No country for good men

There is no stronger indictment of Canada’s political class than the treatment of Michael Ignatieff

by Andrew Potter on Wednesday, May 4, 2011 3:53pm - 381 Comments

Perhaps the cliché has it right and all political careers end in failure. But few end as abruptly, and with as much a feeling of missed opportunity, as that of Michael Ignatieff.

There is no stronger indictment of Canada’s political class than the treatment of Michael Ignatieff during the years from 2005 to 2011. Never has such a torrent of abuse been poured on any Canadian figure; never have the small-town and the small-minded been so united as they were in their joint attack on the son of George Ignatieff, the best Governor General we never had.  His torment by the Tory gang of cynics and liars, egged on by party hangers-on and cheered, too often and by too many of us in the press, testifies to the ongoing suspicion Canadians have with leaders who exhibit a modicum of intelligence, accomplishment, and worldliness.

It is hard for me, now, to think myself back to the enthusiasm I initially felt at the prospect of his entry in Canadian politics. More than any one else, and for better or for worse, Michael Ignatieff is responsible for my career as someone trying to find a place somewhere between philosophy and politics, between academia and the journalism. Before I met Mark Kingwell, before I met Joe Heath, I was reading Ignatieff’s work. I was given a copy of Blood and Belonging in my last year of undergrad, and it struck me at the time as exactly the sort of writing I’d like to do. Ignatieff’s excellent 2000 Massey Lectures, The Rights Revolution, only cemented my belief that he was a smart man who had something to offer the world.

Yet while I admired his career path, I didn’t always love his ideas. Ignatieff’s writing was not always as coherent (or as “tightly argued”, as they like to say in philosophy departments) as it should have been. He tended to hem and haw, especially when it came to touchy subjects like torture and the war in Iraq, and his frequent inability to come out and say exactly what he thought and why ended up seeming less like journalistic even-handedness, more like intellectual indecision.

Funny story: When I was teaching at Trent University in the early 2000s, I had the luck to teach a course on the philosophy of law and rights, and I put Ignatieff’s new book, Human Rights as Politics and Idolatry, on the syllabus. It wasn’t a huge success, partly because the book’s argument has some serious flaws, but more because my students thought it was a species of right-wing American imperialist propaganda. Later that summer I was talking to a friend who had taught the same book to some students at a college in New York. He laughed and said that his students also hated the book, for the exact opposite reason: they dismissed it as mushy-headed Canadian left-liberalism.

I’ve tried, on occasion, to mine from that anecdote a parable that will help explain precisely why Ignatieff’s eventual return to Canada was greeted with such immediate suspicion, even both those who might have been expected to welcome him. But the moral, if there is one at all, is simply that Canada and the US are different countries with substantially different political cultures, and that jumping into the former after marinating for decades in the latter was always going to be far harder than anyone, not least of all Michael Ignatieff, might have anticipated.

And that isn’t taking into consideration just how poisonous our political culture is. In the summer of 2005, I wrote an essay for the National Post that tried to frame Ignatieff’s return to Canada against the Liberal Party’s desperate search for a saviour “philosopher king” in the Trudeau mold. The piece was over-thought and over-written in bunch of ways, but I did flag two problems I thought he would face. The first was what became known as his “pronoun problem” – his habit of saying “we” when talking to both Canadian and American audiences.

The story of Ignatieff’s failure to properly deal with this issue is one major piece of the puzzle of why he went to such jaw-dropping defeat this week. For two years, the Conservatives hammered the airwaves with attack ads accusing him of being not really Canadian, someone who was “just in it for himself.” Someday we might get an explanation from the Liberal camp about why they allowed those charges to go unanswered for so long, and why they were never able to come up with a decent counter-narrative, a positive story that would place Michael Ignatieff’s return to Canada within the broader frame of his earlier career as a self-pronounced cosmopolitan, a global traveler and thinker whose interests for so long seemed to lie anywhere but within his home country.

