The enrollment controversy*

Worries that efforts in the U.S. to limit enrollment of Asian students in top universities may migrate to Canada

by Stephanie Findlay and Nicholas Köhler on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 9:51am - 1,912 Comments
'Too Asian'

PHOTOGRAPH BY ANDREW TOLSON/ SIMON HAYTER


When Alexandra and her friend Rachel, both graduates of Toronto’s Havergal College, an all-girls private school, were deciding which university to go to, they didn’t even bother considering the University of Toronto. “The only people from our school who went to U of T were Asian,” explains Alexandra, a second-year student who looks like a girl from an Aritzia billboard. “All the white kids,” she says, “go to Queen’s, Western and McGill.”

Alexandra eventually chose the University of Western Ontario. Her younger brother, now a high school senior deciding where he’d like to go, will head “either east, west or to McGill”—unusual academic options, but in keeping with what he wants from his university experience. “East would suit him because it’s chill, out west he could be a ski bum,” says Alexandra, who explains her little brother wants to study hard, but is also looking for a good time—which rules out U of T, a school with an academic reputation that can be a bit of a killjoy.

Or, as Alexandra puts it—she asked that her real name not be used in this article, and broached the topic of race at universities hesitantly—a “reputation of being Asian.”

Discussing the role that race plays in the self-selecting communities that more and more characterize university campuses makes many people uncomfortable. Still, an “Asian” school has come to mean one that is so academically focused that some students feel they can no longer compete or have fun. Indeed, Rachel, Alexandra and her brother belong to a growing cohort of student that’s eschewing some big-name schools over perceptions that they’re “too Asian.” It’s a term being used in some U.S. academic circles to describe a phenomenon that’s become such a cause for concern to university admissions officers and high school guidance counsellors that several elite universities to the south have faced scandals in recent years over limiting Asian applicants and keeping the numbers of white students artificially high.

Although university administrators here are loath to discuss the issue, students talk about it all the time. “Too Asian” is not about racism, say students like Alexandra: many white students simply believe that competing with Asians—both Asian Canadians and international students—requires a sacrifice of time and freedom they’re not willing to make. They complain that they can’t compete for spots in the best schools and can’t party as much as they’d like (too bad for them, most will say). Asian kids, meanwhile, say they are resented for taking the spots of white kids. “At graduation a Canadian—i.e. ‘white’—mother told me that I’m the reason her son didn’t get a space in university and that all the immigrants in the country are taking up university spots,” says Frankie Mao, a 22-year-old arts student at the University of British Columbia. “I knew it was wrong, being generalized in this category,” says Mao, “but f–k, I worked hard for it.”

That Asian students work harder is a fact born out by hard data. They tend to be strivers, high achievers and single-minded in their approach to university. Stephen Hsu, a physics prof at the University of Oregon who has written about the often subtle forms of discrimination faced by Asian-American university applicants, describes them as doing “disproportionately well—they tend to have high SAT scores, good grades in high school, and a lot of them really want to go to top universities.” In Canada, say Canadian high school guidance counsellors, that means the top-tier post-secondary institutions with international profiles specializing in math, science and business: U of T, UBC and the University of Waterloo. White students, by contrast, are more likely to choose universities and build their school lives around social interaction, athletics and self-actualization—and, yes, alcohol. When the two styles collide, the result is separation rather than integration.

The dilemma is this: Canadian institutions operate as pure meritocracies when it comes to admissions, and admirably so. Privately, however, many in the education community worry that universities risk becoming too skewed one way, changing campus life—a debate that’s been more or less out in the open in the U.S. for years but remains muted here. And that puts Canadian universities in a quandary. If they openly address the issue of race they expose themselves to criticisms that they are profiling and committing an injustice. If they don’t, Canada’s universities, far from the cultural mosaics they’re supposed to be—oases of dialogue, mutual understanding and diversity—risk becoming places of many solitudes, deserts of non-communication. It’s a tough question to have to think about.

Asian-Canadian students are far more likely to talk about and assert their ethnic identities than white students. “I’m Asian,” says 21-year-old Susie Su, a third-year student at UBC’s Sauder School of Business. “I do have traditional Asian parents. I feel the pressure of finding a good job and raising a good family.” That pressure helps shape more than just the way Su handles study and school assignments; it shapes the way she interacts with her colleagues. “If I feel like it’s going to be an event where it’s all white people, I probably wouldn’t want to go,” she says. “There’s a lot of just drinking. It’s not that I don’t like white people. But you tend to hang out with people of the same race.”

