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The Commons: Stephen Harper lets it all out

by Aaron Wherry on Wednesday, October 27, 2010 6:44pm - 0 Comments

The Scene. The Prime Minister is a busy man and so he cannot always attend to the House. His appearance today, for instance, was his first in a week. And this, it seemed, was long overdue—not so much for us, this place and our democracy, but for him. Indeed, judging from his subsequent behavior he arrived quite pent up, needing very much, from a spiritual perspective, to openly air his concerns and grievances.

This is perhaps the best way to understand the man’s outbursts—as a natural and necessary unburdening, a shouty rebalancing of his chakras. So let us think of this as somehow healthy. If only so that we might say these proceedings serve some purpose.

It was Michael Ignatieff who first stepped forward this afternoon, rather selflessly it must be said, and invited the Prime Minister to let it all out.

“First it was the Chinooks, now it is F-35s. The Auditor General is telling Canadians that the procurement policy of the government is an incompetent mess,” the Liberal leader prodded. “Will the Prime Minister listen to the Auditor General, cancel the contract and open up a free, competitive and transparent bid to replace Canada’s CF-18s?”

This was more than enough to start Mr. Harper’s process of enumerating his frustrations. First up, the Liberal government of 1993.

“The reason there are problems with the helicopters is because 17 years ago the Liberal government cancelled the helicopter contract,” he cried, “paid $1 billion to get no helicopters at all and subsequent governments have had to deal with that decision.”

There is, you should understand, no statute of limitations on the Prime Minister’s grievances, at least so far as they apply to Liberal administrations. Give him enough time and he’ll explain how his government’s current budgetary deficit is a direct result of Alexander Mackenzie‘s inability to prepare for the recession of the 1870s.

Having thus explained the Defence Department’s recent inability to properly account for itself on the 17-year-old decision of a prime minister who has been out of office for nearly seven years, Mr. Harper moved on to his fears for the future.

“We will not make the same mistake when it comes to replacing the CF-18s,” he declared. “We are going to buy the best equipment for the Canadian Forces and we already have work going to the aviation sector across the country that the coalition will put in jeopardy, that this government will not.”

He wagged his finger here across the aisle at the theoretical—some might say, imaginary—monster that lurked there.

Obviously not satisfied that the Prime Minister had fully exhausted his anger in this regard, Mr. Ignatieff pushed him to go further.

“Mr. Speaker, there is a pattern in the government of refusing to take responsibility,” the Liberal leader ventured. “Conservatives lose the Security Council vote; they blame someone else. They mess up the helicopter deal; they blame the previous government. When is the government going to take responsibility for its own actions?”

Back up came the Prime Minister, now swiping his right hand variously and jabbing the air with his index finger and generally putting anyone within his immediate vicinity in danger of having their hair ruffled.

“Let me tell everyone about the responsibilities we have here,” he said, a sure sign that what followed would be very informative and enlightening. “We have a responsibility to replace fighter aircraft and not play politics with the lives of our men and women in uniform. We have a responsibility when it is national aeronautics industry day here to make sure we protect the people, the men and women who work in that industry, against the irresponsible behaviour of the Leader of the Opposition and his coalition and that is what we are going to do.”

By the time he was done he was more or less yelling. The Conservatives around him—obviously choosing to set aside the internal contradiction of his words—leapt up to applaud their leader’s willingness to so enthusiastically share.

After a short interruption to allow the Bloc Quebecois and John Baird to debate whose side was most unsavoury—from the gallery it seemed a tie—Jack Layton rose to sacrifice himself for the sake of the Prime Minister’s unburdening.

“Mr. Speaker, the Prime Minister cannot accept the Auditor General’s recommendations on the one hand and then simply refuse to implement them. That does not make sense,” the NDP leader offered, daring to introduce logic to the proceedings. “The Auditor General warned that the systemic mismanagement that she observed is going to mean cuts in the support and operational support for our Armed Forces. This is a serious matter.”

Indeed this did seem quite serious, which is to say it seemed like a very direct provocation of what the Prime Minister claims to be his core justification for existing. Mr. Harper responded in kind.

“The leader of the NDP should not pretend for a moment that he is raising these concerns on behalf of the military,” he shot back. “The military has been absolutely clear about the need here.”

