Straight outta Winnipeg

Just as rap thrived amidst the racial strife and decrepitude of L.A., native rappers have found a muse in another troubled city

by Martin Patriquin on Friday, December 3, 2010 2:40pm - 115 Comments
Straight outta Winnipeg

Brooklyn, Jon-C and Charlie Fettah (left to right) of Winnipeg’s Most | Photograph Marianne Helm

The West End Cultural Centre’s home is a former church located in the not-quite-gentrified Spence neighbourhood near downtown Winnipeg. The band posters lining the wall confirm the pedigree of the venue: everyone from Montreal’s Planet Smashers to Loudon Wainwright has played here. But the music of Winnipeg’s Most, a three-man native rap crew, is beyond even those eclectic boundaries.

On a recent Wednesday night, Charlie Fettah stomped around the stage, spitting tales of drugs, money and the dangerous allure of both into the microphone held tight against his lips. “The game got a funny way of pulling me back / Try to stay on the right side by making these tracks / Get away from the bad life, pushing it back / But I’m addicted to the fast life, I gotta get stacked.” Fettah and band members Jon-C and Brooklyn sported standard-issue rap gear: gold chains, tattoos, baseball caps turned sideways, oversized pants and T-shirts.

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The crowd of about 200 was almost entirely native—young kids, women pushing strollers, entire families and, in particular, teenage girls in crop tops and too much makeup. They bumped to the thick, droning beats and crowded the stage, mouthing the lyrics and shrieking whenever these included the “Northside,” the poor neighbourhood in the city’s north end mythologized on the band’s first album, Northside Connection.

All rap artists worth their gold have a crew, and as the lights went up, Winnipeg’s Most went to work, frisbeeing copies of their CD into the crowd. Their mike cords tangled, the band signed baseball hats, T-shirts and just about anything else thrust at them. This was tame by comparison; at a show not long before, they’d signed chests and foreheads. Someone ripped Fettah’s shirt right off his back.

There is a great, thumping noise emanating out of Winnipeg these days, propelled by a crop of artists bent on telling tales of their rough, windswept city. The city famous for the “Winnipeg Sound” of Neil Young, the Guess Who and a more recent crop of well-regarded indie rock bands is becoming better known for its beats and rhymes than its drums and guitars. There’s another twist: almost all these artists are native.

Winnipeg’s Most, which recently brought home Best Group and Best CD honours from the Aboriginal People’s Choice Music Awards, has a rabidly devoted fan base. A YouTube video of the band performing its first single has been viewed nearly 440,000 times since last December. Streetz FM, the city’s all-hip-hop station, began broadcasting at about the same time; it has Winnipeg’s Most on heavy rotation, along with native rappers Drezus, Manik and Young Kidd, among others.

Not all of the city’s rappers are native. There’s the Lytics, a four-man brothers-and-a-cousin group whose self-titled EP is a breezy, hook-heavy delight–De La Soul’s Three Feet High And Rising for the parka set. And there are the souled-out breakbeats of Magnum K.I., plus the grouchy nihilism of Pip Skid.

But natives garner the most attention. Rap—specifically, gangster rap—looms large in the city’s native community, which represents about 10 per cent of Winnipeg’s population. Just as rap thrived amidst the racial strife and decrepitude of Los Angeles, Aboriginal rappers have found a muse in Winnipeg, a city with a homicide rate 143 per cent above the national average.

“People feel like there’s something against them all the time, that there’s racism, that the police treat us differently,” says Lorenzo (Leonard Sumner), a hulking rapper originally from the Little Saskatchewan reserve north of the city. “It’s almost like [L.A. gangster rap pioneers] NWA in the early ’90s. That’s Winnipeg now, and instead of black people it’s native people.”

Native rap isn’t new: War Party, the genre’s pioneers, formed in the mid-nineties. What has made it increasingly popular and marketable is the quality of the acts now coming out of the community, as well as the burgeoning promotional muscle to bring bigger shows to the city: promoter Cass Elliott recently arrived from Vancouver, and has since brought in the likes of Pharoahe Monch and the Beatnuts.