Catherine Costigan, a psychology assistant prof at the University of Victoria, says it’s unsurprising that Asian students are segregated from “mainstream” campus life. She cites studies that show Chinese youth are bullied more than their non-Asian peers. As a so-called “model minority,” they are more frequently targeted because of being “too smart” and “teachers’ pets.” To counter peer ostracism and resentment, Costigan says Chinese students reaffirm their ethnicity.

The value of education has been drilled into Asian students by their parents, likely for cultural and socio-economic reasons. “It’s often described that Asians are the new Jews,” says Jon Reider, director of college counselling at San Francisco University High School and a former Stanford University admissions officer. “That in the face of discrimination, what you do is you study. And there’s a long tradition in Chinese culture, for example, going back to Confucius, of social mobility based on merit.”

*This article was originally titled “‘Too Asian’?” For our response to the controversy it has generated, click here.

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  • X (Chung)

    Vive la différence.

    I actually would consider learning new languages as a "social skill" in this globalized world (vs only knowing English).

    But no doubt, many people have phobias about new languages be it math, programming, Chinese or French (and many additionally translate that into some phobia of people or cultures associated with those languages). Others no doubt just have a phobia of people who "look" different – why Asians don't seem to be identified as Canadians but rather from China in this story. Most Chinese students are Canadian.

    Perhaps Maclean's should broaden staff skills to be more socially dexterous with other kinds of people who are a part of Canada – at least to the point of distinguishing between Chinese who are Canadian and Chinese who are from China.

    On peut écrire des nouvelles choses.

  • Disgusted

    Let's see. First Maclean's slags the entire Muslim popluation as deviants and terrorists, thanks to Mark Steyn. Then this year they stereotype Quebecers as predisposed to corruption, letting Rogers do the apologizing after the fact. And now, a huge story on how white kids are upset because some other kids who happen to be Asian work harder, get better grades and don't drink as much?? You are kidding, right? What happened to merit and fair play?

    Read Walrus. Read TIme. Boycott the rag that Maclean's Stains has become.

    • disgustedtoo

      Yes, Macleans really downgraded itself into the toilet (if it was ever above the toilet level!)

      With such piece of crap proudly published by Macleans, do you think it is up to basic standards? Now I seriously doubt the quality of Maclean's publications.

      Glad that I never bought or subscribed to Macleans, and I don't think I'll do so in the future.

  • bored

    I never bought one Macleans magazine when I went to university in my days, and after reading this article, I am glad I never did.

  • Liz C

    Exactly! man you people are too much!! So now U of T goes from an elite school to a school that is “Elite but….” I guess that is why U of T cannot even buy a first place ranking in this very same Maclean;s University rankings anymore! Funny how it use to be consistently ranked number one a decade ago when U of T was still a nice “white” university but now its seen as “Asian” it could not beat McGill (one of the schools the white kids flock to as refuge from us Asians) for the number one spot if its life depended on it! Coincidence? You tell me. That’s all right we will send our kids to McGill as soon s we take all the spaces at U of T. To quote one of Canada’s great singer songwriters (with liberties taken): “first we take U of T, then we take McGiiiiiiiillll!” (yeha Chinese kids even know of Leonard Cohen crazy huh?), Oh then we will take Queens, and Western and..well u get the drift. There shall be no refuge from the sino surge!! Get use to it white Canada because the fact is the standard of living is being raised in Canada precisely because we contribute our talents hereto make everything better! Sorry if you cannot keep up to the high standards we set. Wow you people have moved on from discriminating against blacks and Arabs and now on to us huh? Well guess what? It is just NOT the same, Chinese know they have real power behind us..its called China! So do your worse..Elect Toronto’s Mayor “sinophobic” Ford, Tea Party Harper and that guy from the provincial conservatives in Ontario if you must, makes no difference. Fact is Canada and ALL other western nations needs China more than China needs them. So who is in the drivers seat tell me? Yellow as sunshine and loving it! (no we all dont wanna be white, bananas are so pre-super power Chinal)