But if not a genuine expression of concern related to the preparedness of the nation’s military, then what was this? What was this mustachioed bald man up to?

“In fact,” the Prime Minister explained, “this is simply coalition politics playing games with military contracts against what the entire aerospace industry and the entire defence establishment of this country realizes is necessary and the government is going to proceed.”

Ah-ha—the inspector-in-chief had properly sussed out the conspiracy. And not a moment too soon: the deadline for this jet purchasing being a mere two years away.

Unmasked and properly busted, Mr. Layton tried desperately to change the subject, daring now to suggest that the government side did not fully and properly respect the nation’s veterans. Here, apparently, the NDP leader sought to pour a few litres of napalm on the smoldering tire fire. And so here Mr. Harper’s closed fist made an appearance, bobbing assuredly in front of him as the Prime Minister, barely bothering to breathe, turned a nice shade of maroon.

“When it comes to standing up for the men and women in uniform those who are in uniform today, getting them the equipment they need, those people understand there is only one party in this Parliament that supports helping those people,” he proclaimed. “It is this government. When it comes to improving benefits to our veterans there is only one party that has not voted against those things like the NDP. It is this party and we will continue to protect our men and women in uniform today and in the future.”

With this disappointment in all others stated for the record, he returned to his seat. And with his partisan demons thus exorcised, he calmly turned to some paperwork he’d brought with him.

The Stats. The military, nine questions. Ethics, five questions. Crime, the Bank of Canada and government spending, four questions each. The G20, infrastructure, disability benefits, the environment and immigration, two questions each. Newfoundland and the RCMP, one question each.

Stephen Harper and Jim Flaherty, seven answers each. Vic Toews, five answers. John Baird, Peter MacKay and Mark Warawa, three answers each. Rob Nicholson, Chuck Strahl, Tony Clement and Jason Kenney, two answers each. Rob Merrifield and Stockwell Day, one answer each.

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  • Emily

    Either Harper is on something, or he's off something, I'm not sure which….but it's getting worse.

    • http://secondthots.blogspot.com Dennis_F

      Amazing what passes as commentary on these pages.

  • wilson

    And The Stupid People's Party has an 11 point lead on the elites:

    In the online survey of a representative national sample of 1,016 Canadian adults, 37 per cent of respondents (+3 since September) would support the governing Conservative Party in the next federal election.

    The Liberal Party is second with 26 per cent (=), followed by the New Democratic Party (NDP) with 19 per cent (+1), the Bloc Québécois with 10 per cent (=), and the Green Party with six per cent (-5).
    http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/43427/conservativ…

    • Emily

      Gosh, the same outfit that only last week said that trust in Harper was falling sharply
      http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/43423/canadians-s…

      Angus-Reid is not a poll….it's an online survey you register for….they even pay you.

      • hosertohoosier

        Angus-Reid is a legitimate pollster. They (like many other pollsters) use an online panel in order to conduct polls. Through weighting, etc. they can minimize the risk of bias. This method is imperfect, but there is no such thing as a perfect methodology. Also they were actually the most accurate pollster in 2008 (although their UK predictions were way off).
        http://www.visioncritical.com/wp-content/uploads/…

        • Emily

          So go register….they'll even pay you.

          Just don't call them legit.

          • hosertohoosier

            Every polling methodology used by pollsters has serious problems. You can use telephones, but there are plenty of biases. Some people are more likely than others to answer phones at certain times of day, etc. It is hard to account for cell-phones.

          • hosertohoosier

            What you are criticizing of A-R is that they use a panel. Lots of people (for instance, Ekos) use panels:

            "Probit is randomly recruited from the general population and supports a full coverage method, meaning it is a hybrid internet-telephone sample. By accounting for households that do not use the internet with the telephone portion of Probit, EKOS makes sure no element of the Canadian population is missed. The only way to be included in Probit is through random selection."

          • Emily

            Yeah yeah…and Angus-Reid is nonsense.

        • Jan

          Hahahaha, Cons talking about weighting. Where were you doing the Census debate? If you have a minute could you send Tony Clement a note explaining it to him – he only believes things said by Cons it seems.

          • hosertohoosier

            Actually I did send an email to Tony Clement's office complaining about the census decision.

      • http://secondthots.blogspot.com Dennis_F

        Nola, you've been using this false line for how many years now? Don't they give you new material, for crying out loud?

