The long-gun registry’s value is only symbolic

COYNE: It’s not much use, for not much cost. If it’s worth keeping, it’s probably worth killing as well.

by Andrew Coyne on Friday, September 10, 2010 9:00am - 0 Comments

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One thing all the parties agree on is the vital importance of the long-gun registry. Whether it’s a costly and intrusive waste of time, as the Tories maintain, or an effective tool of law enforcement, as the Liberals insist, or both, as I gather is the NDP’s view, it’s widely seen as a critical, make-or-break issue.

And like most critical, make-or-break issues in politics, it’s of little actual importance to anyone. Whether the registry lives or dies will have no impact whatsoever on the vast majority of Canadians, and scarcely more on the minority that pay it close attention.

Take the cost, first. It is certainly true that the costs of setting up the registry were substantial, and outrageous. If the issue were whether it was worth spending $2 billion just to draw up a list, not of handguns or newly purchased rifles (both are subject to separate procedures), but of the rifles people already owned, I doubt there’d be many takers.

But the registry has been set up. The $2 billion is a sunk cost: it’s gone, and nothing we can do will get it back. The relevant factor in any decision we make now is not what we paid in the past but what we’ll have to pay from here on, that is, the annual cost of maintaining the registry, which the RCMP informs us is less than $4 million a year.

Not terribly costly, and not terribly intrusive either: as its defenders point out, we are obliged to register many other of our possessions, most of them far less capable of havoc than a gun. As Charlie Gillis reports elsewhere in this issue, whatever forms gun owners must fill out on account of the registry are barely noticeable amid the mounds of paperwork to which they are already subject.

On the other hand, there’s not much evidence of the registry’s effectiveness, either. Its boosters among the nation’s police forces say it can be useful, when answering a domestic disturbance, say, to know how many guns are in the house. Which is no doubt true—if the householder has been so good as to register them all. But the best gun registry tells us relatively little about unregistered guns. In sum, the registry is not much use, for not much cost. If it’s probably worth keeping, it’s probably worth killing as well. It just doesn’t matter a great deal either way. That is, if actual costs and benefits are your thing.

But as for its symbolic value, ah, that’s another story. Rightly or wrongly, many people in rural Canada have come to see the gun registry as a sign of the disdain with which they are viewed by blinkered city snobs. The Conservatives know this, and cater to it. Equally, many people in urban Canada have come to see it, not only as the antidote to gun crime, but as a token of credibility on urban issues. The Liberals know this, and cater to it in their turn. (As have the Bloc, though in Quebec the registry is less controversial.) Which leaves the NDP, and the 12 anti-registry MPs in its ranks who will decide this month’s crucial parliamentary vote on the issue. (Sorry, did I say crucial? Not exactly. The vote is on a Liberal motion to scotch a Tory private member’s bill, C-391, that would abolish the registry. But the bill itself does not come to a vote at third reading for some time yet. So even if the motion is defeated, that doesn’t guarantee the bill will pass.)

The wavering MPs, all from rural or small-town ridings, are under enormous pressure, given the registry’s unpopularity with their constituents; two have already recanted under the heat. But that’s nothing compared to the abuse their leader, Jack Layton, has taken. The Liberals have been especially scornful of him for his refusal to whip the vote, painting this as a failure of “leadership.” That’s their privilege, I suppose, but that’s no reason the rest of us should buy into it.

I had some fun at the top of this column with the NDP’s position, or positions, on the issue. But in fact the party is handling it exactly as it should. This needs to be said, and should be repeated every time this comes up: there’s nothing wrong with a caucus being “divided” on a vote. That is simply another name for MPs doing what they were elected to do: represent their riding, either as their conscience or their constituents dictate.

The gun registry shows up nowhere in the NDP’s 2008 platform. The party did not run on it, and MPs cannot be said to owe their seats to the party’s stand on the issue. So there’s no failure of leadership here. Layton may not have much choice—the NDP has many more dissenters in its caucus, proportionately, than do the Liberals, so any use of the whip risked inciting a revolt—but he’s doing the right thing all the same. You take a stand as a party where you have a consensus as a party. If there’s no such consensus, what is the point of pretending there is?