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  • proudabowomanams

    it's music that's that. They're speaking nothing but the truth, truth hurts, they're rapping about what they've been through, they're trying to overcome the stereo types but all you ppl are doing is labeling them as gangster thug drug dealers you dont have to twist this into something so complicated. This is all very simple, they love music, they're making music, their fans love their music, that's that and so what if this article is an aboriginal issue, what's wrong with that, why do white people feel to need to always be involved, just for once abos are in the center of attention, and no wyou have a big problem with it because someones noticeng the talents in our aboriginal people, and their are tons of articles about white people doing their soca music and whatever else genres there are. For the first time they're actually spotlighting aboriginal artists and every racist PHuck out there has a problem with it like really get a life im pretty sure you have more serious things to worry about instead of "omg no theyre showing people that the aboriginal people are actually civil talented warm hearted people just trying to do what they love quit blowing this WAY OUT OF PROPORTION

    • Mike girden

      hey im white and love all people :( especially everyone one in the industry in winnipeg! DONT HATE THE PEOPLE HATE THE PERSON! BUT I TOTALLY AGREE WITH WHAT YOUR SAYING! i hate haters!

      • proudabowomanams

        sry it was meant for everyone, just that person who had a problem with the fact that its an aboriginal article, and anyone else who had the same problem. Glad to know that there are actually good people out there like you :)

      • proudabowomanams

        sorry it wasnt meant for everyone just that one person in particular who had a problem with the fact that its abo issue sry! Your a nice person its to great to know that there are wholesome people out there!

        • ihor

          "Abo"? Say that in Australia!

          • proudabowomanams

            short for aboriginal , helloooo

  • proud to be Native!

    Wow, I would never let my kids listen to these guys, all they do is talk about Drinking and smoking weed and how bad they are….That Not Native or Indian…These guys are not role modals… the real role modals are Chief Dan George, Crazy Horse, A.I.M. and the list go's on….

    • lori

      NAME TEN ENW SONGS WE TALK BOUT SMOKIN WEED SHOOTING DOING ANYTHING BUT TALKING BOUT CHANGE OR A TORY WEVE BEEN THREW NAME EM BUDDIE YOUR PSATHEDIC CHEIF BLE BLE BLE WHO GETS MORE MONEWY THEN A WHITE GOVENER OR PPOLITION FUKING BEAT IT FOR DOING WHAT SPENDING THE INDIANS MONEY ON HIS OWN BUISNESS SOME HERO YOU GOT BUDDIE

    • Sagkeeng Princess

      THOSE GUYS ARE ALL DEAD, THESE GUYS ARE ALL LIVING. ITS TIME TO MAKE NEW ROLE MODELS. AND AT LEAST THEY'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO DO SOMETHING FOR OUR NATIVE PEOPLE AND MAKE US LOOK GOOD. WHAT DOES ANY OTHER NATIVE PERSON DO?? ITS TIME TO STAND UP AND DIP OUR HANDS IN THE COOKIE JARS OF LIFE, IN ANYTHING! IT JUST SO HAPPENS THESE GUYS ARE DOING IT IN RAP, MAKING NATIVE PEOPLE PROUD. I KNOW SOME PEOPLE WHO DO IT IN CFS, FILM, CONSTRUCTION, ART, DANCE/ WE NEED TO STAND UP AS NATIVE PEOPLE AND START MAKING GOOD NAMES FOR OURSELVES IN ANYTHING WE DO. AND WE NEED TO SUPPORT EACH OTHER NOT BRING EACH OTHER DOWN!!!!! – RESPECT -

    • WikweemRep'10

      yess,, i agree, but many youth today are listening to these guys, especially native youth… how many 13,14,15,16,17,18 yr olds in these days, are gunna turn on the radio to listen to chief dan george or ask people about crazy horse, not alot,, plenty WILL turn on their stereos to listen to winnipeg's most…. they are role models, their not trying to "glorify" themselves with their music by tellin about smokin dope n all of that,, they are simply tellin stories and experiences that they've had, because thats what rap is.

