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The Commons: Iggy’s sharp right hook

by Aaron Wherry on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 5:49pm - 0 Comments

The Scene. Michael Ignatieff stood first to express his concern for the people of Newfoundland and Labrador in the wake of hurricane Igor, second to lament for the Finance Minister’s speech the other day.

“Yesterday the Minister of Finance delivered a wild partisan rant,” Mr. Ignatieff. “I assume that the Prime Minister approved this speech because, after all, he makes the rules, but what I wanted to know is whether the Prime Minister understands that this was a classic example of the politics of fear, division, envy and resentment at a time when Canadians need to hear a message of hope and unity.”

There were several bursts of laughter from the government side.

Stephen Harper stood next, first to express his concern for the people of Newfoundland and Labrador in the wake of hurricane Igor, second to half-heartedly dismiss the Liberal leader’s lament.

“As for the government’s economic policy, we are, of course, providing hope and opportunity through the economic action plan,” he ventured, “and stand strongly against the tax and spend policies of the Liberal Party.”

Various Conservatives stood to applaud.

Mr. Ignatieff rose and gave it another go, this time en francais. Mr. Harper rose and whined to the Speaker. ”The leader of the opposition always makes partisan attacks in the House of Commons,” he tattled. Furthermore, said Mr. Harper, the Liberal leader wants to impose all sorts of taxes and they have opposed every attempt by this government to lower taxes. “It is his policy,” Mr. Harper huffed, “and he should be ready to defend it.”

And so here Mr. Ignatieff seemed, for a third consecutive day, to be soundly slapped down—in this case, very nearly emasculated. And so what followed was something of a surprise.

“Mr. Speaker, the Minister of Finance yesterday used an extraordinary phrase to describe the real preoccupations of Canadians,” Mr. Ignatieff began, simply enough, with his third try. “Canadians are concerned with child care, with pensions, with the problem of getting student loans and the Minister of Finance dismissed all of that as warm and fuzzy.”

Then, the question.

“Since when did compassion, decency and a commitment to equality become warm and fuzzy in this country?”

When Mr. Ignatieff is not tentatively jabbing at his opponent, he often swings wildly—sweeping overhand rights that finish a foot or two off the mark and leave the Liberal leader off balance and prone for a counterattack. Here, though, was a sharp right hook, a tight, finely aimed blow to the chin.

And, lo and behold, it seemed legitimately to stagger Mr. Harper.

“Of course, Mr. Speaker, the Leader of the Opposition cannot pretend to be concerned about those things when the real effect of the things he proposes are deep and high tax increases on the Canadian economy,” the Prime Minister offered, seeming a bit lost in response.

The Prime Minister ventured a bit into the taxes he says Mr. Ignatieff would raise, but could only close with the vaguest of retorts. “He should have been doing what we have been doing,” Mr. Harper said of the Liberal leader, “which is making sure there are projects across this country that will help the Canadian people.”

The government side jumped up to cheer, but this was not nearly the sort of uppercut Mr. Harper typically finishes with. This was very nearly defensive, the response of a man who had been taken by surprise.

And here came Mr. Ignatieff again, breaking from the normal habit to have a fourth round. Turning to the matter of the long-gun registry, wondered why the Prime Minister had chosen to be so divisive in this regard. After Mr. Harper had dismissed this suggestion, the Liberal took a fifth turn, pushing the registry debate into a discussion of domestic violence and mocking a government backbencher’s recent verbal stumblings in this regard. “Why,” Mr. Ignatieff wondered aloud, “will the Prime Minister not work with the opposition to save the gun registry and improve it for the benefit of all Canadians?”

The Conservatives were no longer laughing, but howling, now quite angry with the opposition leader. And here came Mr. Harper, chopping his hand and raising his voice and declaring that the Liberals were only interested in harassing the innocent.

Mr. Harper was clearly now in quite a mood and as he answered questions next from Gilles Duceppe, he gestured and shook about. Here, indeed, he had come to embody precisely the sort of leader Mr. Ignatieff had just been lamenting.

The Stats. The economy, 11 questions. Gun control, nine questions. Veterans, three questions. Government spending, the military and the census, two questions each. Taxation, seniors, foreign ownership, credit cards, Newfoundland and the Quebec City arena, one question each.

Stephen Harper, 10 answers. Vic Toews, eight answers. Chuck Strahl and Tony Clement, four answers each. Jean-Pierre Blackburn, Diane Finley, Jim Flaherty and John Baird, two answers each. Peter MacKay, one answer.

