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The Commons: Sergeant Harper deploys his decibels

by Aaron Wherry on Thursday, October 28, 2010 6:50pm - 0 Comments

The Scene. Flirting dangerously with a public demonstration of intellect, Ralph Goodale opened with a reference to Einstein. “The definition of insanity,” Mr. Goodale mused, referring to the father of modern physics, “is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”

This could’ve been understood as a comment on most of the actors in our political process, but in this case was apparently intended as a reference to the Prime Minister. ”In the case of the Chinook military helicopters, the Conservative sole-sourced, untendered, non-competitive process caused overruns of 100 percent and at least five years delay. The Auditor General says that fiasco could well be repeated on the F-35 purchase; sole-sourced, untendered, non-competitive,” the Liberal deputy continued. “Why will the government not listen to Sheila Fraser, define the specifications and get competitive bids?”

The Prime Minister stood here to dismiss this. “Mr. Speaker, of course, nothing could be further from the tooth,” he shrugged, quickly correctly himself to say “truth.”

Yesterday the Prime Minister blamed a decision of the previous Liberal government for all that currently ails the Defence Department. And so today, if only to be fair, the Prime Minister commended a decision of the previous Liberal government for enabling his government to now so lavishly demonstrate its unique support for the troops.

“We are following a process that was put in place by the previous government,” he explained, wagging his fist to demonstrate assurance. “The previous government put that in place because it understood that at the end of this decade we have to replace our CF-18 fighters and we have to be part of a world consortium and get the best for that year, not just the best planes, but get the work here to be done in this country. That is why the previous government did it.”

How to explain that the current Liberal opposition’s concerns about a Conservative government purchase the Prime Minister now trace to the previous Liberal government whose defence policy he regularly laments? The answer seemed obvious. ”Now Liberals want to play coalition politics to scrap this deal,” Mr. Harper ventured. “This government will not play politics with the men and women of the armed forces or the Canadian air force.”

He did not specifically exclude the Navy here. Presumably they thus remain fair game.

Mr. Goodale, ever fastidious, stood with a clarification. “Mr. Speaker,” he advised, “the previous government preserved the right to tender.”

Well then.

He proceeded to review the plight of the child-rearing, parent-minding, hard-working, penny-pinching, heavily indebted Canadian family. ”Why,” he asked, “can’t the Conservatives do what is right for the air force and right for the taxpayer at the same time?”

The Prime Minister typically builds to a full-throated yell, but here he went directly to a shout. Indeed, he seems now committed to yelling his way through this debate, to defeating his detractors with decibels. Whatever this will lack in reason and logic, it is not without rationale—this official opposition typically quite easy to scare. ”When it comes to managing taxpayers’ money through a recession I will not make any apologies to a party that cut the military, that cut health care, that cut education and that raised taxes,” Mr. Harper cried. “We are on a very different track in this government.”

Now apparently quite eager to incite the Prime Minister, the Liberal deputy directed his next question at the heart Mr. Harper has so proudly strapped to his sleeve. “It is only the Conservative that insists on being reckless, that demands a blank cheque, that says to satisfy the air force it has to break all the rules and waste $3 billion,” Mr. Goodale proclaimed. “Do Conservatives not know what an insult that is to the Canadian Forces?”

This was more than enough and now the Prime Minister was off, shouting, damning, declaring and demonstrably carrying on—yesterday’s unburdening having apparently not quite exhausted his sense of indignation. “Mr. Speaker, Liberals can talk all they want about investments they made in the military. We are not going to find a single person in the military anywhere in this country who believes that, because they know about the decade of darkness,” he asserted, now back to damning Liberal defence policy.

“Calm down,” beseeched a Liberal voice, perhaps fearing for the Prime Minister’s blood pressure. “Calm down.”

“The party opposite and its coalition friends use every attempt, every piece of misinformation to try and oppose anything we do for our men and women in uniform,” the Prime Minister finished. “It is absolutely disgraceful.”

We are now surely headed toward the day when Mr. Harper will appear here in a camouflage suit and beret. Perhaps to demonstrate his support for the troops, he might additionally vow to serve only military rations at 24 Sussex and replace his campaign bus for the next election with a blue tank.

