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Aaron Wherry covers all the goings-on in and around Parliament Hill. Follow Aaron on Twitter: @aaronwherry

The Commons: Rise up

by Aaron Wherry on Saturday, April 16, 2011 12:32am - 205 Comments

Michael Ignatieff had been speaking for something like an hour, without so much as a sip of water, pausing only to let members of the audience pose questions for him. Eleven hours earlier he’d been in Orleans, standing in a family’s garage, between their snowblower and their barbecue, to explain how a Liberal government would help families just like this take care of sick and aging loved ones. Now he was standing in the middle of a hotel ballroom in Sudbury, surrounded on all sides by rows of people—both faithful partisans and the merely curious.

He’d taken 13 questions and offered 13 responses and maybe he’d swayed a vote or two. Maybe he hadn’t. Whatever he’d accomplished, Day 21 of his first campaign as leader of the Liberal party of Canada was nearing its end. After this was a drive to the airport, after that a flight to Regina. By this time tomorrow he’d be in Edmonton, preparing to fly to Vancouver.

Before he left though he wanted to tell these people in this hotel ballroom about this song he’d been thinking about. “While I was on the bus this afternoon I found myself thinking about a wonderful singer called Bruce Springsteen,” he said. “Does everybody like Bruce Springsteen? I like Bruce Springsteen.”

It was not immediately clear where this was going.

“Bruce Springsteen is a great singer and somewhere in his work there is a wonderful song called The Rising,” he continued. “And in that song there’s a wonderful refrain—Rise up. And I began thinking about it today because we’re in a funny place in this election campaign right now.”

Mr. Ignatieff periodically breaks the fourth wall to become a sort of meta-politician. He confuses his previous life with his current one and becomes a journalist named Michael Ignatieff covering a politician named Michael Ignatieff. It is usually self-deprecating. But this was different. This was the politician acknowledging reality. Or taking stock of what seems to be his reality. Whatever was about to come, he seemed gripped with something.

“We’ve got a prime minister who shut down parliament twice and Canadians kind of shrugged,” he said. “We’ve got a prime minister who’s found in contempt of parliament. It’s never happened before in the history of our country and people say, kind of, ‘So what?’ We got a prime minister who tried to shut down the long-form census and people thought, that’s crazy, but kind of, ‘So what?’ And then we have a prime minister who just went out and smeared a member of his own caucus, tried to destroy her public reputation, and people say, kind of, ‘So what?’”

Two middle-aged ladies in the front row behind him shook their heads, appearing genuinely disgusted.

“And then we’ve got a prime minister who’s got a convicted criminal who was his chief of staff. Convicted five times of fraud and people say, kind of, ‘So what?’” he went on.

At first his sentences had been trailing off—the politician acting out the apathy—but now they seemed to be hardening.

“And then we’ve got a prime minister who’s got, right now, in his election campaign, four people accused of election fraud. And people say, ah, kind of, ‘So what?’ And then we’ve got a prime minister who allows only five questions to the press, the press are following him around, they only get five questions and if they ask six he walks away. And people say, kind of, ‘So what?’ And then we’ve got a situation where at Guelph university the other day, students lined up for two hours, some of them voting for the first time in their lives, to vote. And a Conservative operative tried to shut it down and stop it and some smart Conservative lawyer downtown tried to write a letter to get 700 votes by Canadian students disallowed in a federal election in Canada and people say, kind of, ‘So what, it’s just all political games, who cares?’”

It seemed for sure now that he had some kind of answer and indeed, with the full attention of six hundred eyes secured, here it came.

“And I kept hearing that refrain from Bruce Springsteen—Rise up. Rise up. Rise up, Canada!”

He nearly shouted this. The crowd began to clap, but Mr. Ignatieff kept on, talking louder over the swell, realizing his moment.

“Rise up! Rise up!” he cried. “Why do we have to put up with this? Rise up! Rise up! … Rise up! This goes beyond partisan politics! This goes beyond the Liberal party! This is about our country! This is about our democracy! Rise up! Rise up!