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  • Emily

    I think we'll discover that when Harper gets hit, he has a glass jaw.

    • TJCook

      Bullies always do.

      • Emily

        Exactly. And it cracks when someone stands up to him, and names him for what he is.

        • Observant

          Iggnatieff has already cracked by admitting he didn't really know Canada until he went on his 35 day Summer Bust Tour … to make up for the 35 years of pizzing on Canada when he considered himself an "adopted Brit" and then a "we Americans" neocon supporter of the Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld regime and the invasion of Iraq.

          Iggy …. the lapsed Canadian attempting to be a born-again Canadian wearing Liberal drag … soooo obvious.

    • paulsstuff

      He's been PM since January 2006. That's some glass jaw.

      • Emily

        The Libs have been a little preoccupied….yet even against Dion Harp hasn't gotten a majority.

      • jellybean

        He has bean unable to get a majority government, that says something. If he were that good, he would have won his majority, truth be told, the majority of Canadians don't really like the man. I have never seen someone more devoted to try and destroy everyone in his path that does not agree with him, he does not represent what Canadian value.

  • Jenn_

    This is so damn sad.

    I know we get the government we deserve, but at this point, really, I think we can do better.

    • Richard_S_Argent

      I think we should all "Demand Better" ;)

      • hollinm

        Richard_S_Argent…..yes we should demand better. A better leader of the official opposition who does not think he is an American and never had any time for the country of his birth for 34 years.

        • Emily

          Don't be bitter…you got beat. Man up.

          • Observant

            Next election, 16 Lib and Dip flip flopping turncoats will get beat up really really bad … believe it.

        • Richard_S_Argent

          Yer heart just ain't in it these days, eh hollin?

          (Now let's put on our thinking caps and try and remember who first asked Canadians to "Demand Better"? Maybe during an election campaign??)

        • Andrew (not PorC)

          Thank you captain non sequiter.

        • brooster

          New batteries for your remote…the channel's not changing!

        • Nihon

          Pfff….weak sauce, even from you

          • Gayle

            Ha! That's it. He's JEALOUS!

          • Gayle

            Whoops – meant this to go under Leigh's comment.

        • Leigh

          Harper wishes he was American.

        • sursum

          Read the bio of Mike Pearson.

  • Michel

    "There were several bursts of laughter from the government side."

    Cackles would be more appropriate.

    • Wes

      please! lol you act like Holland is never seen yelling across the floor like a screaming banshee I have seen first hand what they are all like! Iggy whipped this last vote, and his Mps will lose seats! I like that

      • Amateur Hour

        Weakest of all Con arguments: Iggy whipped his caucus on a private member's bill.
        (Can you imaging the talking points if he HADN'T shown leadership in defending it?)
        The registry is a Liberal policy, so the least the libs could do is show up to defend it.
        That the government didn't have the guts to introduce a bill of its own to kill the registry is telling.
        The Cons have had 4 and half years to take on the registry in the House.
        In the end, they tossed up a backbench MP as chum for the waters.
        They stand for nothing but stirring dissent and division.

      • danby

        The gun registry is very strong in Quebec. What about the Conservative seats there? Why would they vote against the will of their constituents?
        Do you think that maybe the Conservative vote was whipped too???

  • danby

    OK MIchael.
    Now pursue the theme, and message the cooperative nature of minority governments in reaching practical consensus.
    How the politics of fear is politically divisive and unnecessarily confrontational.
    Surely good ideas nurtured with honest debate will bear the fruit of good policy

    How could any reasonable, level headed Canadian disagree with that?

    Take away Mr Harper's coalition bogeyman and he'll be forced to run on his record – why is he so afraid to run on his record?

    • guest

      do you never get sick of preaching to the choir like this? Also – does the irony of decrying "politics of fear" never cause you the slightest twinge at Liberal hypocrisy?

      Yes, it's not good that the Conservatives are starting to descend to the levels plumbed by the Liberals. It's also not good that partisan Liberal supporters like yourself are content to wax lyrical about how bad such things are in a forum full of rabid supporters as though your party isn't far far worse. It's disgusting actually.

      • danby

        If your being full of disgust means that issues get discussed, then I'll gladly listen to your rant.
        No I do not like the way Stephen Harper conducts his business. Are the Liberals far, far worse? At this point I'm willing to risk finding out.
        By all means, if you have issues to debate, be my guest. Register for intense debate and bring them to the table. Articulate your POV and convince me.

