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By-election brouhaha

by Aaron Wherry on Monday, November 29, 2010 9:02pm - 118 Comments

You are looking live… at your computer, where, if you so desire, by-election results for Vaughan, Winnipeg-North and Dauphin-Swan River-Marquette will be posted gradually after polls close at 9:30pm EST.

Elections Canada results will appear here. Wikipedia profiles for the respective ridings are available here, here and here. 308′s election day projections have the Tories taking Vaughan, the NDP holding Winnipeg and the Tories holding Dauphin. Vaughan will be your narrative-defining contest of the evening.

For however long as seems necessary, I’ll be here with updates, tangents and the like. Feel free to leave questions in the comments below and I’ll try to offer snappy or thoughtful responses as time warrants.

9:06pm. For whatever it’s worth, Michael Ignatieff has already scheduled an availability with reporters on the Hill tomorrow morning. Whatever happens tonight it will most likely be heralded as demonstrating some kind of weakness in his leadership.

9:10pm. If you’re looking for metrics to put tonight’s results in perspective, here’s one possibility. Totaling the 2008 election results in these three ridings, you get the following.

Conservative 39.0%
Liberal 31.4%
NDP 22.6%
Green 6.3%
Other 0.6%

9:15pm. Equally for the sake of perspective: recent history doesn’t demonstrate any obvious advantage for government or opposition parties in by-elections.

9:30pm. Polls have now closed. While you await the first returns, Pundits Guide has prepared perhaps the deepest setup you’ll read.

9:44pm. Your first results of the night put Conservative Robert Sopuck far ahead in Dauphin. Mr. Sopuck, a biologist, conservationist, farmer and writer, still maintains a personal website including an archive of his past writings. Best to read it now before the party mandates he disavow all evidence of his previous existence.

9:51pm. First poll in Vaughan went to Mr. Fantino, second poll went to Mr. Genco. A mere 282 polling stations left to report. Small NDP lead, meanwhile, in Winnipeg-North.

10:04pm. Mr. Fantino seems to be pulling away in Vaughan, Kevin Chief maintains a small lead in Winnipeg.

10:16pm. With Vaughan looking comfortably Conservative, the focus is now on Winnipeg, where the NDP lead is down to 56 votes. The third and fourth-party votes are down drastically in those ridings, voters apparently deciding it was a two-man race in each.

10:22pm. For whatever it’s worth, the Greens got 6.9%, 4.8% and 6.5% in Vaughan, Winnipeg and Dauphin respectively in 2008. At this point they sit at 1.3%, 0.8% and 6.3%.

10:25pm. The Liberal pulls into the lead in Winnipeg-North with 80 of 153 polls reporting.

10:27pm. Back to the NDP with 85 polls reporting.

10:33pm. Back to the Liberals with 105 polls reporting.

10:36pm. The Vaughan results so far, with movement from 2008 in brackets.

Conservative 50.4 (+16.1)
Liberal 45.1 (-4.0)
NDP 1.9 (-7.7)
Green 1.4 (-5.5)

10:40pm. The Dauphin results so far, with movement from 2008 in brackets.

Conservative 58.5 (-2.9)
NDP 23.9 (+7.3)
Liberal 10.3 (-3.7)
Green 5.9 (-0.6)

10:48pm. Through 119 polls, Liberal Kevin Lamoureux’s lead in Winnipeg-North is 4.3 percentage points.

11:00pm. If Mr. Lamoureux, a former MLA in Winnipeg, holds—2.1 point lead through 120 polls—and Mr. Fantino holds in Vaughan, the winner of the night might be “name recognition.”

11:08pm. The Winnipeg Free Press has called the race for Mr. Lamoureux.

11:16pm. Mr. Lamoureux’s lead does seem to have stabilized over the last 15 polls. This would be the first win for the Liberals in Winnipeg-North since 1993. Meanwhile, Mr. Fantino’s lead in Vaughan is suddenly down to 400 votes.