The crowd was now standing. Someone called out the refrain. Having built this up, he moved to justify his creation.

“We have got to fight here. We have got to stand and fight. This is not about me. This is not about the Liberal party. This is about the kind of democracy we hand to this child and this child and this child,” he declared, pointing to children in the audience. “We gotta rise up. We gotta stand and we gotta fight and we gotta win. This is not about the Liberal party of Canada. This is about the country you love. So rise up, Canada!”

It would seem to matter only marginally that he had confused his Springsteen songs*.

“Good night,” he said to the cheering, “thank you, merci.”

He and them were thus roused.

And now he has 16 days to make something of this.

*The refrain “rise up” is from My City of Ruins, which appears two tracks after The Rising on the 2002 album of the same name. The chorus of The Rising goes “Come on up for the rising,” while the chorus of My City of Ruins goes “Come on rise up.” In hindsight, they’re basically the same song, In fairness to Bruce, it was 2002 and we needed at least a couple songs like that.

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  • Concerned Canadian

    I respect the fact that this speech really impresed Mr. Wherry but the way he described it I was expecting something similar to Obama's race speech. Needless to say I was pretty disapointed with the oration of this mini speech. I found it shrill and to be honest rather condscending towards the voters. So far Mr. Ignatieff has proven to be a poor spokesperson for his party and this short rant seems to prove it.

  • awdmother

    How about Harper's "The Coalition says 'YES', (with chorus), the Conservatives say 'No' (no chorus, cuz Harper's the only one who gets to say no. I like Iggy's better, it's got real power and conviction. Lot's of voices are going to be singing that phrase out loud and in their heads. It sticks.

    • Atchison

      The shrill desperation in Ignatieff's voice is what sticks with you. It's funny that Ignatieff who has criticised Harper by stating that "“Mr. Harper wants to bring American-style attack politics into Canada,” would directly parrot Obama's 2008 campaign.

  • chet

    It is hard to believe Iggy would have a speech focused on the words "Rise Up, Rise up", and then NOT channel the only popular Canadian song with those very words. It's actually a good song…and inspirational.

    Here, for your viewing pleasure:

  • http://handsfreecanuck.blogspot.com chuckercanuck

    the obvious thing to note is "Rise Up" in terms of Canada makes you think of the Parachute Club and "Rise Up", not the wrong refrain to the wrong Springsteen song.

    Iggy picks the tangential yankee song over the clear, obvious Canadian song. That's too damned interesting a "tell" to not mention.

    Rise up! Canada! Rise up! Rise Up! Your mad as hell and your not going to take it any more! Its my money and I want it now!

    Here's another funny thing. It sounds an awful lot like the only good 30 seconds of John McCain's campaign when he ended his acceptance speech with:

    "Fight with me! fight with me! Fight for our children and their children! Fight for liberty and justice! Fight with me!" (with the rapt audience clapping wildly in the convention center).

    So, who's the secret Republican?

  • tsmith

    Ignatieff will never get people excited about him because he only ever talks about Harper.

    Harper being bad does not make Ignatieff good. Why is this so hard for him to see. Yeah sure, I won't vote Conservative. But I won't vote Liberal either. Their entire platform seems to be "we disapprove of Stephen Harper's personality. We want power so we can be more.. cordial?"

  • Atchison

    Stompin' Tom's Believe in Your Country speaks directly of a vision for Canada. Ignatieff would benefit for listening to it.

    [youtube pNbFLlMIp28 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNbFLlMIp28 youtube]

    • Leo

      Too perfect!!! Thx.

  • Anont

    We should be more concerned with a parliament and judiciary that is a throwback to empire- bleeds Canadian tax payers dry– delivers poor value – I suppose it is easier to blame the bogyman than address real issues that affect real Canadians. Many youth look at the political platforms and see nothing but hopelessness – an education system that is abysmal – we are enslaving our youth with student loans and failing to educate them on the basics. In Canada you need a certificate to take a breath. While higher education is important, the assets of any country are the people – our clever society closes the doors on the bulk of the population – smart – no stupid. The type of politics that divides the people of a nation or nations is to be frank cheap – real leadership please stand up – Real leaders unite their people. When will Canada stand up to the rampant corruption in this country? When will Canadians start asking the questions that matter? When will Canadians demand a better future? When will the politicians answer those that they serve? Decades and Im still waiting.

