Beyond The Commons

Beyond The Commons

Beyond The Commons

Aaron Wherry covers all the goings-on in and around Parliament Hill. Follow Aaron on Twitter: @aaronwherry

Your fall preview

by Aaron Wherry on Tuesday, September 7, 2010 4:18pm - 0 Comments

Set the new shadow cabinet against the government’s frontbench, while keeping in mind the issues that have arisen these last few months, and one can piece together a general idea of how Question Period is to be played when the House returns in two weeks. And on the half dozen major files, the match-ups will be entirely new (and vaguely intriguing). To wit.

On finance—there’ll be an economic update shortly after Parliament returns—Jim Flaherty will now face Scott Brison. On infrastructure—the auditor general is due to table a report on the government’s stimulus program in October—Chuck Strahl will stand opposite John McCallum. On defence—including the purchase of those new fighter jets—Peter MacKay will take questions from Dominic LeBlanc.

Immigration pits Jason Kenney against Justin Trudeau (in what could be a wildly entertaining match-up). The environment matches Jim Prentice with Gerard Kennedy. Health will be contested by Leona Aglukkaq and Ujjal Dosanjh. Justice pits Rob Nicholson against Marlene Jennings (in what could be a wildly cross and grumpy match-up).

On seven important files then—the sort of stuff around which an election might eventually be fought—the Liberals have repositioned critics. Of the primary files, only foreign affairs (Bob Rae v. Lawrence Cannon), public safety (Mark Holland v. Vic Toews), human resources (Mike Savage v. Diane Finley) and agriculture (Wayne Easter v. Gerry Ritz) keep their previous dance partners.

Ralph Goodale moves to deputy leader, seemingly as the new lead on QP when Michael Ignatieff is away. John Baird had been—and may still be, though he’s officially moved to government house leader—Stephen Harper’s lead back-up, but the significance and particulars of that match-up will depend largely on how often the two leaders plan on being away from the House. It’s not implausible that Mr. Goodale and Mr. Baird could come to dominate the session, for better or worse.

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  • Emily

    We seem to have confused hockey and parliament.

    • Claudia Lemire

      It's our Nations favorite sport ; )

      • novagardener

        Sorry Claudia – I gave you a thumbs down. You're right but I and many I know hate Hockey

        • Emily

          There's only two ways to become famous in Canada, hockey or politics. We need our own Hollywood.

          • Claudia Lemire

            Hahaha, you guys!

          • Reverend_Blair

            Man, I'm tired of hockey. As a sport, it's less interesting than tossing cards into a hat. As a metaphor for pretty much anything, it's just stupid.

            That oughtta get me some thumbs down.

          • Blacktop

            I grew up on the West Coast (no ice until 1942) and so my heart was always with lacrosse (Salmonbellies often the Mann Cup Champs) ). So i never took to hockey and I don't know who called it Canada's sport because lacrosse was Canada's National Sport before hockey was invented. I say this even though my grandfather was one of the early players (if not among the first) in Ontario. But then to Emily, what the hell has that got to do with anything? Or was it because the only thing these guys talked about around the hot stove was hockey and politics.?

          • Emily

            Canada has two official sports: hockey and lacrosse. Look it up.

            Hockey and parliament get confused though.

            The 'cabinets' are the starting lineup. Players are benched. Front or back.

            We have 'star' players.

            Hockey has 3 periods, while Parliament only has one: Question Period….but it happens every day, not just on weekends.

            We regard it all as a 'game'….and we have sports polls. We watch the 'scores'.

            Hockey has goons….the name Baird comes to mind

            There are even MVP awards every year

            Everything in QP and hockey is a 'face off'….skirmishes follow

            Injuries happen….the Speaker often calls a 'time out' or sends some to the penalty box.

            In a minority parliament every confidence bill is a sudden death final

            And if there's an election….we 'drop the puck'….er 'writ'.

    • Mark R

      Ignatieff hates hockey. Thats why no Dryden?

      • Emily

        And your source for this?

        • Style

          It has negligible ratings in the US and isn't even legal in the UK. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_criminal_law…

          • Emily

            LOL I don't like hockey either, but you might be exaggerating a tad. ;-)

          • Reverend_Blair

            Er, my niece's boyfriend plays in the UK. Hope he doesn't get arrested.

