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I was determined to let this slide but the facts that have emerged are…

by Andrew Potter on Wednesday, April 6, 2011 10:10am - 290 Comments

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I was determined to let this slide but the facts that have emerged are too loathsome to ignore.

The CBC has been taking a lot of criticism for its Vote Compass, an online quiz that asks you questions about where you stand on various questions of public policy, and then tells you which party you should vote for. Lots of people, from the right and the left, have been complaining that the result it gives is biased, or somehow misrepresent their political views. Maybe it does, maybe it doesn’t. Maybe these sorts of quizzes are just very poor devices for sorting the population by party.  I don’t know, and at this point I don’t care. What I do care about is the way Peter Loewen has been treated by Sun Media.

Peter’s a poli sci professor at the University of Toronto. He’s involved in the Vote Compass, mostly in preparing analysis of the data for the CBC. On March 31, in a story that ran on front pages across the chain, Brian Lilley broke the “news” that Loewen had also written some policy papers on equalization for Michael Ignatieff when he was running for the Liberal leadership in 2006. The rest of Lilley’s article goes on to list various half-assed accusations that the Vote Compass has a Liberal bias. Lilley never writes it straight, of course, but the implication of the article is that Loewen is deliberately torquing the Vote Compass results in favour of the Liberals.

The next day, Ezra Levant wrote a column making the same allegation, namely, that the Vote Compass has a default Liberal setting. He also insinuates that Loewen is some sort of covert agent feeding information back to the Liberals (he calls Ignatieff Loewen’s “former boss”, which is ridiculous).

It’s amazing what sort of character assassination you can get away through chickenshit use of question marks (in Levant’s case). Or in Lilley’s case, through the deliberate withholding of facts. As Peter Loewen himself told Lilley when Lilley interviewed him for his March 31 story, Loewen did the same sort of work for Harper in 2004 that he later did for Ignatieff. Loewen was also a staffer for a Nova Scotia Progressive Conservative leadership candidate in 2005. And he once donated money to Pierre Poilievre’s nomination campaign.

This information was available to Brian Lilley, his editor, and to Ezra Levant. It is thoroughly despicable that it was not included in the stories that were published. What is going on here? In yesterday’s Globe and Mail, Simon Houpt suggests that Loewen just got caught up in a broader anti-CBC campaign by Sun Media, as it prepares to launch its new television station.

If so, that’s disgraceful enough. But I actually think something more basic is at work here: Intellectual prostitutes like Brian Lilley and Ezra Levant are so used to selling their brains on the cheap in journalism’s back alleys, they find it literally incredible that everyone else’s intellect is not similarly for sale.

For the record: Peter is a friend of mine. I’ve known him for about six years, we met when I was a postdoc and he was doing his PhD at the University of Montreal. I’ve had drinks with him in bars and been to parties at his house. I have also gone to him, on a number of occasions, for his thoughts on a number of issues relating to Canadian politics, especially voter behaviour – turnout, national and regional patterns, shifting party support, that sort of thing.  He has always been extremely helpful – Peter’s a really, really smart guy.

And unlike the vast majority of academics of my acquaintance, I haven’t a clue how Peter votes. But more importantly, his academic work is irreproachably non-partisan. If you don’t trust me, give Peter’s work a read. Here’s his CV.  Or ask Tom Flanagan – who tried to get Sun Media to kill the story for the very reasons I’ve given here, and was pointedly ignored.

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  • wallyj

    Let's step away from the name-calling and finger pointing. The CBC can and should release the figures from this 'Vote Compass". If the numbers are close to what have been reported in the polls over the last few months,or even slightly leaning to to the left,then there may not be any bias. However,if the numbers for the liberal party are way out of whack,say over the 50% mark or higher,then a reasonable person would conclude that the CBC's compass has a built-in bias. CBC has not put up the numbers despite the concerns that have been raised. Why??? IMHO, CBC is knowingly participating in electoral fraud. I'll say it again,without the IMHO. OUR taxpayer-funded CBC is knowingly breaking the law. The CBC is using our dollars to advertise for the Liberal party. They have ad spots,featuring George S.,directing people to this 'vote compass'. Unless the liberal party is paying for those ads,and the ads say that they are endorsed by the liberal party,this is illegal. Also very immoral. SUE ME CBC…Or just hope that I and others go away. Good luck with that.

  • Dave

    I just took the poll, did not express an opinion on any question, and was rated a Liberal. Either Liberals do not think about the issues on which the vote or the poll is biased. I think it's toss up which of these two options is correct.

    As for CBC… it isn't the first time they have tried to throw an election… and it won't be the last… The CBC can't be defunded too fast for me. Those patronizing pissants have been pushing politics long enough.