But this points to a second piece to the puzzle, and that is the fact that the Liberal Party of Canada is a complete disaster, and has been for some time. It was mid-way through Jean Chretien’s second term that people started to point out that the party had no real identity, no sense of purpose other than power for its own sake. And so Michael Ignatieff’s failure to tell a plausible story about his own candidacy for prime minister was the precise mirror of the party’s own existential conundrum: The Liberal Party of Canada has no idea why it exists, so it is hardly surprising that they settled on a leader who didn’t seem to have any idea why he was here.

What is so remarkable about Ignatieff’s tenure as Liberal leader, and with this past election campaign in particular, is how little he tried to take advantage of intellectual strengths and interests. Confronted with a cartoonishly small-minded prime minister acting as chief puppeteer over a caucus of frat boys, yes men, and idiocrats, surely there was an opportunity for a leader who would speak to those Canadians who see themselves as responsible citizens of the world. We spent much of the 2000s telling ourselves that “the world needs more Canada”, and if anyone embodied that slogan, it was Michael Ignatieff.

But instead, the Liberals spent Ignatieff’s leadership playing along with the Conservatives’ completely un-serious approach to foreign affairs. Here’s something a friend send me during the campaign:

It’s pretty weird: Here’s Ignatieff, whose life has been devoted to precisely the challenges and  “foreign policy” nuances that are front and centre in everything that’s happening of any consequence in the world today, in the so-called Muslim world. If he weren’t running for the prime minister’s job in Canada, he’d be one of the few go-to guys in the English speaking world on Egypt, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, the latest Hamas-Fatah deal. . . . and here we are in the middle of a Canadian federal election, with all these issues that make Ignatieff look totally world-class and massively relevant, and which make the Tories look stupid but make the NDP look infinitely worse, and we’re not supposed to notice that any of it is even happening. Like it’s an election for the Orillia school board.

Why did Michael Ignatieff – or more plausibly, the people helping devise his political brand and their electoral strategy – stay as far as possible from these issues? Probably because they believe that Stephen Harper actually has us pegged, that we are a nation of Tim Horton’s-addicted moral suburbanites for whom that “the world needs Canada” was always just a slogan for selling books and lattes to the elites downtown. But if the Liberals are afraid to speak to their natural constituency in their native tongue, and if their leader’s CV is largely a cause for quiet embarrassment, what does that say about the party, or the country?

Here are the closing paragraphs of my 2005 essay on Ignatieff:

In a profile published in these pages [National Post] back in April, Tony Keller suggested Ignatieff’s views could be “a bracing tonic for the Canadian body politic.” He would lead us out of our smug anti-Americanism and help us accept our global responsibilities.

This is doubtful. More likely, this sort of thinking will be rejected by the Canadian political immune system. Whether it is about health care, missile defence or the war on terror, Canadians are incapable of having an adult discussion, and woe to any politician who dares do anything so radical as obey reason. Our political discourse takes place in a dogma-addled environment that would swallow up an intellectual alien like Ignatieff, and it would be a shame to see him forced to mouth the banalities that are required for survival in Canadian federal politics.

Immanuel Kant was right when he opposed the notion of the philosopher king, on the grounds that “the possession of power is inevitably fatal to the free exercise of reason.” We should certainly be wary of any philosopher who would be king. But in the case of Michael Ignatieff, he should be wary of us.

Watching Michael Ignatieff resign yesterday, it was hard not to be moved by his parting hope that there might be someone watching, maybe a woman, who is looking at him and saying, “he didn’t make it, but I will.” But is there any chance of that? Having seen how Michael Ignatieff was treated, can any reasonably intelligent and ambitious person be ever expected to go into national politics?

As Michael Ignatieff’s uncle, George Grant, once wrote about John Diefenbaker: Nothing in his political career became him like the leaving of it.

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  • Ken B

    "Never has such a torrent of abuse been poured on any Canadian figure"
    Google hilter+harper

    • daphne

      Also check anything written or said about Stephen Harper by Heather Mallick, Margaret Atwood, Judy Rebbick, and Elizabeth May.