        • guest

          you'll gladly listen to my "rant"? sure you will. you're so open-minded you've already decided it's a "rant".

          you don't like the way Harper conducts his business. no kidding. i would never have guessed. at "this point" you're willing to risk the Liberals? i've been reading Macleans comments for years. you've been a liberal partisan since you began commenting.

          i don't think I could convince you not to support the liberals. i don't think anyone or anything could. they could steal millions of dollars, slander millions of people, try to win re-election by demonizing their opponents, reverse themselves on wars they enter, precipitate a constitutional crisis at a time of grave economic uncertainty, and exhibit a general lack of honesty, decency, and competence and you'd still support them without question.

          if you wanted to be "convinved" you'd be on a conservative comment board listening to the other side of the story, not back-slapping your fellow cowards who need each others reassurance that conservatives are evil, that conservatism is stupid, and that you're all wonderful people. that's why you come here and preach to the choir. you know your allegiances can't stand up to a challenge so you come here to reinforce them. it's cowardly and revolting.

          • danby

            Where I choose to post is certainly my business, not yours, and I feel no need to gain your approval on anything.
            I come here and participate, and you are certainly free to do the same. You seem certain that I don't listen to the other side of the story. Congratulations, it must be very fulfilling to have such certainty.
            Personally, I find your banter witless and choose to no longer enable your crankiness; but feel free to lurk in the shadows and hurl your cowardly and revolting dross.
            Have a nice day life.

            sound of a tap running….
            hands sudsing and rinsing…..
            towel drying hands

  • Blue

    Yes, this was a great victory for the Liberals and friends today.
    They succeeded in shutting down further discussion about abolishing a law that has no useful purpose—a great day for all who abhor common sense..
    And yes Wherry is right –Harper was certainly floored by the passion of Ignatiefff today.
    And there are hints that Duceppe and Layton are talking again—-just a matter of time before Iggy joins in.
    It might be a good time for the coalitioners to force an Election.

    • JamesP

      The vote today in the house of commons was not about shutting down discussion on any topic. In fact, today's vote spurred a lot of impassioned and in most cases reasoned discussion surrounding gun control in this country. With any hope further discussion will produce a workable solution for both sides of the issue. Compromise and consensus building are common sense.

      If you feel the discussion has ended I implore you to reach out and continue to talk amongst your countrymen with dispassion and reason. Canadians of all political stripes have a responsibility to listen honestly to each other.

      • Blue

        James—Check the wording of the vote tonight—phrases like " the committee has heard sufficient testimony " and " recommends that the HOC does not proceed further " certainly sounds like the majority opposition shut down the topic of a useless gun regustry law while a minority gov`t wanted to proceed to further discussion and a vote on Bill C-391.

        • JamesP

          "That this Committee, pursuant to Standing Order 97.1 (1), recommends that the House of Commons do not proceed further with Bill C-391, An Act to amend the Criminal Code and the Firearms Act (repeal of long-gun registry), because the Committee has heard sufficient testimony that the bill will dismantle a tool that promotes and enhances public security and the safety of Canadian police officers."

          Stopping bill C-391 from proceeding in the commons will in no way suppress conversation on the gun registry whether it is in the House of Commons or elsewhere. It only stops bill C-391 from proceeding. It will be mentioned in Question Period tomorrow and for some time. Mr. Harper stated as much today.

          • Blue

            There`s been conversation about the registry for 20 years now.

            Common sense people were just hoping there would be enough courage in the HoC to allow it to go to a vote.

          • James Connors

            Parliament returns, Harper loses the first vote in the House. But that's just a start.

            "Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning."

            It's a slippery slope, Harper's a slippery guy. The descent will be, I'm guessing, precipitate.

          • JamesP

            A bill was introduced, the bill failed. A vote today or a vote tomorrow. Second reading or third.

            The long gun registry has it's problems and they should be fixed, but that's no reason to abolish the whole thing. If the electoral math and self interest of our politicians were taken out of the equation I'd wager we would have a solution tomorrow.

            The debate about gun control will no doubt continue for another 20 years or as long as someone can make political hay out of the emotions of those whose lives it affects. And as long as the discussion remains transfixed on the black and white, scrap or save issue of the long gun registry it is a distraction from more important issues. Abolishing or maintaining the registry won't pull us out of a recession, it won't fix our problems with health care, global competitiveness or end the war in Afghanistan.

            Let's work together as a country to fix this irritant and move on. Expending political capital to drag this out in order to win votes might be a fun game but it's not helping Canadians.