So maybe there is something important at stake here after all. The NDP are taking a principled stand on behalf of parliamentary democracy and the rights of MPs, right? Er, no. When the Liberals were “divided,” as in the vote to extend the Afghanistan mission in 2006, the NDP leader was among the first to criticize them. As usual in our politics, any resemblance to principle is purely coincidental.

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  • Gailamir

    The recently released RCMP evaluation of the Canadian Firearms Program contains two interesting tidbits besides recycling the same old canards that Canada’s long-gun registry is an important tool for law enforcement.

    First, the report clearly states that its primary focus is on ordinary citizens who own firearms because they might commit suicide, not violent criminals. Perhaps Canadians would be safer if we put more violent offenders in prison?

    • luke

      Since 2005, approx 11,000 people had their firearm licence revoked. They were deemed to be a threat to public safety. Do we still let these people keep the firearms even though they had their firearm licence revoked?

      • CDN

        No – if your licence is gone – so are your firearms and it is a criminal
        offence to be in possession without a licence. Note that revoked and
        expired are different but essentially have the same potential penalties.
        Police may obtain a search warrant and seize any/all firearms found
        in addition to any turned in on the licence being revoked.

  • Gailamir

    Second, the report admits that the registry costs over $20 million per year, not the paltry four million the Chiefs of Police claimed earlier this year.

    However, research shows that police officers cannot and should not trust the information in the registry. Less than half of all firearms in Canada are included, and of course, none of the guns owned by criminals. In approaching dangerous situations, the police must always assume there is a weapon.

    There is no convincing evidence supporting the claim that the long-gun registry has had any effect on homicide, suicide, or domestic violence rates. Homicide rates have been essentially flat since the long-gun registry was introduced in 2001. The long-gun registry has not saved any lives.

    GARY MAUSER
    Professor Emeritus
    Institute for Canadian Urban Research Studies
    Faculty of Business Administration
    Simon Fraser University

  • ex-canuck

    How many more Liberal boodoggles will Mr Harper's minority government have to rationalise? Given a working majority, his government might actually have time to create something.

  • waynebernard

    I realize that Canadian police forces love the registry because it gives them the ability to pre-screen homes that they are entering to ascertain whether or not firearms are present. This, unfortunately, gives them a false sense of security. To the best of my knowledge, the Canadian government has NO idea of the level of compliance; there are many, many long gun owners out there who have either not registered any of their guns or registered a select few. Since I know that is the case, surely Canadian police forces would be wise enough to realize that they should approach every home with the same amount of caution whether the home’s residents show up on the gun registry or not.

    http://viableopposition.blogspot.com/

  • john g

    Jonathan at Macleans…

    FYI…Firefox refuses to load the IntenseDebate comments for this post only.

  • The writer

    Police budgets are comprised of calls for service for everything related to long guns and not necessarily only “criminals”- suicide calls (the police come), assaults (the police come), unsafe storage and use (the police come). There are investigations which go along with these incidents. The faster they can clear these incidents through checking the registry, the cheaper it is for all of us. $4 mill ion to help all police services is an excellent investment.

  • Pat

    "Its boosters among the nation’s police forces say it can be useful, when answering a domestic disturbance, say, to know how many guns are in the house."

    This is disingenuous. Frankly, this entire column was disappointing and not up to your usual standard. While I respect your opinion, though I disagree with it, you have failed to support said opinion.

  • xiv

    While i do not know where the $4 million number comes from (i have not been able to find it myself), it's not true that eliminating the gun registry removes all costs from the canadian firearms program (the figures you quoted above) which also includes registration of handguns, and administration of the safety program, which this bill will not remove.

    The cost savings for merely removing a large portion of entries from a database that will continue to exist for restricted weapons is largely going to come down to forms no longer needing to be submitted, which may well be on the order of $4M. However a source would be nice, yes.

  • UVIC Student

    Wow,

    I was shocked to read a comment by the actual Dr. Gary Mauser. He’s a legend in the firearm rights community!

    I really want to take a course taught by him, but I’m stuck at UVIC.

  • Elmo Harris

    There is something wrong with Andrew Coyne’s story about firearms. It does not work with Firefox. Other columns are fine. It’s just this column that has developed a problem. Others have have the same problem. I sent an email about this today. Is anybody paying attention?