    • JSC

      If you have NO Opinion about anything, maybe it considers you an idiot, and figures you’d be better off being under a Liberal administration as you’d be less likely to be thrown out on the street as you probably aren’t pulling yourself up by your boot strings.

      • modster99

        that was funny :)

  • chet

    http://ezralevant.com/2011/04/andrew-pottymouth.h…

    Oh my.

    Mr. Potter here seems to be, not only clearly in the wrong,

    but willfully wrong because he's defending his liberal clique.

    Oh my indeed.

  • chet

    For those slamming Levant, read my link above (others here may have posted it).

    It's startling.

    Daring to suggest someone is liberal who worked for Iggy may affect one's slant, is heresy to many here. It seems "progressives" are beyond reproach.

    Query though why one has to concoct facts to defend one's position, as it appears Mr. Potter did when suggesting our "beyond reproach" liberal pollmaker, "did the same thing for Harper"?

    • noob_goldberg

      Chet, I strongly suggest you read both posts from Sandy Crux before you give this round to Ezra.
      http://cruxofthematterinfo.wordpress.com/2011/04/… http://cruxofthematterinfo.wordpress.com/2011/04/…

      Flanagan's response shows nothing more than Flanagan protecting himself from the story. Levant continues to make unfounded conclusions, which have been detailed elsewhere. Loewen was never a paid employee of either the Liberals or the Conservatives. He most certainly was not a policy director for them, as Levant suggests. Lilley makes the ridiculous insinuation that he was equivalent to Ian Brodie, when all he did was write one policy memo!

      Levant and Lilley are way way offside on this one, Chet.

  • http://sharpe-stick.blogspot.com/ Don Sharpe

    I suppose I'm not allowed to use the same language in the comments as Mr Potter. His article could have been supported with facts rather than name calling. I took the CBC poll and I believe it is skewed to the left. Ezra does a terrific job of holding journalists accountable. As for "Peter is a friend of mine . . … I have no idea how he votes" – I don't believe that at all.

  • Paul

    I am amazed at the rhetoric that mainstream media use to defend the obvious biased "Harper Hating" position. Harper has not endeared himself to the media but neither is he the evil he is portrayed to be.
    I often marvel at the "Educated Imagination" of so called jornalists.
    I doubt Northrop would be amused.

  • A Sane Canadia

    As a LIEBERAL that would seem logical. "If you don't agree with me then there's something wrong with you". Go ahead, vote for the Visiting Professor", You were better off with Dion. Listening to the CBC is a good idea, 2 years from now, without the $2,000,000,000 they get from the Current Government, they will be GONE!

  • Robert

    My thoughts?

    Levant and Harper’s other ‘intellectual prostitutes’ do not hold a candle to the taxpayer-subsidized Trotsky/Beria screed that is the CBC.

    I’m not sure if they are ever going to be able to close the gap.

    As for Sun Media going after the CBC, a competitor?

    Have at it. And if you can get a real good one straight to their stones, good on you. Keep them coming.

  • Prairieanne

    Again, I haven't forgotten about Vote Compass. Does anyone know of any Globe and Mail or National Post journalists who have taken CBC to task for attempted political manipulation. Has Andrew Coyne or any other well-known political guru discussed Vote Compass? If not, why not?

  • MrMasters

    Read the Macleans article about the Vote Compass, it presents the facts. "But van der Linden says the group consulted with all the parties in plotting their positions". It is all about policy positions and matching them to what you believe in…. and while it may SEEM odd to some that the Conservatives are over that far to the right it is no shock to me. The clues are there if you choose to look at them. Don't vote with blinders on, inform yourself and see clearly the facts for what they are without making excuses for someone just because you always voted for them. The Conservatives are not the party they are trying to portray themselves as, they don't really represent most of the populations values and they don't listen to anybody with a differing opinion (be it scientists, business people, or other political parties).

  • thathotmegan

    while I appreciate the article, it seems to me that anyone who uses Sun News Network as a source of information is not really worth debating or trying to set straight. Sorry to sound 'elitist', but the SNN viewers are not that well informed, and have biases and beliefs that run so deep that there is no point wasting your breath. Bottom line is that the News Network is pure comedy gold, this is hilarious: http://oppugno.com/blog/2011/05/02/sun-news-netwo…

  • concerned Canadian

    I've got to say, this is welcome. I don't know so much about Lilley but Levant is a piece of work. I became his new poster boy for anti-Semitism in November 2009, my picture on his blog and a link to my personal website, because I work in web media for KAIROS (I sent my child to a Jewish kindergarten – no anti-Semite here). Subsequently received whacko email threatening me, and informing me that my family could be found. He gets away with this because he has a huge following that loves this kind of bullying, and because, as a libel lawyer, he's made a career out of skating along the very edge of libel and getting paid handsomely for the resulting furor.

