The most provocative blog post in the history of the Internets

God.
Discuss….

by Scott Feschuk on Friday, September 10, 2010 6:47pm - 0 Comments

God.

Discuss.

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  • madeyoulook

    God, you say? Provocative? Well, what's she wearing?

    • Phil

      What is it with you ____ies. Why does every issue always have to come down to "What's she wearing?" ;-)

      • madeyoulook

        Whaddya mean every issue? Feschuk was the one who promised provocative!

        • Phil

          Typical, blame someone else.

      • madeyoulook

        Whaddya mean every issue? Most of the issues in my subscription are so that I can read the articles!

        • Phil

          Yeah right, articles. You pervert, you oppressor you.

          • madeyoulook

            Whatever. When are you gonna return November '09?

          • Phil

            Uhhh, well, I'm not sure that you'll want it back…

          • madeyoulook

            Idiot!! You point AWAY!!!!!!

            Amateur.

          • Phil

            Hey! That's good advice. Thanks!

      • madeyoulook

        All week, veal, etc.

        • A_logician

          Ba-dump!

          • madeyoulook

            OW!!! Ok, ok, I was just leaving anyways. (Slowly backing up, face still to crowd) Hey, listen you guys have been great (sliding stage left), and my time is up — (already backstage) Good night everyone!!

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  • madeyoulook

    'Smatta, Scott? You couldn't stand all the agreement here in comment-land over federal funding of the NHL? Not even one single day of harmony? That was too much for you? Get help, man.

  • nameless lurker

    Nope. There's no reference to Harper to get the crowd warmed up. Try again …

    • Jan

      Harper is a wanker and his supporters are wankerettes,

  • JustinWordswrth

    "God" is just a euphemism for "nobody".

  • David_M.

    God – doesn't understand why humans created the concept.
    Humans – don't understand why their creation is imperfect.

    • Jan

      Making him an old white guy really limits his appeal.

      • Eric

        Why? They seem to be in charge of pretty much everything down here…

        ; )

  • Emily

    LOL I wondered if you'd survived the onslaught!

    I gave up after it hit the third page.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Ottawa_Centrist Ottawa_Centrist

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    • Emily

      But did you count the fish?

    • Richard_S_Argent

      Well played :)

    • brooster

      Jackie Robinson!

    • mungman

      What do you get when you multiply 6 by 9

  • guest

    Feschuk,

    If you really don't get why your implication that perfectly ordinary Christian views (which may or may not be Harper's) concerning gay marriage and abortion are intolerant, and if you further think it's funny to lump them in with racism, then you really are clueless.

    Referring to the previous post, of course, not this one. This one is just a lame attempt to deflect blame from your insulting caricature by attributing the reaction to people seeing the word "God" in print.

    • Emily

      Since it's supposedly okay for 'christians' to tell everyone else how to live and what to believe, you'll have to get used to being criticized yourselves.

      If you don't like the criticism, stay off my porch, keep your brochures to yourself, and get out of my govt.

      • Blacktop

        Particularly stay out of my government.

    • Jan

      You need to read up on what evanlgelicals believe.

  • Patchouli

    This will be more fun if it hits National News Watch.

  • http://myblahg.com Robert McClelland

    I've had enough of your yellow journalism too, Feschuk, you damned sewer rat.

  • http://politicos-rkd.blogspot.com/ PoliticosRKD

    God, the creator, the father of us all. Known by so many different names. Whether ours is the God of fire and brimstone, or the God of Love and forgiveness, remains to be seen. At this point in human evolution, I’m sure the case could be made for either. But whether or not you consider Jesus to be the son of God (remember, he/she is father/mother to us all), he is recognized as a prophet in so many other world religions. So even if you contend that Jesus was “just a man”, this wonderful person left the world with the ultimate word of what he believed to be his god. Namely, if we are going to survive as a species, we need to look after each other, cherish each other , look after our sick and our poor, turn the other cheek and forgive our enemies. So regardless of your interpretation of God, Jesus, the greatest person that ever lived, left us the recipe for how we were supposed to live, and that was with tolerance and love. And anyone claiming to follow the message of Jesus, in my opinion, would be tolerant of all people, of all races, of all religions or sexual orientations. I don’t think he intended for us to pick and choose which of his tenants were the most convenient to follow, or best fit with our own agendas. I think that Jesus would weep if he knew that some one, who supposedly loves him, were threatening to destroy holy books, regardless of their religion. And he would weep over the alienation or marginalization of any of our society. And he would weep at the murderous ethnic grudges that continue to exist in the world today. But that’s my opinion, and I certainly don’t seem to be in the majority.

    • Emily

      Treacle.

      • PoliticosRKD

        Thank you for your lovely compliment. It is much appreciated.

        • Emily

          Dormouse….Alice in Wonderland

          • PoliticosRKD

            Thank you Alice??

          • Emily

            You're the one talking about fairy tales, not me.

      • mungman

        Bitter

    • LaxAtlDfwYow

      Well, that put a damper on the discussion.

