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Free trade with Europe? Never mind

by Paul Wells on Thursday, February 17, 2011 10:42pm - 47 Comments

How’s the big trade deal with Europe coming along? Don’t ask.

Study: Canada-EU Trade deal proposals could add $2.8 billion to drug costs

Environmentalists say Canada-EU Trade Pact bad for Climate Change

Ont., Que. concerns holding up EU trade talks, roundtable says

EU nations reluctant to liberalize trade in services

Estimated $12 billion windfall in EU deal dismissed as ‘sales pitch’

Charest defends setting conditions in EU talks

To be sure, much of this choppy weather is coming from the leftish labour-union and economic-nationalist types who announced 10 months ago they were mobilizing to stop the Canada-EU deal. They have been as good as their word. But what’s more striking is that, three months after the negotiations were originally scheduled to be completed, the trade talks drag on — and Canada-EU trade liberalization has no prominent champion.

Despite his protestations, Jean Charest has run out of enthusiasm for the Canada-EU trade process he launched more or less by himself in 2007. (It is amazing to me that I wrote my first article about all of this nearly four years ago.) And at any rate, Quebec has run out of enthusiasm for him. Dalton McGuinty was never a strong advocate of this deal. Gary Doer, who used to be, is in Washington where he cannot help. Alberta, B.C. and Newfoundland are distracted with leadership politics. The Canadian Council of Chief Executives, run by one of Canada’s most ardent free traders, John Manley, has buried any advocacy for Canada-EU trade so deep in its website you can’t find it with teams of hounds. For good reason, as we will soon see.

I haven’t paid all of this the close attention I did in 2008 and 2009, so I was amazed when I visited recently with an ambassador from an EU country. He said Canada and the EU have pencilled in July as the signing date for the so-called CETA, or Comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement, during the annual Canada-EU summit in Ottawa. But then this ambassador said he sees no sign there will be such a deal. “The premiers never have anything good to say about it,” he said. (Here’s an omen. Watch what happens when you try to follow the link to a federal government website about the deal.)

Normally I’d predict that when that moment comes, or a few months later, Harper and his counterpart (Poland’s prime minister, I believe) will sign a tremendously watered-down trade agreement that keeps all the usual sacred cows — supply management, procurement, appelations controlées, services — well-watered and un-liberalized. Except for this: the lead European negotiator, Mauro Petriccione, has already said publicly that Europe is not interested in such a limited deal because it would harm the credibility of future trade negotiations with other non-European countries and blocs. So there’s a real possibility the whole four-year process could simply collapse.

And all of that was before tonight’s news. Which is big.

A high-powered group of auto executives is pushing Ottawa to halt free-trade talks with South Korea and the European Union and to offer incentives for an industry threatened by the rising dollar and growing competition from lower-cost markets.

The story goes on to detail the handiwork of the surreally-named “competitiveness working group” of the Canadian auto-industry subsidy racket. It turns out that the heads of Magna and the Big Five automakers have decided to argue, with a straight face, that Canada will be more competitive if it trades less and subsidizes its heavy industry more. “The dollar’s back at parity and that creates an issue from a cost standpoint,” Ford’s president says. “To retool our plants in Canada, we need incentives.” Apparently threat of bankruptcy isn’t incentive enough. As for CETA, “Canada requires a more sophisticated and less-idealistic view of free trade with Korea and the European Union.”

Now, if anyone’s tempted to predict that the car bums will be shown the door when they call on this government — this Conservative, red-blooded, fearlessly entrepreneurial government — to eviscerate Canadian trade policy and pony up yet more subsidies, probably all I need to say to destroy that fantasy is that the minister they’ll be meeting with is Tony Clement.

That’s the end of that trade deal.

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  • madeyoulook

    AAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaargh!

    People with brains are DELIBERATELY seeking to shoot our competitive selves in the foot. After the FTA and NAFTA clearly helped push us to new and prosperous heights. And we want to sacrifice this for some slothful (but sacred) dairy cows? Why, Paul? Why?

    If only we had a conservative party at the helm of this country…

    • McC_

      I know, right? the only way to compete is to keep our tiny domestic market captive with prices artificially inflated by … what 6.1% import tariffs? what a lame testimony on their part!

    • http://myblahg.com Robert McClelland

      After the FTA and NAFTA clearly helped push us to new and prosperous heights.

