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The Commons: There once was a woman from Montreal

by Aaron Wherry on Monday, October 4, 2010 6:25pm - 0 Comments

The Scene. Michael Ignatieff had a story to tell. A story about a woman he’d met in Montreal this summer. A woman who was caring for her two ailing parents at home, her father insufficiently supported as a military veteran. Mr. Ignatieff figured there were three million Canadians like this woman in Montreal. And so how, Mr. Ignatieff, wondered, could the government explain spending $6-billion on corporate tax cuts instead of helping families like hers?

John Baird, the Prime Minister’s designated stand-in, stood to reassure the woman. “Mr. Speaker,” he said, “I can say to the woman that the opposition leader meant that our government has made an unprecedented commitment to veterans, an unprecedented commitment to our men and women in uniform, to ensure that they get the care that they need after they so bravely served our country.”

Whether or not this mollified the woman’s concerns, it did not satisfy Mr. Ignatieff.

“Mr. Speaker, the woman I met in Montreal this summer looks out at a world in which her government is spending $1.3 billion on a G8-G20 summit, $16 billion on planes without a competitive bid, triples the publicity budget of the government, and is about to give big corporations a $6 billion tax break,” he said.

There were shouts from the government side quibbling with the opposition leader’s accounting. Laurie Hawn, for instance, seemed to suggest the cost of new fighter jets was a mere $9-billion.

“The question she wants answered by the government is, ‘What about my priorities? When am I going to matter?’” Mr. Ignatieff finished.

Mr. Baird stood to plead his case, chopping his right hand and pumping his fist, mouthing platitudes about his side and moaning scorn on a Liberal government that was last in power some four years and ten months ago.

With his last intervention, Mr. Ignatieff repeated his concerns, with a slight twist on the provocation. “When is the government going to pay some attention to the growing needs of Canadian families for home care assistance?” he wondered aloud. “When is it going to get its priorities right?”

So provoked, Mr. Baird stood to reassure everyone within earshot. ”Mr. Speaker, for this woman in Montreal,” he offered, “her priorities are our government’s priorities.”

The predominance of the women from Montreal would not go unchallenged though.

“Mr. Speaker, Frank Rainville is a senior in Sturgeon Falls, Ontario who told me about how his bills for basic utilities have gone up by $20 a month just this past month because of the government’s HST,” the NDP’s Jack Layton reported a short time later. “He asked me how he could cope with heating bills when he has to turn the thermostat on because it is cold up there. The fact is heating bills are going up all across the country and working families are struggling right now. Will the Prime Minister show some leadership, join with us and work to take the federal sales tax off home heating fuel now?”

Mr. Baird offered a confusing metaphor in response. “I welcome the NDP members aboard the tax cutting train,” he said, “but they are too late. The train has left the station.”

With his second opportunity, Mr. Layton upped the rhetorical ante, suggesting that instead of subsidizing the oil industry, the government might provide a heating bill exemption not only for Mr. Rainville, but—to use a wonderful French phrase—for “M. et Mme Tout-le-Monde.”

In a rare stumble, Mr. Baird met this with a suggestion that Mr. Layton take the matter up with the NDP government in Nova Scotia, where a similar harmonized sales tax has recently been adopted. “Maybe he should visit Halifax,” Mr. Baird huffed. And here, with some glee, Mr. Layton enjoyed the opportunity to point out the punchline into which Mr. Baird had just walked.

“Mr. Speaker,” he shot back, “the NDP government in Halifax just took the sales tax off home heating bills.”

And so it was settled that if Mr. Rainville is expecting any relief, he might consider a move east before the weather gets much colder.

The Stats. Ministerial staff, nine questions. Taxation, five questions. The economy and the Quebec City arena, four questions each. Infrastructure, the G20, waterways, economic development, Zajid Delic and the environment, two questions each. Lobbying, immigration, foreign affairs, student debt and veterans, one question each.

John Baird, 16 answers. Vic Toews and Lawrence Cannon, three answers each. Josee Verner, Chuck Strahl, Gail Shea, Keith Ashfield, Peter MacKay and Mike Lake, two answers each. Peter Van Loan, Jason Kenney, Christian Paradis, Diane Finley and Jean-Pierre Blackburn, one answer each.

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  • Orson Bean

    Re: Iggy's question — looks like Lawrence Martin's column the other day was correct — Iggy & Co. are seizing on home care as an election issue.

