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Here's a crazy thought, Chantal

by Paul Wells on Friday, October 1, 2010 11:19am - 0 Comments

No political commentator working in Canada today is read with as much anticipation as Chantal Hébert. She’s obviously the class of the field, and I’m belabouring the point only because her column today is rather spectacularly beneath her usual standards.

In early 2009 I spoke to a pretty conservative audience in Toronto. (OK, it was a Fraser Institute event, an error of youth I won’t repeat.) I was in a fair snit about the Harper government at that time, and I uncorked a long list of critiques of the way the prime minister was going about his business: arbitrary, contradictory, yadda yadda. Frosty applause when I finally stopped. The question-and-answer period began, and a dotty matron dressed, approximately, like Milburn Drysdale drew herself up to her full height and said, as one might to an idiot: “Yes, well, that’s all very good, but what would you prefer? Would you prefer that… that… Michael Ignatieff and his gang govern the country?” She awaited my response with the grand satisfaction of somebody who had shut a troublemaker up but good.

Well, no, I replied, or at least not necessarily. There is another option: the government we already have could govern better.

I have no idea whether this response satisfied my silly interrogator, but I’m stuck believing it was the right answer anyway. I think it’s fair of citizens to demand that public figures live up to certain standards without regard to their party stripe. I don’t even think that’s a hard question. So I was really surprised to see Chantal arguing, in effect, that Quebecers should put up with an awful government because at least it’s a federalist one.

Indeed, long before Maclean’s invested itself with the ultimately failed journalistic mission of outing Quebec as the most corrupt province in Canada, Jean Charest’s Liberal regime had become a long shot for re-election.

But in a spirit of consistency, will Maclean’s also encourage Quebecers to turn to the Parti Québécois in the next provincial election?

If that were the case, the editors of the magazine would be demonstrating an uncommon amount of abnegation on behalf of their readers for precious few Canadians crave for a return to the unity wars of the ‘80s and ‘90s.

Here, Chantal is echoing the many, many commenters under our blogs — always an uninspiring precedent — who pointed out that the reformers in Quebec were sovereignists and the business-as-usual crowd were federalists. This is absolutely true. It’s a really big problem for federalism. But it doesn’t actually get federalists off the hook. “Well, we can run a pig sty here, because look who’ll get the job if we don’t!”

Chantal ends her column by asking how Andrew Coyne would vote in the next Quebec election. I have tried hard to confect an interest in that hypothetical, but it’s just not happening. (I look forward to her next column, in which I presume she’ll wonder whether André Pratte is getting ready to vote PQ.) Citizens’ engagement does not end with their vote. It also includes, or should, a daily and indeed automatic expectation that the winners of the last vote live up to certain standards until the next. I’m so used to seeing Chantal Hébert maintain that kind of expectation that I’m surprised to see her take a break from that standard.

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  • chrimartel

    The quote I wish I had pronounced:

    "There is words and there is fighting words. Nothing that sets Quebecers more a flammed than a us-vs-them dichotomy that pits English Canada against Quebec. If you don't believe that, just look at who's got the biggest smile on their face and it is Gilles Duceppe." – Alan Gregg, At Issue panel

    He is utmostly right, most Canadian has a found respect for Quebecers, and vice-versa, but we mostly debate big mouths whose are thriving the worst of nationalism (both Canadian and Quebecois)

  • westmalle

    The many "political commentors" (as opposed to political reporters of which we need much more") can casually spew all kinds of invective and innuendo about politicians (the recent publication of "Harperland" has now subjected us to all manner of journalists who think they are qualified to psycho-analyse the PM – ruthless hateful control, freak, etc, etc. Please just stop!!) but when one journalist questions or criticizes another, well watch out. Mr Coyne's defensive "how dare you criticize me" was unbecoming.

    Chantal and our host are at their very best when they are reporting on something (especially in Quebec). Not commenting. I don't care about their comments. I need their information and yes! insight. (I put Joel-Denis Bellavance of La Press in that category as well – informative).

    Please stick to reporting.There are already too many Craig Oliver wannabes out there. You reporters report and I will read and then make up my own mind whether Quebec or PEI or BC is the most corrupt province. Thank you.