  • edong

    Ignatieff and his Liberals were just stupid enough to call an election about nothing. Be careful what you asked for.

  • http://oldruminator.ca Ruminator

    I can't stand this ivory tower pseudo-intellectual nonsense any longer. Where's Mark Steyn?

    • WibbleWobble

      He was just just vistin' buddy.

  • Blacktop

    Stephen, what a piece of crap. Ignatief never had what it takes and your remarks about Harper are childish and vindictive.

    The attack ads were QUOTES from his ill-thought-ot statements if he ever pictured himself coming back to Canada. The truth is that he had given up a future in Canada and saw himself as an American until the Rainmaker enticed him to fill the vacuum after the defeat olf Paul Martin. Dion was ineffectual and doomed to go down, And Ignatieff stepped in without even a leader's convention. The so-called contempt that he accused Harper of was the normal operation of a majority government and the Liberals were masters at it – obfuscation. The Liberal government in majority was a dictatorship by Trudeau and Chretien. , .

    • gertrude

      Who is Stephen?

  • fedup47

    I seem to recall we once had a Liberal prime minister who was supposedly intelligent, worldly, and successful. He did a lot for eastern Canada. However, he did so at the expense of western Canada. We have him to thank for the fact a unilingual western Canadian can no longer get a federal government job but someone from Quebec can even though their english is often not even comprehensible. We have him to thank for high taxes, bloated government, Quebec seperatism and many more things. I, for one, think Iggy was of the same ilk . Good riddance liberal phonies. Was the attack ad showing Iggy saying he was not going to take a GST hike off the table not true? I don't think so. That wasn't what a lot of Canadians wanted to hear. We are taxed to death in this country; particularly in B.C. where the provincial liberals want to tax someone $65, 000 for buying a $500,000 house.

    • gertrude

      If you speak English, you should know how to spell separatism. I dare say that anyone in Canada can work for the federal government if they speak both official languages. That is not a unique domain of Quebecers.

  • Jesse

    The problem with Ignatieff, is not necessarily that he is an academic, or a journalist: Trudeau was both, as well. It is that he spent most of his adult life outside of Canada either in England or teaching at Harvard of all places. To top it off, when he made comments like "Americans got to remember that this their country, it's my country to," it makes Ignatieff look even worse to the Canadian voting public, and makes him appear out of touch.
    The other problem is with the Liberal Party, acting as though it is the "natural party of government." Governing Canada is not the Liberal Party's God given right, although it acts as such. Years in the wilderness should humble the party. While Ignatieff can always find a job, and already has at the U of T, probably making more than the majority of Canadians; which it is hard to feel sympathy for him, or any other defeated Liberal MP that has just recieved a pension.

  • Basia9

    Where did you get this figure (42%) from?

    • OriginalEmily1

      StatsCan

      42 per cent of adults and 39 per cent of youth lack the literacy skills to get a good job and cope with the demands of today's knowledge society. StatsCan

  • blueambria

    Please, enough. I have been a long time participant in your surveys which have become obviously biased to the Liberals. This article is another example of the desperation in the left wing media and quite frankly makes me nauseous. Suck it up and get over it, give us a 5 minute break before you continue your juvenile petulance.

  • Katherine

    Next time when you write about political leadership try not to focus on a gender. I know men have always dominated political leadership, but it's really disappointing to see someone young perpetuate that notion.

    "No country for good men" is a ridiculous title. Why not just say "people"?

  • Pete E

    "Never has such a torrent of abuse been poured on any Canadian figure". Clearly you slept though the tenure of Preston Manning and Stockwell Day…and were selectively awake during that of Stephen Harper, Bev Oda, etc.

    "…Never have the small-town and the small-minded been so united". It takes a special form of oblivious chutzpah to bemoan the loss of decorum of political rivals while using "small-town" as an epithet.