    • M_A_D_world

      It puts identifiable faces on the issue because it really does matter to most Canadians of the costs/sacrifices needed to provide care for dependants. The Liberals are starting it out right by telling it as a story of a real person rather screaming and finger stabbing. Baird was very much the wrong choice to answer these questions that he either had no interest in or knowledge.
      The time for blaming past governments for todays ills is passing.

      • Harvey Mushman

        Unfortunately…who is going to believe that they would ever do it if they actually got elected?

        • D.D.S

          You mean like an elected senate…..or no taxing of income trusts….or openess and transparancy…
          ….I don't believe ANY politician……………but I DO believe that first they should do no harm and Harper is …I think….doing damage

  • Emily

    ZING!

    Baird walked right into that one!

    • Cats

      Yeah! They exempted home heating fuel.

      Now if only they could do something about the groceries, the electric, the phone and all the other daily necessities they raised the cost of…

      If only Cats ….

      • madeyoulook

        Most groceries are GST/HST exempt.

        • Cats

          Um no.

          The average cost of basic living expenses are rebated to lower income individuals in the form of a cheque.

          There is no price point exemptions.

          Stephen Gordon has criticized the NDP for wanting to make home heating fuel HST exempt.

          Why do rich people need an HST exemption ?? Why not just increase the pay out of rebates ?

          Cats wants to know.

          • JoeC

            Um no. There isn't any tax on most food you buy at the grocery store.

            Maybe your confusion comes from our dietary differences. The rest of us here don't eat cat food, which is taxed.

          • madeyoulook

            Wow. The feline ignorance is a little thick. Ask your human slave to buy some real groceries at a real grocery store, and have a peek at the bill.

          • D.D.S

            good grief…..

          • RunningGag

            Why do rich people need an HST exemption ?? Why not just increase the pay out of rebates ?

            When a person is living week to week, the difference between not paying GST/HST now, and receiving a rebate check in three months, is significant.

    • M_A_D_world

      He did and badly. Making rebuttal from the hip and he got burned.

  • Rufusrastasjonsonbrn

    Sounds like Mike is starting to do Jacks kitchen table schtick.If the media was interested in more than 15 second sound bites,a little research could give this story a little more credibility.What exactly is the real story?Dad gets a veterans pension and Mom gets ?,Caretaker daughter gets?Sounds like the NDP provincial agencys are a failure.

  • madeyoulook

    Wow. Baird blew that one. Too bad, too, because Layton's idea is an AWFUL one.

    Mr. Speaker, our government has delivered a broad-based reduction in taxation of ALL goods and services subject to the federal GST, by cutting the rate from 7, to 6, to 5%, just like we promised the Canadian people we would do. We will not start cherry-picking particular items that some microphone and TV-camera whore the NDP leader feels like whining about this week. Our government is justifiably proud of having lowered the rate across the board, and of our ongoing support of low-income Canadians through the GST rebate. That commitment to all Canadians will continue as long as we have their confidence to govern, Mr. Speaker.

    Can't anyone play this game?

    • Stewart_Smith

      or Baird might have said,

      Look Mr. Speaker, this government is already at its pandering limit. Tax relief if you do as we tell you and send your kid to camp: check. Tax relief if you do as we tell you and provide books for your kids: check (provided book is approved and got no sexy evolution stuff) and especially that tax subsidy for your smooth rides in the extra long vehicles: check. If we were to provide help for every sob story that showed up we would end up so far in debt that even we would have a tough time justifying blowing a few hundred mil on our new "skating with the $" program.

      I am guessing this next session is going to be tough on you myl.

      • madeyoulook

        Heh. And despite my script above, I personally disagreed with the GST cut.

        Please don't tell me this next session is going to be WORSE than the last one.

      • Orson Bean

        Things are wacko these days. The Tories are now Keynesian deficit spenders, while the NDP, both federally and provincially, now fancy themselves tax-cutters — even tax killers. In B.C., the NDP has crawled into bed with Bill Vander Zalm (of all people!) to lead the anti-HST jihad. What's more, during the last BC provincial election, the NDP came out squarely AGAINST the Liberal govt's carbon tax. Whatever happened to the green-friendly NDP? No wonder the Greens are able to poach votes from them.

        • Harvey Mushman

          Ideologies be damned. Parties will prostitute their values (and I use the term very loosely when referring to politicians) for votes every time.

          • Stewart_Smith

            Apparently, it is even legal to live off the avails of prostituting your values now.

          • tobyornotoby

            Don't they have to wait 30 days after the ruling to do that?

          • madeyoulook

            And what if the government appeals?

