a baker/decorator.my bro has been a baker a tims for 16 long years ,guess what he makes less now that he made back then yea hes finally over 10 dollars an hour WOW,thanks ontario for the minimum wages.lids are screwed,staff sucks,line ups are pathetic PAY YOUR BAKERS a desent wage 15.00

  • annoymous

    I am a tim horton worker and i can honestly say i HATE my job. Managers and district managers treat staff like there nothing. They dont listen to staff and only care about there bonus they get. They reward the "bad " staff with raises and special gifts and get pretty much whatever they want. As staff we are only allowed two medium coffees and thats only if we work more than 5 hours. If managers are having a bad day the store suffers. I want to leave my job but with the workforce the way it is right now theres nothing out there and i've been looking and applying everywhere.

  • Shana

    As a former long time Tim Hortons employee I watched that company go right down in it's "Quality". All the great Canadian aspects that we all grew to love about it are all since gone from that company….too bad. There product is just aful now!!!

  • guest

    All that seems to matter at Tim's is cheap and fast without any care for their employees. I refuse to pay them a dime and their coffee is crap.

  • Rozie

    I always check for the red neon sign when I drive by ….. =) Now that is a donut!!!

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