    Other than that, I agree…especially with the 2005 analysis. Ignatieff's problem is that we hoped he would be the philosopher king. We hoped he could give the Liberals a well considered identity.

    Instead he jumped right into gutter politics for the short term headline. (remember wafergate, busty hookers and more recently expelling the person involved with the busty hookers?) Ultimately, he met his political end while screaming of the death of democracy based mainly on the formatting of a memo that removed funding from a questionable "aid" group.

  • http://ragingranter.blogspot.com Raging_Ranter

    More likely, this sort of thinking will be rejected by the Canadian political immune system. Whether it is about health care, missile defence or the war on terror, Canadians are incapable of having an adult discussion, and woe to any politician who dares do anything so radical as obey reason. Our political discourse takes place in a dogma-addled environment that would swallow up an intellectual alien like Ignatieff, and it would be a shame to see him forced to mouth the banalities that are required for survival in Canadian federal politics.

    Truer words have seldom been spoken. Not just about Ignatieff, but about any politician smart enough to actually discuss policy and propose new ideas. And Ignatieff certainly did become adept at dumbing himself down and mouthing banalities. Too adept.

  • lMary

    Andrew Potter, THANK YOU for a most intelligent discussion that goes to the very heart of the philosophical drama now being played in our Parliamentary Democracy.

    Mr. Ignatieff had a great opportunity to promote his global diplomatic, journalistic, intellectual and cosmopolitan skill. These are the very skills that are needed by the Tim Hortons crowds—in order to survive in this global economy. I always thought we'd see another Pearson, even though I think his pro-iraq war stand was 'spinned' and, ironically, used against him by a Petty Dictator and his frat-boys who didn't even own a Passport!
    I have voted for every party (except Bloc) in the last few decades. I feel the NDP has a viable role to play to tame the extremist Tea Party urges of our current democratic Circus on the Hill. But I feel sad that Canadians didn't see Michael Ignatief as the leader we needed to survive the economic onslaught that's about to begin under Harper's regime the next four years.

  • lMary

    Again, thank you for a most interesting article, Andrew, and I enjoyed the reference to Kant….a long-ago favourite of mine, and one of the most difficult ones to master.

    A question: If the NDP and Liberals had worked TOGETHER, cooperatively like Pearson and Tommy Douglas, would not a rebirth for Democracy and Canada itself be in the cards? After all, 61% of Canadians voted *NOT* for the CRAP Party (Conservative Reformist Alliance)! Give us credit, eh!

    Unfortunately, the FOX News Rush Limbaugh-Glenn Beck xenophobic, misogynist, homophobic parochial mentality is in vogue now….and the Farce that's Canadian Democracy has begun…

    Immanuel Kant's Categorical Imperative will surely be revised after this Election. But correct me here, as the bunch ruling the Hill now would *NOT* ever consider asking a question of what would be "good for all of us". It's "what keeps my party in power" and to Hades with practising admirable Ethics with the dumb masses that voted for us, eh!

    Welcome to Harper's Hobbesian jungle on the Hill….

    • Blacktop

      Oh Save me from this BS. The main problem is that this country gradually became the property of the near-left or the left, mainly through the influence of the 40's mandariins. I suspect the government of just right of centre will survive long enough for thw swelling demographic opf baby boomers to move towards the conservative view. of life as always happens – left wing in youth, centre in middle age and mildly conservative in older age. In my eighties I have been there and done that and It is not untypical.
      IMary should read Rawls if she wants idealism.

  • http://N/A Stone

    Ignatieff / Harper – both are NWO tools of implemantating a WORLD GOVERNMENT. Neither are good for Canada.

  • Anonymous

     I will not NEVER vote for the Harper machine.

  • Anonymous

     I will not NEVER vote for the Harper machine.

  • Greg McGinnis

    I don’t know Ignatieff, but he struck me as arrogant and inauthentic (sorry, I know authenticity is a hoax, but it’s the best word).  Same problem Mitt Romney has, and Al Gore had when he ran. 

