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Stephen Harper is winning (UPDATED with late-breaking uncertainty)

by Paul Wells on Monday, April 25, 2011 9:30am - 268 Comments

I haven’t written about polls much here on the blog during this campaign. I take polls as significant but transient: they give useful information about the state of play today, but of course the state of play can change. Trends need time to change, however, so the closer you get to election day, the less time trends have to change. You can load a .pdf of all that here.

Salient points:

• The Conservatives have polled above their 2008 election-day share of the national popular vote on every day of this campaign. The stability of the Conservative vote is simply extraordinary. It went from roughly 29% to 36% over the Christmas holidays in 2005-06, notched up a couple of points in 2008, and is now a couple of points higher. That growth is very slow but as a rule of thumb, it doesn’t reverse.

• Regional numbers have bounced around more than that, but not really all that much. The Conservatives have been trending down in Quebec, where they don’t have all that much to lose; arguably trending up in Atlantic Canada, where they haven’t got loads to gain; and recovering from a mid-campaign slump in Ontario. The Liberals trended up fairly steadily in Ontario for the first week, held steady for a while, and have been declining since April 11, the day of the English-language leaders’ debate.

• “Slump” is relative: the Conservatives have polled below their 2008 election-day share of the Ontario popular vote precisely once, on April 13. (Yeah, yeah, it’s a tracking poll, so that’s the day the slump of the previous couple of days was reported. Yeesh. Sticklers.) They’ve been above 2008 levels in the most seat-rich province for the rest of the campaign.

• The Conservatives are polling 9 points higher than their 2008 score in Ontario, the Liberals 5 points lower than their own 2008 level, and the NDP a point lower than theirs. Even with a few losses in Quebec, that will surely be enough to put Harper within a few seats of his majority. My hunch is it puts him over the top.

• Oh-ho! But if he misses his majority, don’t opposition parties have a shot at taking him out in a Parliamentary confidence play? Only if they can present a coherent alternative. Jack Layton will have a really good Tuesday night if he wins, say, 70 seats, but he’ll have a hard time presenting for prime minister. And the more he grows, the more he’ll want a say in the composition of any Liberal-led coalition-collaboration-thingie. Opposition deadlock, to Harper’s advantage, seems likely even if Harper falls just short of a majority.

• But here’s what’s most striking. What’s the biggest obstacle to a really transformative NDP breakthrough? It’s Ontario. NDP support there is 4 points lower than in the Atlantic, 7 points lower than in the Prairies, 10 points lower than in British Columbia, 13 points lower than in Quebec. This is looking less like a Quebec-led NDP wave than like a national wave from which Ontarians are opting out. Ontario is the only region of the country where NDP support is no higher than on the day of the English-language debate.

• Why? My strong suspicion is that Bob Rae’s 1990-95 government has left a lingering bad taste in the mouths of many Ontarians who might otherwise consider an alternative. When I test-flew this hunch on Twitter this morning, some people wondered why Ontarians would be generically mad at New Democrats after Rae, and not at Conservatives after Mike Harris. Well. Leave aside any subjective evaluation of the quality of the two provincial governments, because that would just cause pointless shouting matches (No, your guy sucked worse). Look at the numbers. Bob Rae’s NDP lost nearly 18 points of popular vote to lose with 20.6% of the vote in 1995. Ernie Eves’ post-Harris took an 11-point reduction to lose with 34.6% of the popular vote in 2003. That is a much less severe rebuke from voters. Since their respective losses, the provincial Conservatives have more or less stabilized, while the provincial NDP is, I’m sorry, a basket case. I haven’t heard anecdotes from the door in this election, but in other recent federal elections, federal New Democrats were still getting their ears bent by voters about Rae Days. The man may have moved on; the brand is still in difficulty.

• Still, my explanation for the NDP’s much weaker showing in Ontario can only be conjecture. The facts are stark. The Harper Conservatives are in good position to improve their showing in this election. I’d appreciate a fact-check on this, but I believe that in so doing he would become the first prime minister since Confederation to increase his seat standing three elections in a row. (UPDATE: good thing I asked. Colleague Coyne reminds me that Wilfrid Laurier went from 118 seats in 1896, to 132 in 1900, to 139 in 1904. The Liberals grew from 1963 to 1965 to 1968, but they had to change leaders to do it.) If he does not win a majority he will probably face a divided opposition poorly positioned to take power from him through parliamentary manoeuvring.

This can all change. But the most important feature – steady support for the Conservatives – has now held for four-fifths of this campaign.