          • tobyornotoby

            They'll be driven back under ground …

          • RunningGag

            Wait… Are we talking about prostitutes, politicians, or groundhogs? I think I'm lost.

          • Holly Stick

            The government has started an appeal;, but it is never appealling.

          • RunningGag

            Monkey's with bananas now?

          • AJR79

            IMO, They will lose.

            I hope they appeal right up to the SCoC, so that the ruling will be binding across the country.

            It would be even nicer if parliament were to work on reforms of the prostituion laws, to make them more sensible, and mitigate any potential damage from this ruling.

            Sorry for using sensible, and parliament in the same sentence.

          • tobyornotoby

            I think if they win at appeal in Ontario that stands as a precedent nationally anyway. (unless overturned at SCoC)

  • Andy

    I don’t know about where you live but here where I live their is No tax at all on basic groceries. If they started taxing my every day bread and butter I would be leaving pretty damn soon.

    • Be_rad

      To go where, exactly? To save a few pennies on bread and butter you would exchange it for a place where you would spend comparative dollars on health care and self protection?

  • chet

    All the suffering in the world.

    Both large and small. Children who need "childcare" older folks who need home care.

    The answer of course is more government.

    Only through bigger government will our lives get better,

    only when we fully submit to the state to care for us from cradle to grave will we all be truly happy,

    Yes Iggy, please continue to show us your true left leaning colors.

    And while you do that, please also tell us how this or that massive government entitlement program will be free,

    brought to us by happy socialist unicorns.

    • Emily

      'Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?
      http://lancemannion.typepad.com/lance_mannion/200…

      • RunningGag

        Prisons? Yes. Workhouses? No, they took away all the farm animals, remember?

    • Trudeau lover

      American Igg's next campaign slogan… 40 Joints and a Unicorn!

    • burlivespipe

      Of course. In chet's world leave the big government behind the closed doors, where it needs to triple its advertising/propaganda buy, can wave off the typical benefit of fielding multiple offers on major ticket items, can raise taxes and pretend it didn't… Big government only for those who play big, right chet?

    • D.D.S

      Thank you………
      …thank you for reminding me why I am no longer a PC party member..
      …cold …calculating….and self-righteous

      • chet

        The bred from Russian Aristocracy, Ivory Tower perched, Canadian Come Lately's, sudden concern for this woman, which he just must, must use in a political attack,

        isn't cold or calculating, I suppose. Warm and truly inspired without a shred of political desire.

  • chet

    And you know who likely owns stock in those "big corporations"?

    All of us, via our mutual funds, pensions or direct ownership.

    Indeed this old woman's pension is probably invested in those eeeeevil corporations.

    And those interesting lifelike things that move about within those coporations, doing this or that….now what are they called again?

    Oh yes, now I remember the word for those: employees.

    Just as Europe's racing away from their failed nanny state, socialist policies, Iggy's embracing them.

    It's like Iggy was stuck in some academic echo chamber devoid of real world, concrete applications. Like in a Harvard Ivory tower for instance.

    • Emily

      In case you hadn't noticed, capitalism is also a failed system.

      [don't shout too loudly, the echo will kill your hearing]

      • hollinm

        Emily…..its not perfect but it is the best we have. The other alternatives will ruin all of us big time.

        • Emily

          Doesn't matter what it is….it's failing.

          All 3 systems were developed for the industrial age, but we aren't in the industrial age anymore.

          • hollinm

            Emily…..ok Emily you are the fountain of all wisdom and knowledge on this site. Tell us what system you would recommend where the middle class is not wiped out and we all start living in cavesand in the skins of animals like man did hundreds of years ago..
            Bleeding heart Liberals. All you do is complain but never have a substantive suggestion on how to make it better other than the government can do it better. There is ample evidence that the government is lousy at doing anything efficiently and effectively. Throw money at it. Thats their answer.

          • Emily

            You might be worth answering if you took the marbles out of your head.

            First you make a host of silly assumptions and assertions, and then you demand an answer.

            In fact you 'hear' things no one has said….you really should get that checked into.

          • burlivespipe

            How about a gov't that works within its fiscal abilities, that works to serve all canadians, not just those who groan about filling out a census form or can't be bothered to file a police report about those kids in their imaginary jello trees… You've bought the cheapest option where everything you were sold proved to be defective and not worth the paper it was promised. You wanted rigid spending control and got out-of-control government spending. You wanted accountability and now ministers aren't accountable for their goof-ups, and they hire goof-ups to take the blame of the ministers (who are actually the real goof-ups). Dante's inferno has a place for you.