    Elections are less about “tightly reasoned” ideas than who we like and trust.  Sorry, that’s democracy.  Same thing everywhere.

    Eggheads don’t seem to like actual democracy because they don’t get  the deference they think they deserve for being so intelligent and well educated.

  • avr

    When your second paragraph starts lamenting the electorate's resistance to "the son of George Ignatieff, the best Governor General we never had"…that's where it gets insulting.

    Were we supposed to bow and scrape for the pseudo-nobility appointed by (heh) deep thinkers like yourself, out of their sheer inborn superiority? Were we to worship the offspring of your hero, the captain of your fantasy baseball team, just because he seemed witty and oh-so-self-satisfied? And the claiming of joint victimhood as a fellow misunderstood genius of the Intellectual Class, whose brilliance just isn't appreciated, dammit by the drooling lumpenproles, bedazzled as they are by Tory half-truths and gorilla dust? Yikes.

    My God, get over yourself. Ignatieff was a terrible candidate whose arrogance and impatience with voters was palpable.His vision of Canada was one not actually inhabited by actual Canadians with jobs and mortgages and kids and expenses, but some kind of glorious candyland of the mind, where Deep Thoughts could be considered in a void. He was rejected because that smug sense of superiority was off-putting, and he was an empty shell without it.

    Cry about it all you like; your tears are delicious.

  • jonatwitan

    This is, truthfully, a fair counterpoint.

  • Menth

    Wow, I wish to extend my sincere thanks for nailing on the head exactly what I thought of this piece and saving me the work of typing it out myself.

    We live in a DEMOCRACY people, that includes a vast majority of people who don't read Foreign Policy magazine or follow their favourite pundits on Twitter. This column, while well written ultimately reflects the sad alienation and insularity of the author and others like him. Canadians missed out on someone who would have been "world-class" on foreign policy? You wanna know who doesn't give a s*&t about something like that? Someone who doesn't have a job or is scared of losing the one they have.

    And if you think Ignatieff is some foreign policy whiz try wading your way through as one author put it "the level 5 mind fog" that you get when you read his New York Times pieces in support of the Iraq war.

  • guest

    best. rebuke. ever.

    fire potter. hire this guy instead.

  • stacey

    I'm sorry, but do you have kids or a mortgage and are trying to figure out how to manage childcare and saving for university or college for those kids? The Ignatieff you're talking about — arrogant and impatient with voters, inhabiting candy land — wasn't on the campaign trail. He's in your decided mind of delicious hate tears. I was listening to what Ignatieff was actually saying and if you looked at the platform it had a lot to recommend it to those of us who really do have mortgages and kids and don't think income splitting that only benefits families in which one parent is making lots of money and the other parent is making much, much less money is a great policy platform for families

  • mwilliscroft

    Andrew, the point you are missing is that the Liberal defeat can't be blamed on Ignatieff being too smart for Canadians or slammed by insurmountable attack ads by the intellectually inferior other parties. A Prime Minister has to be able to connect with his electorate on some basic level and then be able to build a consensus using that connection. This is where Ignatieff and the Liberal Party has failed. The Liberal message for the last few decades — and your article does nothing but exemplify this — has been "we're intelligent and our leader is the most intelligent of the bunch, therefore, you should vote for us. If you don't like our message and you vote for one of the other guys, it's because you are not as smart as we are." This arrogance is pushed onto the public and supported by the same negative campaigning techniques as the other parties (i.e. Harper's secret plan to dismantle public health care, etc.). Hardly a way to connect and build a consensus amongst 30 million people.

