Two charts you need to see about commodities and the housing market

by Jason Kirby on Thursday, March 10, 2011 4:33pm - 29 Comments

Our latest issue should be hitting stands today or tomorrow with a story looking at the love-in that investors, both international and domestic, have for Canada at the moment. (Online-only readers will have to wait a week to read the piece at Macleans.ca. Better yet, go buy a copy of the mag.) You’ll have heard the “Buy Canada” thesis many times by now—our vast resources, supposedly prudent government finances, strong housing market and resilient job sector make us a stand-out in the global economy.

But there’s a weakness to that string of logic. All of those strengths we like to boast about are underpinned in one way or another by the phenomenal commodity bull market of the last decade, which has reshaped the Canadian economy. The thing to remember though is that commodities regularly go boom and bust. Always have. So is this time going to be any different? You be the judge. (click to enlarge.)

Commodity Chart

The above chart is from this week’s magazine story. It tracks the running 10 year annual returns in overall commodities. Through wars (both hot and cold), easy credit booms and even the U.S. industrial revolution, any time the commodity market has gone through a period like it just has, a nasty spill invariably followed. With the TSX down nearly 680 points or 4.7 per cent this week on softening commodity prices, there’s an argument to be made we’re cresting the peak once again.

Investors aren’t the only ones who should be hoping the commodity bull market keeps on a’runnin’. The real estate sector has benefited in a huge way from strengthening resource prices, thanks to low unemployment and higher incomes, not to mention the  overall sense of invulnerability that’s come to pervade the Canadian mindset. But to truly appreciate the stunning heights Canadian house prices have reached, history is helpful once again. For our story we spoke with Robert Shiller, the Yale professor famous for developing the Case-Shiller House Price Index in the U.S. which tracks prices going back to 1890. In the absence of solid historical Canadian data, Shiller suggested “an exercise” of fusing his index with the Canadian Teranet-National Bank House Price Index, on the assumption that house prices in the two countries behaved relatively similar prior to 1990. Here’s the result: (click to enlarge)

By the looks of that, we’re well into uncharted territory. As Shiller told me, “This is just to give an impression how unusual things are in Canada now. Canada is going through a major historic boom, at least in comparison with booms in the US before 1990.” For what it’s worth, you can see Shiller’s full U.S. chart, and how house prices fell back to earth after the bubble burst, here.

I should mention that before posting the Shiller chart, I ran it past Simon Côté at National Bank of Canada who devised the Teranet index. He cautioned that the price gains of the past decade should be taken in the context of Canada’s nominal GDP gains over the past half century. Here’s what he had to say:

“I think you may find that, yes house prices have increased a lot in the past 10-15 years, but the price increases since the 60s or 70s may be in line with the change in GDP, in other words houses prices might not have increased more than the overall wealth of Canadians.”

Decide for yourself how much to read into the above charts. I’d just say that we’d all be wise to remember one thing: both resources and real estate are commodities, and rule #1 in commodities is what goes up, eventually comes down.

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  • OriginalEmily1

    Our economy is running on oil and hot air at the moment.

    • filturk

      That's right, oil sands and natural gas.

      • OriginalEmily1

        Shale oil and political hot air.

        Natural gas is methane.

  • noob_goldberg

    Last night's Canada 2020 discussion at the Chateau Laurier was supposed to talk about future economic drivers and concerns, and I was surprised that neither Brad Delong nor David Dodge really mentioned the risk of future interest rate hikes or the explosion in Canadian housing and real estate as major concerns for the future.

    Let's face it, a 2% hike in interest rates would lead to all sorts of domestic economic carnage in Canada, and abroad. So I suppose it's best not to think of that probability at all.

    • Sam Steele

      Maybe you should think about buying property in the States. The real estate market has collapsed, but economists think that it's about to go up again, and interest rates are about as low as they will ever be in this lifetime.

  • madeyoulook

    Interesting. Chilling, but interesting.

    About that first graph, the "Price of Commodities" index. My first reaction was priced in what??

    Are they US-dollar prices? If so, are they "anchored" to a specific year, so that the "price" is adjusted for whatever measure of inflation we're dealing with through time?

    And if it is indeed "Price in US dollars," then you do not have a single variable there. You have two. Maybe the value of the commodity is going way up, or maybe the value of the legal tender used to price it is tanking, or maybe a bit of both.

    Every time I hear "Oil went up today" I try to see what happened to the US dollar.