    (PS I really liked Chantal's response to Peter Mansbridge drooling over this BS claim in Lawrence Martin's book that Harper was going to appeal the the Queen. Her expression on her face was priceless).

    • Orson Bean

      If that means Chantal thinks Lawrence Martin is a hack, I respect her even more than I already did.

    • http://ragingranter.blogspot.com Raging_Ranter

      Actually, I find the commentary of Coyne, Wells, & Hebert to be quite invaluable. If they were simply reduced to mindlessly reporting on politics, I couldn't be bothered to read any of them. Just because much of today's political commentary amounts to little more than childish spew (e.g. the Harperland silliness you just mentioned) does not mean that it is all worthless. If all I wanted was "reporting", with no analysis or thoughtful opinion, I would simply turn on the TV and rely on the (much prettier) faces on the 6 o'clock news. You say you desire reporting as well as "insight". Well, there's no way to deliver insight without offering an opinion, and making some conclusions (e.g. Quebec is the most corrupt province), which pretty much sounds like the commentary that you seem to loathe so much.

  • BC Voice of Reason

    Political Correctness has a negative influence on everything.

    The most political correctness surrounds the First Nations. There is no accountability for the billions spent, no debate and no hope. All indications is that by any measurement First Nations society is a complete and utter failure. No politician or media will dare point out that it is a failed society.

    The next most political correct area surrounds the Quebec nation. By all indications it is a failed society. It is mired in corruption and exists only on handouts from the rest of Canada. It has no long term chance of success BUT if someone like Macleans points out the obvious…. it may lead to the discussion of what is wrong with the society of the Quebec Nation…… why is it so corrupt, why does it have no leadership, why with all its natural gifts is it a perennial have not province … they get unanimously censured in Parliament!!!!

    It is way way way too politically incorrect to even consider that possibility.

    • Guest

      You should be reminded that its Ontario and Quebec that invested in developing your oil business and equalization payments were started as handouts for Alberta. You want to talk about a failed society just look at what your oil sands project is doing to your water supply.

    • Guess

      Someday you may be looking at Ontario for not only handouts but your drinking water too.

    • Holly Stick

      Some First Nations administrations are good, some are poor. It is a racist act to treat them as all the same and to denigrate them as such; and to declare their society a failure shows a deep ignorance on your part.

      To generalise about the people of Quebec is bigotry and just as heinous as racism. Try to broaden your mind a little and see them as your fellow human beings.

  • Simon

    One thing ought to make everyone here wonder : Corruption is the act of federalists, not of separatists.

    Who are the sellouts? Pierre Drouilly, a Universite de Montreal sociologist demonstrated in the end of the 1990's that educated middle-class french workers where in a large proportion separatists. 61% of francophones (and way more among french canadians, and again way more among educated french canadians) voted yes. Federalists represent an alliance of the richest, the poorest, and the near totality of allophones and anglophones.

    there is the problem… an old, colonialism related problem.

    Again. Corruption is federalist, corruption is liberal. So, Chantal ask, what do you suggest? Moral incantation or credible sociological study?

    to read, if you can read the « other » language : http://bock-cote.net/Le-federalisme-rentable

    If not, I suggest you read Jean-François Lisée.

  • John W.

    Even if it's a small rump to start, small "l" liberals and NDP in Quebec have to start a left of centre party to start building an alternative. Obviously starting a new right leaning party didn't work. Quebec needs a left party to provide a future home for unhappy PQ's and left leaning Liberals will be the only long term solution.

  • Simon

    So you hesitate between corruption and Quebec's independance? Are you even from Quebec? You would consider corruption in order to maintain Quebec in Canada?

    Vivement la liberté, pour ma part!

    Enough with colonial oppression.

    • Orson Bean

      "Colonial oppression"?

      What other causes are you advocating? Women's suffrage? And end to the Chinese head tax?

      • ColdStanding

        Good one!

    • BCer in Mtl

      Dude, you already have la liberté. If you don't, kindly point out in what way. As for colonialism, thats a laugh, Quebec only has the largest per capita civil service in North America, and it ain't the anglos or immigrants bums in those seats. As colonial oppressors, we're doing a crappy job, given the taxes we pay to sustain all those fonctionnaires.