  • lori

    As the mother of BROOKLYN in Winnipegs Most ,it just amazes me to read some of these comments.Let me educate some of you on a few things They have worked very hard to have gotten to where they are today. They have all been through hard times and now because of thier music have found a way to express their struggles and hopes and has impacted many who relate to everyday hardship that they themselfs are going through. Isn't that what music is about an expression of art, change ,life etc? They aren't getting over a million hits on you-tube and winning 3 awards , having their pictures taken everywhere, doing articles and showing up im many well known magazines for nothing. Is it me or is the majority of us see what some can't. If you don't like rap / hip hop and don't listen to it , but don't judge either.Ive told my son there will be negitive but never let that stop him . As his mother i'm very proud of his group we are family and i say keep going guys do what you do for yourself and for our youth. You are making a change cause people wouldn't be talking so much about you if you weren't! STAND TALL AND BE PROUD !!! your families and friends and especially your fans are!

    • Sagkeeng Princess

      WELL SAID!!!

    • Jackie

      I so agree with you Lori, but we are family and we know exactly who these guys are and what they've been through, what they're doing now and we witness first hand what that hard work looks like for them. In other words we KNOW them and love them and really at the end of the day thats all that really matters. All the positive people including all the great fans out there are listening to their stories and are identifying or at least appreciating the story telling.

      Keep writing and telling those stories guys and you will always have lots of people who will want to hear them <3

    • shayne forrest

      maybe if you were a better mother your ruthless son wouldnt show up to high school parties beat up little girls and kids

      • unreal

        lol wow u musta have been bullied all your life… lol

    • unknown

      maybe you shoulda raised your son right and he wouldnt be going to high school parties beating up little girls

      • Mike girden

        if any one deserves a beating it is you haters!

        • natehate

          lmao ok mike if anything all these thug wannabes need to be lined up and gunned down publicly i would love to see more than half the north end exterminated

          • unreal

            Ok, any white race man sitting in st.vital (Winnipeg suburnbs) should not speak as you do… its racism that keeps the hostility and tension in our wiinipeg streets

          • Robin

            To think they are being judged by an idiot like your self well that in itself does not deserve this comment from me…One of those so called thug's you speak about —– well that is your opion which counts for nothing let alone deserves my feedback is my Son and I am so very very proud of him. I hope they keep it up and I know they will and that hater is going to be a big slap in the face to you…….UMMMMMMMMM last time I checked we lived in Winnipeg not in some other country like China who dictates to their people how to live and if they don't live the way they want them to live they either may be shot or in prison for many many year's so if that is how you think there is alway's a flight out of Winnipeg to one of those country's who would be happy to take you………..

          • Robin

            O wow I can not believe I just read this which sent shiver's up my spine and actually made my heart hurt to think that there is someone out there with your mentalitly that would shoot someone because they have different view's and way's of expressing themselves……….to think my child would be in harms way by someone like your self…….you talk that they are thugs………….well they may have done a few thing's wrong but they have straightened themselfs out.

  • Sagkeeng Princess

    RACIST PR!CK

  • Sagkeeng Princess

    DESPITE WHAT ANY BAD COMMENT SAYS ABOUT YOU ON HERE, ALL OF YOU NATIVE RAPPERS MAKE US PROUD!
    KEEP DOING YOUR THING, YOU'RE NOT DOING IT FOR THE HATERS. WE WILL RISE UP AND SHINE, WHO CARES WHAT ANYONE SAYS!!! – WINNIPEG STAND UP!!!!! – XOXOXO -

  • trifleling

    life on paper is so amusing….soo entertaining even…as goes for any music that should be rated..i don't believe for 1 minute this is healthy music for any of them…albeit, i personally like the tunes…but i'm an adult…these kids don't know when ta change their underwear for craps sake never mind try ta understand the underlying reasons behind a particular song…the kids are listening cuz the parents are listening..gear them up with some bandana's some sign language and their set…yep they the adults these days…Winnipeg's Most keep on bangin..jus not to the kiddies..

