Tim Hortons’ extra-large trouble trouble

The bitter battle inside the country’s favourite coffee shop

by macleans.ca on Tuesday, September 7, 2010 9:55am - 0 Comments

Steve White CP /Christopher Stevenson/ Aaron Harris CP

On a recent Thursday morning, as thousands of Canadian coffee lovers waited in line for their daily fix of Tim Hortons, the company’s head office unveiled its latest quarterly earnings report. The figures confirmed—yet again—that when your brand is the closest thing to a national religion, filling the collection plate is never a problem.

Total revenue: $639.9 million. Total profit: $94.1 million.

That same morning, Aug. 12, Hortons executives made another lucrative announcement: the company had just sold its 50 per cent stake in Maidstone, the Brantford, Ont., bakery that mass-produces donuts and muffins for every “Tim’s” in the country. Originally launched as a joint venture in 2001, Maidstone now belongs to the Swiss food giant Aryzta AG, which paid a whopping $475 million for Hortons’ half of the operation (and has agreed to continue supplying the chain with fritters and biscuits until at least 2016).

For Tim’s shareholders, the deal is sweeter than a honey dip, as the company promised to pour every penny back into their pockets. For the rest of Hortons’ “shareholders”—those countless loyal customers whose ownership is strictly sentimental—the bottom line is this: your chocolate Timbit, a scrumptious ball of Canadiana, is now produced by a company from Switzerland. And it is still “Always Fresh” (i.e., frozen and reheated).

Tim’s regulars may have a hard time swallowing the news that their maple dip is no longer produced under the Maple Leaf. As national symbols go, a Hortons donut is second only to a Hortons coffee. But Timmy’s selling baked goods from a freezer? That’s standard operating procedure, and has been for quite some time.

Yes, it was certainly a scandal back in 2003, when Hortons co-founder Ron Joyce confirmed the truth: that the company he built (and had recently left) replaced its in-store deep fryers with frozen globs of dough trucked in from a factory. “This is not a philosophy that I would have embraced if I still owned the company,” he famously boasted. One Hortons spokeswoman, convinced that she could stop the unflattering headlines, famously told a reporter that “until I confirm or deny anything, it simply doesn’t exist.”

It did exist, of course. And the backlash was swift. (Joyce’s words were especially damaging. “I’ve tried them,” he said of the new donuts. “And they’re certainly not the same.”) In time, though, most people eventually forgot—or simply stopped caring—where their honey crullers came from. Truth be told, many customers still have no idea that the donuts on display have to be defrosted.

But that is about to change. In the coming weeks, Tim’s devoted disciples will receive a very fresh reminder about just how much their donuts have evolved. Hortons’ historic decision to go frozen is now at the heart of a proposed $1.95-billion class action lawsuit that has exposed a bitter—and very personal—battle inside the country’s favourite coffee shop. Scheduled for a hearing in November, the high-stakes case pits store owners against senior executives, store owners versus each other, and even relative against relative. And no matter how many spokespeople try to control the message, the spat is sure to have some patrons pining for the old days, when the smell of deep-fried Dutchies hung in the air at their local shop.

Officially, the case is about a few disgruntled franchisees who claim their profits are shrinking because the company, via Maidstone, is charging “inflated” prices for those frozen goodies. But flip through the court file—through thousands of pages of exhibits and affidavits—and a much deeper storyline emerges: an old-fashioned power struggle between those who are still loyal to Ron Joyce, and those who replaced him at the top.

The lead plaintiff is a Burlington, Ont., store owner named Archibald Jollymore, Joyce’s former executive vice-president (and his cousin). One of Jollymore’s primary targets is Paul D. House, Joyce’s successor as president (and a man who garnered zero praise in Joyce’s recent autobiography). Both men have different philosophies, to say the least. House and his colleagues claim Jollymore is a poor businessman, and if his Hortons outlet is truly losing money, it has nothing to do with frozen products. Jollymore claims he has been “intimidated and bullied” by head office, and that the executive chairman personally threatened his life. “If I had a gun,” House allegedly said, “I’d shoot the bastard.”

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  • Alvaro

    Tim Horton's…Isn't that owned by an American company? Wendy's.
    And the baked goods really are gross at.

  • http://twitter.com/DavidKole @DavidKole

    Tim Horton's donut and baked pastry products have gotten increasingly disgusting over the last 5 years. Whatever that liquid sugar crap they are spraying all over them is during the baking process has made them so unappealing; as a result my family hasn't bothered much with purchasing anything other than a coffee or tea once in a while. Even the coffee has no consistent taste half the time. McDonald's does a far better job of cheap, chain made coffee.