      That said, there in no doubt corruption is completely undesirable (other provinces are equally bad if not worse). But if Quebec were independent, what 's to say corruption would not be present here as well? . . . nature abhors a vacuum.

      And how would an independent Quebec act towards minorities? Judging from PQ policy conventions, not very good, as they often focus on discussion of coercive measures towards minorities. What would prevent a newly independent Quebec led by PQ ideologues from enacting discriminatory measures towards their perceived opponents, after all they would have been waiting their whole lives for that moment. Between corruption and that, I'll take corruption . . . at least there is a possibility of cleaning it up.

  • Guest

    Can't you see that this is the problem : federalists are corrupted and you support them. Yes, corruption is in part due to the national question in Québec : Canada has to buy federalists loyalty. But people from Maclean's blame separatists!

    Can't you see the problem?

  • Kaplan

    I wonder if Maclean's will employ the Patriquin approach the their annual ranking of universities? You know, just send a couple of reporters around to interview current and former students, download some old reports and studies, commission a few polls (hopefully before the ranking is published, haha) and presto! Totally awesome and controversial cover story!!

  • westmalle

    Speaking of reporting, I would really like to know why Alan Tonks (L- York South Weston) was the only Liberal/opposition MP to vote with the Government to help defeat Gerard Kennedy's US deserter PMB this week (17 Liberals, including Ignatieff were absent from the House for the vote – all other Liberals, NDP and Bloc voted for the Kennedy bill). Nobody has reported on this. What's going on? Do Tonks and Kennedy get along? Do Tonks and Ignatieff get along? Did Tonks detect that a vote for Kennedy's bill would hurt him politically?

    Can someone please do some political reporting for a change? We're suffering out here!

  • madeyoulook

    Here, Chantal is echoing the many, many commenters under our blogs — always an uninspiring precedent — who pointed out that the reformers in Quebec were sovereignists and the business-as-usual crowd were federalists. This is absolutely true. It’s a really big problem for federalism. But it doesn’t actually get federalists off the hook.

    Here are a couple of crazy thoughts, Paul:

    1) Hébert is lamenting the awful choices facing Quebecers (well, the federalist ones, anyways): a "blind eye to corruption" and "snubbing Canada." I have read her column twice, and I do not see her getting "a fatigued and increasingly discredited federalist party" off the hook. Those are your words ("off the hook"), not hers. And they are unfair words.

    2) If the conversation is so uninspiring under your blogs, you have the power to turn them off. Without, you know, insulting your audience.

  • Mulletaur

    A lot of people have grabbed hold of the wrong end of the stick here. Chantal was merely pointing out the reality of Quebec, that those who don't want a provincial government that's corrupt have little choice but to go sovereignist, and they get hit by English Canada either way. It was a reaction based on her gut feelings and her reactions as a Québécoise. Sure, there are other possibilities, but they are just not on offer in Quebec provincial politics. Easy to sit in Toronto and poke fun at the corruption in Quebec, but what solution is on offer by the English intelligencia ? None, apparently.

    In any case, the whole basis of this article is ridiculous. It wasn't that long ago in Ontario that you had to be a member of the Progressive Conservative Party in good standing to be able to get a job in what was then called Brewers Retail. It's no use Ontarians like Coyne or anybody else from any other province for that matter being sanctimonious about corruption in Quebec. It only causes bad feelings without addressing the fundamental problem of our political culture.

    The fundamental problem that nobody talks about is that we are very badly served by our mediocre political class in this country. We need to stop dumping on the profession and start encouraging good people who are smart, motivated and publicly spirited to run for office. And we need to start voting for them too. Perhaps then we will get people who are willing to take on the entrenched interests that stop us from realizing our potential.

  • Reverend_Blair

    Kind of off-topic in a semi-related kind of way, but why is Quebec being singled out as the most corrupt? What's the time-limit on that, since I lived in Saskatchewan under the Devine government? What about BC? Hell, what about the feds, past and present?

