It's amazing that grown adults need to be told this…but then there's QP.

This interest in civility is really important. But the problem with the analysis is that "civility" discourse needs coercive sanctions, to be sociologically effective, as that's what makes the short-term restraint pay off over the long term. I.E. people who shout and swear about politics at dinner parties are marginalized and not invited back. But people who shout and swear about politics in QP are not disciplined at all, and might even be rewarded for the behavior.

So this creates a difficult problem, both for analysis and for tangible progress. We get brilliant guys like Kingwell and Wehner telling us to embrace civility, as it's great for democratic society, when empirically the analysis is moot, as it actually isn't normatively expected to behave well in QP anymore. I mean, Pierre Poilievre's mother isn't calling him every night, freaking out about what the neighbours will say. The redlines for behavior are now basically to a)not engage in Taiwanese-style parliamentary fistfights, and b)not to call people a specific list of insults.