          • Style

            Why would you want criminals to evade prosecution?

          • Reverend_Blair

            Must be one of those unreported crimes.

  • LiveBloggin Junkie

    Strahl vs McCallum is the Liberals telegraphing that the fall AG report will have little in it to fuss about.
    Kenney vs Trudeau, I agree will be entertaining, but only in as much as watching any one-sided fight is entertaining. Trudeau isn't a lightweight anymore but c'mon, Kenney is a political heavyweight.
    If Dossanj doesn' change gears he will look loud and boorish next to Leona.
    Peter MacKay is gonna have to bring his A game though.

    • Emily

      AG report will be Brison and Flaherty.

      • Livebloggin Junkie

        I'd say your wrong but the simple truth is, I can't predict the future. But I can bet on the future, so I propose a wager. Since we have a Macleans blogger who's very beat is to cover question period, I suggest Aaron Wherry can serve as our Betting Commissioner.

        The Wager: I propose that in the two weeks (or 10 QPs whichever comes first) after the release of the Auditor General's Report into the Economic Action Plan more questions on the report will be directed to Strahl from McCallum then will be asked of Flaherty by Brison.

        The Terms: Loser never posts on a Macleans comment board again.

        If Aaron doesn't wish to act in an official capacity the question/Minister counts he provides at the end of each Beyond The Commons QP post will act as the official tally and I trust the Macleans posting community to determine the winner.

        Game?

        • Emily

          I never take candy from babies. Sorry. LOL

          • Crit_Reasoning

            What's the matter, Emily? Chicken?

          • Emily

            Like I said…candy from babies.

            It's about finance, not overpasses. LOL

          • LivbloginJunkie

            If your so right, why do you need to make lame excuses to not back up your BS.

          • Crit_Reasoning

            Well, I happen to agree with Liveblogging Junkie that the AG report will be primarily a Strahl/McCallum showdown, rather than a Flaherty/Brison showdown.

            I guess you think we're both idiots, eh?

          • Emily

            I think some guys like to play more games than hockey, and that they think they'll reach me with macho references. LOL

            When the AG report comes out, Flaherty will think he's in Marineland.

          • Style

            If it's interesting, wouldn't it be Baird who responds?

          • sea_n_mountains

            that would be my thinking. the current gov deflects everything of importance (i.e., anything perceived to be a risk or to make gains out of) to a few usual suspects. Baird is generally in charge of counterpunching. not sure why that would change now. (though i do suspect flaherty will chime in every once in a while with this was necessary and necessarily speedy).

          • http://secondthots.blogspot.com Dennis_F

            Will it really make a difference? The opposition shouts questions at the government, and the government shouts back non-answers. It's how our Parliament works! (And, yes, it was the same way under the Liberals)

            The only time I remember an opposition making any headway was when Joe Clark came back and relentlessly blasted the Chretien government over some scandal or another. The media was impressed, but I don't think it made much of a difference with voters.

          • McC_

            "The opposition shouts questions at the government, and the government shouts back non-answers. It's how our Parliament works" no it's not how Parliament works, that's Question Period, and Question Period is a very, very small, and hardly significant part of how Parliament works (45 minutes out of a full day, that often goes on into the evening and night).

          • Wes

            Its been the same for as long as I have watched QP It doesnt matter who is in power,the Libs otr the cons They are all stupid in the HOC.Clueless Jack layton is perpetually smug, and the bloc choose to do nothing if it doesnt involve their province!

      • http://www.jesserosenberg.com Jesse_Rosenberg

        Unless it's really bad, in which case Flaherty might not touch it.

        • Emily

          He isn't likely to have a choice. LOL

    • ChrisWPG

      Why bring Kenny's weight up? It's probably a glandular thingy, but don't pick on the man because he's big boned. Incompetency is a whole other issue for this man. Although I noticed he's no longer referring to the Tamil migrants as being criminals but rather the victims of crime, maybe there is hope for him yet.

      • Crit_Reasoning

        Although I noticed he's no longer referring to the Tamil migrants as being criminals

        Huh? When did he ever do this?

    • ZestyMordant

      Peter MacKay has an A game?