    Given the fact I now know they are not contributing to Canadian business success by selling out to a Swiss company I am even MORE inclined to search out the smaller, local and homegrown bakeries where I live and spend my money there instead.

  • binky

    The more I hear about the new & improved TimCorp, the less this Canadian feels any loyalty to whatever giant faceless conglomerate owns Wendy's & Tims and whatever else. Instead? Buy local– support your local coffee-shops & restaurants, franchises, mom-pop outfits, and to heck with the new Wal-Tims, if they want to act like just another bad corporate citizen sucking up dollars from we the sheeple, and treating their workers like rubbish.

    • http://webshared.ws/ Direct Download

      Anyways, Tim Hortons has always been about distribution in a closed loop system. They're about selling product to franchisees at a substantial profit. Brilliant really. But it's no surprise that they chose to close the loop and profit directly from the baked goods.

  • gall

    omg it is only coffee and doughnuts !!!!not life threatening !!!1

  • WelcomeToSkimHortons

    make your coffee at home you lazy and environment destructive bastards…

  • Bonnie S

    Forget the problems at Tim Horton's. The best doughnuts in the world come from Donuts Now in Exeter ,Ontario. I think I feel a road trip In the near future. It's just north of the Timmie's. Hmmm?

  • velvetjesus

    how wonderful, a big american company found a way to replace skilled workers, so they can make more money. and owners oppose a lawsuit because they don't want to come across as "wealthy, greedy people." but if you're not wealthy, greedy people, i doubt you'd be trying to hide what you're earning. i'll tell you what i earn, about $30 or $40 thousand a year. SFA. i really don't know if i can ever go to tim horton's again.

  • 9989765452

    Well this article has incorrect information. The article states "Maidstone, the Brantford, Ont., bakery that mass-produces donuts and muffins for every "Tim's" in the country." This is not true as Maidstone Bakeries does not produce any muffins. Maidstone Bakeries produces Donuts, Timbits, Home Style Buns, Croissants, Danishes, and Cinnamon Rolls.

  • Tim

    This MORON, HATE mongral, doesn't know the Jollymores at all. I worked, and my children worked for the Jollymores all through there high school and university years and still do on a part time bases when needed. As far as I can remember their stores were frequently rated by the Tim Horton head office as top performers. A result of hard dedicated workers and management. Do your homework before shooting off your STUPID mouth. The Jollymores are wonderful loving people how dare you compare them to such. YOUR a Disgrase.

    • NB*

      @ Tim: Relax. "Steve" is unaware of two things, or 'he' wouldn't have posted that. 1. Your posts can be traced to your ISPN, and therefore are not anonymous. 2. "Steve" offensively libelled thew Jollymores by comparing them to Nazis, and could be sued.

  • chef rosie

    I can't believe that after knowing that what you are eating was made in some factory thousands of miles away and not even prepared by a cook or baker, that you would still even consider calling it a donut etc. There is no comparison to deep frying and making homemade style donuts to this crap that is frozen.Why have the customer's standards changed so much?Because is it super cheap? It is sad to think that today in 2010, that people still accept this mediocre attempt at baking to be normal.I bet kids today think that Tim Horton's actually makes donuts that taste like donuts!

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/Silverhairspeaks?feature=mhum Silverhair

    I am in shock! I missed the memo about all of this!
    In this age when Canada seems to be selling itself off (to the Americans and other Foreign Interests) piece by piece, I try to stick to buying Canadian, from Canadian companies.
    I had no idea that Timmy's was no longer Canadian (yes, I think I was living under a rock at that time).
    They've lost me.

  • adam d

    tim hortons is horrible tasting crap, always fresh my a$#

  • BLazer

    Your rignt for the head office, but the franchisee, all the profit come from the sale of bakery and coffee. In respond of a writer, the cost per unit doesn't count the labor cost. In the article, it's said that it's not a big step, but think about it on every donut that they sale now compare to the past it's about 8 cents les profit. IT'S HUGE

  • Jim

    Bakers are not paid enough, and Tims was and is like the rest out there. You get paid by the bake, not the hour. If something broke like a mixer or fryer you didn't get paid more because it took you longer. You get paid by the night's bake.

    • Metalhead25

      at tim hortons you get paid by the hour for the bake. i worked there and they gave me 2 choices. get paid 1.50 more an hour and get no tips or get paid like the rest of the workers and get included in tips….i took the tips and made WAY more than if i had taken bakers wage.