    • tedbetts

      And there folks will lie the idiocy of the entire "campaign against the coalition".

      If they band together to bring down the government – just like Harper did with the "separatists" and "socialists" – the "coalition" argument is essentially ended. If there really was a great bogeyman hiding in our ballot boxes, then why would the bogey man force an election instead of just trying to assert power, or, as Harper put it when the shoe was on the other foot "ask the GG to consider all her options"?

      If the opposition parties are willing to face the Canadian people, and let them decide, the "coalition" fantasy will be seen for the ridiculous position that it is.

      Gead – this is going to be good. All the Con presumptions are going to fall flat. All those millions and millions of dollars preparing and researching for an election come to nothing.

      Can't wait.

      • Blue

        That`s great ted—-I think Iggy and the gang are starting to feel really confident—-what a great victory this was tonight. Shutting down debate on such a divisive issue can only look good on all Liberals.

        Let`s hope your gung-ho-ness seeps all the way into the Lib war room.

        • Gayle

          Oh stop it. The government was not interested in debate. If they were they would have welcomed Layton's overture for compromise.

          I do not think you are silly enough to believe what you say. Why do you think the rest of us are?

          • Phil_King

            Why even listen to guys like that? Honestly, it never matters what happens, he and people like him simply choose to view every instance through a partisan defensive lens.

            If it had failed he'd mock the Libs and Dips for being undisciplined and incapable.

            There's essentially no result that isn't going to draw ridicule from hardcore partisans.

            Even I can compliment Harper on some issues, but do you think you'll ever see that kind of grace from a partisan Con?

            Don't bet the farm on it.

    • Trudeau lover

      Don't worry Blue, if thats you're real name, we followers of the Liberal Separatist party are going to take these Harper Cons down before you can say "Adscam". A little more "culture wars" outta do the trick, and then we Liberal/Separatists will be "back to power". Our media goons are going to do what our leader, American Igg said over a year ago, "we're going to take Mr. Harper down, we're going to take him down hard".

  • Pele

    "compassion, decency and a commitment to equality"

    That's code for political correctness, big government bureaucracy and a commitment to thieving a bigger chunk of hard working Canadians' paychecks.

    The gun registry is too expensive for what it provides. It makes no sense. Too little bang for the buck. The whole issue is cloaked in emotionalism on the side of the pros and pragmatism on the side of the cons. I prefer a government with common sense.

  • Trudeau lover

    I can't wait till the next election! American Igg, our inserted leader of the Liberal Bloc party is going to knock Harper out in the first round ! Harper and his Cons are on the ropes, and we will continue to pummel him with our "culture wars" and our divide and conquer upper cuts! Our Liberal friends incrusted in the media will sucker punch Harper when he isn't looking, and when he falls we Liberals/Separatists and NDP's will jump in and kick him to the curb so hard he won't be able to walk. We liberals will have Harper so staggered and concussed he'll be screaming "Trudeaumania" ! Take that Cons! There's a new tough guy in town and his name is American Igg, the enforcer of the Liberal/Bloc party, get used to it Cons, the Igg is going to punch you're face in.

    • Emily

      Kindly stop pretending to be a Liberal. Nobody's buying it.

      • Observant

        That you, Nola …????

      • Phil_King

        Oh no, by all means let him continue.

        It demonstrates the silliness of the Con perspective in a clear and concise manner.

        Nobody's buying it, thus everyone can see it for what it is, and that reflects on their position, not the Liberals.

  • Judge Roy Bean

    Iggy's PR team is at it again. Yellow journalism at its best.

  • Pele

    Oh yeah, don't forget, once a government bureaucracy is established it automatically attempts to evolve and grow. (like a blood-sucking parasite) This is so it can continually siphon an ever-increasing portion of taxpayer money so as to fund its' perpetually expanding stable of card-carrying public union workers with their ridiculously greedy bargaining agreements.

    Let's be careful not to create something that later we'll regret. (I'm thinking of Greece's example, for instance) In other words, don't get fooled by all the emotional rhetoric. It's about the bureaucracy.

    • bennji1977

      Sounds like the PMO.

    • DianeG

      It's certainly not all about the beurocracy. What piffle!

      • Pele

        Then what's it about? The registry is only somewhat helpful to the police. It's usefulness isn't worth the cost to the taxpayer. It's a bad fiscal decision. There are better ways to spend less money to get better results.