  • Gayle

    I don't think Levant actually practices law.

  • concerned Canadian

    Professor Richard Moon writes a useful description of the techniques used to undermine the credibility of the Canadian Human Rights Commision by the likes of Levant

    "The techniques used by critics of the human rights commission are sadly familiar. They include:
    • identifying one or two commission or tribunal decisions which seem unreasonable in their outcome, and presenting them as if they are representative of the larger body of decisions;
    • when describing a particular case, highlighting certain facts or findings and omitting mention of others to give a misleading picture of the case;
    • relying on dubious sources and reporting their claims as if true and uncontested;
    • using terms in a way that is intended to mislead the audience, i.e. making a claim that with some strain on the language may be ‘true’ but which on an ordinary reading (the reading encouraged by the speaker) is false;
    • making blatantly false factual claims; and finally
    • engaging in personal attacks against those with opposing views, in order to undermine their credibility. "

    Article here: http://j-source.ca/english_new/detail.php?id=5100

  • Ras

    I think you are a liar. So gusty of you to be annoymous in making these accusations.

  • burlivespipe

    No, but he's putting a lot of their kids through college…

  • john g

    Come on Ted.

    Lilley's piece was a news article. Read it. It contains only facts. As far as I can tell there are no lies in Lilley's piece, other than lies of omission. Potter's point (which I agree wholeheartedly with) is that Lilley's piece deliberately omitted certain other relevant context which if known would change the story. The Canadian media has built it's entire reputation around following this practice in the other direction.

    As to Levant's piece it was opinion.. I could point to anything Heather Mallick has ever written as being more provocative than what Levant wrote, but left wing shills like her always get a free pass around here.

    And it's pretty ridiculous for Potter to complain about Sun TV "attacking the CBC" when the entire Canadian MSM has pejoratively referred to Sun News from day 1 as "Fox News North". Glass houses and stones Potter. Glass houses and stones.

  • Holly Stick

    Potter's phrase "intellectual prostitutes" is right on. Much worse than being a "leftwing shill"; though Mallick seems to be too busy writing about herself to shill much.

    Levant's opinions are full of lies. He has lost at least two libel suits against him; see wiki.

  • Missy

    hahaha, you guys are way to funny. Look in the mirror! All of you bashing Harper for having a cult, have your very own Liberal cult right here on this web site! hahahah

    Here's the bottom line: "People who live in glass houses, shouldn't throw stones!"

    And you guys actually think, without doing any homework, that your God Iggy is giving you a blessing, IF elected PM, by imposing CAP & TRADE TAX on all of us……yep, that includes you too. Liberal cultist are not excluded from this added scam tax burden.

  • Holly Stick

    He's lost a couple of suits. The Sun had to crawl to Soros over Levant's lies; I wish Soros would sue Levant into the gutter, but apparently he has not done so.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Levant#Libel_ca…

  • s_c_f

    You appear to be following the conversation a little better now.

    I'm wondering, will you be asking Potter when he will stop playing the victim card?

  • Thwim

    You may want to take a look at the Chicken Party of Canada's platform, which also includes CAP & TRADE TAX on all of us.

    Or is this a case of "It's Okay If You're A Conservative"?

  • http://halooverride.blogspot.com/ Halo_Override

    No, but feel free to keep pretending not to understand the difference.

  • s_c_f

    Oh, so now you're qualifying the victim cards: when a liberal pretends to be a victim (or in this case pretends that his friend is a victim of those horrible monster conservatives), that's a good thing, because after all, who knows, it might actually convince some poor dupe out there. Ezra Levant was hauled into court (and acquitted) for reprinting images in his publication, but he's not a victim of anything of course, because only liberals can decide who the victims are. But poor Peter Loewen is a victim, because his tool is supposed to be immune from any criticism whatsoever. I see.

    Your contributions to the conversation are always so meaningful.

  • http://halooverride.blogspot.com/ Halo_Override

    Oh, I gave up on meaningful ages ago.

    Today when I reply, I simply try to match the quality levels of content and tone of the forum's most egregious (and usually egregiously sloppy) manipulators of the English language, which used to mean something in the world of political debate but which now is apparently only a delivery system for half-wittery and willful dishonesty. That course of action I've chosen takes very little intellectual exertion, though it comes at some emotional cost.

    But normally, when I can't come up with something at least half-witty of my own, I settle for obliquely saying something I believe to be true, rather than lowering myself to the status of the vast majority of Conservative supporters on these forums by tying myself into a byzantine clusterfvck of logical knots, non-sequiturs, and shameless disinformation in order to support my "Team" in their quest for "Victory" against my "Enemies".