        • Emily

          You still selling yourself on My Space?

          • http://secondthots.blogspot.com Dennis_F

            Never have, but glad to see you moved from one unsubstantiated accusation to another. It's your M.O.

          • Emily

            Hi, my name is Dennis, wanna get to know me? Then get to know me.

            Phone number added

    • http://scottdiatribe.canflag.com/ Scott_Tribe

      Right.. and did you miss the Harris Decima poll a few days ago that had it 34-32? From an actual telephone poll?

      • Emily

        Yup….far more likely….but then they're legit.

        • hosertohoosier

          Their prediction of the Conservative share of the vote in 2008 was off by 4 points (well outside their margin of error).

          • Emily

            All legit polls are showing pretty much the same thing, and have for 5 years.

          • Mike

            Some might say that an election is the most legit of all polls. The most recent of them was far closer to the Angus results than the 34-32 number that you claim has been status quo for the past five years.

          • hosertohoosier

            Uh no no they haven't. I assume you believe Harris-Decima is a legitimate pollster, from what you said earlier. If you look at polling data since 2007 their estimate of Tory support has ranged from 29% to 41%. Those are very different levels of support, no?

          • Emily

            I only go by legit pollsters…..and while both parties have been up and down by a few points over the last 5 years….it still comes out to the same thing.

            You can't compare an Ekos to a Decima ….only to their own past numbers.

            And you can't go by weekly ones because as I said they go up and down

            All you can do is look at the long term trend of all of them….and by doing that you realize that neither party, for all their blips…is getting anywhere.

            And until one party moves ahead….and stays ahead….for weeks….enough to get a majority….there is no point having an election. We'll just spend millions to have exactly what we have now….a minority govt.

            Could be a Con minority, could be a Lib minority…..but it'll be a minority.

            Don't worry….when the right issue comes along that gets people excited/upset….you'll know it. The polls will change dramatically, and stay that way.

      • Thwim

        Haven't folks clued in yet? Calgary's recent mayoralty run should be a big hint.

        Polls are rapidly becoming useless. In an age where there are an increasing number of people without landlines, we are, in essence, already starting to see what the results of a self-selected census will look like. Calgary's polls had Naheed Nenshi and Barbara Higgins neck and neck behind Rob McIver. Nenshi not only won, but did so with a significant lead.

        Online polls? Not only self-selected, but selection restricted to those who have the tech.

        Anybody who assumes these days that a poll measures anything beyond those actually contacted is doing so on increasingly shaky ground.

        • Emily

          Well that's true….can't reach people on cellphones, and I think they're in the majority now.

          It's mostly older people that still have landlines.

          • hollinm

            Emily…….I agree it is probably older people who still have landlines. However, lets not forget they are the ones that actually vote.

            We can argue about which polling company is more accurate but the fact remains it is really only the trend that matters. This analysis of each poll and what it means is becoming more irrelevant as time goes by.

          • D.D.S

            The young voted in Calgary….en masse in some cases

    • lenny

      I thought the NDP, Bloc and Greens were part of the elite? Wouldn't that make it a 23 point lead for the Coalition of the Elite?

      • Emily

        Well, that's the one time Cons don't mention a 'coalition'.

    • Jenn_

      Can we have the lawn signs changed to Stupid People's Party or The Elites? It would be ever so much more fun.

      • hosertohoosier

        But what about the old-fashioned elitists that stuck to the Conservative party on the tax issue (cavernous mansions, high-backed chairs and brandy aren't free… and yes everything I know in life comes from the Simpsons).

  • Chris

    It's politics as normal in Ottawa. Im sure when the Liberals went ahead and purchased the choppers years ago, the Conservatives back then were crying foul. And why is Layton still in charge of the NDP when every election he gets the door slammed in his face by the Canadian public? I understand the mess the Liberals are in and for the sake of the country, regardless if you're a Conservative, Liberal or NDP, we need healthy political parties as no one party alone should dominate and dictate policy and the public unchallenged. The only challenge both the Liberals and NDP pose right now to the Conservatives is an illusion as the Liberals are strapped for cash and can't afford an election, while the NDP just won't go anywhere with Layton running things. And don't get me started on the Bloc…

  • Jackson

    Great day for Harper. . just pointing out the Liberal Defense Policy "Yesterday's Obsolete Equipment, Good Enough For our Troops Tomorrow"

    • Emily

      Fighterplanes are obsolete, period.