  • You

    My City of Ruins and the Rising aren't "basically the same song" and Bruce owes no apology for writing them. They are both brilliant songs completely different except one somewhat similar refrain (in terms of lyrics but not even remotely close in terms of melody or style of song). The author of this article is way off.

  • Pele

    Hitting a new low on the lame scale. Very john Kerryish.

    What's with Springsteen anyway? This is Canada, not Illinois.

    How about Gordon Lightfoot, Neil Young or Burton Cummings. Now, wouldn't it have been impressive if Iggy did some Stan Rogers…."I'm a broken man on a Halifax pier, the last of Trudeau's privateers."

  • Aview

    The liberal party was one of the most successful political entities in the world – which is impressive – and that success was not based on some emulation of Evanglical Shants, nor was it accomplished by bringing in the old guard – Chretien and Martin. It appears as if the party itself has decayed and its brainchild moved on…but interestingly, even as the strategic party brass appears in decline(?); if it fails in this election, the party gets two chances at being PM – a majority or coalition…no wonder they closed parliament.

  • Harry

    If Ignatula loses he'll just go back to his castle in Transylvania.

  • Leo

    If Harvard doesn't want him back, he could always try for a televangilist, lol!!!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFXVo2FnspE&fe…

  • Prairieanne

    Wow! What a right up. Obviously you wouldn't show that video. In it Ignatieff looks like he lost his marbles.

  • http://www.unseatHarper.ca Nadine Lumley

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    Have you searched for Stephen Harper Lately? http://youtu.be/xyeb8FSD1YQ
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  • http://www.freewebs.com/frgadupont zephania

    LOL!!! Iggy sounded like an Evangelist preacher on Sunday morning TV. He thinks Harper has Republican leanings or contacts in the tea-party. WOW! Is he ever off base. I think the stress of the election is getting to him. He has used several different tactics to present himself and so far none have worked. I hope he is not turning into another Glen Beck. You won't have to worry about a right wing TV station coming with Iggy around. We have to have someone on Harper's side. This guy ain't no Obama!!!

  • modster99

    small 'l' – I am guessing you are not a conservative.

    who is Lizzie May? have I ever commented about her?

  • modster99

    I haven't seen anyone else so obsessed with Harper, so no.

    If there is no sexism, it is impossible to see. I have seen from your numerous posts that you have a hard time admitting a mistake. You seem to be able to justify any comment or belief, regardless of facts. A lot of the time, you will just change the topic. There is not sexism in my above post, but you will defend your comment until the day you die.

    Why don't you surprise me, prove me wrong, and admit that there is no sexism in the post? I would imagine that would be impossible for you. . .

    • OriginalEmily1

      Opposing a political leader is just that…opposing.

      Why don't you find something new to talk about instead of me?

      Like say, the topic here.

      • modster99

        point proven.

  • WildRoseAB

    I love the line this is the first time in history a government was found in contempt. Imagine being on a committee with 3 of your worst enemies. The committee takes a vote on whether you are in contempt and surprise, you lose the vote! Does that make it so? If this was in the good old Chretien days, he would have simply shut the whole committee down – which he actually did.

  • Aaron Ralph

    'My City of Ruins' is about Asbury Park, NJ and pre-dated 9/11 (and 'The Rising' album). Bruce sang it to open the 9/11 telethon. It had rarely been heard before. It's not about Canada, of course, or politics, and Bruce would likely go WTF if he heard this odd citation.

    'The Rising' was about 9/11, about firefighters climbing up in the stairwells of the WTC as they were about to collapse and then continuing on up to heaven. Poignant and powerful, especially in concert.

    Bruce supported Obama and lost a lot of audience. Plans are a tour again next year if the economy improves. I'm guessing he doesn't want to be linked to a losing Canadian ex-pat who even after living in the U.S. during 9/11 and aftermath confuses two powerful Springsteen songs with totally different intent, meanings and soar. Notably, he chooses the dirge-like 'My City of Ruins' rather than the uplifting 'The Rising'.