11:30pm. If current leads hold, Facebook will have gone 0 for 3 this evening.

11:48pm. As we near midnight here in Ottawa, Kevin Chief has reportedly conceded in Winnipeg-North. Tony Genco has not conceded in Vaughan, where the margin is just over 400 votes with 29 polls left to report.

12:01am. The results in Winnipeg-North so far, with movement from 2008 in brackets.

Liberal 46.0 (+36.8)
NDP 41.7 (-20.9)
Conservative 10.3 (-12.1)
Green 0.7 (-4.1)

12:13am. The Conservative lead in Vaughan seems now to have solidified. Either way, cheers to the “Liberal insiders” who foretold a Fantino landslide. You were either fantastically wrong in predicting the result or wildly successful in diminishing expectations. Indeed, somewhat relatedly, the big loser tonight would seem to be speculative media narratives.

12:30am. The Sun’s David Akin has a preview of what Jack Layton’s going to face in his scrum tomorrow.

Just two days ago, NDP executive director Brad Lavigne was telling reporters that the trio of byelections Monday could be seen as referendums on each party’s leader. ”If a leader loses momentum [Monday], they’ll have a hard time gaining it back before the budget gets tabled in February,” Lavigne told reporters.

12:33am. An official statement from Michael Ignatieff.

With tonight’s by-election results still underway, these by-elections show the clearest sign yet that in the battle to defeat the Harper Conservatives, there is only one alternative party that can deliver change – the Liberal Party of Canada.

I want to congratulate Kevin Lamoureux and his team for a tremendous victory tonight, more than quadrupling the Liberal vote in the riding. By choosing Kevin Lamoureux, the people of Winnipeg North have sent a strong message that the Liberal Party is the only alternative that can replace the Harper government and deliver real, progressive change for Canadians.

In Vaughan, I want to commend Tony Genco for putting up a formidable fight and turning a coronation into a tight race between Liberals and Conservatives that is still too close to call. Tony and his team proved that a campaign that respects local democracy and puts the voters of Vaughan first can go head to head with Stephen Harper’s politics of cynicism.

I am also extremely grateful to Christopher Scott Sarna for carrying the Liberal banner in Dauphin—Swan River—Marquette.

On behalf of the Liberal Party of Canada and our parliamentary caucus, congratulations to each of our candidates, their families and all the volunteers who lent a helping hand during these by-elections.

12:43am. Eric Grenier of 308 humbly tallies the disparity between projections and results in Vaughan, Winnipeg and Dauphin and comes to the unavoidable conclusion.

That shows the perils of projecting a by-election.

1:00am. The Globe, Star and Post have their reviews. John Ibbitson heralds “Michael Ignatieff’s troubled leadership.”

1:07am. The crowd in Vaughan is apparently still waiting to hear from future public safety minister Julian Fantino—perhaps he’s been taken directly to Rideau Hall for the cabinet shuffle—and CPAC has now cut to a replay of this afternoon’s Question Period, but all three of tonight’s contests are effectively decided. With all polls now reporting, here are the ridings results with movement from 2008.

Vaughan
Conservative 49.1 (+14.8)
Liberal 46.6 (-2.5)
NDP 1.7 (-7.9)
Green 1.2 (-5.7)

Winnipeg-North
Liberal 46.3 (+37.1)
NDP 41.2 (-25.4)
Conservative 10.4 (-12.0)
Green 0.7 (-4.1)

Dauphin
Conservative 56.7 (-4.4)
NDP 26.3 (+9.7)
Liberal 10.3 (-3.7)
Green 5.6 (-0.9)

And if you total those results you get the following, with movement from 2008 in brackets.

Conservative 41.9 (+2.9)
Liberal 39.0 (+7.6)
NDP 15.8 (-6.8)
Green 2.0 (-4.3)
Other 1.3 (+0.7)

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  • Stephen

    Fantino by 463 with 89.8%

  • Stephen

    Fantino by 585 with 93.3%
    Get your concession speech ready Genco!