    • Jan

      And the Conservative Defense Policy – "We don't know what it's going cost, just trust us"

  • Patchouli

    Maroon, eh? Fitting.

  • motor

    “The reason there are problems with the helicopters is because 17 years ago the Liberal government cancelled the helicopter contract,” he ( harper) cried,
    ————————-
    Didn't harper vote in favor of the cancellation of said helicopters in 1993?

    Hypocrite

    • http://secondthots.blogspot.com Dennis_F

      Didn't harper vote in favor of the cancellation of said helicopters in 1993?

      I don't know. You tell us.

      • motor

        well thank you for the invitation Dennis, I think I'll do just as you ask

        harper voted to cancel the helicopter purchase in 1993 which he admits was a mistake and is now saying is the reason we need to spend a gazillion dollars of cost overruns on helicopters and new shiny planes without a plan for the military future (Defence Minister peter mackay told Lt.-Gen. Leslie to figure out the military’s future)

    • Reverend_Blair

      Yeah he did. The Liberals tried to table a document about Harper's previous position into the record after QP, but the Conservatives refused to give them unanimous consent.

  • http://secondthots.blogspot.com Dennis_F

    Let me get this straight. Some of you don't like question period, so throw eggs at Harper yourselves?

    • Emily

      Harper is no longer sane.

    • gottabesaid

      I wasn't offering a defense, just an observation. I'm no Harper fan, and I've criticized him plenty… but I do make an honest effort at being reasonable, even if folks don't agree with me. I haven't see a lot of reasonable comments in QP, and when the story itself is about QP, you just see the gov't and opp. talking points parroted on the board.

      • Orson Bean

        Exactly. That's when these boards go lame — when partisans on both sides just barf out stale talking points.

        • Emily

          Well you're a partisan for both parties, so you can do double duty and save others the time.

          • Orson Bean

            "you're a partisan for both parties"

            I think that's logically impossible, if you think about it.

            Unless you're suffering from multiple personality disorder.

          • Emily

            Exactly.

      • http://secondthots.blogspot.com Dennis_F

        An odd place to offer such an observation, in my opinion.

        • gottabesaid

          I've noticed that the best comments, from any viewpoint, are on stories about bigger issues — census, Kadr, etc… And I'm talking from the left and the right… better posts from both sides. But when the story is about QP — which is partisanship at its worst — the comments are usually partisan… often ridiculously so.

  • Orson Bean

    Please don't trouble Emily with facts and analysis.

    • Emily

      Fighterplanes are obsolete, period.

      Even for mugwumps like Mr Bean.

      • hosertohoosier

        Why are they obsolete, exactly? If your contention is that drone warfare is the future, then surely you will applaud the choice of the F-35. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/arti…

        • Emily

          Fighterplanes have been obsolete since ICBMs came along.

          Russia or China won't 'fly' in fergawdsake….and Iraq and Afghanistan can't fly at all.

          Only thing fighterplanes are good for is shooting up wedding parties.

    • Emily

      No, she wipes the floor with you.

  • Trudeau lover

    Yeah!! How dare Harper defend his Governments position on re-building the Canadian military! Talking about how the Liberal/Separatist party created this problem 15 years ago is not relevant. American Iggo was living in the U.S.A 15 years ago, so he can't be blamed for the dirty politicking, of Jean Chretin. Sure the Liberal/Separatist party are to blame for gutting the military, cancelling the contract to purchase the E-H-1 helicopters, and selling off our Chinooks to the Dutch, but that was along time ago, and Iggo hadn't been inserted into the leadership of the coalition yet. I hate when Harper defends are men and women in uniform and tries to rebuild our neglected air fleet, that was dismantled by the Liberal/Separatist party. Where does Harper get off pinning the blame on the Liberal/Separatist party for gutting the military and playing politics with the lives of our men and women in uniform. Harper might have the facts on his side, but why can't he just ignore reality like the Liberal/Separatists, and their media whores do. Okay Mr.Harper, go ahead and rebuild our gutted military, and defend your position on doing so, but don't think that's going to stop us Liberal/Separatists from sliming around in our nefarious, dishonest narrative. I hate everyone who doesn't think like a "Liberal", or a Separatist. I want more "Hope and Change" and junk. I'll take an empty rhetorical slogan and dishonest, negative spin doctoring narratives over facts and principles any day. Harper + rebuilding the military= Bad. American Iggo + Separatists= Good.