  • underground status

    Just thought I'd take the initiative to represent for some of the more slept on crews in Winnipeg doing big things!!!

    SWIGFU — "IF IT'S ALRIGHT YA'LL" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtjknkJzZhI

    FILTHY ANIMALS — "THE PLOT" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOoaMkvHP_A

    LEN BOWEN — "BIG DREAMER" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_AiDpzCJGA

    NESTOR WYNRUSH — "HIGH PARK SUNRISE" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ0TC0Pr8QI&sn….

    FILTHY ANIMALS — "BIZNESS AS USUAL" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJl5IjWOiD4

    JOHN SMITH — "KINSHIP OF THE DOWN AND OUT" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jeIRnlOdxM

    KENNY BANG EM feat. GRIZZ — "NO FIRE" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn4Ayk9SZoE

    • Mike girden

      JOHN SMITH NIGHT AT REPUBLIC ….. ALS O FRIDAY WITH MY HOMEBOY MCENROE !!! P N C !!!!!

  • uhor

    I would love to hear some in Cree!

  • tit4tat

    and you throw back some homophobic comment… come on now

  • David

    My favourite is the woman who called the "old guard of rappers "has beens" or washed up and old and have been living with their mom's and unsuccessful; then spins around and screams how everyone is a hater. wow. there aren't many sensible comments being posted, just alot of vitriol and poor spelling and grammar. What a shameful display. I'm guessing that if anyone were to attempt to have a rational face to face dialogue with the people who are typing with caps on and professing how proud they are, it would end in fisticuffs. I guess that's the hip hop way!!

  • brokelyn

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCLSSZygZcM&pl…

    heatbag records – war

    i dont even need to say anything! watch the video yyoul really know what kinda bums were dealing with

    • fedupwinnipeg

      Wonderful role models for todays youth. Haha, wow.

    • fedupwinnipeg

      and people are taking their kids in strollers to these shows? time to call CFS.

    • Jackie

      You should see the music of this person constantly slandering him.

    • Neechi

      so people what have you done for Aboriginal people in Winnipeg lately. It's like voting, if you didn't take the time to vote, you have no right to comment. Maybe if more non white people listen to what Aboriginal people need and want ofmr them our world could get better. ……maybe you should walk a mile in a persons moccasins before you assume you all know how hard it is to succeed as an Aboriginal person. Not that they are off the hook, but it is way harder than people think……how many Aboriginal friends do you judge's have………its time you stop being so ignorant.

  • trifleling

    we lost the game when they lowered the standards on everything..music politics policing u name it its been affected…Sorry but thats what happens when C average graduates are runnin (or tryin)our lives…Lower the standards a lil more and lets see what bunch of degenerates we can produce for the next generation…this has nuthin ta do with winnipegs most…jus we get what we ask for…or allow.And it certainly didn't jus happen(gangsta) cuz these boys are being recognized no matter what race they are..it happens cuz we let it as a society..these boys are spitters spitting what went on around them,even involved in..but remember,they are storys and we all embelish a lil on our storys,but the main jist of it is what keeps it real… it isn't always what the outside looks like,sometimes u gotta open the book and read it for what it is.Being proud of them cuz some are native is only 1 view of it.I'm proud that they come from the PEG and North-End….and to know their true side…remember a flower buds first before it shows its true beauty…jus don't get stuck on the bud part…or the world of print.

  • http://www.facebook.com/hellnback hellnback

    this is a great to[pis ….but to most of us in the struggle and making moves …..it's more than music it's life in general as we see it…..i like the fact that this interview made all these different comments…a great artist told me once if yo have too many YES MEN or YERS FANs agreeing with everytyhing thing you do your not doing your job as an artist…to prevoke such feeling and such hate mean your causing change in that person's mind state…

    i applaude all who are in this interview…

    this is PURE HIP-HOP in it's truest form.

    http://www.facebook.com/hellnback
    http://www.myspace.cpom/hellnbackmusic
    http://www.twitter.com/gunktah

  • shelley

    I don’t understand why this writer can sound so knowledable by knowing about WPG MOST in WPGS Hip Hop scene, but yet he can’t include commen sense such as poverty, aboriginal issues, and the obvuious life that comes from that !!!!! And on the flipside how WPG MOST are role modelling that the youth can actually do something if they try ! They support us, because they are real and live our reality and we support them. They bring the community together and reduce gang involvment because everyone is showing up for the same reason WPG MOST, not no gangsta gathering !