  • Liz C

    Exactly! man you people are too much!! So now U of T goes from an elite school to a school that is “Elite but….” I guess that is why U of T cannot even buy a first place ranking in this very same Maclean;s University rankings anymore! Funny how it use to be consistently ranked number one a decade ago when U of T was still a nice “white” university but now its seen as “Asian” it could not beat McGill (one of the schools the white kids flock to as refuge from us Asians) for the number one spot if its life depended on it! Coincidence? You tell me. That’s all right we will send our kids to McGill as soon s we take all the spaces at U of T. To quote one of Canada’s great singer songwriters (with liberties taken): “first we take U of T, then we take McGiiiiiiiillll!” (yeha Chinese kids even know of Leonard Cohen crazy huh?), Oh then we will take Queens, and Western and..well u get the drift. There shall be no refuge from the sino surge!! Get use to it white Canada because the fact is the standard of living is being raised in Canada precisely because we contribute our talents hereto make everything better! Sorry if you cannot keep up to the high standards we set. Wow you people have moved on from discriminating against blacks and Arabs and now on to us huh? Well guess what? It is just NOT the same, Chinese know they have real power behind us..its called China! So do your worse..Elect Toronto’s Mayor “sinophobic” Ford, Tea Party Harper and that guy from the provincial conservatives in Ontario if you must, makes no difference. Fact is Canada and ALL other western nations needs China more than China needs them. So who is in the drivers seat tell me? Yellow as sunshine and loving it! (no we all dont wanna be white, bananas are so pre-super power Chinal)

  • Liz C

    Exactly! man you people are too much!! So now U of T goes from an elite school to a school that is “Elite but….” I guess that is why U of T cannot even buy a first place ranking in this very same Maclean;s University rankings anymore! Funny how it use to be consistently ranked number one a decade ago when U of T was still a nice “white” university but now its seen as “Asian” it could not beat McGill (one of the schools the white kids flock to as refuge from us Asians) for the number one spot if its life depended on it! Coincidence? You tell me. That’s all right we will send our kids to McGill as soon s we take all the spaces at U of T. To quote one of Canada’s great singer songwriters (with liberties taken): “first we take U of T, then we take McGiiiiiiiillll!” (yeha Chinese kids even know of Leonard Cohen crazy huh?), Oh then we will take Queens, and Western and..well u get the drift. There shall be no refuge from the sino surge!! Get use to it white Canada because the fact is the standard of living is being raised in Canada precisely because we contribute our talents hereto make everything better! Sorry if you cannot keep up to the high standards we set. Wow you people have moved on from discriminating against blacks and Arabs and now on to us huh? Well guess what? It is just NOT the same, Chinese know they have real power behind us..its called China! So do your worse..Elect Toronto’s Mayor “sinophobic” Ford, Tea Party Harper and that guy from the provincial conservatives in Ontario if you must, makes no difference. Fact is Canada and ALL other western nations needs China more than China needs them. So who is in the drivers seat tell me? Yellow as sunshine and loving it! (no we all dont wanna be white, bananas are so pre-super power Chinal)

  • Liz C

    Exactly! man you people are too much!! So now U of T goes from an elite school to a school that is “Elite but….” I guess that is why U of T cannot even buy a first place ranking in this very same Maclean;s University rankings anymore! Funny how it use to be consistently ranked number one a decade ago when U of T was still a nice “white” university but now its seen as “Asian” it could not beat McGill (one of the schools the white kids flock to as refuge from us Asians) for the number one spot if its life depended on it! Coincidence? You tell me. That’s all right we will send our kids to McGill as soon s we take all the spaces at U of T. To quote one of Canada’s great singer songwriters (with liberties taken): “first we take U of T, then we take McGiiiiiiiillll!” (yeha Chinese kids even know of Leonard Cohen crazy huh?), Oh then we will take Queens, and Western and..well u get the drift. There shall be no refuge from the sino surge!! Get use to it white Canada because the fact is the standard of living is being raised in Canada precisely because we contribute our talents hereto make everything better! Sorry if you cannot keep up to the high standards we set. Wow you people have moved on from discriminating against blacks and Arabs and now on to us huh? Well guess what? It is just NOT the same, Chinese know they have real power behind us..its called China! So do your worse..Elect Toronto’s Mayor “sinophobic” Ford, Tea Party Harper and that guy from the provincial conservatives in Ontario if you must, makes no difference. Fact is Canada and ALL other western nations needs China more than China needs them. So who is in the drivers seat tell me? Yellow as sunshine and loving it! (no we all dont wanna be white, bananas are so pre-super power Chinal)