  • M_A_D_world

    The Liberals will have three good years to get their brand back into a functional alternative of ideas. They need not worry about governing ( they lost), nor do they need to trouble themselves over the role of the official opposition ( they lost badly).
    It's three years to rework who and what they want to be. They also can learn to reach out to a grass roots movement for ideas and funds. After that they should be able to have a real leadership campaign to elect a leader who embodies their chosen direction.
    Or they can blame the old leader, the Prime Minister, voters, Quebec, Alberta, the Governor General, non-voters, media, social media, wiki-leaks or anyone else until all that marks them Liberal is their red enraged faces that they LOST with a bad platform, bad communication and a leader that didn't fit what his party decided to be.

  • Trudeau lover

    What utter rubbish! This reads like a spoiled, entitled, trudeauvian cultist who didn't get their way. Get over it Harry Potter, the Liberals lost. Pining for a warped, divisive, tribal, A-Hole like Trudeau shows Potters self professed intellectual superiority is as non existent as the assertions that Iggo was somehow treated unfairly.

  • Ethos

    That seems to be largely a parallel to the campaign the CPC ran though.

  • Shadowlands

    My question is where does intelligence fit in when we rack up the list of criminal, negligent, corrupt practices that Harper's government has indulged in these last few years and "Canadians" still voted him back into power. There are virtually unlimited numbers of reasons why what happened Monday occurred, but it's dismaying to see that "Canadians" didn't bother to pay attention to the offenses. I can't even begin to count the number of people who brought up the sponsorship scandal this election, despite the fact that the Conservatives have done the same – and worse – and BEEN CAUGHT doing it – and yet no one seemed to care. Or said that Harper was good for the economy despite the fact that he's proposing spending billions on jets and fighter planes…for what exactly? I don't think Iggy was a great leader, but I think a lot of people didn't spend a lot of time researching the leaders before they made up their minds at the polls. I still can't help but think people said "Harper's done well enough and he's stopped eating kittens…back in he goes."

  • Dan1

    What? "Secret" Harper plan to destroy public health care. Not-so-secret! Wait and see what this Tea Party PM will do to this country. I am not a Liberal and have voted for all other parties 'xcept Bloc. But I can give you a guarantee that Harper's Libertartian-Tea Party insticts will be dismantling Canada in the next 4 years, not so delicately as in the minority, either! He's in love iwth Privatized healthcare and Insurance middle men will be lobbying on the Hill in no time.
    He strated DEREGULATING the banks and financiall industry in '06-08 and had he been PM of Canada just FIVE 5 years earlier, we'd be doomed. Harper's a Republican at heart, a petty and vindictive, but smart tactician who has pushed Canadian civility to its bottom sewers and is the worst example for our kids growing up. Power for power's sake. Not even true to his own lifelong beliefs.
    65% of Yankees filed bankruptcy cause they couldn't pay their hospital bills! 0% zero percentage in Canada. This is about to change with this George Bush pale copy…not pretty for our future. Unless you have millions stashed up…Good Luck.

  • Holly Stick

    It's crap and should read more like this: 'Harper was a terrible candidate and PM whose arrogance and impatience with voters was palpable, except when he avoided Canadians like a coward for fear they would ask him a question.'

  • Holly Stick

    I think people who just read their local paper and watch TV and don't have time to seek out more information would not have heard that much about all the scandals. But the Harper Conservatives' vicious lying ads were all over the TV and the rightwing media constantly fawned on that vindictive creep and pretended he was economically competent, without noting how much of our money he stole to buy his lying ads with and wasted on photo ops of his ugly narcissistic face..

  • Esteban

    Nice article. I've always believed that of Canadians — we like to think we are more clever and more worldly than we are or care to be. Anyone who is gets treated as suspect.

  • tomkow

    Let me get this straight. You taught an Ignatieff book in a Philosophy class and *other* people should be ashamed of themselves?

  • Tybalt

    This is unmitigated garbage from start to finish.

    If you're looking for a leader with "a modicum of intelligence, accomplishment, and worldliness," I suggest you move on past Mr. Ignatieff, whose work is – almost without relent – an addled mess of high-school quotations and self-regarding claptrap about the crosses that intellectuals must bear.