  • ez780

    What does heatbag mean in Winnipeg? In Edmonton it doesn't mean anything good at all, don't know why you'd name your label that……

    heatbag means you're so not on top of your game and sketchy looking that everyone immediately notices you in public, including cops. For instance, if you're all high on drugs in the mall, or if you're dirty and cracked-out looking in the street. Heatbags are people you want to avoid.

  • andy menzies

    yes big tough guys real role models these guys are isnt it true that brooklyn broke his own moms hand or finger cause she wouldnt give him his gun lmao wow real tough iconic role model for our youth

  • Mark

    Heatbag Records? "A heat bag is street slang for someone who scores himself out and gets caught by the police." Very positive.

  • angel

    yeah well it's a rapping about fantasys tale. like a book/ it's music like come on. it's the best i heard yet native rappers is all i listen to like gov't ppl should grow up 4 reals i don't see them trying to change the country 4 better only changes for people overseas and different countries. like they keeping the native out of trouble having shows to go to something that we actually like,also enjoy there are so many friends who are white pardon my spelling and they are friends with natives/aboriginals like don't forget we are all treaty people like it says in the ad in the commercials.

  • PHONY

    sure they telling a story, a story they live with everyday. Come on! EVERYONE knows these guys are telling their story like its a past situation. They STILL slang drugs, degrade women, promote violence etc. Sure they done some good shows for good things. But that makes them all hypocrites, straight up hypocrites. One second they help raise money for something but they are also the source for their own problems. Its sad macleans even put them in the magazine! I hope they all get caught and go to jail where they belong with the rest of their "bros". They can pretend all they want but everyone knows they are all STILL scum drug dealers!

    • Jackie

      Unless you've grown up beside one of them then and ONLY then can you have an opinion on their moral character. Haters in that city are terrible.

  • brooks a rat

    Im gonna break it down for you like this your guys words as gangster brooklyns a rat and if he ever makes it to main line in the remand hes done an i agree dont go to high school parties beating up young kids and girls your a punk not a gangster nor a thug

  • lysen

    lysen be bizan gone lizan for trizan, friken freeken frizen of small sizen, tight and rizen early alright.

  • UNINATIVE

    I went to their opener for Onyx (true Hip Hop)..I watched Heatbag come on stage with gang colors flashing rags like it was cool…Im very disappointed in the Winnipeg scene…When there are MCees like John SMith and the Peanuts and Corn crew that should represent us…..It is going to become evdent when these guys turn 30 y/o that their music will fade like their standards (kickinglil girls)….pce out hope Winnipeg's Most gets phased out by actual talent…

  • MizzFairy(n8v)

    They make music, they love it, kids love it, people love it….i havent heard of any of these rappers being locked up yet since i have been listening to their music so they gotta be doing SOMETHING RIGHT…IF THEY WERE JAILBIRDS THEY WOULDN’T GIVE A CRAP ABOUT MAKING MUSIC..at least youg people can relate to the story their telling!!

  • Mike girden

    on that note wheres macleans article on you? …. with success comes you douche bags…. aka haters

  • mide

    youth interpret hopeless stuff as negativity and the kids who really were forced to witness gang life grew out of this stuff, they dont yearn for it when its truly been in their family at a young age its kind of embarrassing for them to hear people glorify it. That's just one opinion though. Pride and self esteem are great things to restore in a peoples culture thats been destroyed so at least these artists making steps. If these artists gonna represent aboriginal culture I think they shouldnt be as negative because traditional aboriginal culture is not about that at all. People need to restore positiveity so if they gonna use race as a crutch they really dont need to give native peoples a bad name further but hey thats my opinion. Now You got the attention of people you really gotta make a positive turn or else youlI just be another martyr of violence cuz the real gangstas gonna come after em for talkin slick and then what…I still appreciate artists who enjoy what they do and make dope music but hope thats the exemplary effect the kids get out of it and they dont follow negative paths