    Present company excluded, of course. Anyone who has spent the last few years on these boards knows s_c_f would never stoop so low.

    Principles are for losers,
    Halo

  • s_c_f

    "support my "Team" in their quest for "Victory" against my "Enemies"

    Yeah, you're right. I've never said anything like that. But of course, you're so full of sh*t that you'd claim that I did. And you're the one claiming the high road against "shameless disinformation". Meanwhile you make up false statements out of thin air. Such integrity, Mr. Halo. Go ahead, parse through my intense debate page, through hundreds of comments and try to find a single comment that is anything like that. But that's not for you, no, lies are your modus operandi.

    "come up with something at least half-witty"

    I'll break this to you directly: nothing you say is witty. I don't know what you say elsewhere, but I can assure you that no comment you've posted anywhere on these boards that I've seen has been witty in any way, shape or form. Nothing. Ever. Try harder.

  • SanDiegoDave

    Making blind partisans angry around here is like shooting fish in a barrel. I mean, it's fun for the first go-around but quickly becomes boring, don't you think?

  • Blue

    Ordinarily I would think your last paragraph was a little bit over the top s_c_f, however in this case, I think that pretentious snob had it coming.

  • Holly Stick

    Halo Overide has wits and is witty. scf and Blue are vicious and boring.

  • BCer in Mtl

    Hey Halo, a couple of posts up, do you have any Grey-Poupon? I seem to have run out, old chap.

  • Trudeau lover

    Hahahahahahaha! It so very funny to read Liberals in the media and their followers crying over one of their own being called out. Proof once again that Liberals are colossal hypocrites! Liberal shills like Potter and his followers can dish out hyperbole and character assassinations on a sometimes daily basis, bit if that hyperbole is turned on them they cry and whine with all the feigned outrage and hysteria a Liberal hypocrite can manufacture. The CBC are essentially telling people to vote Liberal by using a seriously flawed and obviously biased slight of hand, and Mr. Loewen was involved in this deliberate deception. A Liberal media whore calling out opposing views as whores of the other side just illustrates the continuing debasement of the political, and intellectual sphere. Mr Loewen was involved in the creation of an offensive, overtly biased propaganda mechanism employed by the Liberal partys CBC in an obvious and nefarious scheme at attempting to manipulate the electorate by encouraging them to vote Liberal. How much did the taxpayer funded CBC pay Mr. Loewen? Mr. Loewen should have known better then to get involved with helping out such low life characters as CBC propagandists. On the funny side of this issue, if one answers, "I don't know anything" and "I don't have an opinion on anything", it tells you that you are a LIberal… sounds about right. Liberals can ruthlessly and deliberately dish it out, but they sure can't take it.

  • Ariadne

    Had CBC heard, and listened well to criticism from the people who fund it (we the tax payers) not the Liberal party of Canada, this whole ugly and dirty mess, could have been avoided. By hiring political activists and ilk among their fold, they have succeeded in destroying a public broadcaster s image of impartiality. CBC can be partial but not as a public funded corporation. They should be brave enough to follow their hypocritical drive against Sun Corp., no public funding, oohps, or was it to not exist in Canada (…and they call themselves open minded and democratic)?

    If you are really real friends, you should be honest with your views (pros/cons), being lapdogs will not help yours and your friends mental and creative growth. Could anyone really say with open eyes and honest heart that the CBC’s voting compass is intelligently done?

  • http://halooverride.blogspot.com/ Halo_Override

    Left it in the other limo, regrettably. Wait a tic and I'll have them drive it over.

  • http://halooverride.blogspot.com/ Halo_Override

    Yeah, and I always feel a little dirty afterward. The old "wrestling with a pig" thing, I guess.

    Still, I managed to have some fun today.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/Ottawa_Centrist Ottawa_Centrist

    If someone were vandalizing your profession in a very public way, would you take a strong stand against the vandals or shrug it off?

    Columnists intentionally misleading a story (turning a non-story into a story) as part of a larger anti-CBC campaign should be challenged.

  • EastEU Canuck

    A few years back a bitter and confused acquaintance, called me an “intellectual prostitute” (knowing very well my professional achievements) simply because I had a different opinion on a certain topic. I was very honest in my dissertation (over a pint I might add), but all this person could think about was that proving him wrong was too much to take on top of his other misadventures. So he called me an “intellectual prostitute”. I only felt sorry for him and I did not respond to his attack…This is all I have to say to Andrew Potter

  • concerned Canadian

    Cute.
    Sounds familiar.
    Before making accusation s of lying, try a search on Levant's blog for KAIROS…

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