    • brooster2

      Giorno? You still around?

    • Dan

      Whats with the Liberal/Separtist BS.

      It was the Conservative Party under Mulroney that invited the Separatists into our Parliament. Haven't they taught you that in Junior High yet?

      The F35 is the wrong plane for the wrong job at a seriously wrong price.

    • Jan

      Nice use of the talking points,T l.

    • hollinm

      Wasn't that an intelligent remark? Typical.

  • Martin

    Are you nuts?! The conservatives and their leader – Steve Zero – are a bunch of crooks who do not know how to manage or run a budget or a government. When you have a sensible comment, I'll give you the mic. Remember to ensure that it is well thought out. In other words, think about the nonsense you say before saying it.

  • Orson Bean

    Trudeau lover's post is a tad over-the-top, but it's nevertheless true that this whole helicopter fiasco we find ourselves in now has its origins in the Chretien government's decision to cancel the EH-101. Had that not happened, we would not be at this juncture.

    I'm not a huge National Post fan, but some of the articles in today's edition lay the history out very well.

    That's not to excuse what the DND people did (according to Shiela Fraser's latest report) in the present instance, which appears to be absolutely wrong.

    • Dan

      True, but everyone loves to take things out of context…in this case historical.

      Canada was broke at the time. Mulroney had just added $378 billion to our national debt. With the high interest rates back then our debt servicing costs were killing us. We simply could not afford the choppers at the time.

      I ask anyone who is in favor of spending $20-40 billion on military toys. Where does the money come from? Are you willing to pay a heck of a lot more taxes? Do you want health care scrapped? Do we let our infrastructure totally collapse?

      The Harper Conservatives are proposing to put all these purchases on our national VISA card. That is unacceptable and completely irresponsible. But hey, we have seen this story before…not that long ago…and it resulted in the destruction of the Progressive Conservative Party of Canada.

      So once again I will ask…where does the money come from? … and spare me the partisan claptrap.

      • Orson Bean

        Well, in replying to your question, you have to keep the EH-101 situation and the current fighter plane situations distinct. Some facts and issues are the same or similar, some aren't.

        In the case of the EH-101, the point is that the Chretien government's decision to cancel was a classic example of penny wise, pound foolish. Extremely foolish. Procurement experts and analysts who have since looked at the decision are virtually unanimous in concluding that their decision to cancel cost Canadian taxpayers way, way more than had they just stuck with the initial purchase decision, owing to the contractual penalties, the lawsuits and the time value of money, as we merely put off a helicopter purchasing decision which ultimately had to be made anyway. The main reason Chretien cancelled was political anyway, it had virtually nothing to do with real fiscal prudence — as history has clearly shown.

        I'm still on the fence about the fighter plane purchase. I haven't been convinced by the partisan arguments on either side, and that's because (with good reason) I don't trust political partisans as far as I can throw them.

    • lenny

      "this whole helicopter fiasco we find ourselves in now has its origins in the Chretien government's decision to cancel the EH-101. "

      Likewise, the origins of the West Block scandal are in the failure of the Liberals to renovate West Block while they were in office.

      • Emily

        The Indonesian volcano is likewise a Liberal failure for not sealing it off when they had the chance.

        • hollinm

          Why not. You guys blame everything that happens on Harper.

          • D.D.S

            S.Harper is the Prime Minister of Canada….when would it be appropriate to start blaming him?

    • Jenn_

      But you seem to be defending an action (the poor contract awarding) by bringing up a related, but not terribly relevant historical fact. In other words, yes, we needed helicoptors. That is not in dispute, I think. The same as I don't think there is really any question about our need for aircraft now-ish. But are we really only going to put contracts out to tender when we DON'T need the thing? Is that where we're heading?

  • http://secondthots.blogspot.com Dennis_F

    For the record, and despite what some of the usual suspects are agitating about on here, Angus Reid was the most accurate major poll before the last federal election. The guy is a polling institution in this country. But, when all you've got is attacking a pollster for a result you don't like, then you know you ain't got much, right?