  • Ben

    I’m ok with the owners being wealthy. But not with buying degraded quality baking. It was great before. Now it’s disappointing. The brand still seems strong-but I don’t find myself loving it anymore. The sandwiches and soups dropped in quality too. At one point my dad asked why their packaged coffee tasted different than what was served at the store: they said it was because the coffee is relabeled Maxwell House.

  • Jaygee

    …and soon, Timbits made in China.

  • Guest

    I used to love going to TH cfor coffee then the coffee changed, I now go elsewhere but visit them for a donut fix once in a while.

    We ordered a chocolate milk and were served a dairy milk product – yikes – it was horrible. It is not in all TH but we always ask is it real chocolate milk?

    I have written to TH a few times to say good things like chocolate/coconut donuts should be in all stores or please eliminate bring back chocolate milk – I have received no answer – I guess they are not interestedin customer opinion

  • Mark

    Check out http://www.thetdlgroupltd.com which is the name of the company that owns Tim Hortons. read about the group of former and current franchisees who are gathering to share the truth of what this company is all about. Very interesting site that I cannot believe exists??

  • Normajeanne

    Here we go again. A truly Canadian company selling out to another company in another country (Chocolate Tim bits from Switzerland)) to line their pockets with more mulla while their staff make minimum wage

  • Rufus T. Firefly

    Does anyone know if Dunkin' is made fresh or like Tims?

    Personally, I never quite understood what was so good about their coffee. I drink espresso myself and never miss a chance to grab one at an Italian bar.

    I tried a Tims coffee to see what the fuss was all about. My Lord, tasteless, dirty water mixed in with some mud.

  • Randy Roach

    No, Starbucks uses battery acid

  • Rich

    I hate their coffee! It is very weak. McDonald and A&W have better coffee!

  • Mike G

    I agree with you – its terrible coffee. As for those stupid lids that pop up and hit you on the nose, thats enough of a reason to drink STARBUCKS.

    • Visitor

      Mike, I couldn't make up my mind on whether to give thumbs up or down to your comment, so decided to write a comment instead. Agreed completely with the lids comment: hate them. However, there's no excuse for drinking Starbucks… it's criminal that they call that coffee…

  • George

    Anything that is frozen and then re-heated in any way, as opposed to being baked from scratch, is by definition not fresh, as we usually understand that term. If "always fresh" means "never stale," then it's not false advertising. However, everyone understands that "always fresh" means both "baked from scratch" and also "never stale." It is true that their coffee is always fresh if, as they claim, a new batch is made every 20 minutes. But fresh coffee is not necessarily good coffee, and Tim's coffee is not good.

    Since I've been eating Tim's muffins since the chain first began, I can vouch for the fact that they are significantly smaller than they were even a few years ago. At that time they were vastly overflowing the paper cup. Now they go just somewhat beyond the edge of the paper. This is typical of the modern trend to downsize the product and keep the price the same or even make it higher. So Tim's people are crooks, but run-of-the-mill crooks, just like other companies.

    One needn't go to rip-off-Starbuck's to get a good cup of coffee.Try McDonald's coffee (Yes, McDonald' s and no, I have no connection whatsoever to them) and you'll discover (or remember) what the taste of coffee is really like. Again Tim's has either gone to an inferior grade of coffee or they are watering down the coffee they now use…or both. I defy anyone to taste both McDonald's and Tim's coffee and tell me that Tim's is better. McDonald's coffee is 100% Arabica.That's the best stuff. I defy Tim's to make public what beans they use to make their coffee and how much of it they use per ounce of water. I'm sure the results would be embarrassing.

    The fact is that even if they are selling crap, their drive-through service is incredibly fast. So people grab a coffee and don't really think about whether or not it is any good. As long as it contains caffeine, it is fine. And going to Tim's is a habit. The fact is that you are getting the crap you are getting because a vast amount of market research has gone into showing that their methods make the biggest profit, if not for the franchisee, then for the corporation. These people are not stupid, folks! We are.

  • sunshine

    I know for a fact that a Tim Hortons make about 120 000$ in sales per month. Judging from the line ups at the the drive thru every morning – it's easy to see that there is big profit to be made in owning a franchise. It's also plain to see that people are addicted to the coffee – very addicted. Why don't they just make Tim Coffee at home?? Anyways, the donuts are really not fresh, leave them in the box till tomorrow and they will be hard as rock. Even when just bought they just taste hard. The coffee is awful, tastes so strong. It's unfortunate that money rules everything, quality and service are just not important to anyone anymore.

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