      • Emily

        Bronze age fairy tale. Nobody's listening.

        • PoliticosRKD

          I would agree with you about it all being a Bronze Age Fairy Tail, if it weren't for the fact that there are so many religions that recognize the existence of Jesus. They certainly don't all agree on his "nature' but most believe him to be a prophet. I think there is too much evidence to dismiss his existence or his teachings out of hand. But I would certainly agree with you about people listening. Not many are. We live in such a cynical world.

          • Orson Bean

            News flash: the fact that a bunch of religions recognize the existence of something does not make it a fact.

          • Emily

            No, lots of people believe in bigfoot, ufos and Nessie as well.

          • PoliticosRKD

            Quite right Emily, so many are so willing to believe in monsters but not in universal love and understanding. So how do we change that? How do we get people to live together in relative peace and harmony instead of the universal hatred and mistrust that exists today?. Oh, and whether or not he exists, I think the world is big enough to accommodate "Big Foot" too. The last of the 'Neanderthals" perhaps.

          • Emily

            Well it won't be with religion, that's for sure. Surely several thousand years of war over religion has convinced you of that much.

            And neanderthals didn't look like bigfoot.

            We could try a decent education.

          • PoliticosRKD

            Emily, Yes, religion itself may not be the ultimate answer. Religion can be twisted and interpreted to justify pretty much anything. So if we take the "Jesus" label away, would the concept of universal brotherhood and peace be more palatable you think?
            Well I must say it distresses me that Bigfoot doesn't look at all like a Neanderthal. I had such high hopes that one day, he would be confirmed as such and that it would be a monumental scientific breakthrough. But for the record, what does the big fella actually look like??
            We could all use a better education. Never ever stop learning. Once you stop learning, you stop living.

          • Emily

            Neanderthals interbred with us long ago

            And….pull the other one, it has got bells on it.

          • PoliticosRKD

            Emily. Yes, I suppose Neanderthals and our fore-bearers intermingled quite some time ago. Just natural evolution I would think. So if our primitive ancestors found a way to coexist for the perpetuation of the species ( though granted, while it may have been for the greater good, it was probably far from Universal brotherhood), do you think there is hope for us as a species in this day and age? In all our brilliant sophistication, do we have what it takes to survive?

            Bells?

          • Emily

            Yes, bells.

            Talking like that you're definitely pulling my leg.

          • PoliticosRKD

            Emily. Actually, I'm not pulling your leg…at least not intentionally anyway. Just speaking from the heart as I believe you are. Hope I didn't hurt your leg in the process.

          • Emily

            Then I'll say…. humans will be around 10,000 years from now, and there will be billions of us.

            We won't all be living on this planet, but we'll be doing just fine.

          • Keith in Brampton

            See, SOME people would think that you've just put yourself into the "space cadet" camp; a camp often more ridiculed than the religious.

            Just sayin'…

          • Scott Feschuk

            Ha ha. "Signed off on it." That's funny. You're funny. I WISH i'd had the authority to sign off on stuff. You'd have seen a lot more A-Team references and cleavage (not the PM's).

          • AJR79

            You seem like a reasonable sort RKD so I'd like to have a go with you on this.

            IMO the idea of "universal brotherhood and peace ", is an extremely naive one. It will never happen, no matter how you might wish for it.

            As for "loving your enemies", I don't even find this particularly moral. This is milksop phiosophy IMHO, and only invites evil to spread unchecked.

            I say love your own enemies if you must, but I'll thank you not to love mine.

          • PoliticosRKD

            Hello AJR79. Thanks for the comments. I will admit that the concept of "Universal Brotherhood" may sound a tad "Utopian". Judging from where we are now as a species, it must sound like quite the fairy tail, given that humans have messed up every good thing we've ever had. Mother Earth for example. But if we are to survive and evolve as a species, we all, collectively, need to do a much better job of coexisting. We may never achieve Universal Brotherhood, at least in our life time. But it is something to be aspired to, like reaching for the moon or venturing to Mars or a cure for cancer.The beauty about humans is, that sometimes we can surprise ourselves with the extent to which we can rise to the occasion when called upon to do so.

            I've forgiven my enemies. Not an easy thing to do, but it makes living a whole lot nicer and less complicated. But I promise not to love your enemies, but please excuse me if I don't hate them.

          • AJR79

            Just to clarify, I wasn't refering to personnal enemies, so much as the enemies of civilization.

            I think if you "turn the other cheek" to fanatical Islam for example, you are showing weakness and will be overrun. That won't do much good for future world peace.

            It's not that I'd expect you to hate these enemies of civilization, but I'd ask you to stand strong against them. There are always going to be really bad people in the world who need killing. I wouldn't have said that 10 years ago, but I now fully believe it to be true.

            Would you really love a man that cut off his wifes ears, and nose in the name of honour? I can't bring myself to, or to easily forgive it. I don't think the ability to love such a person, is a more moral position then mine.