  • Anonymous

    I found in University, that most asian students grouped together and cheated by passing down assignments from previous semesters and doing group work.  It  was win at all costs, and came from a culture of low moral standards.  They don’t even consider it cheating.  Even asian students hired by the universities, when giving other asian students written exams they give them the answers.  It was an us vs them and all the rules were in there favor.  I got so used to hearing Hindi when I was writing exams, that it made tests a joke. The teachers turned a blind eye, because the race card was always pulled. And they know the students will try to transfer out of their classes,especially if they were not core.
     
    Asians have lowered the standards of education, not raised it, but this  story is not told, for fear of being called a racist. They basically import their low moral standard from where they are from.  They cheat the immigration rules, their society has high amounts of corruption,they produce false documents eg. doctorates,  and this behavior is carried over to our universities.  Asians would all get an “A” in cheating.
     
    As for the schools they should be ashamed charging the international students twice the tuition then pushing us out. They advertise foreign students with Western woman in an intimate setting under the guise of diversity and equality which is totally unethical, to attract foreign students. 

    Universties are now a joke.

  • Dan Lee

    what a great article. so basically, we want to deter smart, hardworking students from pursuing higher education because they’re not drinking and partying hard enough, not very fun to hang with, have no “skills”, and/or they apparently have no life.
    okay. cool. i guess the next logical step is for corporates and governments to reduce/stop hiring smart, hardworking workers because they’re not drinking and partying hard enough, not very fun to hang with, have no “skills”, and/or they apparently have no life.

    wow. our society is so much better. where do we go from there? oh right. let’s change the immigration bar so that we only accept the dumbest, poorest, and laziest immigrants into the country, because the children of smart and diligent immigrants will edge our children out and take their spot in top universities.

  • Jonatan

    Unfortunately, is true! I am a second year student at The University of Toronto and as a white person I feel to belong to a minority, 6 out of 10 students are Asians and makes me feel uncomfortable. In regard to how “smart” they are I strongly disagree because I know of cases in which they have to purchase their essays to outsider in order to do well because they do not control the English language properly. This is not a case of racism is a reality and as scholar we need to speak out and tell the truth. We do have too many asians in our schools. 

  • Julie

    This article still enrages me to this day. I’m completely shocked that a reputable magazine like Maclean’s would publish an article like this. For those university applicants/students who wish to go to university to party, drop out of school and empty out space for people who actually want an education. There is a time and place for fun and for work. If you’re not serious about your studies, someone else will take advantage of an opportunity that you have. None of the university websites or brochures advertise an “epic party life” for students. They promise great education, and learning that facilitates better opportunities for jobs. People who blame certain races for their inability to “have fun” should grow up before they step into the real world. Ignorant people.

  • mankou

    Odd, I’m Chinese-Canadian and I don’t see anything racist in this article. Did you guys even read it?

    Good or bad most of the things it says are true. It’s not calling for less Asians in universities, it’s not saying Asians don’t deserve the spots or any of the things people here claim. For those of you that failed reading comprehension, there is a difference between outlining a phenomenon and supporting said phenomenon.

    The problem with Western countries is that they can’t keep a rational head when race is mentioned. Nearly 2,000 comments here and no one has said anything worthwhile because they’re all raging about “racism” and “xenophobia.” Half the time they’re responding to posts that aren’t even racist at all. And sad to say there’s more than a few Asians here who are just as racist as the people they claim to hate. Dedede, you’re an embarassment. The world isn’t made of just you, and white people. Especially not Canada. Get a grip.

    Here’s an actual Asian viewpoint sans political correctness:

    University admissions should be based on pure merit. Affirmative action is prejudice no matter who it’s set against. Yes, Asians tend to be geeky and not as sociable, because we put our grades before all else. Why should we be punished for that? It’s our choice to put academics first, and I’d say it pays off later on in life. It is up to everyone else to compete. You wanna go to a party college, fine. Not my problem. But if anyone wants the best spots they’re gonna have to outscore the other kids. Your grades either cut it or they don’t. Simple as that. Race doesn’t even come into it.

