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Aaron Wherry covers all the goings-on in and around Parliament Hill. Follow Aaron on Twitter: @aaronwherry

The Commons: What alien hordes may come

by Aaron Wherry on Monday, November 22, 2010 6:30pm - 110 Comments

The Scene. With the opposition persisting for another day to question the allocation of some $16-billion for new warplanes, it was Laurie Hawn, a former air force colonel himself, who rose to impress upon the House a most profound question—perhaps the single most daunting dilemma that faces this or any government.

Earlier in the day, the Finance Minister had invited himself in for coffee and cookies at the house of some nice suburban family to demonstrate that, from here on, his government was done spending taxpayer dollars recklessly (or words to that effect). That next year’s budget, unlike previous attempts, would be prudent and responsible.

At this, the opposition was easily puzzled. ”This government continues to spend billions of dollars on wasteful purchases for fake lakes, untendered stealth fighter jets and Republican-style prisons that Canadians are convinced we do not really need,” moaned Liberal Bryon Wilfert. “How is putting $16 billion, and counting, at risk for the purchase of untendered stealth fighter jets, using the minister’s own words: ‘practical, pragmatic and moderate?’ Is he serious?”

Here then came Mr. Hawn, moved to lay bare the existential crisis at the heart of good governance. “Mr. Speaker, what we are very serious about is giving the Canadian men and women who carry out the very difficult missions on behalf of the people of Canada and others the very best equipment to do the job tomorrow and for the next 20, 30 and 40 years,” he said. “We do not know what is coming in the next 20, 30 or 40 years and neither does the member opposite.”

Indeed. Here is what every government must confront in directing its citizens forward. We do not know what may come, we cannot know what may come, but we must prepare for it all the same. We must make our best guesses and act decisively, but ultimately we can only imagine. And so we must push ourselves to consider every possibility, prepare ourselves for every eventuality and dream impossible dreams of every potential doom.

To understand why we might need $16-billion-worth of new fighter jets then, think not simply of Russians or exploding printer cartridges, but cast your mind even further forward to the threats of the future—to the time of 2050 and perhaps the most dire possibility of all: the looming spectre of alien invasion.

Astronomers will argue that the real threat is asteroids, that what we must pursue is a way to blast space rocks out of our way, lest they make contact with Earth and extinguish all life on this planet. But what those ivory tower elitists miss is what Hollywood’s most responsible producers have been warning us about for decades: that ultimately, inevitably, we will have to confront an incursion from an extraterrestrial species that seeks our total destruction (or at least our subservience). That threat, as Mr. Hawn wisely hinted this afternoon, is what must guide our present action. And only on that basis must we ask questions about this government’s commitment to the joint strike fighter program.

For instance, how well would these new F-35s be expected to confront large alien spaceships? Based on Hollywood’s projections, most 20th century technology was powerless to repel alien hordes. Will our F-35s be equipped with lasers of some kind? Will they be able to penetrate alien forcefields? Will we have a sufficient number of aircraft to defend ourselves against anything as large and powerful as the ships the aliens used in Independence Day?

Indeed, given the potential depth and breadth of such a threat, can we really be content to spend only $16-billion? Or should we, in this era of prudent federal spending, look for more efficient, cost-effective solutions? Remember here that the space invaders in Independence Day were ultimately defeated by a combination of computer programming, strategically employed nuclear weapons and character actor Jeff Goldblum. By that logic it may be futile to engage in an arms race with the alien armies: that our money, energy and time would be better spent devising a way to build forcefields of our own around major cities and institutions so as to defend our primary targets in the first moments of an invasion.

Obviously some degree of coordination with NATO and the international community will be necessary, but selfishly we can take heart in the recent defection to our side of Randy Quaid, who, as loving-father Russell Casse in Independence Day, selflessly flew his fighter jet into an alien spaceship to bring about its destruction. There’s no telling what degree of insight and expertise he can thus provide.

Regardless what we have here, hopefully in time to sufficiently prepare ourselves, is a necessary call for foresight and perspective. By comparison, when Liberal deputy leader Ralph Goodale lamented a government that had recklessly wasted this country’s fiscal situation on pre-recession spending, international summitry, advertising and jails, all government House leader John Baird could muster was a claim to have also created jobs.