    • Emily

      And Nanos has been accurate far more times….but that's kind of irrelevant isn't it when you're agitating for this weeks 'survey' without admitting last weeks 'survey' said the exact opposite.

      And considering Cons attack every pollster in the country as a 'Liberal' if they don't like a poll….

      • http://secondthots.blogspot.com Dennis_F

        You're more than welcome to point out where exactly I was making any comments on the merits of specific polls released this week or last. Thanks.

        • Emily

          Gawd, now you can't remember your own posts from 5 minutes ago?

          Got some bad stuff last phonecall eh?

          You're welcome

          • http://secondthots.blogspot.com Dennis_F

            Of course I remember, which is why I specifically asked you to cite any part of what I've posted. Of course, you can't. That's what you do on here. That's what you've been doing on political boards for years now. What an agenda.

          • Emily

            If you can't remember what you said….it's posted just 6 items up.

            Don't play innocent with me, you My Space devil you! LOL

          • Jan

            Clarence Darrow – what the hell?

          • http://secondthots.blogspot.com Dennis_F

            Amazing what gets allowed on here. At the same time, Wherry complains about the Commons. What a joke.

          • Emily

            Yes, because a post on a blog site is vastly more important than the boardroom of the nation, right?

            Many of you are just lucky that Wherry is easy going enough not to take offense at all the insults you toss at him.

            This IS his place of work after all.

          • http://secondthots.blogspot.com Dennis_F

            Nola, all you do is throw insults at people who dare disagree with your Liberal agenda.

            And if you and Wherry are so terrified of criticism and free speech, cancel the comments section. Act like Fidel Castro. By all means.

  • Jan

    That was during his fiscal conservative years.

  • Reverend_Blair

    The really interesting thing about QP today was the points of order after.

    Turns out that the Reform Party was very much against the Mulroney helicopters and would have cancelled the deal too, if they had the chance. Harper was their senior policy guy at the time.

  • http://www.futurefocus.info Terry Wiens

    How many times can Harper work the word coalition into a sentence? It is unfortunate that there is truth to the adage "say it enough and it becomes true" as is shown by the Harperites. Clements had a little bit more class by rewording it to say "Ignatieff and his allies".

    I weep for those minds in our country (it still was OUR country the last time I checked) that are still buying into coalition crap. And Stevie, please, issues from 1993. Get over it and maybe keep from repeating it. Afterall those who don't learn from their past are doomed to repeat it. Just a polite way of saying idiocy is continuing to make the same mistakes over and over. Quit being an idiot!

    • Thwim

      I do wonder if it might do the opposition good to use this same tactic, and start labelling the Conservative government as the "uncooperative" or "loner" Conservative party.. or alternatively.. as the Separatists.

  • IanBC

    How about the Super Hornet? Arguably more versatile than the F-35, cheaper and importantly it's flying today in many countries. Boeing even might consider a buy-back on our current airframes (Wikipedia suggests they offered this to Malaysia). Granted, it loses some stealth against the F-35.

    You have good points – I'm just suggesting that other airframes fit into #2.

    • Emily

      Well we can play around with different models, sure….but we really don't need fighterplanes.

      We could sure use some search and rescue planes though….and some big cargo planes. Ships are too slow to move supplies.

  • Gabby in QC

    "The Prime Minister is a busy man and so he cannot always attend to the House. His appearance today, for instance, was his first in a week. And this, it seemed, was long overdue—not so much for us, this place and our democracy, but for him."

    What idiotic tripe. It might have been a bit more honest to say WHY today marked the PM's first appearance in the House. He held bilateral talks with Swiss President Leuthard last Thursday & Friday, attended the Francophonie conference on the weekend, and ended with a visit to Ukraine on Monday & Tuesday. He returned to the House on Wednesday.

    Poor Wherry! He must be exhausted from having to pound that keyboard to produce such drivel.

    • Emily

      Actually Wherry said Harper is a busy man…..and he said his appearance was overdue for Harper's taste because he had some things he wanted to get off his chest.

      • chet

        That "is a busy man" comment was dripping with sarcasm. The whole "oh he's too busy for us" chiding would have been lost had Wherry actually told the true state of affairs. And so he withheld the true state of affairs.