But first here was Dominic LeBlanc, the Liberal proving he could speak in a loud voice too and beseeching the Prime Minister to explain why he’d supported a Liberal decision to cancel a helicopter program that Mr. Harper had cited yesterday as a mistake. Selflessly throwing himself in front of this alleged contradiction, Peter MacKay leapt up to assert that Mr. LeBlanc himself had once been supportive of the purchase of new fighter jets. “He has completely turned himself inside out,” the Defence Minister exclaimed.

If so uncomfortably contorted, Mr. LeBlanc is hardly alone at this moment.

The Stats. The military, seven questions. Foreign investment, five questions. Veterans and foreign aid, four questions each. Ethics, infrastructure and taxation, three questions each. Omar Khadr and the G20, two questions each. Rights & Democracy, crime, immigration, disability benefits, North Korea and firefighters, one question each.

Peter MacKay, eight answers. Stephen Harper, six answers. Lawrence Cannon, Bev Oda and Jim Flaherty, four answers each. Chuck Strahl and Tony Clement, three answers each. Vic Toews and John Baird, two answers each. Rob Nicholson, Jason Kenney and Stockwell Day, one answer each.

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  • stan

    Its about time we gave the men and women of the armed forces new equipment. yes its cost more now that's due to the liberals calling of the black hawk deal when the sea kings where crashing into the sea. this is just the liberals and their friends crying over the fact that the didn't do it before conservatives did, as they once again are trying to but up the red wall as they think the blue is scary.

    • Keith in Brampton

      …Pt 2:
      The Harper government, far from being open, is one of the most secretive ever. Promise after promise has been broken. Science is ignored if it conflicts with ideology. Vendettas against anyone who dares dissent is SOP.

      At this point, Harper & Co have broken their word so many times, and are so deep in slime, that I just can't bring myself to vote for them. And THAT, in a nutshell, is why the Conservatives can't get their majority – it's because they have so completely disappointed the "blue liberal" swing votes they desperately need. It's all about integrity – and Harper has none.

      • http://canadiansense.blogspot.com/ CanadianSense

        I am not too worried a regular Liberal voter won't be changing his decision to abandon the Liberal Party. It is consistent with the analysis of a board certified in both general and forensic psychiatry Lyle H. Rossiter, Jr., M.D.

        • Keith in Brampton

          Huh?

          And BTW, while I do vote for the Liberals more often than for other parties, I'm not tied to them and have – gasp! – voted for the old PC party on occasion in the past. (NDP have yet to get my vote – as noted above, I'm right at the crossroads where the old Liberal & PC parties used to overlap.)

          I also happen to agree with some of the policies that Harper & Co once trumpeted – but alas, they were among the first items they abandoned once they got control. So I AM the very epitome of the type of voter the CPC needs to win over in order to get their majority.

  • none

    Quote from Harper " I make the rules"

  • Hansel

    ”When it comes to managing taxpayers’ money through a recession I will not make any apologies to a party that cut the military, that cut health care, that cut education and that raised taxes,” Mr. Harper cried. “We are on a very different track in this government.”

    Yeah on the way to a future full of deficits because that was the formula that balanced our budgets and you don't seem go understand that, some conservative.

  • Jenn_

    "Competition Analysis must be done by EACH country: why?"
    Really? Seriously? Well, how about because each sovereign country (U.K., Australia, New Zealand, U.S., Canada, specifically) is slightly different and with different priorities and worldviews. For example, Australia might want to know how well these things work in hot, dry environments, while we wouldn't care overmuch about that. We care about extreme cold conditions, and I doubt the U.K. is much bothered by that. Then there is the level at which each country can't operate a cost-effective program–like three airplanes would not be sustainable, or maybe 200 would never have enough storage for them when they're not flying, or 50 is great because you also have these other planes, or whatever the situation is. They wouldn't be the same. And finally, our elected representatives are accountable to us. We can't go complain to the New Zealanders because their analyses said it would work and it turns out it doesn't.

    "At present I don't see an official opposition political party that has put the interest of our nation ahead of their political fortune."
    I'll give you that one if you give me the same with regard to our government. That is not to say that the government has not ever done anything that benefits our nation, but it is more of an added bonus while the focus is on what is best for the party. I'll give you the same with the Liberals.