For sure, a job is a lovely thing to have. But whether or not one is presently employed will be altogether moot if we are all inevitably to be enslaved or annihilated by the alien hordes. Let us hope this government plans its next budget accordingly.

The Stats. Government spending, nine questions. Afghanistan, five questions. The military and the environment, four questions each. Aboriginal affairs, three questions. Infrastructure, energy, trade, food safety and Haiti, two questions each. Taxation, arts funding, air safety, the economy and children, one question each.

John Baird, eight answers. Ted Menzies, five answers. Laurie Hawn, four answers. John Duncan, three answers. Chuck Strahl, Denis Lebel, Dave Anderson, Dave MacKenzie, Peter Kent, Peter Van Loan, Gerry Ritz and Bev Oda, two answers each. Stockwell Day, Dean Del Mastro, Rob Merrifield and Ed Komarnicki, one answer each.

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  • danby

    Could we not just build a fence to keep the aliens out?

    • NiceGuy

      I, for one, am hoping that the aliens do come. Perhaps, over time, they can breed out the Canadian pinko, liberal, socialist, moron gene.

      • danby

        Pinko…. moron….
        I wonder. Is it the inbreeding that has made you such a NiceGuy?

  • madeyoulook

    Uh, yeah, this post was an unfortunate stretch that went beyond any desirable limit of responsible commentary. A responsible government MUST anticipate the future as best as possible. Rumsfeld got bales of ill-informed mockery for all his troubles in elucidating "known knowns, known unknowns, and unknown unknowns," but that is just the sort of best-guessing one would hope all the right smart people are doing.

    These F-35s may or may not end up being exactly what we need. Given how the world unfolds, they probably won't match our requirements perfectly. Nothing we can dream up today could possibly achieve that. But it is ludicrous and dangerous to suggest that we therefore require nothing.

    Get back in the saddle and try again today, Aaron.

    • Out There

      A responsible government MUST anticipate the future as best as possible.

      I would prefer my responsible government to anticipate the future by spending money on research and development, education, and climate change (including on green technologies, which appear to be the wave of the future). I think that this is a better use of funds than spending it on protecting against a hypothetical enemy invasion, whether it be from this planet or some other one.

      • madeyoulook

        The "other planet" business was only in the mind of Wherry, you realize…?

        • LdKitchenersOwn

          Still, the point is nonetheless valid that it's ludicrous to try to justify buying 65 F-35s based on any sort of hypothetical existential threat to the territorial integrity of Canada.

          As I said below, arguing that we need 65 F-35s to protect us from aliens actually makes MORE sense than arguing that we need them to protect us from the Russians. As the aliens are hypothetical, I can imagine a scenario where we could fight them off with 65 F-35s, because I have no idea what the hypothetical aliens' hypothetical combat capabilities are. Whereas, with the Russians, I know for a fact that just 10% of their Air Force could sweep aside 65 F-35s pretty easily.

          • Holly Stick
          • madeyoulook

            You do get that our 65 would not be alone up there, right, LKO?

          • LdKitchenersOwn

            Absolutely, but that's yet ANOTHER reason why justifying so few F-35s for the purposes of territorial defence is inane. We can't stop anyone who'd seriously attempt to invade us with only 65 Lightening IIs, and more to the point, no one would seriously try to invade us because they'd need to get through the swarms of American fighters to do so. The "territorial defence of Canada" argument for the F-35 is thus DOUBLY stupid. It's not just that we CAN'T stop the Russians with this force, it's also that we'll NEVER EVEN HAVE TO TRY!

          • madeyoulook

            Ah. We'll never even have to try. So you're comfortable with the notion of hiding under Uncle Sam's skirt (ooh, bad visual…) for free? Assume no responsibility whatsoever for our contribution to continental defence? We're going with that, now, even more explicitly than the almost-free ride just about every NATO partner not named USA has enjoyed for decades?

          • LdKitchenersOwn

            No, not at all, I just think that "contributing to continental defence" is an entirely different argument than "defending the territorial sovereignty of Canada", and it's the latter argument that the government is focused on.