        I don't see how a bunch of politicians crying and saying things like "if only one life is saved it's worth it" in any way affects the lousy cost-effectiveness or poor value of the gun registry. It's really just about the bureaucracy.

        Let me put it this way; you wouldn't spend that much of your household budget on something with such little return. Why do you think it's okay to overspend taxpayer money? Remember, it doesn't grow on trees. People work for it.

    • Phil_King

      "…once a government bureaucracy is established it automatically attempts to evolve and grow…"

      Which is why their census move made no sense. Until now we had a simple census that was mailed out every five years.

      Once the full implications of the change hit we'll have to start mining all government records to make up for the lack of data, and boy oh boy will that ever increase the bureaucracy.

      Mark my words.

      • Pele

        I tend to agree. The only thing that bothered me about the census was the threat of jail time. Once that is removed, might as well keep the thing. (it does produce some fairly cost-effective information, after all) Overall, I feel the census is decent value for taxpayer money.

  • chet

    Portray a scene in the most flattering light to Iggy and the most unflattering light to Harper.

    This isn't, as suggested above, yellow Journalism.

    This is plain ol propaganda, masquarading as news "analysis".

    • bettie

      Exactly! He has Mr. Harper whining, tattling, huffing all within a couple of sentences. We who watch QP see Mr. Harper behaving professionally. It goes to show that when one has a bias, it colours everything (yellow, in this case).

      I don't know how Mr. Harper can be so even keeled with all the invectives and falsehoods hurled at him by four opposition parties and the (almost entire) media.

      A bit of objectivity would be appreciated.

      • guest

        i don't care about wherry's blatant lack of objectivity. i just wish he'd call himself what he is: a loyal propagandist rather than a reporter.

        • Observant

          … goebbellian propagandist …???!!!!!!

      • hollinm

        bettie…..that will never happen. The MacLeans board is turning into the Globe and Mail comment board with Wherry leading the charge. I particuarly went back to look at Question Period after I read Wherry's post. He must be in some sort ot la la land. I saw nothing of which he described. In fact I don't recall hearing Ignatieff say the pithy comment that Wherry attributes to him. Of course it could have been in French which I always fast forward on my PVR. The translation is terrible.
        Of course the Harper haters on this board just love Wherry. It gives them a chance to express their frustrations because their leader and party are going no where in a hurry.

    • Gayle

      "When Mr. Ignatieff is not tentatively jabbing at his opponent, he often swings wildly—sweeping overhand rights that finish a foot or two off the mark and leave the Liberal leader off balance and prone for a counterattack."

      Yup. Sure sounds like he is falling all over Ignatieff.

      You people and your paranoid conspriacy theories.

      • Phil_King

        Precisely what I was thinking. Seems to me Wherry was slamming Ignatief as "usually" an incompetent, while characterizing Harper as "usually" on top.

        So frankly the undertone was speaking of the CPC like they're the natural heavy hitters while the LPC is a bunch of flakes.

        How that is complimentary of the LPC is beyond me, though of course Wherry was also slamming the PM at the same time.

  • Placentia Bay Ex-Pat

    Wherry seems to be quite pleased with Iggy's response,right hook no less, if iggy ever did connect with a right hook or left jab for that matter i suspect he would quickly have to hit the nearest facilities to clean the load from his draws.Right hook indeed,liberal hack media they are everywhere and don't even try to hide it anylonger.Will Macleans only report liberal freindly stories along the lines of the CBC,come to think of it i didn't see anything about the latest liberal scandle in Que,maybe i just didn't look hard enough, right that must be it.

    • Aongasha

      And in the meantime the oh so friendly media continues to ignore the charges of collusion with the Liberals levelled against the CBC and being investigated by the Ombudsman. Like in the US, the lame stream media can have their slavish love affair with the left wing opposition, but as there the ordinary folks here know what the real issues are and they are not those outlined by the elites of the Parliament Hill press gallery.

    • Richard_S_Argent

      Frankly, for someone from the same place as my forebearers, I expect better.

    • Trudeau lover

      Yeah, and you're not going to hear anything about continued Liberal corruption because we Liberals don't care, and that includes are media stooges. If you wanna read or see stories about Liberal corruption than go and get your own media goons. When will these Cons get it!

  • theintellectual

    harper has clearly been leader for too long and in any other circumstance i would want another election. sadly it would appear we have no one worthy to take his place. ignatieff strikes me as yet another empty opposition leader who simply says anything to get into power. layton and green are overt socialists and the bloc…. well i dont think they need description. my friends, we are at a low point in canadian politics.