    • Gayle

      Are you actually excited about that?

      • Stephen

        Absolutely, we need another tough on crime MP to tackle Canada's crime problem. Instead of giving murderers $ and chances for early parole, we should concentrate on protecting our law abiding citizens!

        • Gayle

          Sure

          I am quite certain that the addition of this one single MP will completely turn the tables on crime in this country.

          Ha ha ha

        • Gayle

          In any event, despite their attempts at spin tomorrow I am also quite certain the CPC are not as happy about this narrow victory as you are. I am sure they did not think it would be this close. They had a star candidate with huge name recognition and he barely squeaked through.

          • Stephen

            This was a nice victory for the Conservatives in a consistently Liberal Riding. It showed that they can be competitive in the Greater Toronto area. Harper has a good shot next year at an outright majority.

          • Stephen

            I also don't consider an approx. 1,000 vote victory (2.5%) a squeaker.

          • Gayle

            It was a squeaker of a win with a candidate that had all kinds of media exposure both before and during the election.

            Personally I hope Harper agrees with you and pushes for an election, but since he is probably aware that this riding was too close for comfort I somehow doubt he will do that.

        • John D

          Do you listen to yourself?

  • hosertohoosier

    I think it is clear who the winners of tonight's races are. They can be summed up with two words, which shouldn't be surprising because those two words are their name: pirate party. While the Liberals can boast an impressive increase in their support, Pirate Support increased by infinite percent. The pirate party vaulted out of nowhere to pass the well-established Communist and Christian Heritage parties – almost beating the Greens. Heck they even got a higher percent of the vote than an Elvis-impersonating preacher.

    Moreover, Winnipeg North is not the kind of riding we would expect to go pirate. Manitoba is far from the oceans. If the Pirate Party can put up these kinds of numbers here, just imagine how they could do in parts of the country with actual pirates. I could see numbers like 2.3% in a solid pirate riding like Humber-St. Barbe-Baie Vert.

    What these numbers tonight tell me is that Jeff Coleman played a smart game of brokerage, in order to enlarge the pirate base. On key issues like rape and pillage, he was able to appeal to Winnipeg's Viking community. Some may ask whether the pirate phenomena is here to stay at the forefront of the fringes. With Paul Hellyer no longer heading the Canadian action party, with the Marijuana party way down from their 2000 results, and with the perennial Communist-Marxist-Leninist vote split, the answer is clear. They Arrrrrr.

    • Jan

      Thank you for showing Stephen how it's done He could use a few pointers.

      • MostlyCivil

        Geez, even I beat the Elvis-impersonating preacher once. Seriously.

    • Crit_Reasoning

      Manitoba is far from the oceans.

      Don't forget Manitoba has a deep-water seaport that provides direct access to the sea, and thence to the North Atlantic Ocean and its bountiful shipping lanes.

      Clearly, Winnipeg North is just a practice run for the Pirate Party's real target: Churchill.

      • McC_

        Churchill — with 13-15 weeks of safe, ice-free sailing every year!

  • Stephen

    Congratulations to Fantino on his approx. 1,000 vote victory (2.5%) tonight-hardly a squeaker Gayle. Goodnight all!

    • MostlyCivil

      Actually, the Tories should be a little worried that even with their star candidate, there was only a %32 turnout. That's pretty crappy for all the heavy hitters from both sides who came out to play in that riding.

      If they want to do damage in the GTA, they're going to have to get out that immigrant vote, many of whom have never voted before. Still haven't, most of them…

  • West Newf

    No, the Liberals are still the biggest losers!

    • Rob@Edmonton

      The Liberals won in Winnipeg North, Wet Newt.

  • West Newf

    A good time was had by all. Good night from BC!

  • Rob@Edmonton

    Fantino wouldn't have lost either way. His alternative plan was a New Conservative Senate seat.