    And I guess this is a good place to mention that I, too, am less than happy about some of the stuff the Liberals have pulled. Like voting for things while speaking against them, or not showing up to vote at all, or other CRAP politics CRAP!
    "I never voted PC, was a former Liberal voter. Liberals for many reasons they did not improve on the accountability or transparency of government after Mulroney. They blocked the AG in her reviews and ability to audit many programs and department."
    Haha! That's on you then, since I was a PCer at the time. :) I was until the fateful day that MacKay promised not to merge with the Reform/Alliance whatever, then promptly broke his promise. And this is, specifically, the guy you expect me to trust.

  • Jenn_

    There's a lot of stuff here I have to agree with. And yet it all seems to be a one-way street. Liberals are Bad. Okay, I think so too a lot of the time. I'm in there working to make it better, but I'm fairly inept, you know. Fortunately, I am far from alone within the Liberal Party and we just might make a difference eventually. That said, you are playing the political game, yourself, in denying the existence of the realities on the ground. The Liberals (and the other parties, too, but they'll have to speak for themselves) can't afford an election every two or three months. Further, they will take the blame (why, I'm not sure, but that's the way it is) for forcing the electorate to the polls every time they turn around. Harper is doing everything he can think of to make that happen–working collaborately is the last thing on his mind. And yet it is the opposition parties you blame squarely for "The political games 24/7 is undermining support for participation in politics, democracy and doing the right thing."

    We Canadians have elected a minority government, not once, or twice, but three times in a row. That leads me to conclude we the people meant it, collectively. It is well past time that ALL parties stopped this nonsense. I think the leader should lead it.

    • http://canadiansense.blogspot.com/ CanadianSense

      What in particular am I denying? Can you give me specifics? 77 Liberals are NOT all bad. The leadership has decided to avoid concrete ideas (adult conversation) and stick to them. They refuse to hold to any principles and fold because they can't win an election. Why not let the NDP or Bloc play hide and seek. I remember in the Fall 2009 Jack having to save the Conservative government because "Canadians did not want an election, making parliament work line". Jack is pitching a 5% reduction in heating home while supporting a Global Bank Tax, Carbon Taxes (Green Economy), EI increase 35%. How does that math make sense?

  • snake0672

    __“Mr. Speaker, Liberals can talk all they want about investments they made in the military. We are not going to find a single person in the military anywhere in this country who believes that, because they know about the decade of darkness,”

    Whether you agree with him or not I wish he wouldn't use the military for his own political purposes. I am in the military and his opinion does not reflect my own opininon. .

  • prescott

    Sergeant Harper deploys his decibels

    LOL – when I first read this, I thought it said "Sergeant Harper destroys his dessicated balls". Seemed believable.

  • Devin

    Sigh, I don't like what representative democracy has become, somewhere it's stopped representing Canadians. Who can honestly say they believe in the party leaders, the unelected senate, MP's and MPP's. Even the Judicial system seems to be collapsing in on itself. Just based on their actions I have no idea what these people stand for, Harper was all for accountability but he's halted the democratic process twice now. I'm tired of promises, the lies, and the scandals. I'm disgusted by the way media spins issues and events in order to suede public opinion.

    I believe as Canadians we need to get away from this archaic party system, and change the system to one based on direct democracy. We need to make the system that affects our lives more relevant to our lives. We need to make our democratic process more open, and we need the people we send to parliament to actually represent not an ideology or party dogma but actually the people who voted for them. We need a system where elected individuals take their different ideas and synthesize them to create the best outcome. Question period should be a time of collaboration, not yelling and shouting. I believe this possible, but only if the reign’s powers are in the people hands. If our representative is not representing us they should be pulled immediately, we as citizens should be able to veto laws as a majority, or introduce new initiatives. Canada is not a building, an anthem, or a flag; Canada is us the people.