      • Emily

        Only when he's in a potato patch with rent-a-dog.

      • Jan

        He's going to start wearing army fatiques during QP.

  • James Wolfe

    Have you heard this loud mouth partisan blowhard Mcslimy speak? This guy could be the King of spin in Ottawa, what a mess, this should be comical to watch. NOT. More spin, propaganda and BS, here we go again…eeehhh, hhhaaaa. The Gong show is returning.

    • Emily

      Hockey always has 'goons' so I'm not surprised you immediately thought of Baird.

  • s_c_f

    Wherry, you've missed this article about the census: http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/just+people+f…

    Perhaps you've ignored it due to the abundance of common sense within.

    If the data is so darn valuable, then those that provide it should be compensated. Of course, coercion and force is so much more natural to the modern Liberal.

    • Emily

      They are compensated.

      So stop playing politics.

      • s_c_f

        No they aren't.

        • Emily

          Yes, they are.

          And since Liberals haven't said a peep about it, stop blaming them for your own incompetence.

          • s_c_f

            No they aren't. And yes they have. And no I'm not.

          • Emily

            LOL you are one confused ConBot.

          • s_c_f

            No, I'm not. The confusion is all yours.

          • Emily

            Libs haven't needed to say a word.

            The experts have said plenty though.

            You've said nothing

          • s_c_f

            Yes the Liberals have, they've said plenty. You're ignorant of it.

          • Emily

            Go to bed. You need the sleep.

          • s_c_f

            No I don't. That's just your confusion talking.

          • Emily

            Yada yada.

          • s_c_f

            That's also more of your confusion.

          • Emily

            Now you're just being silly.

          • s_c_f

            That's more of your confusion.

          • Wes

            Round one to you.

          • http://nexusofassholery.blogspot.com/ Patrick_Ross

            Much like yourself.

          • http://secondthots.blogspot.com Dennis_F

            Didn't your act reach its best before date in a prior decade? Good lord. http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&source=hp&q=i…

          • s_c_f

            There's also this: http://www.cbc.ca/politics/story/2010/08/26/censu…
            I'd have posted that for Emily, but for her, evidence is irrelevant.

          • http://secondthots.blogspot.com Dennis_F

            But you gotta give her A for effort. I've never seen someone so intent on denying even the most basic of facts in a debate. Indeed, debate nullification seems to be the desired tactic of today's left.

            I've had plenty of experience with her, by the way. She posted as "Nola" on the Bourque NewsWatch boards for years. She was basically a Liberal party agitator, and I suspect a poorly paid one at that. I generally don't like to accuse opponents of such, but with her it's just too much.

          • s_c_f

            I agree, I've seen her utter a complete denial of the most basic facts, sometimes in the face of an avalanche of evidence. She also has some interesting psychological behaviours. I'm not so sure it's based on effort, I think there are other compulsions at work. Some people have used her name as a verb: "to be Emily'ed".

      • DerekPearce

        I'm in favour of a compulsory census– but how are they compensated? A feeling of being a good citizen is great, but it's not compensation. I filled out the long form last time around and I don't recall any compensation.

        • Emily

          Well whether you're aware of it or not, you were the recipient of several govt programs because of that…..and you can easily call up any stat you want for free.

          What….you wanted a quarter in your mail?

          • DerekPearce

            No need for snark, I was genuinely asking if you meant direct compensation. Beneficial, yes, I agree, but that doesn't fit the real definition of compensation.

    • Jan

      Do you get extra points if you can put coercion and Liberal in a sentence, even if it doesn't make any sense? That must be it.

      • s_c_f

        What doesn't make sense? Something mandatory is coercive. The Liberal argument is that it must be mandatory. Do you get extra points for your "extra points" Liberal talking point?

        • Emily

          The Liberals haven't argued anything about it. Stop making stuff up.

          • s_c_f

            Yes they have.

          • Emily

            No, experts and users all over Canada have said it's necessary…..including Harp's church

          • s_c_f

            No, not all. But Liberals for certain have driven the opposition to it..

          • Emily

            They haven't needed to say anything.

          • s_c_f

            They've said plenty, and led the opposition to the move.

          • Emily

            Ho Hum

          • s_c_f

            That's your confusion again,

          • Emily

            You're done here.