          • Orson Bean

            You heard it here folks. All CPC supporters are going to hell to burn forever.

          • WictorWictor

            The greatest tragedy of all is that there isn't a Hell for them to go to.

  • http://nottawa.blogspot.com Mark

    What would it take to get one – just one – reporter who covers Jack Layton's nonsense to ask him a simple, three letter question every now and again. A simple question like – "How?"

    The federal government does not have the capacity to offer point of sale rebates, nor can it determine what portion of a person's hydro bill or gas bill is used for home heating. There is no such thing as a "home heat bill". And that's just for starters.

    If Jack's proposition is that we have a national heat source registry, a database of homeowners vs. renters, bill payers vs. tenants, and an itemized account of the nature of each of their heat sources used, the cost would be in the tens of millions just t get this idea off the ground.

    Why won't the Parliamentary Press Gallery smoke this idea out for what it truly is – stupid. Or better still, just ask Jack Layton to try and explain it. Is asking the NDP a tough question really that difficult a job?

    • hollinm

      Mark…..they will never do that. You know why? Because it will hurt the leftiest meme and of course help the Conservatives. They want nothing to do with anything that may help the Conservative government.

      • Emily

        No, everyone ignores the NDP because they know they'll never form govt.

        • Orson Bean

          Yeah, and look what happened in Ontario, circa 1990-91-92. Nobody paid much attention to NDP policy book, and next thing you know, in a fit of anti-Liberal anger, Ontario votes the NDP into power. Like waking up after that massive drunken debauch in Vegas and finding something very disturbing beside you in your bed.

          I did WHAT?

          • Emily

            LOL and no one would ever admit to voting NDP.

            But obviously somebody did….and the Dippers were more surprised than anyone.

            An attempt at strategic voting that went badly wrong.

            I doubt Ont will do THAT again anytime soon

    • Harvey Mushman

      Actually I don't doubt Jack would have a quick answer to such a simple question.

      To steal an old campaign slogan from Canada's Marxist-Leninist party…"Make the rich pay!"

      Unfortunately…what they don't tell you is that you and me are "the rich."

    • Stewart_Smith

      No doubt Jack's idea is a dumb one… however governments do this sort of populist crap all the time. We just wound down the "home depot" rebate. We still have rebates for sending kids to camp, books for kids and even bus transfers. At some level, you have to give Revenue Canada credit, every time a politician manages to push through a hare-brained tax "deform", they manage to implement it.

      At the same time, it would be very useful if every tax measure had a implementation cost associated with it. I would love to see all charities have to publish their admin costs… but so should government. As an example, I am a huge fan of the HST. Why? Not because I enjoy paying more, but rather once some one-time costs are out of the way, the HST can be collected for millions less than the GST & PST.

      • tobyornotoby

        "I would love to see all charities have to publish their admin costs"

        Registered charities admin and other costs are reported quarterly to CRA and posted in a handy online data base: http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/chrts-gvng/lstngs/menu-e…

        Your wish is my command.

  • ColdStanding

    There once was a woman from Monteal
    About whom the Commons did brawl
    The taxes arn't fair
    And the cupboard is bare
    She just wishes John Baird would call.

    • cbombast

      Big thumbs-up for the limerick. Something tells me "the woman from Montreal" won't be the first member of the fairer sex who sat around hopelessly waiting for Mr. Baird to call.

      • ColdStanding

        Cheers.

    • Kathryn_C

      Pretty impressive.

      Can you also Haiku?

      • ColdStanding

        On royal mount
        Tears, the heartlessness
        Baird no care.

  • bettie

    I'm not sure if this is up-to-date or not, but over 10 years ago in Manitoba my parents-in-law received quite good homecare which enabled them to stay in their home until they died both at 94 years old. It was in small-town Manitoba.

    Lately, here in Sask. I've been dealing with my 92 year-old step-mother and her care needs, and the system isn't as 'client' friendly.

    So, is this a provincial thing? If so, this lady in Montreal could perhaps be helped by the provincial gov't.

    • Poker Face

      The federal Liberals have never seen a provincial jursidiction they didn't like.

      • Richard_S_Argent

        Federal Spending Power has been a bipartisan effort my friend.. If you long for the days of water-tight D of P, then I suggest you get a time machine and lobby to keep the JCPC :)

  • hollinm

    Ok Ignatieff we hear you. Now tell us how much home care will cost and how will you pay for it. Oh know, the cat got your tongue. Thought so.