  • chet

    Further to Gabby's post above,

    when Iggy dissappears to his chateaux in France for weeks on end, it is of no moment to Wherry,

    But when Harper is abscent doing real work for Canada, holding bi lateral talks to better our economy,

    Wherry chides him on his absence, while willfully omitting these important facts, and content to leave the reader with the impression he was out golfing or something.

    It's beyond spin here. We've entered pure propoganda territory.

    How sad for a blog that is owned by a media insititution which purports to inform.

    • D.D.S

      "Iggy" is NOT the Prime Minister of Canada., "Iggy" is NOT responsible for Harper's decisions, "Iggy" ,it seems, is the scariest man alive according to Harper and crew. When exactly did "Iggy" become so all powerful?

  • chet

    And what of these bilateral talks?

    Did they lead to fruition?

    What industries or sectors stand to gain from such increased cross border openness?

    I suspect the opposition didn't ask. Nor do the partisan bloggers and commenters here care a whiff. It is solely and completely about the "gotcha" moment, and ginning up any issue they think they can spin to get themselves back into power.

    But I can assure you, the non partisans care out there.

    The image of Harper doing the solid work for Canadians, while the partisan opposition engages in petty sniping was perfectly personified by this latest episode.

    • hollinm

      Chet….don't forget there was hardly a mention of the positive report card by the AG on the stimulus spending.

    • BCer in Mtl

      You forgot to say "Welcome to today's progressive left"

      We have a drinking game going on here, you know.

    • Gabby in QC

      http://pm.gc.ca/eng/media.asp?id=3727
      "New agreements between Canada and Switzerland
      22 October 2010
      Bern, Switzerland
      Air Transportation Agreement
      … The agreement now contains expanded operating rights for airlines from Canada and Switzerland to operate air transportation between each other’s territory and third countries …

      Protocol Amending the Canada-Switzerland Double Taxation Convention
      … New Protocol provisions related to the elimination of double taxation …
      … the exchange of tax information … in order to enable Canadian tax authorities to obtain information relevant for the enforcement and administration of Canadian taxation laws and to assist them in preventing international tax evasion. …"
      http://pm.gc.ca/eng/media.asp?category=1&id=3…
      "Prime Minister Stephen Harper announced today that Canada and Ukraine have signed a new agreement that will give young people more opportunity to travel and work in each other’s countries. …

      The Memorandum of Understanding, which is expected to come into effect next year, will simplify and facilitate the process for qualified Canadian and Ukrainian citizens, aged 18 to 35, to travel and work in the other country for up to one year. Participants will gain a better understanding of the other country’s languages, culture and society and benefit from professional and personal development.

      To date, Canada has entered into 30 other bilateral arrangements on youth mobility through the International Experience Canada initiative. …"

  • hollinm

    It all starts with the Leader of the Opposition. When will he ever ask a straight forward specific question that actually requires an answer? He sets the tone because he asks the first question.

    Obviously if Chretien and the rest of his goons had bought the helicopters there would be no need for subsequent governments to deal with the matter.

    • evenflow

      Stephen Harper is the Prime Minister of this country, it is his actions and leadership that is responsible for QP being what it is.

      • hollinm

        You got to be kidding. The opposition are innocent little children who have no responsibilty to ensure that they are dealing with issues of substance and working in the best interest of the country etc. etc.

        Question Period is forty five minutes out of a day. Come on. Get real.

  • wilson

    And The Stupid People's Party has an 11 point lead on the elites:

    In the online survey of a representative national sample of 1,016 Canadian adults, 37 per cent of respondents (+3 since September) would support the governing Conservative Party in the next federal election.

    The Liberal Party is second with 26 per cent (=), followed by the New Democratic Party (NDP) with 19 per cent (+1), the Bloc Québécois with 10 per cent (=), and the Green Party with six per cent (-5).
    http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/43427/conservativ…

  • wilson

    And The Stupid People's Party has an 11 point lead on the elites:

    In the online survey of a representative national sample of 1,016 Canadian adults, 37 per cent of respondents (+3 since September) would support the governing Conservative Party in the next federal election.

    The Liberal Party is second with 26 per cent (=), followed by the New Democratic Party (NDP) with 19 per cent (+1), the Bloc Québécois with 10 per cent (=), and the Green Party with six per cent (-5).
    http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/43427/conservativ…

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