    • Colby Cosh

      You're right to ask this question, but you do have to depict the price in SOME unit of value. So you'll have two variables no matter what. The global reserve currency was a logical choice.

      • madeyoulook

        you do have to depict the price in SOME unit of value.

        Thank you for repeating my point. As far as I can see, nowhere in this text, nor in the figure containing the chart, does one find "US dollars" as the unit of price measurement.

        Assuming you and I are both correct that the unit is indeed a trace-of-cocaine-laced piece of green paper with George Washington's visage front and centre: I have no problem with the choice of the global reserve currency. But I maintain that anyone fretting over the price of oil MUST also take into consideration the fact that the custodian of the value of the global reserve currency (used to price that barrel, that ounce of gold, that hog belly, whatever) appears to be completely indifferent (at best) or quite injurious (at worst) to its present and future value.

        UPDATE: I see Jason Kirby clarify below that indeed the chart used US dollars.

  • ColdStanding

    If the Canadian economy is truly founded on easy credit and inflated commodity prices, then, yes we are much more vulnerable than might be commonly understood. The question to ask is: What are the types of Trigger Events that have precipitated a crisis in other places? Are our institutions funded and managed on a sound basis? What exposure is there to regions that, should a cascade event occur, could drag the Canadian economy down?

    We have already been tapped for funds to save GM (have we gotten our cash back yet?). What else could fail that Canadians would have to pick up the tab for? If tax payer money is diverted to cover the losses of ill-managed corporations, then many of the programs that make up the standard of living for a very great number of Canadians would be in jeopardy.

    • anonymous

      I would think the gold bubble bursting would be a pretty plausible trigger event.

      • ColdStanding

        Some long-term gold bugs, such as Bob Chapman, are on record saying that gold is going much higher. He has been watch the market for ages and could well be right. But I have no idea how gold will/would become a practical replacement for fiat money. If you had to use a metal, silver would be a better choice.

        How would gold prices tumbling be a trigger event? It doesn't seem like it is widely held enough that a sudden devaluation would trip up the system. Most of the people that have their money in gold are parking it there because they have no faith in the financial system. In other words, there isn't as big a stack of derivatives on gold as there was on mortgages, excepting as…

        What could cause some real disturbance would be the revelation of the scandalous practices in the ETF's of gold and the exchanges in gold. There is no way that they have enough gold to cover all of the claims for physical delivery. But, the only way this would be revealed is if something caused a run on the deposits of gold (demand for delivery) which would only come about as a result of some other trigger event.

    • Sam Steele

      The Canadian economy may not be exactly robust, but it's still in better shape than the US economy.

      That being said, the economies of every country in the world are dependent on the US. The TSX, Nikkei and every stock exchange in the world took a dive when the NYSE fell to the lowest level in nearly 80 years in 2008. When the US markets cough, everybody else catches a cold.

      Should anybody be surprised when GM and Ford come roaring back to profitability? When you consider that the automobile companies employ so many people in both Canada and the United States, it should surprise no one that people in both countries are scraping up a few pennies to buy a car that many of them really can't afford right now.

      Sure, government bailouts in several countries have helped the North American auto industry come back, but we are already starting to get our money back: the automobile industry is making money again.

      I don't know about other cities in Canada, but in Windsor, Ontario, health insurance for all wouldn't be possible without Ford picking up much of the tab. The automobile companies have been the largest tax payers in Windsor for more than 100 years.

      We have to learn to live with vulnerability. Markets are, by their very nature, volatile, because most invesors are risk averse.

      • ColdStanding

        Almost everybody uses financing to acquire a new car. I am starting to see reports coming out of the States that suggest that many of the finance deals are being done with people whose primary expression of credit worthiness is that they can fog a mirror. The suggestion is that these loans are then being taken and securitized using very similar modus operandi to what was done in the housing market with mortgages. The cars are being sold at very low margins to stimulate financing demand, because the financing is where the money is being made. Not on the interest payments, but on the securitization. This is a pump and dump.

        Sorry to say for the good citizens of Windsor, but there are significant shocks on the way.

        We do not have to "learn to live with vulnerability." We have to kick out the people that are gaming the system, write fair rules with an eye to fostering a productive economy, and vigorously enforce the regulations.

        The price of industrialized civilization is regulation, enforced regulation. Deregulation is de-civilization.

        • Leo

          Your bang on!!! The games go on, so sad really, and it looks to get worse. Those annoying Ally ads?