    Peace

  • Na

    tl;dr – topic is very offensive but I imagine the comments are more so.

  • Abc123

    UBC got crossed off my list because of this. Even SMU & Dal might get the axe from me, bring on McGill & Concordia!

  • JohnCamron

    torontonians are proud how their city is multicultural…. multiethnic……it is……… but it’s very segregated. it’s obvious that racism exists. dont think racism can ever go away. so what the heck. haha

    in regards to U of T having lots of asians, that is true. it simply is a university that is more close to home, less boarding fees/living costs i.e. UWO/queens. so of course it is more desired economically. in regards to asians being too competitive, how can they help not to be competitive? i thought high education is all about higher learning/achieving and competition…

  • Mr. Asia

    Simple solution: Stop getting drunk and hit the books; 

  • Goog

    Asimilate in to society….. Why dont White canadians take the lead and make efforts to integrate minority to mingle? Why do all expect visible minority to asimilate into the society. it should be bothways.Am I wrong ?

  • Egoboy

    "Africa" too. If you tell someone you're going to europe, the next question usually goes "where in europe?"
    if you tell someone you're going to Africa. 9/10 times the conversation ends. Casual generalization or just pure ignorance, you decide.

  • benny

    I used to live in Sudan, Africa for 5 years, and all my friends back home kept thinking I was living in South Africa… go figure.

  • romeogolf

    Conversation ends because the people you are talking to know very little about Africa. The ignorant generalize.

  • PatChan

    lead and make efforts to integrate minority to mingle?
    Can you write plain English.

  • Dave

    If someone moves to Canada it should be because the appreciate Canada for what it is, and not expect it to change to accommodate them. It's not like Canadians are heartless racists, but it's pretty frustrating when there are thousands of Chinese people moving here, only speaking to each other and making no effort to learn about Canada. If you want to cling to your own language (including SPELLING and GRAMMAR) and culture so badly, why not stay in China!?

  • Beege

    There's an old saying that goes," When in Rome, do as the Romans do." Get it? That is to say, don't expect all persons here to jump into your culture, when you, Asian, or foreigners in general, don't have a working knowledge of English.
    If I was to move to China or Japan, I shouldn't expect them to cater to me, but rather me to try overly to communicate with then in their language.

  • Carrrie3

    I agree!!
    why is it that someone asks some questions and immediately gets called "racist"?
    can we not have these discussions ?

  • http://www.delectablychic.com Cynthia

    I know plenty of students of Asian descent, including those at "whiter schools" like Queen's (and yes, there are a lot of Asians at Queen's) who were more or less "forced" into certain majors – usually hard sciences or business (and business, meaning finance, not more creative majors like marketing). I saw this with my very family. I have a distant relative who more or less CRITICIZED my parents for "allowing" me to pursue a liberal arts degree (B.A.Honours in history and drama) because it wouldn't lead me anywhere. I really wanted to ask her whether she'd ever heard of law school (though ultimately, I ended up in digital publishing), and I really regret not doing so. Also, out of all the first degree relatives in my generation, only two of us (out of nine) did not major in something that is what many Asians consider "useful." What's really interesting is that Asians really appreciate performing arts, but while young children take piano or violin (let's say), they aren't supposed to gain such an interest that it becomes a profession.

  • Matt W

    Spoken like someone with excellent social skills him/herself.

    By using quotes around "discriminate" I guess you think it's not actually discrimination then, eh?

    To follow your logic, I guess all those countries in Asia and corporations founded and run by Asians aren't leaders?

    Epic Fail UW Student.

  • JackL

    Written by a student person who will earn $40,000 for the rest of his or her life and never get a raise.

  • JeffP

    Written by a troll who earns nothing because he's too busy trolling comment sections from his mom's basement :P

  • emily

    My parents were criticized as well for letting me pursue a B.A. and I had little choice but to attend U of T over other schools I thought would be a better fit for me. I think their logic was, 'Well, if she must pursue this, then it better be at U of T' because then they can tell their friends I go to U of T and then try to avoid discussing what I'm studying in hopes that they assume it's engineering, math or business.

  • Claire

    I'm sorry, if white people wanna get into good universities, party less and study more.

    So these kids are expecting a spot in universities without equal amount of effort as the asians. do they think they deserve special treatment for being white ???