    I don't disagree that there is corruption in Quebec politics, but it seems to me that there's some pretty serious competition for "most corrupt."

    And to the topic of Inkless' excellent column:

    Yes, internet comment boards are generally a pit of vipers. That's why moderators are necessary. That doesn't make either the boards or the commenters without value though. Even people calling each other names sometimes make valid points.

    As for why a government has to be thrown out instead of just governing better, my thinking is that once they get into a pattern of behaviour it is extremely unlikely that they will change. Even if they do manage to change though, it is likely that the fallout from the scandals will keep coming out, eventually crippling the government.

  • s_c_f

    I think Chantal has a point actually. She's saying that you can't have it both ways. If you're willing to criticize, you have to be willing to go all the way.

    If you're willing to vote for them no matter what they do, they you're asking for corruption.

    Wells is being a little disingenuous to suggest that asking them to do better will work. If that would work, dictatorships would not be so bad. Sometimes the only solution is to throw the bums out. And if corruption is as bad as they say it is, this would be one of those times.

    That's when you need a third option. Something like, say, a tea party, a group of people who fight to reform one of the parties from the inside out. The Liberals in Quebec need to be tea-partied: the establishment needs to be tossed and the party needs renewal.

    • s_c_f

      Well, Wells has a point. What he says is a logical argument. I just happen to disagree with it. I just don't think it's reasonable to expect that you can change things much by trying to make leaders better. Hebert and Wells have both made their points, I don't think either one is a drama queen, I think it's just a matter of who you happen to agree with.

      • Olivier

        The thing is, the LP of Q is in no way Tea Party-able. The thing is locked down and controlled from the top. They survive this or they get replaced by another party and go the way of the dodo / union nationale

  • jawnbc

    I think you've overstated her ostensive argument Paul. She's merely saying that the political spectrum in Québec can be bifurcated multiples ways–ways that don't align tidily. Federalist or sovereigntist versus ethical or less ethical versus economic stewardship versus…well, crappy economic stewardship.

  • chet

    Except no political action occurs within a vaccum.

    No leader exists without context.

    "What is the alternative" is the ultimate context. And it also adds the essential recognition that no policy, leader, position is without fault.

    Ultimately the choice will become a lesser of two evils (knowing one cannot live in a utopia) and it is that very choice that serves to make each political party better.

  • chet

    And so Canadians, may view Harper as a very imperfect politician (as they all are) but, quite rightly, conclude that compared to the alternative in Iggy, he is the epitome of perfection.

    • Reverend_Blair

      I don't like Iggy, but compared to Harper he'd be…well…competent. It'd be a breath of fresh air after these last few years.

      • chet

        Electing someone solely because they'd be "fresh" is to employ a dangerous wishful thinking that change per se is inevitably good.

        As we are seeing with the election of Obama, change can be very very bad.

        Frankly, there is nothing in Iggy's background, or his current policies (to the extent one can discern them in his constant whirlwind of shifting positions) that should give Canadians any comfort that Iggy can make Canada a better place, and much evidence that he can make it much, much worse.

        • Reverend_Blair

          So you're saying that George Bush was better than Obama?

          • Holly Stick

            I fear that Iggy is also too "conservative" and corporatist and his government would not work as well for Canadians as a more centrist government would, but he would not be as authoritarian or as hateful as Harper is.

          • chet

            Harper's democratically elected, into a minority government that can be voted out at the will of the opposition…

            and yet he's described as "authoritarian".

            Is Harper THAT much of a genius, or are his detractors THAT divorced from reality.

            Or perhaps the answer lies somewhere in between.

  • Reverend_Blair

    Actually it did seem below her usual standards to me too. Usually her writing is a little crisper and her argument more clear, whether I agree with her or not. I figure they can't all be gems though, and I'm pretty sure that even our friend Inkless has written a thing or two that was maybe not as good as he would have liked.

  • chet

    Harper's government could be better, as any government can.

    But Iggy's Liberals could be much, much worse. How bad?

    Stealing tens of millions in taxpayer dollers and funnelling them to the Liberal party, bad.