  • ex-canuck

    So why are we debating the fate of the lgr? Kill it and put it out of its misery. And, Mr. Coyne, why don't you do something honourable and say so, because this is the logical conclusion of your string of words.

  • Canada Dad

    I note that Gary Mauser’s comment, that none of the guns belonging to criminals would be registered, promulgates the myth told and retold by NRA types everywhere. They seem to believe that the world can be neatly divided into 2 camps – criminals and the rest of us. This level of thinking from a University professor? Really??? Professor Mauser, I pity your students.

    Mr. Coyne, I enjoy your columns and your independent viewpoint. In this case, however, the logic is lacking. The strongest reason for disbanding the registry is that it’s unreliable because it’s incomplete. Why is it incomplete? Because people won’t obey the law? Why won’t they obey the law? Because they’re convinced the registry is of no use. Why is it of no use? Well, mostly because it’s unreliable and incomplete. That’s called circular logic.

  • arcticmelt

    If it so important to the government and their support base to kill the LGR,, then why is it being brought in as a private member’s bill? This in itself is suspect, re; is this being used to create a political advantage?

  • arcticmelt

    I’m using firefox and have no problems of any kind.

    • ElmoHarris

      Can you see the thumbs up or down? What version are you using?

  • $$$guy

    Wouldn’t it be a novel idea to actually hold some politician responsible for the spending of taxpayer $$$ for the creation of the registry? Its always amusing seeing the banter left VS right but never any actual accountability for what has transpired. Regardless of the opinion one may have on whether the registry is useful or needed, why don’t people actually consider asking standing government to investigate the politicians and lobbyists who were responsible for the spending of tax $$$???

    I doubt the liberals would have been able to pass the law in the 90′s to establish the registry and change the long standing firearms system had they only had a minority in Ottawa… And now so vocal against measures to clean up a mess they made… How many years of savings from not having the registry around until break even for the initial outlay of setting it up? Food for thought.

  • dave evans

    A very important problem overlooked is the right of self defense;which is removed from the owner of a domicile when a criminal enters ones abode. One would never have time to go and unlock a weapon for protection, and then have to go to a separate location to get ammunition to then load said gun!
    But that is just the beginning of the problem,as by present law you must use”EQUAL FORCE;” you would have to ask the thief, perhaps in the dark at night, does he have a weapon with him, and what exactly is it? What is your response at that point,given that fact that it is highly unlikely that the thief doesn’t already have the drop on you,… so to speak?
    Most nations support the notion that the homeowner’s interior space is sacrosanct,and I would hasten to hope, that so does are Charter of Rights and Freedoms,or it is simply not worth the price of the paper it’s written on?!
    Finally I think it is very self serving for the police and our courts to defend the registry; but not the average citizen,especially when given the fact; at least the police forces carry a sidearm, and we are left totally vulnerable in our homes..What a joke! These lopsided laws only protect intruders,and arguably, perhaps the police!

  • Judge Roy Bean

    Four millon per, yea right. Didn't someone other than those dead-honest, non-political police chiefs state the annual bill is over $70 mil. Shame on you for parroting this myth. This is nothing more than elitist academics supported by brain dead uneducated socialists proving they are not Americans. They would rather see us evolve into a lawless society ruled by corrupt police and drug gangs ala Mexico than have people be in a position to protect themselves.

  • Lena

    i personally think they should keep the long gun registry, because think of all the lives that have been taken from people by a long gun. this registry isnt saying that hunters and people in rural communities are criminals its just sim ply being more careful of who they give theyr guns outto, because its our future and our children we want to protect. i as a student as delhi in grade have put alot of thought into this and i strongly think its a very good use of money if its saving lives, which in fact it has been.

  • RayK

    "When the Liberals were “divided,” as in the vote to extend the Afghanistan mission in 2006, the NDP leader was among the first to criticize them."

    That's a false equivalency. The NDP's (primary) criticism of the Liberals on issues such as Afghanistan (and abortion and equal marriage) has not been that they were divided or that their leaders fail to whip vote, but rather that these votes demonstrate that the Liberal Party just isn't the progressive alternative to the Conservatives that Liberal leaders like to claim it is at election time.

    In contrast, we don't see Liberals actually criticizing the NDP members voting against the registry, but rather they're just trying "blame Layton" in a most silly and disingenuous way.

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