    • Kevin

      Sadly Devin, nothing will change in a first past the post electoral system or in a country where a Provincial party is allowed to be a Federal party, ie. the Bloc. I grew up in Eastern Ontario and when I first voted, my Father told me I was insane for voting Reform when P. Manning first ran. Years later, both of my parents voted Reform due to the Liberal corruption and boondoggles. I have voted for the Conservatives since Harper untied the right and will continue to do so as the lesser of two evils. Despite being fiscal conservatives, the Harper Tories will never be able to enact the business and entrepeneurial friendly tax schemes that could make us world leaders due to the fact that we have welfare provinces, ie. Quebec and the Maritimes who will see that no party that doesn't shovel money in their direction will ever receive a majority government. If the Conservatives ever receieved a majority, they would immediately eliminate transfer payments to the provinces and tell them to get their own houses in order, which will never happen, because they would immediately be voted out of power forever. I understand that Harper has ignored the principles he preached, but he wouldn't be PM right now if he hadn't.

  • Keith in Brampton

    Quite the ramble there, CS!

    I tend to vote Liberal, but I'm not a hard and fast supporter of any party. At present, I'm not at all enamoured of the Liberals, so I ought to be a prime candidate for conversion – the proverbial "swing vote".

    When Harper first took over, I was looking forward to seeing him keep his promise of an open government with no corruption or favoritism – and then right off the bat he gives a Liberal a cabinet post to switch sides and appoints someone else to the Senate so he can have him in cabinet. It's been downhill ever since.

    • http://canadiansense.blogspot.com/ CanadianSense

      Both the Democrats and Toronto liberals are convinced they know what’s best for the masses, even if the masses massively disagree. They believe that many of the people who vote for their opponents are basically deluded, ignorant and poorly educated (even though the Republicans are currently leading by 20 per cent among U.S. college graduates). They also believe the people on the other side are basically intolerant, anti-immigrant racists (even though a pre-election poll said half of voters born outside Canada were set to cast votes for Mr. Ford).

      Many of us can see the signs of Cognitive Dissonance inside the voters of Liberal voters.

      This a very stressful time as Polls, balance sheet clearly show Liberals are falling farther behind.
      The NDP may beat the Liberals fundraising in the Q3 2010.

      • Keith in Brampton

        And this has to do with Harper… how? I'm discussing Canadian, federal politics. How I vote provincially or municipally does not generally influence my federal vote, and vice versa. Different issues; different people. As far as voting goes, American opinion matters only insofar as it impacts Canadian foreign affairs – I don't vote (or live) in the US.

        Arguably, the CPC also "are convinced they know what’s best for the masses, even if the masses massively disagree. They believe that many of the people who vote for their opponents are basically deluded…" Given the poll numbers, the best they can say is that they have a larger minority backing them than the other parties.

        Personally, I think it's time we get away from "first-past-the-post" electoral practices; in a pluralistic society, it is an antiquated practice.

        • http://canadiansense.blogspot.com/ CanadianSense

          Spoken like a person living in Brampton – Toronto. You need to do some traveling outside your big city to explore Canada.

          Your definition of a pluralistic society DOES NOT exist.

          • Keith in Brampton

            Grew up in Gander NL; lived is St. John's for a number of years; even spent a year in Makkovik, Labrador – among other places. Brampton is just my most recent home. Have visited many provinces; have spent time in an immersion French program in Quebec. Am definitely NOT a "Torontonian." Don't make stupid assumptions,

            You ever escape whatever little corner you've painted yourself into?

  • wilson

    "Yesterday's Obsolete Equipment, Good Enough for Our Troops Tomorrow"

    Like 4 rusted out inoperable British submarines tossed on the junk heap, and bought by the Chretien government.

    On one of the sub's maiden voyage, fire broke out and a Canadian sailor was killed, 3 injured.

    That's how the Chretien Liberals treated our forces during the Decade of Darkness.

    • Emily

      So that cockamamie version of the story makes this cockamamie purchase okay does it?

    • OntarioTown

      Wilson – do you not pay attention to "real" facts? Canada was broke in 1993 – losing our credit rating and IMF was extremely concerned. No credit – no borrowing. You can't be that stupid.

      Big mouth Hillier couldn't say enough good things about Bill Graham back in those so-called dark days when Graham was actually taking the steps to beef up the military, but hey, a stupid election happened.