    • Observant

      Majority of polled Canadians consider PM Harper to be MOST competent, MOST trustworthy, BEST vision for Canada.

      Looks like yer not in the Canadian mainstream opinion … and you could be incompetent in your assessment of Stephen Harper as PM of Canada for the last 4 years … and another 2 years until October 2012 when his legislated term is completed.

      After that, it will be Stephen Harper, versus a new Liberal leader, a new Dipper leader, and a new Separatist leader. LizzieMay may still be the Green leader. Coalition Troika Junta … anybody …???!!!!

      • Richard_S_Argent

        Funny thing about that – who do you think polled as the MOST competent, MOST trustworthy, [and had the] BEST vision for Canada in 2005?

        (hint – it wasn't Harper)

      • Phil_King

        Sometimes a majority only means that all the idiots are on the same side.

      • theintellectual

        Competent? for sure. best vision for Canada? up for some debate. but most trustworthy? I feel like he's pulled way too many fast ones to be trustworthy in my book. but then its not like we have many better options so i guess we might as well stick with him.

  • Observant

    …. aka .. LMM … Lamestream Media Maggots.

  • http://www.cherniaklawyer.com Jason Cherniak

    It's odd reading this account, because the answers to the first two questions don't seem much better than the third or forth. Did it come across that much differently live?

  • Emily

    Food for thought…this is a blog, not a news report.

  • Philanthropist

    The 1st American Prime Minister in waiting is lecturing Canadians about what now?…..

  • Trudeau lover

    I really don't appreciate you're belittling of the very wise, and quite brilliant, Steve Dion, he was the best PM we ever had, with the exception of Pierre the mystic one, he really knew how to kick the country in the groin.

  • fly-on-the-wall

    Harper is a street fighter, nothing more. His ego doesn't allow co-operation. He's never had Canada or Canadian's best interests at heart. His allegiance is with the US RightWing Religious group who he takes his orders from. He is a very angry man who allows no discussion, no dissent, no voice but his. Canada's reputation has been ruined under his authoritarian rule. Worst fiscal manager of all time $20B spent in 72 hours. He is a very scary individual who wastes taxpayer $$. Time for him to go.

    • guest

      Do you truly believe this???
      You want scary……where's that fly swatter when I need it.

    • Pele

      Not sure what to say fly. I like Steve. Not too keen on Iggy. That said, over-exaggerating the evil or incompetance of those you disagree with is just childish.

      Explain why you disagree with Harper from a non-extremist, objective, non-ninnified point of view and it might actually have some weight. Right now it's all just chaffe.

    • Trudeau lover

      I would love to see our brilliant wallflower and statesman Jean Chretin strangle Mr. Harper right of office. If that doesn't work he could always use the RCMP to kick down Harpers door and have him arrested for not being smart enough to be a Liberal. If only Pierre could come back and plunge the country into a colossal debt, than those Cons would maybe get it, but I doubt it. Harper is scary, if he was a Liberal he wouldn't be so scary, and really if he was a Liberal he wouldn't be scary at all, no matter what he did. How dare he try and get rid of the money wasting scheme of the Long Gun Registry, thank heaven we Liberals have the Separatists and the NDP to stop this scariness.

  • subversible

    Mr. Wherry.

    I fail to see how this "wild punch" actually "connected". I'm sure you'd very much like for Iggy to land a shot and gain some momentum in the upcoming election, but unfortunately the only person you are making "dizzy" with your "spin" is yourself. Please take better notes next time.

  • artcimelt

    Quite frankly, even the bulliest of bullies can be taken down with a strategic, well coordinated, swift kick to the cahones..down for the count! If Mr. Harper is not scripted or rehearsed, quite frankly, he appears lost. Ever wonder why he avoids scrums with journalists…not in his element, his thoughts don't seem to respond to spontaneity in timely fashion!

  • Brian Leslie Engler

    Hello all;

    Whenever I hear the word "coalition", "coalitionists', etc. as used by Conservatives and their "hacks" I do a mental translation:

    "Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition"

    I am not a monarchist, but as that is the official title of the collective Members who sit on the opposite side of the house from Her Majesty's government, it works for me . . .

    After all, we do live in a constitutional monarchy; like it or not. Just ask the Governor General, for instance.

  • Philanthropist

    Where are all the Liberal posts screaming 'Yankee go home'? Perhaps because the Liberals can't campaign on the usual anti-Americanism they just won't be able to win with Iggy? Maybe Elizabeth May should be Liberal leader?

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