    Enacting another massive government entitlement program ("free childcare" for all) at a cost that would make the billion dollar gun registry boondoggle look like pocket change, bad.

    Engaging in a "green" agenda that would kill Canada's golden egg laying goose, while driving a wedge between the west and the ROC that would make the Quebec issue look like a minor tiff, bad.

    The ideas that Iggy's Liberals have been toying with could be devastating.

    Now, let us get back to complaining that the CPC wants to reduce the length of a FORTY page probing mandatory document (the nerve!).

    • Reverend_Blair

      Over a billion on the G8/G20.
      The In and Out scandal.
      Letting Dean Del Mastro speak in public.
      16 billion…and likely a lot more due to cost over-runs…on jets.
      Destroying Canada's reputation on the world stage.
      Spending an extra $30 million to make the census data next to useless.
      Millions on signs.
      Everything in Tony Clement's riding.
      Having no environmental plan whatsoever.
      First denying there was a recession, then having no coherent plan to deal with it.
      Firing/smearing civil servants for doing their jobs.
      Silencing scientists. And appointing a creationist chiropractor as science minister.

      I can go on, of course, but the point is that it's doubtful that even Iggy could be worse than this Harper bunch.

      • chet

        Faux scandals or baseless smears. Each and every one of them. Only a partisan Liberal would believe any of those could be mentioned in the same discussion as Adscam.

        I especially like "Destroying Canada's reputation on the world stage", when only partisan Liberals believe that – while the "world stage" marvels at how Canada has overcome the worldwide recession and is near surplus territory,

        and while it was Iggy, blatantly trying to destroy our reputation for pure political gain, by smearing "Harper's Canada" re: the UNSC.

        • Holly Stick

          Harper has embarrassed us before the world at the UN, at environment meetings, and in many other ways, including his undemocratic behaviour in proroguing Parliament twice and in refusing as a minority ogvernment to work with elected members of Parliament of other parties.

          He is the worst Prime Minister we have ever had, and his rightwing religious nutbar stupid MPs are the worst cabinet. The few intelligent ones have been neutered.

          • chet

            And yet the more Canadians see of him the more thay like, giving him greater votes with each successive election.

  • Reverend_Blair

    Nice try, chet, but I've never voted Liberal in my life. It's pretty clear that you've gotten your talking points from the Conservative Party though.

  • Holly Stick

    So anyway, why is Peter Mackay taking orders from a rightwing religious nutbar? Why is he attacking freedom of speech? And where are all the rightwing defenders of free speech?

    Did Harper order him to do so, or is Harper also taking orders from McVety? When exactly did Canada declare war on all Muslims? Isn't that kind of racist?
    http://drdawgsblawg.blogspot.com/2010/10/in-which…
    http://www.pogge.ca/archives/002981.shtml?utm_sou…

    • Holly Stick

      When did the Government of Harper decide to launch a Crusade? Is that in those documents about tortured Afghan detainees, which they still have failed to produce?
      http://stageleft.blogspot.com/2010/10/guilt-by-as…
      http://thegallopingbeaver.blogspot.com/2010/10/ca…

      • Holly Stick

        Is freedom of speech only for journalists at Macleans? Where is the outrage that a good man is being silenced by a dishonest politicians and rightwing religious fanatics and racists?

        • Holly Stick

          And another one. What's the matter, is the media being lame again?

          • Holly Stick

            Speaking of lame I forgot the link:
            http://rustyidols.blogspot.com/2010/10/moderate-m…

          • Holly Stick

            "…Zijad Delic is not just director of the CIC. He is also a refugee of a particularly vicious war. A war where Canadian Forces members sacrificed blood, treasure, and often sanity in an attempt to safeguard the lives of Delic and millions of other non-combatants…

            …Zijad Delic shares an intimate and haunted history with members of the institution he would have addressed if Peter Mackay hadn't prevented him from doing so…"
            http://thegallopingbeaver.blogspot.com/2010/10/ou…

  • Guest

    The analogy does not work, Mr. Wells. The situations are not at all similar. Sloppy thinking on your part, and disappointing. And both Hebert and Alan Greg demolished your colleague Coyne's lame attempt to defend the article on CBC a while back.

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