  • Rob@Edmonton

    He drew pictures.

  • Mike T.

    Well, I certainly wouldn't have thought the big story of the night would be a surprise Liberal win on the prairies….

  • chet

    The Liberals' continued lurch leftward is evident tonight.

    Winnipeg North is about as close as one can get to a socialist area of the country. That voters there were comfortable voting in Liberals, and voters in more centrist/slightly left leaning Vaughen were comfortable voting in a conservative, spells disaster for the upcoming general.

    The Liberals have clearly ceded the middle of the bell curve.

    That Iggy is celebrating a net gain of zero seats, and a loss in the heart of what was once Liberal country speaks volumes.

  • frobisher

    That Liberal/NDP Coalition really came together in Winnipeg North. Boy, who knows what would've happened if they didn't?

  • DBM

    I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist here…

    But I think there's a slight possibility that Ibbitson's article was written before the election actually happened.

    Crazy…I know.

  • WestNewf

    I cannot believe that over at the Mop and Pail they are trying to spin this as a Liberal victory. Pure political blindness! You just keep telling your self that Liberals. As long as this is what a win looks like for you Cons will be happy to concede such a win.

    • Out There

      Are you reading a different Globe and Mail than the one I'm reading? John Ibbitson, in his analysis this morning, said the following:

      Julian Fantino’s snatching of the Greater Toronto riding of Vaughan in Monday’s federal by-election will further cloud Michael Ignatieff’s troubled leadership and offer a glimpse of a possible Conservative majority government after the next election.

      Now, I believe that Ibbitson is hoping for a Conservative majority and is indulging in wishful thinking here, but this sure doesn't look like pro-Liberal spin to me.

      • Jenn_

        No kidding! My Globe and Mail email came this morning with the subject line: "Vaughan by-election loss adds to Ignatieff's woes." Fortunately, I followed the results last night and knew it wasn't a complete disaster for the Liberals. But I wonder how many of those that don't pay attention came away from their email list with the impression that it was all bad Liberal news. A lot of people read only headlines (including me sometimes).

        But accusing them of being left-leaning for running such a right-leaning headline is a bit rich.

    • DBM

      If this is being termed a Liberal victory, you can blame the Conservatives.

      They certainly didn't contradict or mute the expectations being raised yesterday – the 'worse than outremont' meme, the 10,000 vote victory meme.

      Having been perfectly happy to raise expectations, they've failed to meet them.

      Meanwhile, the decision in Vaughan looks a lot more like Fantino eking out a win based on his personal star-power and appeal in certain parts of the community than a referendum on Ignatieff or endorsement of Harper. And the Liberals steal one nobody was expecting in Winnipeg (despite Harper's personal presence in the riding at one point and much talked about choice of candidate, CPC was basically a non factor).

  • WDM

    Nothing quite captures the rapt attention of Canadians….well the 30% or so in each riding and those with nothing better to do on a Monday night than by-election coverage. These monumental moments in political history have been passed down through generations. So, dear commentators, I am here to tell you the national and tectonic shifting implications that can be derived from last night.

    There are absolutely none.

    There wasn't a leadership referendum on anyone. There wasn't a rebuke of Conservative crime policy. There wasn't a tuning out of Jack Layton, or any indictment of Michael Ignatieff.

    There were three by-elections that can be analyzed quickly, and easily.

    In two of the ridings, the winning side found a star candidate which is a exponential advantage in by-elections where few turn out to vote. The other was a Conservative gimme, where no one was able to recruit a star candidate like the other ridings to make it interesting.

    I understand the talking heads will be out declaring victory for their sides, however painful it is to watch. Hopefully the media calls them on the inordinate amount of BS that will waft through the air today.

    • YYZ

      THANK YOU!

  • McC_

    D'Yawn is kinda clever actually, but I'm surprisded that someone would find a man who would destroy country with his socialist-carbon-tax-of-separatists-coalition thing to be snooze inducing

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