            I'm not saying "buying 65 F-35s is stupid" (though it might be) I'm saying that justifying the decision to purchase 65 F-35s with references to Russian (near) incursions into Canadian territory if ludicrous. You're now arguing that we need to get F-35s to keep the Americans happy, and to demonstrate our capabilities for independence of action, and that's an entirely valid argument, but it's a DIFFERENT argument from the one being put forward vis a vis the Russians. If "contributing to continental defence" is the main argument for the F-35s that's bad, because it's a much WEAKER argument than many others. We could contribute just fine to continental defence with a whole host of planes other than the F-35. Some might argue that certain fighters are actually much BETTER suited for the defence of our territorial integrity than the F-35 is. The most convincing arguments in favour of procuring the F-35, imho, have almost nothing to do with protecting our sovereignty and it frustrates me when people focus on the weaker arguments and ignore the stronger ones.

          • madeyoulook

            Well, that's maybe where we'll get all nit-picky about the semantics of "defending Canadian sovereignty." So we probably agree more than we (used just moments ago to) think.

            I submit we "defend our sovereignty" when we join a UN-sponsored mission to drop bombs in the Balkans, or when we shove a ruthless bully back out of Kuwait. The military will tell you there is no such thing as home-field advantage in their line of work.

            But we also CERTAINLY defend our sovereignty when we choose willingly to join our neighbour, our best friend and our most important ally in the shared defence of our neighbourhood. So I just don't think you can separate your two "entirely different" arguments they way you try to.

  • LdKitchenersOwn

    You know, I have to say, I think 65 F-35s may actually make more sense as a mechanism for defending us from aliens than they do as a mechanism for defending us from the Russians. With the Russians, I KNOW that 65 F-35s could be swept aside by basically 10% of their air force. At least with the aliens, since I have no idea what their capabilities are, it's possible to imagine that we could actually stop them with 65 F-35s. But if we ever really get in to it with the Russians, that won't make them bat an eye.

    • NiceGuy

      Here I thought Russia was just a beaten down semi-failed nation state, filled with drunkards and criminals. Turns out they're more wiley than a cartoon coyote…or at least creatures capable of transporting themselves between galaxies.

      • LdKitchenersOwn

        Well, it's true that it's unlikely that the aliens are less combat capable than the Russians if they're capable of interstellar travel, but it's at least POSSIBLE that they are. My point is just that I view our ability to fight off an alien invasion with 65 F-35s as a theoretical possibility, whereas I'm pretty sure that fighting off an attempted RUSSIAN invasion with such a force would be a metaphysical impossibility.

        I have no idea what the aliens could throw at us, but I do know that the Russians could leave 90% of their fighters at home and still outnumber our F-35s at least 3 to 1, attacking us with about 55 MiG-29s supported by 40 Su-27s, 40 MiG-31s and another 30 or so assorted fighters. I don't know if we can beat the aliens with 65 F-35s, but I'm pretty sure we can't beat that.

  • Mandatory Jedi

    Wow…someone obviously failed their creative writing classes.

    I would stick with your typical style of posts, fear and loathing.

    This attempt at humor is about as funny as C-3P0 in a sandcrawler.

  • Holly Stick

    This was funny, until it occurred to me that the Harperites probably want the planes so they can take part in Armageddon. Look at Harper's good buddy Charles McVety and the type of beliefs Harper probably shares:

    "…Reverend John Hagee. He is a prominent Texas televangelist and author of Jerusalem Countdown, a book predicting that the world will soon end in Armageddon. Hagee was guest speaker at an Israel support rally that McVety organized at his college in Toronto. At about the same time McVety also appeared on television news to say that that the fighting in Lebanon created conditions that resembled end times as predicted in the Bible. (The belief in end times is common among Christian reconstructionists)…"
    http://dennisgruending.ca/pulpitandpolitics/2008/…

    Remember that Harper considered the civilians being killed in Lebanon as acceptable casualties.

  • ADSCO

    The fact is: shortage of resources causes conflict. We never know what kind of government China and Russia will have in the future. We know that we have a lot of resources. Resources that other countries will want. We have to protect our borders or we will loose them. Russia is already testing us.