UPDATE, Monday evening: Ekos has numbers so different from Nanos‘ that you can argue all night over who’s right!

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  • http://auditorydamage.livejournal.com auditorydamage

    The only thing that could possibly surprise me is if the election outcome comes close to reflecting the overall will of the voters. Doesn't it strike anyone else as supremely flawed that national support levels of 40% can result in an overwhelming majority of seats in the legislature? How else could the Liberal party have ruled unopposed for over a decade? How else can anyone talk of Stephen Harper gaining an unstoppable majority when well over half of voters would not choose his party or his ideology?

    First-past-the-post needs to go. Australian-style instant runoff voting, proportional representation, mixed-member proportional, dumping the unelected Senate and replacing it with a proportional-representative body, dumping representative federal democracy as a whole and moving to various forms of local and regional direct democracy… we need to improve on this rotting mess of a system if the growing number of people dissatisfied with the present structure are to have any reason to feel empowered.

    • hosertohoosier

      There is no way to fix that problem. We could switch to a PR/MMP system, but it also has problems. Since it is very hard for one party to win a majority in a PR/MMP system, the government and its program actually get put together after the vote. So votes are proportional, but less meaningful.

      And anyway, 40% is not that bad, when you consider that many may have the government as their second choice, and that some voters approve of the government but support other parties (eg. right track/wrong track polls tend to show a majority of support for the way things are going in Canada).

  • TimesArrow

    I don't put much stock in polling[ particuarly after Gregg's comments].Nonetheless it is interesting to speculate what if.

    Would the libs dare enter a coalition after Ignatieff ruled it out? Does it actually count when you are no longer the senior partner? If he says no will the party ditch him?

    The libs could still work with each party on an issue by issue basis. The howler being the never likely even for a moment considered the possibility it would be from the bottom of the heap, not from second.

    Unreal! Still, kingmaker might sound better than coalitionist liar? Better for the long term health of the party too.

    If this were to pan out i'd be torn badly. IMO Harper is unworthy of his office – the man's a pathological liar. But Jack has some seriously unproven ideas. His promise to do what 5 previous PMs have been unable to do – get Q to sign the consititution is frankly bizarre…at least the question at what cost to Canada should be seriously posited. Hard times if you're a liberal like me.

    • MTB

      If Jack becomes leader of the official opposition, I don't think we'll need to worry much about what Iggy will do vis a vis the opposition. I suspect Iggy won't be around long enough to be put in that position.

  • Everyday Normal Guy

    +1

  • Layton Mania!

    Why would any Canadian in their left mind vote NDP?!…

    A party who has forced MEDICARE on every CDN?, only people who can pay out of their own pockets wile bleeding to death in a ditch should be able to get medical treatment or too bad!…

    A party whose founder Tommy Douglas was voted the GREATEST CANADIAN in the history of our country!, who does he think he is?!…

    A party who cares about the people?!?!, forget the people!, what about the oil companies, banks & big corporations?!, their only making millions in profits!, crap I'm out of bread & water again…

    A leader who thinks the credit card companies are charging us to much interest?!, who cares if Canadians are drowning themselves in dept!, keep the government out of the billionaires business!…

    I mean geeze baaa! The other parties & media etc keep telling me not to vote NDP baaa! they say the SKY WILL FALL! baaa! you'd be crazy baaa! to think for yourself! baaa! you know you can TRUST what baaa! the other parties tell you to FEAR baaa!.

    Baaa!…

    • Guest

      I get a little sick and tired of the Tommy Douglas idolatry from the NDP'ers. Douglas was a eugenicist for heaven's sake. Do some googling and Wise up!

  • Adios Liberals

    Ontarians pay enough tax and have a massive provincial debt to manage. we don't want good paying tax generating jobs in Mississauga to go south just because Ignatieff hates jets and Layton corporations

  • rightwingliberal

    Paul,

    Ekos is an "interactive poll," i.e., the respondents don't talk to an actual person. These kinds of polls are known to be unstable and unreliable. Zogby destroyed his reputation with these down here (he predicted a Kerry win in '04).

    Stick with the live-person interview polls.

  • nameless lurker

    LOUDER, i'm hard of hearing ….

  • val

    nothing ventured, nothing gained. It is about time we had a shake up in Candadian politics! Terese Casgrain will be loving this if she were here today!

  • albertan

    Read every nasty thing Harper has ever said about any of us: hundreds of pages compiled by his own party.
    https://www.webcargo.net/webcargo/d.php?x=2071066…

  • BMo

    I'm young enough to not know about Bob Rae in Ontario, but I'm old enough to remember the mess Mike Harris's PC's made of Ontario!!!