    • Emily

      Scrap the fighterplanes.

      • hollinm

        Emily…..sure we can do that and ground the air force in 2014 or keep sending them up in F18's and watch them crash out of the sky and kill our airforce personnel. On the other hand that's what the anti war crowd would like. Disband the military. Think of the billions that would be saved.

        • Emily

          Or we could just scrap the fighterplanes….they were useless and antiquated the minute ICBMs came into being.

          As to disbanding the military….you may have something there.

          • Orson Bean

            So ICBMs made fighter aircraft useless and antiquated?

            I didn't realize that NATO kicked Serbian butt using ICBMs. I thought it was mostly with, umm, fighter aircraft.
            Same with the coalition in Afghanistan — I don't remember ICBMs being deployed there. Do you?

          • Emily

            Yes, they did.

            If Russia was going to attack us, they'd just launch missiles.

            Of course fighterplanes have been used elsewhere….they're grand at shooting up wedding parties.

            Are we planning to invade another country and do that?

          • chet

            I see Emily objects to murderous Al Quaida thugs who train every day to kill our children before our eyes, and to see the West enslaved in a barbarous society where gays are stoned and "impure women" hung,

            being taken out by a lazer guided bomb from an F 22.

            And you just know Emily would object to "boots on the ground" going after them, "occupying" them and all that.

            Best to let those Al Queda "peace activists" be, eh Emily?

          • Emily

            They have drugs to treat raving paranoia and hallucinations now chet. Ask your doctor.

          • Richard_S_Argent

            *al qaeda

            *laser

          • Holly Stick

            Just imagine, a few hundred al qaeda members have the magical ability to destroy all civilization on earth! Shows what you can achieve if you really try.

          • craigola

            Shows what you can believe if you really try.

    • brooster

      "Now tell us how much home care will cost and how will you pay for it."

      Home care for seniors is less expensive than the per diems in institutional care, especially hospitals. It also fosters dignity, independence, continued involvement in one's community, and better adjustment in later life. It could be financed by shifting resources now spent on hospitalizing the elderly from expensive bricks-and-mortar institutions to community-based alternatives.

      Given the approaching old age of the large cohort of "baby boomers", it's a model we need to consider very soon as a less costly option to dumping seniors into institutional care. Who knows, even you might be the beneficiary some day, hollinm.

      Unfortunately in the context of this particular debate, health care is a provincial responsibility.

      • tobyornotoby

        They haven't invented the province yet that will turn down federal contributions based on reasonable agreements for service. Quebec And Alberta fulminate about provincial jurisdiction and then take the money.

        • brooster

          Agreed, but it will take some government other than Harper's to get into cost-sharing home-care. This kind of social program runs completely counter to his vision of the country and the role of the federal government.

      • hollinm

        Right….healthcare is a provincial responsibility and so is homecare. Unless you have something that shows the feds are responsible for homecare I will completely discount that comment and consider it as talking points.

        I don't argue that the points you raise are ideally what we would strive for. However, if over the last 40 years they can't get healthcare right why on earth would we think they could fund a national homecare strategy without bankrupting the middle class.

        I am all ears about a homecare strategy. Lets hear from the provinces and how they will participate. Lets hear from the Libs and how they will fund it. This thing about eliminating the corporate tax reductions is plain stupid. Anybody who knows economics knows that you do not save the equalivalent close to the $6 billion. Lets if we are going to do it get all the stakeholders involved including the two levels of government and of course the bean counters. An honest discussion would be good but we will not get that in Canada these days.

        • brooster

          In the long run, it will be less expensive to support the elderly in their own homes for as long as feasible than to continue to ignore the demographic pattern we both agree on. The conventional strategy now seems to lead, inevitably, to putting elderly people on waiting lists for admission to expensive warehouses for the aged.

          As we both concur, this is primarily a provincial responsibility but it needs federal leadership if we want national standards. Cost-sharing has worked in the past. In the final analysis, as the old adage goes, there's only one taxpayer.

    • WictorWictor

      How to pay for it is easy. Crack down on tax shelters and milk the super-rich, seven figure earners who pay a lower percentage of their income than those making $40,000

      • hollinm

        Do you honestly believe that a national homecare strategy will only cost $1 billion?. Look at the demographics of the country. We are getting older and older. If we think we are having trouble funding healthcare wait until you add a multi billion homecare strategy as well. It sounds good but we need to go in with our eyes open to what the real costs will be over the next 10 years. With a glib elimination of the corporate tax reduction your falling into the old Liberal trap. Need I remind you of the so called net $2 million gun registry boondoggle that cost us $2 billion and counting. Any homecare strategy will require a buy in from the provinces.