    Iggy is reflecting on the ruins of his campaign's crash-and-burn. But it was never meant to be. He'll be 64 a few days after the election. Not the time or age to become a world leader. He needs more Springsteen, perhaps. May I suggest 'Hard Times (Come Again No More)' written by Stephen Foster in 1854 which Bruce often used to finish tour shows during the recession of 2009. It might remind Iggy that we survived the recession, and in doing so he lost his ticket to The Promised Land. (Bruce song from 1978)

  • bergkamp

    Was it really necessary for Maclean's to have two writers tell us how wonderful Iggy is and take an entirely too credulous view of what Libs are doing.

    Wells detalied in his article about resurrecting Iggy a few weeks ago that Iggy has dire personal numbers but Libs hoped once people saw Iggy campaigning everything would change.

    The only time Canadians are going to rise up for Iggy is if he tries to usurp power with help of NDP and BQ again. Lib hopes of miraculous turnaround during election are a damp squib.

    Please stop with the Liberal hagiography, Maclean's.

  • OriginalEmily1

    It's never happened before…yet committees have always been around.

    Chretien didn't shut down a committee either.

  • Jan

    Cast your mind back to 2004 when Harper was one of Martin's 3 worst enemies. Harper is nothing, if not flexible.

  • lenny

    "Does that make it so?"

    Nope. First you need the speaker to rule that a prima facie breach of privilege has occurred.
    And then, yes, it makes it so.

  • hollinm

    You are right. By the way Ignatieff is being a little loose with the truth. There was no vote on the contempt. It is only in his own mind and those of the Liberal persuasion on this blog.

  • Thwim

    Unless you for some reason believe that this is the first minority government ever, I think the "first time in history" thing is actually pretty significant.

  • Poker Face

    Ignatieff's caught in a squeeze play between a resurgent NDP, and an incredibly strong Conservative Party. Expect to see a different Liberal leader after this election.

  • OriginalEmily1

    LOL you chose your name well. 'Deadpan' would have worked too.

  • Just Joe

    "Incredible" is the correct adjective — not credible.

  • Franz

    LMAO…NDP support: a mile wide and 2mm deep…

  • OriginalEmily1

    Oh puleeze…it's just a phrase from an old song.

  • chet

    Aaron,

    very astute.

    And a very painful analysis to our Liberal friends here, judging by their responses.

    Well done sir.

  • shouldIsellyourwheat

    Parachute Club wrote a real Canadian anthem "Rise Up" in the eighties which has often been used by the NDP, and I think even by Jack Layton. I think the writers of "Rise Up" from Parachute Club, even wrote Jack Layton a song for his leadership campaign.

    Ignatieff certainly doesn't know his Canadian culture if he has to import American references to make a point. His touchstones are American references, NOT Canadian ones. He doesn't know our history and culture because he was not here for our history and culture.

  • burlivespipe

    After Yoko's slapdown I'm surprised any CONbot is interested in talking music. I guess being tone deaf goes well with bitter koolaid.

  • OriginalEmily1

    Well apparently swiping a song and breaking copyright to sell your campaign is okay….quoting one line from a song as a speech hook is not. Go figure.

  • Jan

    Really hard to top Harper singing – using the term loosely – Lennon's Imagine while using a child as a prop.
    Iggy really does have some rising to do to catch up to that.

  • chet

    You know, Iggy can sound passionate when he wants to.

    That CPC ad featuring Iggy saying straight to his fellow Americans "It's your country as much as it is mine" reminded me of that "passion".

    I suspect it also takes a lot of what you would call that same "passion" to not show up to vote (in a parliament we're all to be oh so respectful of, lest we show "contempt" towards it) 70% of the time.

    What you would call "passion" I'd say many Canadians would call a deep seeded opportunistic self interest.