  • gordon bell

    these guys will make it nowhere they go to parties beat up young kids and kick little girls in the head its safe to say these bums will never make it outta the north end

  • fedupwinnipeg

    I don't understand why being a "gangster rapper" is so cool these days? Guys, you grew up in Winnipeg's north end, have you ever been to other cities "ghettos", this is like Disney World in comparison. You act like you've got it so tough, you're given rights and privileges as "indians" that most choose not to do anything with. How about teaching the younger generation of indians to go to school and get jobs instead of glorifying yourself to them as gangsters and thugs, bragging about how much cash you make selling drugs and having sex with multiple women with a no-responsibility "i dont care" attitude towards life? Why do you think indian people are looked down upon in Winnipeg especially, and people are afraid to even go downtown nowadays? It's because so many of these kids growing up on this stuff are growing up and becoming criminals. Monkey see, monkey do mentality. Lets be honest, Winnipeg doesn't exactly have the greatest opportunities, but there is still options and it's sad to see that kids are growing up like this. I'm not saying it's all this groups fault, not at all, but for some reason it seems most young indian kids are turning out like this. If you think my outlook on this matter is so wrong, I challenge you – at the next concert go and ask these people where they work, or if they are in school. I can certainly guarantee you by a landslide they will be unemployed and dropped out. I'm not saying this to be mean, these are just the facts. Being a drug dealer with no education isn't cool, and you are not "role models". There's a fine line between an entertainer and a role model, most people don't seem to know the difference. I enjoy watching Jackass, but would I consider Steve-O a "role model", absolutely not. If you're letting your kids admire these guys and look up to them as role models, you should get your head examined. Would you let these guys babysit your kids? I could go on, but I feel I've made my point.

  • Mike girden

    maybe you forgot winnipeg is the murder capital of canada almost 10 years running…. again not per capita ,, thats just flat out more murders than any where else in this country…. statistically showing 84 percent of winnipegs murder's take place in the north end ! fuk any where else's ghetto… what do you know about other cities ghetto's ? let alone our own? retard… oh sorry that politically incorrect…. MORON

  • old skool

    u really are a retard mike…who cares bout the murder?whats that got to do with being a role model?us older north-enders were here long before morons like u who think they own and control the streets here in this supposed'ly HOOD u rappers use all the time..sorry but its our community not your HOOD…oh wait…u mean u wanna turn it back to a community after makin it a HOOD?..hypocrites

  • WikweemRep'10

    well when they were in the gang life, they werent embarrased, because they never grew out of it by then, you dont just wake up and decide that youre going to change the mindset that you've had your whooole life, and thats certainly not the case for these guysz… you could take the boy out the streets, but you cant take the streets out the boy,,, all im saaying is that it takes different people, different amounts of time to "grow up" and these guysz minds are still in the streetsz, but personally i think it makes their music that much better … they got the passion of the streets. haha maan, you aint been nowhere … what real gangstasz.. you? … you couldnt front on winnipeg's most, these homiesz arre gangstasz.. Northside in PegCity, tha murder CAPITAL… only tha strongest survive…. and these guys survived .., soo whutsz that say ? you polly grew up inna sub, where the hardest things to go down was someones daughter kickin kerpals dog,, lmaao.

  • WikweemRep'10

    itsz hatasz like yuuu that make tha world go round , and make these guys famous, keep on goin dawg, your only makin em known.

  • Cubbycab

    funding for aboriginal people making the transition from rural to urban areas was “less than 5 cents for every dollar spent on immigration settlements and transition”. – Canada West Foundation, Hanselmann, 2003:5. whish jives with what you say-  its way easier to make it on 93 cents than 4 cents. go figuer. I guess its more of an economic problem rather than race.

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