        • WictorWictor

          Obviously the system would have to be extensively modelled and costs analyzed before deciding whether or not to embark on such an effort. The reason the rifle registry ended up costing so much up-front is because the requirements for the database system kept changing. Incompetent management and a total lack of tech savvy resulted in a series of false starts and extremely costly redesigns. This could just as easily have happened under a Conservative or NDP government. If the people in charge of implementing the registry had listened to the advice of computer scientists and database experts, the initial costs would have been much lower.

          Right now the priority should be to reverse the accumulation of wealth at the very top of the income pyramid. Hundreds of billions of dollars are locked up in the private bank accounts of a handful of extremely wealthy individuals. There is no legitimate justification for this. Once that cash can be unlocked and pumped back into the system we'll be able to say, okay here's how much money we have, and these are the problems we want to solve, now let's find out how best to go about solving those problems.

          I think seniors care really does need to be improved and to just callously dismiss it as a bad idea that won't be properly implemented or costed out is really short-sighted and defeatist.

  • Consistent

    After meeting this unfortunate “woman in Montreal”, I hope that rich Ignatieff gave her something for her hard-luck story that he is now using for crass partisan political purposes. How much money did he and the Liberal party give to her, out of compassion?!

    • Emily

      What makes you think he's rich?

      He's always worked for a living, same as most people

    • Trudeau lover

      Yeah! Everyone goes to Upper Canada College and has aristocratic ancestors from Russia… Duh. American Igg's campaign slogan… "Free weed and a Unicorn"!

      • D.D.S

        you are NOT helping "your side"………….you know that…..right?

      • Emily

        Many of our leaders have gone to Upper Canada college actually, and no one, including you, can help who your ancestors are.

        However he isn't rich. And he opposes legalizing pot.

        What is this, Dipper class resentment? Try sticking to facts, and don't make things up.

  • Jeet

    Absolutely no one seems to be concerned with cost reduction in any level of government. Couple that with the huge incomes. benefits and pensions accorded literally every government worker (as compared to their private sector countereparts who pay ALL the salaries) there is no alternative other than to keep bleeding the private sector for more and more. The race to the bottom will not stop until that attitude is reversed. The private sector contributor should be treated like kings.

    • Emily

      Well I'm sure you'd like that until you tried to get a pension, baby bonus, rebate payment, and found there were too few people to comply with your request.

    • D.D.S

      perhaps they could scrap the prisons for "unreported crimes"…………

  • chet

    See Mark's question above.

    The press goes ballistic about daring to reduce a gargantuan FORTY page census in lenght,

    but gives radical hairbrained ideas by the opposition that would bankrupt the country a total pass.

    This is why, when an election is called and voters actually are forced to contemplate the other team's ideas and direction,

    Harper will again raise his seat totals like the last three elections. Again, to a shocked and dismayed media who couldn't see the forst through the partisan (did he eat a wafer or didn't he) trees

    • WictorWictor

      Barring some miracle, Harper will lose seats in the next election. Deal with it.

      • hollinm

        He will still hold the government. Sorry for your luck.

      • chet

        Yep, just like they said the last three elections.

    • Mark

      Layton's idea wouldn't bankrupt the country. Layton's idea is simply not possible to execute.

      I just wish the media would hold Jack Layton, who pretends (for the fourth, or fifth time…) to be running for Prime Minister of this country, to at least some small portion of the standard they hold Ignatieff.

      Ignatieff announced a policy on home care today, and immediately the media scrutinized it – where would the money come from? What would criteria be? How would it be administered? etc.

      You can argue among yourselves whether Ignatieff answers those questions to your satisfaction, or you can argue whether or not you agree with the policy and its implications. But you will never, ever see any NDP announcement subjected to even a minimally comparable level of analysis or scrutiny. Such is the reality of Jack Layton's beholden Press Gallery.

      The sooner we can dismiss the NDP for the bunch of windbags they are, the sooner we can have real debates about real issues in this country.

  • Trudeau lover

    The "media" will continue to co-ordinate their fear and smear campaign with the Liberal/Separatist party. You Cons haven't seen anything yet, wait till the next election. We "pooping puffins" in the Liberal/Separatist party are going to be throwing our feces everywhere. What did PM Harper do with that wafer? That is serious stuff.

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