      When did that happen? Overall, free trade agreements have neither harmed nor helped our nation.

      • Keith in Brampton

        The only real way to have absolute certainty as to the effects of these agreements is to visit an alternate universe in which everything had unfolded identically until the point where the agreement was signed (here) / rejected (there) and see what the long-term differences were.

        Anyone have a window into such a universe?

        • hosertohoosier

          There are plenty of ways to study the impact of the FTA that don't involve alternate universes. You can use regression, you can do case studies of firms.

          The CBO, for instance, constructed a model that compared Mexico with and without NAFTA. They find that the effects of NAFTA were small (+.006-.042% of GDP for the US, but positive for both Mexico and the US (the majority of Mexico's tariff reductions actually preceded NAFTA). However, there was a dramatic increase in US investment in Mexico.

          Here is the study, if you are interested: http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/42xx/doc4247/Report.pd…

  • Mike514

    What, no mention of the Oda crisis? I’m disappointed… :)

  • Emily

    Or…Harper may just go ahead and sign it anyway. OIC and all that.

    Doubtful that the Libs would go against free trade with Europe. Layton will squawk but everyone ignores him. Same with Maudie.

    As for the welfare bums in the auto industry…they've had their helping hand. In fact they've had many over the years. I'd be happy to use another appendage on em….with a pointed toe.

    As to Clement…he'll do what Harper tells him. Period.

  • Mulletaur

    When one is thinking about free trade, one should avoid smoking crack.

  • Jenn_

    Well, a signed accord may not exist, but here's a link that works. Not very informative, but it works!
    http://www.international.gc.ca/commerce/visit-vis…

  • hosertohoosier

    I'm not sure Magna's position should be all that surprising. Frank Stronach ran as a Liberal in the 1988 Free Trade election. What does strike me as interesting is the role being played (or rather not played) by the premiers in all of this. Herding cats makes herding premiers look easy (at least you can throw a cat – most premiers are too heavy).

    The United States had similar problems with congress prior to the 1934 RTAA. Tariff legislation was largely controlled by congress, with the unfortunate consequence that concentrated, well-organized protectionist interests prevailed politically over diffuse free trading interests (free trade benefits many people, but not enough for them to organize, whereas it hurts a few, enough to make them care). Through vote-trading, tariff measures would often snowball – Smoot-Hawley being the famous case.

    The RTAA changed the relationship between congress and the presidency. After its passage, congress granted the president the authority to reduce tariffs (up to a set limit), with the stipulation that deals would have to be reciprocal. Centralizing power in the presidency enabled for coherent, streamlined trade negotiations, while also enhancing American leverage (since only reciprocal deals were allowed by law). If Canadian federalism is posing similar obstacles to good policy, it may be time for a little more Ottawa.

    • Amateur Hour

      "What does strike me as interesting is the role being played (or rather not played) by the premiers in all of this. "

      Given that Mr. Harper has held no First Ministers' meetings in more than 5 years in office, this is hardly a surprise.

    • Keith in Brampton

      "it may be time for a little more Ottawa"

      One of Harper's key principles is a downsized, decentralized government. Surely he wouldn't backtrack on a core policy?

      <tongue firmly planted in cheek>

  • JDot

    Paul says…

    "Now, if anyone’s tempted to predict that the car bums will be shown the door when they call on this government — this Conservative, red-blooded, fearlessly entrepreneurial government "

    Ugh, why am I surprised this post turned into a Government bash post.

    PS:Hey Wells, you seem to talk about Poland alot. Is your heritage from poland?

  • Inkless

    (After deleting a few rounds of insults back and forth) Please stop sniping at each other. I'll shut comments down rather than put up with it.

    • JDot

      Sorry I was out of line..

    • Reverend_Blair

      You need some tractor time, Paul. Seriously. It's therapeutic…makes the goofiness less annoying. Next time you find yourself in Winnipeg, look me up and I'll let you drive my latest John Deere. Come when it's warm out, and I'll have the beer holder installed too.

      • McC_

        that sounds like great fun!

  • Emily

    This is true of more than telecommunications in Canada.

    Makes me crazy, always has….the EU trade deal is the ONE thing I'd vote for Harper on.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5wWQqP73Ek

    • Jan

      How would our foreign ownership rules for telecoms fit with this deal? Clement is so elusive on this.