  • JamesHalifax

    I actually approve of the NDP surge in quebec. I'd rather have the socialists get a seat that the seperatists. It doesn't really matter, as both parties' are economic basket cases.
    That being said, the idea of a coalition is greatly reduced if Layton beats Iggy in the final tally.

  • Dot

    Joe Carbury would be proud. "And they're off"

  • eric84

    I think Paul Wells theory on the lack of an ON NDP surge only partially covers it. Yes, the 85-90 Bob Rae government has seriously damaged the party provincially and federally which still lingers. I would suggest though that Layton himself is a more known commodity in ON as a classic urban, left wing politician so his identity is cemented in the minds of ON voters more so than in places where his political history isn't as well known which lets Layton become a guy you can have a beer with in Quebec.

  • Mike

    First post!!!

    ….to mention that Angus Reid just blew the Paul Wells theory of how 2011 is going right out of the water. Looks like Ekos and Angus agree and Nanos is out of step with them.

    "I haven’t written about polls much here on the blog during this campaign". Great strategy. These change all the time and tend to change the moment someone points to any poll to reach a definitive conclusion. It's got to be a law or something

  • modster99

    I would have to disagree with you on this. As much as I hated the years that Chretien was in power, he was able to move the country in a certain direction. It works. We have over 30 million people in this country. If we had to make every decision with the support of all of them, we would never make a decision. Every person who advocates PR has good intentions, but the actual ramifications would be negative.

  • ajb

    The elegance of the Bob Rae explanation for the NDP's non-surge in Ontario is that it doubles as an explanation for the Liberal decline.

  • s_c_f

    I think that at this moment in time, Ontarians are a little tired of leftist politics. On the provincial front, they're tired of Mcquinty and the ever-rising electricity bills. And in Toronto, everybody knows how the GTA went strongly for Ford, after the debacle of the city workers' strike last summer, the piling up of garbage everywhere only to see Miller cave in the end, and the imposition of new taxes by Miller. So I think there is a strong surge towards fiscal conservatism right now in Ontario, primarily in the GTA.

  • ajb

    It's true that anyone who can vote for Rob Ford is unlikely to balk at voting for the federal Tories.

  • Style

    Chretien did it when he capped private donations and replaced them with the per vote subsidy. So, it's not impossible.

  • http://secondthots.blogspot.com Dennis_F

    I've been saying this for a couple of weeks. The Conservatives have never sustained this kind of high level of support for this long. They've been upwards of 40 percent since even before the election, and they haven't really gone down since. Everyone focuses on why they haven't gone up, but they already have, and have stayed there.

    Which also leads me to question some of these seat projectors. On the one hand, we have Tory support up from the last election. On the other hand, we have Liberal support down from the last election. Yet all these seat projections have Tories losing seats, and Liberals gaining seats. How in the world does that happen?

    Regarding regional breakdowns, are Mr. Wells' analyses based on Nanos polls, and aren't those regional numbers based on samples with very high margins of errors? I've said this before over and over. National polls give very poor regional breakdowns because of those margins of errors, yet these regional breakdowns are often given the same standing as national polls. Just another pet peeve of mine regarding Canadian politics.

  • http://secondthots.blogspot.com Dennis_F

    Which begs the question regarding regional breakdowns: Why don't more polling firms do proper regional polls? They only seem to be done for Quebec. Why? Why not full polls during elections for Ontario, the Prairies, BC, Atlantic Canada, or any other breakdown you want? Why this incessant reliance on national polls to give us regional numbers?

    Or why not regular polling for the 30 or so ridings that are considered crucial in this election? If the parties do them, why not private media polls, too?

    These are just a couple of suggestions to make polling more relevant and informative during a campaign.

  • Mike T.

    That was specifically designed to give Liberals the same amount of money, not reduce their money. I find your analogy suspect at best.

  • modster99

    and when exactly did Chretien do that?

  • hosertohoosier

    True, but the Rob Ford phenomena may not translate federally or provincially. Voter turnout is lower in municipal elections – only 814,000 people voted in 2010 (by way of comparison, I estimate that about 1,100,000 Toronto residents voted in 2008). In that sort of setting a motivated right can win.

  • John

    I find that most Canadians do not understand the Parliamentary system – neither the people, nor the party leaders. (Hence the concern about coalitions.) We have been too influenced by the American system. We behave like we have a presidential system – but don't have the US checks and balances.

    We should dump the parliamentary system.

  • Holly Stick

    No we should dump the wannabe Americanslike Harper who show so much contempt for Parliament.

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