          "GM acquired AmeriCredit to help the automaker offer credit to more consumers, Dan Ammann, GM’s vice president of finance, said last year. Renamed General Motors Financial Co., the unit has expanded since the takeover and may increase loans to borrowers with lower credit scores. "
          http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-24/ally-fin…

          • ColdStanding

            Thank you. Though I have to say I think the main actor does a great job in those Ally ads. Anyways, even though it is the same MO, the gamers won't get near the same bounce out of this maneuver as what was squeezed from the housing market. Perhaps that will limit the damage. Perhaps there is so little left to damage.

            Not good.

          • madeyoulook

            Logical decision: "If it works, it works. If it doesn't, the government will bail us out." And the corporate decision-makers have extremely recent history upon which to base this decision-making. Grrrrrr.

  • V Dub

    CMHC. Credit expansion in Canada has been fully backed up and securitized by CMHC. Which is fully backed by… taxpayers!

    So yes… I US style correction of the Canadian market could result in many billions of bailout $$ coming from the taxpayer.

  • Sam Steele

    Yesterday, before the earthquake and tsunami hit Japan, commodaties were up because of the civil war in Libya. However, there's nothing like a few tremors in the ground to shake up the stock markets: commodaties are falling again.

    In nearly all kinds of trading, from stocks and bonds to baseball cards, the market will eventually reach it's natural state of equilibrium, or principal of moments. The best that most people can hope for is to break even and die in their sleep.

  • pathrik

    We have some pain full years ahead and most Canadians are going to be deer in headlights when these trends realign. The decision to radically lower mortgage lending standards and balloon the holdings of CMHC to keep the bubble floating in real estate are going to bite Canadians hard. Unfortunately it does not seem that people in Ottawa are concerned enough to prepare for any of this fallout. Rather they are too busy congratulating themselves on the fact we have delayed negative fallout's- taking world tours bragging about how we are the model of the world and all.

  • Justin

    Commodities chart wouldn't past muster for even basic presentations. Doesn't state currency as in C$ terms, commodities haven't moved in recent yrs as much as in US$ terms . Doesn't state what commodities and weight of each commodity – is it based on an index?. For the oldest data, it doesn't state how it was generated since available data was skimpy.

    The rest of the stuff about commodities such as the fall in the TSX is largely market timing advice by who? If it is the article writer, what's his track record?

  • OriginalEmily1

    Wow…as long as Canadians persist in all these myths, we're not going to get ANYwhere!

  • choco banana

    Jason I’m curious to know if your views about real estate still remain the same. I’m not sure where you’re located but in Vancouver (and I’ve heard other areas such as West Van, White Rock, South Surrey, etc) are being fueled by Mainland China buyers who consider sale prices of $1.5 M a steal compared to where they live.  Some say it will never end, stop waiting, and just get into the market. Even if China’s bubble bursts, it will still encourage foreign sales here locally. It’s like we live in this weird bubble in Vancouver that never bursts. The average home price is so out-of-whack for an average earning family here today…I only hope that what goes up, must come down like you say.

  • Greg in Cambridge

    It’s a real shame that many bad things in our lives hinge on the activities of “speculators” and “stock market Investors” that operate on “fear,rumours and speculation”
    There has to be a better way.

  • madeyoulook

    I am not sure I understand your two options fully. To me, "gaming the system" is what happens when there are rules all over the place. Or perhaps rules all over the place are the result of the system having been gamed.

  • ColdStanding

    So, less rules? Less rules, more enforcement? Clear rules, lax enforcement, Scouts Honour? More rules? New rules, new ribbons?

    I left it open and ambiguous in an attempt to get you to make something resembling a policy statement/position… something you seem rather disinclined to do.

  • madeyoulook

    You left the options to be balanced deliberately ambiguous in the hopes I might have a useful answer to it? And you freely admit to such rhetorical uselessness?

    Say good night, CS.

  • JT1W

    re: the last sentence in the article – Real estate is not technically a commodity.

  • ColdStanding

    I just don't understand where you are coming from. All that you have posted boils down to statements of indignation, opprobrium, and incredulity; an entirely negative (in the sense of lacking the corresponding positive expressions) oeuvre.

    I have, on occasion, experienced something resembling interest or pleasure at our exchanges, but I must also admit of being glad at the extended silence. I can only assume that some or all, perhaps especially the latter, applies to you as well.

    As I always say, post or don't post at your pleasure, but FGS, attempt to say something substantive once in a while.

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