  • chet

    As for for our sometimes parliamentarian (sometimes being a mere fraction of the whole he tacitly promised his constituants who put him in power to vote for them)

    who continually screeches "contempt of parliament"

    most Canadians know it isn't "parliament" as a whole, for the largest block in parliament is the CPC themselves, but rather contempt for the opposition, with the largest block being the Liberals.

    Canadians can easily translate that into a charge by Iggy that Harper is being contemptuous of the Liberals.

    While Iggy no doubt holds himself (and perhaps his party) in incredibly high esteem, polls show voters do not.

    And therein lies the self fulfilling failure of Iggy's grand campaign theme.

  • chet

    A Liberal speaker you mean.

    Canadians are a lot smarter than that.

    "Vote for the Liberals because Harper was contemptuous of the Liberals" was a campaign theme doomed from the start.

    Doomed because it smacked of the self aggrandizing belief in entitlement to power that the Liberals have long been known for.

  • is it impossible for you to keep it to one message? Or is your strategy to fill up space?

  • Thwim

    Actually, their actions show contempt of the institution in its entirety. The instruction manual on blocking committees is proof of that.

  • Jan

    Who are you going to attack next, chet, the Auditor General?

  • illbethejudge

    A Liberal speaker elected by Conservatives. A Liberal speaker who is beyond reproach and has been completely non-partisan in his role, whether he was the Speaker for Liberal or Conservative governments. You know I have been limiting my disgust and criticism to this government and not to the people who ignorantly support it. But, I am fed up with nonsense like this. You Chet, are beneath contempt. You have no more respect for the Canadian institution of Parliament than your contemptible leader. I have just hit my tipping point. I was NEVER going to vote Conservative, but was really waffling among all the Opposition parties. Well congratulation Chet. You and your pal Steve with your arrogant dismissal of all that I hold dear in my country have just won the Liberals my vote. Democracy does matter to me. Parliament does matter to me. I consider any Opposition party much better to protect that on my behalf. But, I don't see any entitlement in the Liberal party anymore and I think it's time to give them another chance. The Conservatives have had their chances. They have treated my money and my country with more disrespect than I have EVER experienced under any government.

  • Just Joe

    Well, In a robotic sort of way.

  • Atchison

    How many bloggers does Maclean's need on this non-story? or Should I say how much press does Michael Ignatieff need to not make a difference?

  • hollinm

    Desperation thy name is Ignatieff. We now have our Howard Dean moment in Canadian politics. Now we hear the big guns are coming out to help.The two adscamers will be campaigning for Ignatieff. It didn't help last time and it won't help this time. In fact it may hurt the Libs.
    Ignatieff bombed in the debates. The party is going no where in the polls and his leadership numbers are below Layton. The professor was in his glory in Sudbury. However, most Canadians are in no mood for an Ignatieff as PM. They simply ignore him and wait for May 2nd to confirm their dislike for the arrogant elitist who pretends he cares about Canada.

  • hollinm

    Igantieff's supposed faux outrage is only in his own mind. Like most things Liberals do is they go over the top in their rhetoric and therefore people just discount the comments.
    Funny Ignatieff can't win because of his own leadership ability and policies. He can only personally attack the Prime Minister. Funny how that works when you are losing the battle.

  • hollinm

    Oh but you forget. Eggleton, Anne McClellan and Sgro were sighted for contempt but the committee which had a Liberal majority exhonorated them. Sorry Emily.

  • LeDa88

    Chretian shut down committees and inquiries. Come on, if it needed to be done to hide Liberal transgressions it was done – many times. Can you say Somalia for starters.

  • OriginalEmily1

    LOL yes, of all the songs for Harp to be singing.

    Shoulda been the Volga boat song or something.

  • lgarvin

    You're going to have to choose between "it never happened" or "It doesn't matter that it happened." When you keep switching back and forth between the two it tends to undermine your credibility.

    It did happen & it does matter.

  • BCVoiceOfReason

    Not any links from here to the video?

    Good reason as the write up is far better in Mr. Wherry's imagination,

    It was embarrassing. The crowd was embarrassed for Ignatieff and clapped politely as the handlers made them stand up after the 4th or 5th rise up out of Ignatieff.