    Global warming changes everything! The north will change dramatically. It will make the north more desireable that previously. Resources abound.

    The fighters will provide a deterrent. Should they have been subject to bids? Yes!

  • Holly Stick

    Our problem will be keeping the Americans away from our resources.

  • NiceGuy

    Why bother with super hornets? I am sure a few Lancaster bombers will do…

    Contact! Goggles, wind in your hair….those were the days, eh??

    • LdKitchenersOwn

      For some of the things the government would have you believe the F-35 can do even the F-35 isn't enough. The way the Tories talk on this file you'd think we were upgrading to some sort of small Klingon warships with cloaking devices.

      And if you think the Super Hornet is no better than an old Lancaster, you'd better let the Aussies and the U.S. Navy know. They're still buying dozens of them, and the Aussies just started taking shipments this year.

  • NiceGuy

    I am trying to follow your logic here….65 F-35's would be outnumbered 25-1? So what use would 120 Hornets be then? Why bother doing anything at all? We should just email our surrender papers tomorrow. Our Navy is horribly outnumbered too…and so is our army.

    Best just to give up.

  • gottabesaid

    Ha ha, Wherry, real funny. We'll see who's laughing when the only one standing up for Canada, and for humanity, against the aliens will be Stephen Harper. Will he have kick-ass F-35s? I hope so… because he's not going to be able to fend off the aliens with all the naiveté and good intentions of the weak-kneed, lilly-livered lefties.

  • Crit_Reasoning

    This one's an instant classic. A gonzo Independence Day segueway mocking a former air force colonel MP who said: “We do not know what is coming in the next 20, 30 or 40 years and neither does the member opposite.”

    Because we all know defence spending is inherently ridiculous, right?

  • John.K

    Defence spending is inherently ridiculous if no one has articulated just exactly what we are defending ourselves from, and how exactly that spending is going to create the required defence capability.

  • Livebloggin Junkie

    Because we all know defence spending is inherently ridiculous, right?

    Yes it is, but we live in a ridiculous world. It is so ridiculous that when it comes right down to it we are actually buying these not to defend against our enemies attacking us but from our friend helping us.

  • Holly Stick

    The problem is that if you buy a bunch of weapons, some idiots just can't resist the urge to use them somewhere. Look at all the idiotic wars the Americans get involved in.

  • NiceGuy

    Hi. You're a moron. However, I do appreciate your honesty. Most boring, left-wing boobs in this country pay lip service to the idea of national defence…all that 'support the troops' hullabub (even though everyone knows they don't mean it). You sir, are at least intellectually honest in your stupidity.

    PS you're a moron.

  • NiceGuy

    And yet you're quite happy to live under the umbrella of the defence those American weapons provide.

    Enjoy your freedom today, somebody else paid for it.

  • LdKitchenersOwn

    So, you think that DND has no obligation whatsoever to taxpayers to explain what our defence priorities are, and how our defence spending will help us to achieve those priorities??? We should just close our eyes, hand over any amount of money requested, for any purpose, and trust the troops?

    If it's too much to ask for an assessment of our priorities, and an analysis of how a piece of equipment meets the requirements of those priorities, why do we even bother asking what they're buying at all? Why wasn't the announcement simply "We're spending $16 billion on some equipment that will help us do stuff"?

  • Holly Stick

    How is my freedom enhanced by the Americans bombing weddings in Iraq? I never wanted the fools to start that war.

  • NiceGuy

    For 150 years Canadians have not been able to agree on things as basic as an elected senate or a constitution. And you want to sit around the table and debate defence 'priorities'? The Navy is still sailing 40+ oil tankers that predate Trudeau as PM. That's what happens (or doesn't happen) when Canadians debate things. Wake me when it's over, and the 40 million dollar Royal Commission is published.

  • LdKitchenersOwn

    Has it never occurred to you that the reason the military is underfunded is the horrible job they (and the government) do in making arguments in favour of their needs? You seem to be suggesting that the reason the military is under-equipped is because we spend too much time talking about their equipment needs. I'[d suggest they're under-equipped because we spend almost no time whatsoever seriously talking about their equipment needs.

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