      Oh, and don't forget that Stephen Harper supported the cuts back in the day.

      So, please stop your limited thinking partisan BS and check it all out before you go to you post-it notes.

  • bennji1977

    It is understandable – until he get's his snazzy new planes, it is really hard for Mr. Harper to speak sorftly and carry a big stick.

    So for the foreseable future – we are in for some more yelling.

  • won'tgetfooledagain

    The case of Sheila Fynes and her son, is only one of many. When are Canadians going to realize just how this Harper Reform government lies, obfuscates and smears on each and every issue. Be it the F-35's, Veteran Affairs, having our troops kicked out of UAE, the loss of the UN security seat, the RCMP debacle, prorogation over the Afghan Detainees, this goes back right to Chuck Cadman and Income Trust Tax. Can Canadians not see how this government is filled with political sociopaths. And yet it only continues…our country is in trouble. We used to wonder why Americans would allow George W. Bush to stay in power…well now we know.

  • arturolexo

    Nice to hear Ralph Goodale quoting one of the most hackneyed cliches of all time. Even better to hear Wheely give it credence.

  • hollinm

    Given what MacKay said in the House today I suspect that this issue will be dealt with pretty quickly.

    However, there are enough stories coming out which shows the bureaucrats running the show in Veterans Affairs are deliberately screwing up or they have become so arrogant and uncaring that they treat our military personnel and their families with disdain. I suspect that this was the attitude when the Liberals were in power. They had no use for the military and did everything they could to destroy it. The bureaucrats who are still in Veterans Affairs are continuing to exhibit this same attitude. Its time to clean house. The Deputy Minister needs to go and fast.

  • arturolexo

    Wow, Wheely, you better watch your own blood pressure. You sound really stressed out! Good for liberals to be that way every now and then.

  • INFORMYCOUNTRY

    Really? MacKay said he'd personally speak with the Sheila Fynes. On Power and Politics she said he hadn't and instead one of Mackay's lackies will speak to her instead and DND has yet to do that…she is flying out tomorrow. I'm sure somebody will chase her down at the airport and by her a Tim Horton's coffee and the lip service that comes with this appalling bunches of bastards.

  • Nighttrain

    You don't suppose, at all, that those horrible bureaucrats, after four years of Conservative control, aren't toeing the line and carrying out the dictats of their political masters? Really?

  • brooster2

    Are you blaming the Liberals for current events in DVA?

  • Brutus110

    Now you cannot have it both ways. You smear one fella, an ombudsman…passing his info to reporters ( he drinks, wink wink ) You pass on personal files of another, a real thorn in the lions foot – but I digress. Now looking to settle ( read political whores ) and here we have the snake eating its own tail…. MINISTERIAL RESPONSIBILITY. Strike three

  • dave

    No, this is merely standard insurance industry practice being applied to veteran's services. There's nothing that's been done here that's not straight out of their playbook.

  • radha pather

    Another very tragic case regarding veteran who committed suicide and his mother Sheila Fynes was on Power and Politics with Evan Solomon today discussing her ‘battle’ with Depts of Defence, Veteran Affairs and Justice for the last 2 years similiar to Bruyea .

  • Thwim

    Of course not. If they're doing wrong, it's obviously because it's the Liberal way.
    If they're doing good, it's because it's the Conservative way.

    See? As long as you remember that it keeps things nice and neat and they don't have to use any of that cholesterol stuffed up in their skulls.

  • Thwim

    Of course he is, this is hollinm.. oh wait.. you're new here, aren't you? Welcome! :)

  • hollinm

    How else do you explain Strogan's complaints. He is talking about bureaucrats. He is not talking about the PM, PMO or Jean Pierre Blackburn. Wake up. Do you think that Blackburn is sitting at his desk telling the bureaucrats to beat up the soldiers and their families. Nice try but most rationale Canadians know better.

  • brooster2

    Thanks for the hospitality but I've been rattling around here long enough to have debated hollinm more than once and labeled "leftie" by more than him.

  • Jenn_

    I still don't know. Even while I see it happening here in front of my eyes, I still don't understand it.