          • PoliticosRKD

            Mr. Bean, thank you for the feed back. You are right, the fact that more than one religion recognizes the same thing, doesn't necessarily make it "so". However, as several of these religions are at odds with one another, I think it adds certain credibility to the existence of that" thing". Don't get me wrong, I believe that "Jesus's" story has been twisted to meet the needs and agendas of certain groups of people as history progresses. Innumerable people have been murdered in his name. But if you look at him as strictly a "man", the various religions seem to agree that he was a man of peace and acceptance. And even if you believe that he didn't exist at all, isn't "his" way a wonderful way for all human beings to live with each other? Certainly beats the hell out of the hatred, ignorance, suspicion, murder and intolerance that permeates most of the world today.

      • madeyoulook

        Go easy on Politicos. He or she may just not be too familiar with Feschuk.

        • PoliticosRKD

          You're right "Madeyoulook", I'm not. Just speaking from th heart.

  • Blacktop

    Politikos. I wish we had a face view. I can't imaine politicos saying all that with a straight face. I betcha you will vote for harper and his merry band of right-wing evangelical funamentalists.

    • PoliticosRKD

      Hello "Blacktop". Actually, my face was pretty straight when I made the above comment. I had no idea I sounded like a Far Right wing Evangelical Fundamentalist. But now that you mention it…..no, sorry, still don't see it. I think, and again, just my opinion here, that Fundamentalists, regardless of their religion, tend to pick and choose which parts of their chosen religion are the most convenient to follow and tend to interpret the words of their god in ways that suit their own particular agenda. And for the record my friend, I tend to reside somewhere to the Left of Center.

    • AJR79

      Politikos tone sounds like a polite theist expressing his/her view.

      Your tone is similar to a braying donkey.

  • Blacktop

    correction; for "imaine" read "imagine"

    for "funamentalists" read "fun-amentalists"

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    • Emily

      Dogs I like….even ones that have off moments. LOL

    • madeyoulook

      Hey… Where is Cats anyways…?

      • http://dougsamu.wordpress.com doug_rogers

        All Dogs go to Heaven. All cats ….

  • Bob

    Bigfoot. Loch Ness Monster. Easter Bunny!

    • John D

      Diet Dr. Pepper Guy…

      • Patchouli

        Man from Glad.

  • madeyoulook

    Sorry, dude. THIS is the most provocative blog post in the history of the Internets.
    http://highclearing.com/index.php/archives/2006/0…

    • http://dougsamu.wordpress.com doug_rogers

      Funny. Stolen for a Tweet.

    • edeast

      hs! that makes happiness.

  • Thwim

    Pics or it didn't happen.

  • ColdStanding

    God, the word isn't provocative, as evidenced by the underwhelming response to this Feschuk blog post as opposed to his last one.
    Using your position as a writer at the most popular magazine in Canda to call the PM a big o'le pile of stinking hypocritical gay-bashing God loving idiot AND at the same time say that God is a lie, now, that is provocative.

  • GOD

    Feschuk.

    Discuss.

  • danby

    Now Scott, God would obviously dominate any event he entered, but the discus?
    It's just frisbee for overachievers who can't catch.

  • AJR79

    What's up next Scott, burning the Qu'ran?

    God is the Rodney Dangerfield of deities lately… Not that I mind.

  • tobyornotoby

    You can't tell me what to discuss!

  • ex-canuck

    Feschuck, you still here? Your fan club is so enthusiastic to have been given something to keep them going on with. Pathetic sophomores, the lot of you.

    • Jan

      Says ex-canuck, following along. But he's not a sophomore – he is the hall monitor,

  • bergkamp

    God is good. If we could get atheists and evangelicals to mind their own business and stop telling others how to behave we would be on to something.

    • Emily

      Yeah I'm sure you've had a lot of atheists on your doorstep, or affirming their ideas at public suppers and assemblies, and your neighbourhood is full of buildings for them to meet, right?

      • lgarvin

        I find that the most obnoxious, immature "atheists" are usually found braying like drunken jackasses right here on the internet.

        • RunningGag

          But at least they let you sleep in on Sundays.

  • Party_of_One

    I should point out that the proscriptions of the ten commandments, or other similar set of rules, are NOT unique to any particular religion, and don't even require a religious justification. They're just functional to a "well-ordered" society, and even societies that didn't believe in gods would probably adopt most of them, with the obvious exception of the ones about not worshipping other gods, etc.

    • Emily

      Yes, all societies have had rules forbidding murder, theft etc. It's just common sense, and doesn't require any 'god' or 'gods'.

      • Party_of_One

        Funny thing about "common sense" though, Emily; it doesn't seem to be that "common"! And in societies that promote individual interests over collective ones (consciously and deliberately or not!) "common" sense would justify individual actions that are injurious to the functioning of the society. So an imposed "restraint" on the actions of individuals that is justified by invoking a "higher power" (which could literally be ANYTHING, really) makes sense.

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