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In the event of a tie

by Aaron Wherry on Monday, September 13, 2010 4:56pm - 0 Comments

As we may be headed toward just such a scenario in the case of C-391, it is perhaps worth reviewing the precedent and procedure for tie votes in the House. So here goes.

Should a vote in the House result in a tie, it is the Speaker who holds what is known as the casting vote. The conventions covering this are well explained in House of Commons Procedure and Practice.

In theory, the Speaker has the same freedom as any other Member to vote in accordance with his or her conscience; however, the exercise of this responsibility could involve the Speaker in partisan debate, which would adversely affect the confidence of the House in his or her impartiality. Therefore, certain conventions have developed as a guide to Speakers (and Chairs in a Committee of the Whole) in the infrequent exercise of the casting vote. Concisely put, the Speaker normally votes to maintain the status quo. This entails voting in the following fashion:

-whenever possible, leaving the matter open for future consideration and allowing for further discussion by the House;

-whenever no further discussion is possible, preserving the possibility that the matter might somehow be brought back in the future and be decided by a majority of the House; and

-leaving a bill in its existing form rather than causing it to be amended.

Peter Milliken has had to make five such casting votes. On Oct. 8, 2009, he voted against a motion, allowing debate on a bill to continue. On April 30, 2009,  May 4, 2005 and May 19, 2005 he voted in favour of bills, allowing them to proceed to committee—the latter being an unprecedented casting vote on a matter of confidence. On Sept. 16, 2003, he voted against an amendment to a motion (as further explained here).

If I were to hazard a guess, based on a reading of the above, as to what Mr. Milliken might do in this case—first on the motion to halt C-391 or, if that fails, on C-391 itself—my guess would probably be the same as this one offered by Kady O’Malley. But since neither of us are constitutional authorities, I’ll be dropping a note to a more authoritative source for further judgment.

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  • madeyoulook

    So it seems he is 5/5 for honoring the convention preserving status quo.

    I am surprised to learn there were five such events.

    UPDATE and clarification: By "events," I mean opportunities, not results. Upon re-reading, I see I left the possible impression that I am surprised Milliken honored convention. That was not my intent.

  • Mike T.

    for what it's worth I concur with your and Kady's assessment

    • Crit_Reasoning

      for what it's worth I concur with your and Kady's and Aaron's assessment

      • Charles H.

        I disagree with Mike's assessment, but I concur with yours, Kady's, and Aaron's.

        • Crit_Reasoning

          I disagree with your assessment of Mike's assessment, but I agree with your assessment of my assessment, Kady's assessment and Aaron's assessment.

          • brooster

            An awful lot of asses here.

          • Crit_Reasoning

            Indeed.

  • Criacow

    Ah, 2005, how quickly we forget you.

    "The vote ended a month-long drama that started when the opposition Conservatives and the Bloc Quebecois said the financial scandal, dating back to the 1990s, meant the government must go."

    But I thought he would never work with the separatists…!

  • wascally wabbit

    Since one more NDP MP has announced today he is switching http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/gunregistry/ar… – and Carol Hughes in my riding is wavering – Speaker Milliken may not even be a factor!

  • Gayle

    It was unprecedented to go to the GG and prorogue parliament just to avoid a non confidence vote too. I think that the Speaker can do anything he wants now.

    • Mike T.

      It would definitely be tit for tat if the speaker said "Y'know, I guess I don't have to play fair either. The bill dies."

  • Standing By

    I'm guessing the constitutional expert Aaron consults will probably end up emailing the question to "That's a Good Question!"

  • http://www.robedger.blogspot.com/ Robin_E

    There must be a more interesting way to decide tie votes than that. Maybe each side could choose a representative to run an obstacle course?

  • NorthernPoV

    Monty Python had a name for that one: upper-class-twit-of-the-year

    (but I guess Harper wins that award perennially w/o facing any real competition)

  • Reverend_Blair

    I think naked hog-entrail wrestling would be more appropriate.

  • ajb

    You know, much as I dislike Harper, I'd have to admit that Ignatieff can be a pretty fierce contender in this category when he chooses.

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