  • Brutus110

    Dont worry Peters gonna phone her. Yeah…

  • Claudia Lemire

    Listen to Goodale opening remarks about Einstein, that's something that the LIberals need to get, and learn because so far they are handing Harper his job in a silver tray!

  • Brutus110

    Strange to hear that a Con hack recognized the words of wisdom , from the Book of scriptiors oh Harperland

  • hollinm

    Don't let the facts get in the way. MacKay said he only heard about this issue this morning. Of course we know that you consider MacKay to be a liar and anything he says can't be true.

  • hollinm

    Prove that Blackburn or anybody else asked for the files and began circulating them. It sounds like this was the practice long before the Conservatives came to power. However, don't let me interrupt your partisan story line.

  • brooster2

    Excuse me, who's asleep here?

    There's little doubt the issues in DVA go back to the Liberal era, but a government run by adults eventually has to own up to events happening on their watch. They've had the keys to the suite for four years now. When do they finally take responsibility for cleaning it up? Either they haven't been aware of the bureaucratic transgressions (highly unlikely, but if so, evidence of negligence or incompetence) or they've known and condoned the culture of the department, in which case they're complicit.

    Or are they still advertising themselves as "Your New Government"?

  • hollinm

    dave….if as you say they are folloing insurance industry practice then it is pretty cold blooded.

  • burlivespipe

    Sort of like harper pretending to not know anything about the bruyea issue when he HAD it on his desk three years ago — and dealt with it like he's had in most sticky situations, deny, sneek, cheat.
    Harper's affinity for the armed forces only goes as far as the next photo op.

  • Jan

    Yes, fits of pique and a limp stick. I was hoping for a better end to this.

  • laurence

    When are we going to learn? When we are so over stretched and in debt as a country that we all suffer. No bid contracts, for fighter Jets.
    G20 alone 1.3 + BILLION DOLLARS. It's time to put Stevie on a fiscal diet or our country will go beyond the tripping point. I am tired of him peeing our shoes and telling us it's raining no matter how much you shout.

  • Jan

    She has already said someone caller her and said that 'someone' wouold call her. Mackay is a disgrace.

  • Claudia Lemire

    Here in Canada it's quite simple, Canadians will vote for Harper even though they don't approve of his methods but he is less scary than Ignatieff who doesn't seem to know what he is doing at all, they are more scare about how he would screw the economy because so far every single thing that he has said has backfired, we need a new leader, or he needs to get some balls of steel and turn this thing around!

  • WANTMYCOUNTRYBACK

    If you look closely at Stephen Harper's record I think you'll see a string of broken election promises, a complete reversal on transparency and accountability, furthermore a suppression of the truth and a number of issues that only a man with power can abuse, being the PM, including prorogation and contempt of parliament. And in the political arenas where Harper is basically neutered, he has failed miserably due to a complete lack of leadership or vision; U.N. security council, Copenhagen and of course his own G20/G8 failure to mobilize nations on his maternity foreign aid that most disagreed with and saw it for what it was…meaning domestic ideology electioneering rather a view of the world's needs.

    I can guarantee you Michael Ignatieff would not abuse his powers as PM in such fashion, would not indulge in divisive politics at home or abroad.

    You may whine that Ignatieff is somehow spineless, but the truth of the matter, that as any leader of the opposition the power does not lie with Ignatieff to implement decisions in our country. Yet he managed to keep the Long Gun Registry from being scrapped and has kept Stephen Harper, (by the latest polls) to a minority

  • Conbuster

    You get the government you deserve. All any politician can do is ask for your vote. If you wish to be apathetic, condescending and an arm chair quarterback…live is simple and dumbed down. What Goodale was say is that this Harper government refuses to listen to anybody, the professionals, the scientists, the people that know how to get it right and our country is being driven into the ground, while the Harper Reform Party lies through it's teeth ever foot of the way.

  • Andre

    I just got an idea. Next time some old git is going to complain about taxes and the economy I'm going to ask them when's the last time they saw Question Period. Cue blank stare and revelation of the decade "You get the government you deserve."

  • Keith in Brampton

    Completely concur with your evaluation of Harper, but I'm not diggin' Iggy. I may just vote Green next time, as a protest vote (oh, how I wish we had "None of the above" as an option on the ballots!).

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