    The Liberal campaign is in "well nothing else is working" mode so what if we lose a bit worse.

  • just sayin'

    Given the choice between the hope of 'Rise Up' and the fear of the-end-of-the-world-if-I-don't-get-a-majority, I'll take Rise Up!

  • chet

    Thanks Kate.

    While the video as a whole was comedy gold,

    the two older gentlemen behind Iggy, reluctantly standing up after the sixth or seventh screech to "rise up"

    priceless.

  • http://www.smalldeadanimals.com Kate

    Hey, if he's quoting Bruce Springsteen, at least he's got the right crowd demographic.

  • FVerhoeven

    Now that I've seen the actual video of the event, it's worse than I expected. His handlers should have given him some water when Ignatieff needed it. Oh, man, this does not look good.

    Has CBC aired it??? If CBC has not aired it then it's not good news for Iggy.

  • zoop

    Its funny to read this account after actually seeing Ignatieff’s speech.

    Talk about turd polish.

  • catherine

    Hey, that started a bit abruptly and ended even more abruptly. How about an unclipped version so we can judge for ourselves, rather than being spoon fed CPC gruel?

  • Jim

    Ask Aaron Wherry for a longer clip, he's the blogger who seems to have a tingle up his leg.

  • zoop

    For some reason the full clip wasn’t aired on CPAC, and their website excludes Ignatieff’s leaders tour from April 15 entirely. This short clip is the only thing I could find.

    Something tells me the speech was embarrassing for Ignatieff and someone at CPAC was convinced to bury the speech.

    Mr. Werry does a fine job of re-imagining what may have been a very different speech.

    Somebody post the entire speech, please.

  • jonatwitan

    spoon fed CPC gruel? And what is it that you call Wherry's piece again?

  • TangoJuliette

    "My City in Ruins," sound like the Mickster is singing a loser's lament for his city, Librano Toronto – a.k.a. "Fort Apache – The Bronx"

  • catherine

    Okay, found one on the LPC site: http://www.liberal.ca/#media

    Ignatieff is exactly right. Lol, the CPCer who posted the clipped version cut out all the stuff about why we need to rise up – don't they like hearing a list of the things Harper has actually done?

    Damn right, Canadians deserve a lot better than Harper has been dishing out.

  • Atchison

    "the CPCer who posted the clipped version cut out all the stuff about why we need to rise up "

    Ignatieff blathers about that constantly. The point of the clip is that his supporters aren't responsive to his rabble rousing.

  • Harper is a liar

    very astute? I was leaning towards pontificating a-hole myself.

  • AnnoyedCanuck

    It may surprise you, but there are people out there who put principles, values and beliefs before things like money and personal gain. Springsteen, for example, supported Obama and lost a lot of fans as you noted; do you honestly believe that his PR team and record label-wanting to protect profits- wouldn't have warned him and tried to dissuade him from publicly endorsing one politician over another? You bet they would have. And he supported Obama regardless. I think it is the same thing here. Many individuals based in the entertainment industry-whether in the States or our home-are not exactly the biggest fans of conservative politics, let alone ideologues like Mr. Harper, Mr. Bush, Mr. McCain and Co. Lennon's widow, who pulled Harper's rendition of Imagine as a copyright infringement, for example, is known to stop right leaning politicians from using his music; as I'm sure you recall, in the last American election, several artists publicly called out Republicans for using their music. In Canada, some of our most talented musicians (like Arcarde Fire, who won this year's Grammy for best album) are also publicly endorsing anyone BUT Harper. So let's sit back, and see how this plays out. In the mean time, you're welcome to continue using Nickleback etc for the Conservative campaign. It would only be one of many crimes against humanity committed by the right in our nation.

  • Peter

    It doesn't matter if it happened or not, the entitled libranos are going nowhere again. Who will the corporate lawyers of montreal and Toronto tap as their next proxy for re-entry to the trough? Got to be getting a little lean for the entitled, highborn, parasitic maggots which infect those cities like lice.