    Asians who were born in Canada are as canadian as white people. Something that white people never seem to realize, you guys are immigrants too, just immigrated many generations ago. If you are white, are you suddenly more canadian then an asian???

    It's true that Asians study harder than white people. Of course this is generalization as well, but this is mostly true. its unfair how asians must be criticized and discriminated upon for trying hard and being smart.

  • A.pl

    Yes, unfortunately that is exactly what some people are saying. They are saying that whites are deserving of special treatment because of their race. They are saying that Canada as a nation was built up by whites (they seem to have forgotten who built the railroads) and therefore as descendants of these original white founders, they should be given special privileges not allowed to others.

  • 123

    wanna is not a word.

  • A.pl

    Wow. White people are sure touchy, especially when they are their racism and white privilege are pointed out.

  • 123

    GET A LIFE. We all know that this article is going to spark a big "oh no, asians have found a way to be portrayed as victims…how can we compensate?" Quit worrying about it. Maybe you should read the article again.

  • Chesterfield

    "Get a life"… do you mean getting drunk, spreading your legs or spreading other people's legs? That is what you mean by life and fun, right, according to the article?

  • 123

    Yes, "Chesterfield." I literally meant get off the computer and go "spread other people's legs". (what does that even mean?) And for someone who is all in an uproar about the untrue facts being portrayed in the article, you're pretty quick to assume that the facts about white people are true.

  • 123

    And I'm pretty sure Chinese people are the masters of spreading their legs, considering there are 1.3 billion chinese people, so I wouldn't be pointing your finger at Canadians.

  • Dedede

    Where do white babies come from? What? Your parents are deadbeat?

  • Dedede

    It is their regime, after all.

  • 123

    Umm… pretty sure you are confused, little one. The point was about the vast amount of people. Perhaps you should only participate in conversations that you can keep up in. And why are you associating canadians with white skin? Ooooo you so racist.

  • Chesterfield

    If the authors did not associate Canadians with white skin then this article would not even be written.

  • romeogolf

    Good that you would try to learn Chinese or Japanese, Beege, if you moved to either of those countries. A lot of expats don't bother, which is why you find expat ghettos. Come to think of it, isn't that a phenomenon you see all over the world? Ethnic enclaves in major cities where Italians, Jews, Chinese, Irish, Indians, Greeks, Cubans, Vietnamese, etc. congregate?

    So what's all the fuss about? If immigrants stay in Canada, their Canadian-born children will be integrated. That's how long the process takes.

  • Liz C

    Romeogolf is the smartest white guy here his comments prove that “he gets it”. Now why are white Canadians so scared silly of sino power? China is currently the dominant world force and will just move to consolidate that power more and more over the coming decades so get use to it. Greace had its time, Rome had its time, Britannia once ruled the waves and everywhere else, then came the great hungry beast called America…hmm all Caucasians (we are talking about total world influence so lets not talk really consider the Egyptians, the Mongols or even the Hannibal and his elephants). Well what have we come to after so much “white power”. Lets take stalk. Well we had 400 years of slavery and the extermination of between 60 to 100 million people of a certain non-white race in the process; the colonization and destruction of peoples and cultures  that happen to be “not white enough” all over the world (India, Far East, American natives, South American natives, Africa, the Caribbean, swabs of the middle east need I go on?); the  must inhuman and cruel extermination of 6 million of their own white people because they still were not white enough for them since they had origins in Israel which is in the middle east (forgetting that their precious Jesus is NOT white but a Middle Eastern/African man); the creation  and use of the single most destructive weapon in the history of mankind (nuclear bomb) something that could wipe out our entire human race; the ruination of our environment bringing us to the brink of disaster; and lately the destruction of the world’s financial system and the creation of an economic abyss that we will likely never fully climb out of! So why not let us chinese dominate for a while and see how we do? So I ask you white people, what are you so afraid of? You should be scared of your own people not us! Yellow power baby.