            Good night.

          • s_c_f

            You're still confused.

          • http://nexusofassholery.blogspot.com/ Patrick_Ross

            Clearly VERY confused.

        • Jan

          Well, if you're worried about coercion, talk to the government. They administered the 2006 census and will be sending you another one next year – and the short form will be mandatory.

          • Emily

            OMG nooooo!

            And without 'compensation'??

          • Jan

            Not even a thank you note, no flowers, nada.

          • Emily

            No quarter? No free stamps? No 10% off??

            WHAT is this world coming to??

          • s_c_f

            Hmmm…instead of arguing there is no coercion, now you've done a 180 and you're pointing there is even more of it? I guess my argument worked. But at the same time, it says something about you.

          • Emily

            Hey, put your thumb in your mouth and sulk elsewhere.

          • s_c_f

            You're still confused, apparently.

          • Emily

            Sulk, sulk, sulk.

          • s_c_f

            Your confusion persists.

          • http://nexusofassholery.blogspot.com/ Patrick_Ross

            So confused.

          • Jan

            I said ' if you think there is coercion'. I consider it part of my responsibility as a citizen. Up there with voting and paying taxes.

          • s_c_f

            It doesn't matter if you agree with it. It's still coercive. I don't think you understand the concept. Taxes are also coercive. Voting is not.

            By the way, in a democracy, it is the state that has a responsibility to the citizen, not the other way around. They work for us. We don't work for them. There are places where the citizens work for the government – they're called dictatorships, communist countries, and various other things.

            I think you're confusing responsibilities with obligations. Responsibility is something you exhibit when you're not obligated to do something.

          • Emily

            LOL there's 'coercion' not to be a jaywalker.

            Cons forget so much.

          • s_c_f

            Yes, there is. Very good. For once you are correct. Seems like I've made a breakthrough.

          • http://secondthots.blogspot.com Dennis_F

            But that's you. Why force your values on others? Why force them to answer questions about their sex lives to the government? Does the left need that much control over people? Weird.

          • http://nexusofassholery.blogspot.com/ Patrick_Ross

            Particularly when you consider that many people simply don't think the government needs all that information gathered via the long-form census.

            Jan has yet to figure out that not everyone shares her opinion.

          • http://nexusofassholery.blogspot.com/ Patrick_Ross

            The necessity of a mandatory short-term census, collecting basic information necessary to government's legitimate role, hasn't been disputed.

  • Wes

    Brison, he's just so wimpy and whiny.

  • wascally wabbit

    With all the gna gna-ing going on – no-one seems to have commented on the apparent move of Bob Rae to the penalty box.
    Which for me is of some significance.
    First, it is a sign that they ar worried about him – especially that he hasn’t always slavishly followed the Central Control’s messaging – but has instead added in some intelligent thoughts.
    Second, that he became too visible when Iggy was at least to the optics – in hiding!
    Third, that he was associated with that idea of coalition – which is the most sensible approach for rebuilding the centre-left and taking out Harper’s radical government!
    A coalition with the NDP is anathema to the centre-right former Red tories (including Ignatieff) who took over the party on Paul Martin’s coat-tails.
    Only hope for Centre-left voters IMO – is for Iggy to finish much as the most recent polls have him – not something that can be called a decisive win – where the only option is to form coalition with the NDP (and maybe including Greens). Frankly, Iggy has poisoned the well for leading that sort of coalition – and I would see Bob Rae stepping in as an interim leader of a coalition based upon a similar arrangement that Cameron and the Liberal Democrats have in the UK – Iggy voluntarily stepping down – or being pushed!
    Lots of potential for something like that to happen!

  • ex-canuck

    Didn't they shuffle deck chairs on another sinking ship? oh, well

  • http://nexusofassholery.blogspot.com/ Patrick_Ross

    As a Tory, I like it:

    We have Ralph Goodale, the guy who declined — simply declined — to investigate the income trust leak and then whined when the RCMP invesitaged in his place.

    We have David McGuinty, the Liberal environment critic with a taste for renting gas-guzzling, emission-spewing SUVs.

    Just reminding Canadians that this party doesn't take its own espoused agenda seriously, and hasn't changed one little bit.

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