    • Keith in Brampton

      The EU's ban on seal products already violates the spirit if not the substance of any such agreement. And they routinely ignore fishing quotas off our east coast. While in principle a free trade agreement seems like a good idea, I'm afraid I don't trust them much.

      • Emily

        The only 'ban' is for commercial sealing….the products of which are being sold to China.

        Inuit can still seal, and sell any products. This is a fake issue.

        An agreement would clear up this poaching you suspect them of.

        A deal would mean billions for Canada, plus many other benefits.

  • JDot

    Anyway thanks for the update Paul(You seem to be the only person covering this). Does not look good, 2012 after all the provincial elections, seems when things will get back on the rails..

    Ugh…

    • JDot

      er' "seems to be when things"

    • @poneilinparis

      Hey, JDot, did you actually look at the links Paul posted? My byline is above three of those stories, and I wrote about two of the other three subject matters!!! Sheesh.

  • Diogenes54

    I loved how you juxtaposed the phrase "sacred cows" with "supply management". Harper and company have stressed the need to protect these policies. Why? Food safety? Ha-ha – good one. Let's review the stories about listerosis, samonella and e-coli stories that surface in Canada every year.

    I have read that the price for purchasing an existing milk quota under Canada's current supply management regime has gone as high as $30,000 per cow. Your competence, equipment, and dairy herd mean nothing at all in Canada. It's the quota you own (and probably inherited).

    In Holland there is this very popular show – Boer zoekt vrouw (Farmer seeks wife), where they profile about 5 single farmers (mostly men but a few women) with the aim of matching them up with a suitable mate.

    In the last series, there was a Dutch dairy farmer who had 1000 cows. And his dairy farm was in Germany! Do the math. In Canada, they would have to relabel the show "Dairy tycoon seeks wife".

    BTW – milk and cheese are about 1/2 the price in Europe (which reportedly also has the highest food prices in the world) as they are in Canada. And they don't refrigerate the eggs in the supermarkets here.

    • Emily

      OTOH…eggs and milk in Canada are good until you remember to use them….or the next ice age, whichever comes first. LOL

      • McC_

        If you think our milk is good for a long time, you should look up the availability of UHT-pasteurized milk on European store shelves.

    • Jan

      Dairy products is another thing we're getting gouged on in Canada. I understand the Australians did something about their milk quotas.

    • McC_

      "BTW – milk and cheese are about 1/2 the price in Europe" and so much better! for a heart of fresh, un-pasteurized Neufchâtel, my only regret would be that I have but one auto parts industry to give.

    • Reverend_Blair

      I've milked cows on a dairy. It happens at least twice a day (some farmers milk three times a day), seven days a week. Calves being born all year around, usually at night.

      Anybody milking 1000 of them is unstable from sleep deprivation and exhaustion at best, even if they never personally interact with the cows. Forget about the issues around factory farming, any system that puts farmers at risk of working themselves to death is not a good system.

      • madeyoulook

        I will venture waaaay out on this here wee little limb and suggest they've got more than one person milking them bessies…

        • Healthcare Insider

          Actually they use milking machines if I am not mistaken.

      • Diogenes54

        There were a couple of hired hands and yes, milking machines, computers and the like. This may qualify as a factory farm, but this herd was well-cared for. One segment showed how they trimmed the hooves – done by hand.

        The farms here are amazing. I have really come to appreciate how much art, science and skill are need for agriculture. The farms here may not be massive, but they are certainly productive and, I suspect, competitive.

  • McC_

    “To retool our plants in Canada, we need incentives.”
    Good grief! interest rates are still at stable historic lows, the dollar is at stable historic highs, and the federal government eliminated all tariffs on manufacturing inputs in last year's budget (a rare good move, giving credit where credit is due), not to mention stuff I don't really understand like accelerated capital asset depreciation…. those should be all the incentives industry needs to invest in productivity enhancing capital, for pete's sake!

    time to tell these so-called captains of industry "No more corporate tax cuts for, go back to your plants with no dessert if you're going to behave this way!"

  • http://www.cdfai.org/the3dsblog/ MarkOttawa

    Lovely post, right on the money. As with Coyne's recent article, this government is all big and very little little "c": http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/02/16/a-test-of-our-…

    Mark
    Ottawa

  • Blue

    And I am not surprised to hear that the " leftish labour-union and economic-socialist types " are behing this sabotage of the new free trade deal. They are an extremely powerful self-interested group with representation in Parliament, unions, media, universities, etc.