  • Liz C

    Romeogolf is the smartest white guy here his comments prove that “he gets it”. Now why are white Canadians so scared silly of sino power? China is currently the dominant world force and will just move to consolidate that power more and more over the coming decades so get use to it. Greace had its time, Rome had its time, Britannia once ruled the waves and everywhere else, then came the great hungry beast called America…hmm all Caucasians (we are talking about total world influence so lets not talk really consider the Egyptians, the Mongols or even the Hannibal and his elephants). Well what have we come to after so much “white power”. Lets take stalk. Well we had 400 years of slavery and the extermination of between 60 to 100 million people of a certain non-white race in the process; the colonization and destruction of peoples and cultures  that happen to be “not white enough” all over the world (India, Far East, American natives, South American natives, Africa, the Caribbean, swabs of the middle east need I go on?); the  must inhuman and cruel extermination of 6 million of their own white people because they still were not white enough for them since they had origins in Israel which is in the middle east (forgetting that their precious Jesus is NOT white but a Middle Eastern/African man); the creation  and use of the single most destructive weapon in the history of mankind (nuclear bomb) something that could wipe out our entire human race; the ruination of our environment bringing us to the brink of disaster; and lately the destruction of the world’s financial system and the creation of an economic abyss that we will likely never fully climb out of! So why not let us chinese dominate for a while and see how we do? So I ask you white people, what are you so afraid of? You should be scared of your own people not us! Yellow power baby.

  • Liz C

    Romeogolf is the smartest white guy here his comments prove that “he gets it”. Now why are white Canadians so scared silly of sino power? China is currently the dominant world force and will just move to consolidate that power more and more over the coming decades so get use to it. Greace had its time, Rome had its time, Britannia once ruled the waves and everywhere else, then came the great hungry beast called America…hmm all Caucasians (we are talking about total world influence so lets not talk really consider the Egyptians, the Mongols or even the Hannibal and his elephants). Well what have we come to after so much “white power”. Lets take stalk. Well we had 400 years of slavery and the extermination of between 60 to 100 million people of a certain non-white race in the process; the colonization and destruction of peoples and cultures  that happen to be “not white enough” all over the world (India, Far East, American natives, South American natives, Africa, the Caribbean, swabs of the middle east need I go on?); the  must inhuman and cruel extermination of 6 million of their own white people because they still were not white enough for them since they had origins in Israel which is in the middle east (forgetting that their precious Jesus is NOT white but a Middle Eastern/African man); the creation  and use of the single most destructive weapon in the history of mankind (nuclear bomb) something that could wipe out our entire human race; the ruination of our environment bringing us to the brink of disaster; and lately the destruction of the world’s financial system and the creation of an economic abyss that we will likely never fully climb out of! So why not let us chinese dominate for a while and see how we do? So I ask you white people, what are you so afraid of? You should be scared of your own people not us! Yellow power baby.

  • Anonymous

    Claire, I agree with your point that once we move to Canada or earn immigration, we should adopt Canadian culture as much as possible (I am from South Asia). But at the same time I also want to practice my own culture from my country of origin. The point is to take every good aspects from all neighboring communities to make this a better country.

  • Anonymous

    lol UVIC. i didn’t even consider applying to that second rate school. 

  • Anonymous

    lol UVIC. i didn’t even consider applying to that second rate school. 

  • H2ovin

    ur trying to say that all asians are immigrants and all don’t pay taxes. “This is ridiculous, if they want to work hard, make money, pay their taxes, let them! ” just a FYI i’m an asian and i’m an american citizen and my parents pay all their taxes. and “Who are we to stop them for doing so? ”and “Are we afraid of immigrants adopting our values and working hard.” ..hmmmm.. i wonder whats with the affirmative action…if that doesn’t mean chicken idk what

  • guest

    Real Canadians are probably the Indigenous people of Canada that were here before the Europeans came over and essentially stripped the land from them (i.e Native tribes and such). Most people are too ignorant to realize this fact…sad but true

  • Mike

    Then they don’t deserve universities if you think that way, since universities were built by white people. Everyone keeps saying the indigenous are the real Canadians, but it was white people who built North America into advanced, first world countries. If they never came to North America, there would be no appeal in Canada (won’t exist) because it would still be harbored by indigenous and living in a relatively primitive age compared to the rest of the world. They couldn’t adapt to a changing world, so they got wiped out. It’s a fact of life, and it’s been this way since the beginning of time.

  • Ruian

    you are being ridiculous, Mike!! How could you make such a statement of ‘adaptation’ and ‘wiped out’ in knowing nothing about adaptation and fitness? Your argument is even equivalent to the Nazi’s claim about races.. I cannot believe more modern more civilized ‘first world’ people saying things like this!! 

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