  • maudie

    Is it any use explaining to someone like you that the 70% was made necessary by the endless lies Harper's attack ads have spread about Ignatieff? That going to where the people are, with the courage to answer our questions, is Ignatieff's way of debunking those lying ads? (And that while he was gone, deputy leader Ralph Goodale held the fort?)

  • illbethejudge

    I wish someone would leak one of the emails that you people who get talking points for social media sites get.
    Dear Friend: please get on to every news site and repeat the following thoughts. Try to put them in your own words a little bit so they're not word for word.
    Clearly they threw it out quickly this time. The only word any of you can manage is desperation.
    if you think standing up for democracy is desperate….well, i guess that would make you a Stephen Harper Conservative.

  • brooster2

    "However, most Canadians are in no mood for an Ignatieff as PM."

    According to all available polls, most Canadians aren't in the mood for anyone currently on offer as PM.

  • Poker Face

    They don't have to win seats to spoil the party.

  • chet

    [youtube tZ25vb2cXKY&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZ25vb2cXKY&feature=related youtube]

  • lgarvin

    If you're getting minimum wage for this stuff, you're overpaid. Better step it up, Peter, there are thousands of C students looking for part-time jobs..

  • OriginalEmily1

    Yes, he shut down the Somalia inquiry. I can't think of anything else, so you'll have to source it.

  • LeDa88

    It is significant in the fact that the opposition would abuse the power they had for crass opportunism. Spending estimates are that – estimates. No matter what the Conservatives said, the opposition could say not good enough. To go for a contempt of parliament charge is scandalous in the fact it shows how little regard the opposition has for our institutions and to force an election on it to boot. If they form government as a group who lost the election with the support of the Bloq, they will truly show their contempt for the country and the Canadian taxpayer (because taxes will go through the roof to pay for their pie in the sky policies and also their Bloq support fee). Anyone that thinks this is an acceptable outcome to the election, needs to have their head examined. This will look like an undemocratic seizure of power, from the bogus contempt charge to defeating the throne speech. They didn't even read the budget.

  • madeyoulook

    Which, for better or for worse, suits Harper's chances just fine.

    I'm still keeping most of my chips on the "Stronger Harper Minority but no Majority" square.

  • Thwim

    You really think stronger? Given the watershed lows that were hit by Dion? From what I've seen, the Liberal base is far more energized this election cycle, and the CPC base less enthused. I still don't think it'll be enough to move to Liberal minority, but I don't expect that Mr. Harper will be making any gains.

    I've seen nobody come out and say, 'I didn't vote CPC last time but I will this time.' I've seen a few saying "Dammit, can't bring myself to vote for them again."

    Similarly, I haven't seen any people claim they voted Liberal previously and won't be doing so now. While I have seen a few folks saying, "I'm considering holding my nose and voting Liberal this time."

  • KeithBram

    1) They did read the budget – in the lockup before its release and certainly since (looking for holes to pick at during the election campaign).

    2) In a sense, it's irrelevant whether they read it or not, since they defeated the government on contempt.

    3) If Harper didn't want this election, he would have produced the requested documents. He pushed them into a corner where they had little choice but to call the election or lose what remaining respect their constituents had for them (having backed down too many times before). Harper thought he smelled a majority but knew if he pulled the plug as he did in 2008 it would slip away again. This gave him what he wanted – and in time to escape the damage of the upcoming trials and what many suspect will be a very critical final report from the AG.

  • KeithBram

    And John Lennon took out Canadian citizenship… when, exactly?

  • KeithBram

    He's going for right-wing, free-form poetry. Not succeeding, though…

  • Holly Stick

    Yo heave ho!

    ROTFLMAO Time to heave out the yoyos!

  • Holly Stick

    Yeah, why doesn't Harper sing the song Lenon recorded in Canada – All we are saying is give peace a chance.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNU7jb1Syjs&fe…

  • OriginalEmily1

    LOL I worry that's what Harper sees Canadians doing…mindless drudgery

  • Olivier

    Preaching to the choir won't help, no matter how strongly he feels about the issue.

    It's sad but true (to quote a Metallica song)

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