    They will stifle any progressive legislation that will endanger the stranglehold they have on the nations economy.
    With their influence on both the private and public sector they are the establishment.
    With their resistance to anything that will change to lessen their influence and power they are conservative.
    With their abundance of socialist thinkers they are left-wing.
    They are the new left-wing conservative establishment and they are poison.

    • McC_

      We're a long long way from the implementing legislation stage of a prospective free trade deal. Pray tell Blue how are they sabotaging these negotiations? What is the nature of their establishment influence over the private sector? Why are they more establishment and powerful today than they were during the FTA-NAFTA years? Why haven't they succesfully blocked other initiatives to increase our imports of foreign-built goods to the "substitution-loss" of potential Canadian production such as the elimination of all tariffs on manufacturing inputs? the elimination of the 25% tariff on foreign-built ships? the Asia-Pacific Gateway which rapidly funnels already-low cost Chinese goods to Canadian store shelves as cheaply and efficiently as possible? I could go on… can you?

    • Sima Nitram

      Wow, Grade 6 social studies from the Chamber of Commerce. Real estate agents are more eloquent.

  • Blue

    McC_………I suppose their influence in the private sector is a little more subtle than the public where the average salary has increased 60% over the last 12 years compared to about half that amount in the private sector. But the forced unionization of employees in the construction and manufacturing industries continues. Private companies are not allowed to bid on jobs like garbage pick-up in places like Toronto. And the taxation demands on the private sector, much of it to pay for large salary and pension requirements from the public sector continues to make them hostages to the ever increasing budget needed by the multitude of gov`t departments.

    • noob_goldberg

      Uh, I actually have friends who drive garbage trucks for Miller in and around Toronto, and last I checked it was a private company. http://www.millergroup.ca/waste/regions/gta/index…

      That doesn't address the meat of your post, but I figure I'd let you know that anyway. The main reason I post anonymously on web forums is to test my rhetoric in a controlled setting, so that I work out the bugs before I use it with my name attached in the real world. I figure others are probably doing the same, so I provide constructive criticism.

    • McC_

      yes, we have unions and collective bargaining in Canada, as in every other democracy, well played sir. But that's really rather peripheral to the questions I asked regarding how it is that your so-called "new left-wing conservative establishment" is effectively torpedoing Free Trade with Europe, while it was unable to stop other free trade measures that have been implemented recently or in the late 80s and early 1990s.

  • Anders

    Maybe I'm being paranoid, but it seems many of the developments which could help the Canadian economy diversify beyond the US market face an inordinate amount of opposition:

    Canada-EU Comprehensive Economic Agreement
    Enbridge's Northern Gateway Pipeline
    LSE-TMX Merger

    Could it be that someone in the Great Republic doesn't like our grand ideas of "trade diversification" and is pulling some strings? I hope not, and I'm hopeful that the Harper Government will do the smart thing and ensure this agreement is implemented.

    • Emily

      Well Americans see 'business' as a cut-throat, dog-eat-dog kind of thing and when aroused can be very 'unpleasant' shall we say…about it.

      Canadians have always been content to trade with the US, to be a branch-plant economy, to build a business and then sell it to Americans and retire to the cottage and the boat. We are an attic, nay a warehouse, full of resources for them, and more than happy to gain American dollars in return for it all. Americans have taken that for granted, and we barely get noticed.

      Should Canada suddenly start getting other ideas….like trading with Europe and China….I'm sure we'll come to their attention in a big way and some of that 'unpleasantness' will happen.

      Horror stories about Europe, and the sudden 'vastness' of the Atlantic will be brought to our attention….and that will likely be the least of it. Money and lobbying are huge weapons….and attempts to move away from the US market will be firmly discouraged. If we persist…there are other weapons they can use. I'm not saying they'll go to the max on this…but they'll certainly make an effort.

      • Keith in Brampton

        Anders, Emily: glad to see I'm not alone in my paranoia…

        • Emily

          No, there's probably a lot of us that share it….which is why I'm keen to trade with Europe, to get us away from that dominance. Diversify, spread out so to speak…..so Canadians don't have to worry everytime the President, or the US economy sneezes

  • Sima Nitram

    Mr. Well's monthly blog post. Worth waiting for, but what a wait.

  • Jan

    Our Long National Nightmare continues. I will die before the price of Reggiano comes down and we'll all be driving our own version of the Lada.

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