    Michael Ignatieff – for all that he seems a decent enough bloke – is an unmitigated twit, who has done zero original work in politics, rights or jurisprudence and whose best qualification for the Prime Ministership is that he speaks well on TV. His list of meaningful accomplishments extends to the ability to use a blow-dryer.

    Writing a series of books with big, meaningful words in the title – FREEDOM AND FREEDOM or THE WARNESS OF WARTIME or HUMAN RIGHTS: DANGEROUS OR AWESOME? – is grand; but when it comes time to actually make meaningful policy proposals, or do an original study of the same, there is nothing. Vague, hand-waving waffle. It no more qualifies him for high office than an egg-sucking dog.

    My only disappointment with Michael Ignatieff, Prince of Egypt, is that he hasn't been kicked nearly hard enough on his way out.

  • Tybalt

    That was what stuck with me. Ignatieff has less rigor than a bowl of jello from the salad bar at Ponderosa.

  • s_c_f

    Ditto. I don't respect Potter enough to waste time rebutting his drivel. AVR did it well.

  • TimesArrow

    This post highlights perfectly the disconnect we all have with our rhetoric and reality. Since i'm a liberal i'll only point out my teams side of the equation. It is not hard to find one for the other sides either.
    It's somehow NOT ok to write an article condemning small minded parochial Canadians – i believe he was also talking about us as a people.[ and the liberal party establishment for differnt reasons] for dismissing out of hand anything MI had to offer, based not on winning any polemical debate, but merely cuz you think he's a pussy and a carpetbagger. [ after all those ads cost money. They had to be true] Cuz that just plain insults conservative minded, or non liberal voting Canadians somehow.
    But it IS ok to write a diatribe against MI based on name calling,innuendo, mindless assumptions about the life work and accomplishments of a man you' likely couldn't debate for 5 minutes; not likely without revealing that it isn't quite as easy peasy as just writing a moronic blog post @ macleans.ca.
    I rest my case m'lord.
    Unless of course you'd like to actually prove any of this? Y'know. With like evidence or something?Maybe go one on one with MI?

  • Harry P. Ness

    Hey Potter, take off the diapers and stop sucking your thumb. Entertaining read – that man crush you have for Iggy. Libs still don't understand that the political environment is competitive. They got complacent with a divided right in the Chretien time. Libs set the bar for toxic political environment for treatment of Day and Harper. Looking forward to watching Libs choose their next saviour without first understanding what they should offer the Cdn voters.

  • http://ragingranter.blogspot.com Raging_Ranter

    Never has such a torrent of abuse been poured on any Canadian figure…

    Apparently you weren't around for the 2004 election when the Liberals were successfully demonizing Stephen Harper. It's true, the campaign against Igniatieff was much longer and better organized, and ultimately more successful. But for pure viciousness, savagery and character assassination, I'll take the 2004 Liberal campaign any day.

  • Tybalt

    Potter can do as he likes, it's fine with me. I'm just pointing out that if he wants to somehow use Iggy's intellect as a stick to beat people with, there should be some actual stick there, not a floppy piece of soggy bacon. Iggy's a twit – his work has no rigor whatsoever (as Potter himself admits in the article) and he writes big doorstoppers laden with "on the one hand, on the other hand", regurgitating quotations from other writers as a substitute for any of his own analysis.

    His work on actual *policy* has been laughably inept (viz. his pathetic rationalizations for Iraq and then his risible attempt to cover up like a dog on a bare floor when he realized he'd been making howler after howler for 15 years).

  • http://ragingranter.blogspot.com Raging_Ranter

    But the Harper Conservatives' vicious lying ads were all over the TV and the rightwing media constantly fawned on that vindictive creep and pretended he was economically competent, without noting how much of our money he stole to buy his lying ads with and wasted on photo ops of his ugly narcissistic face..

    And there you have it. The voice of progressive Canada. Moderate. Compassionate. Socially conscious. Ready to lead Canada into the future. The future is bright.

  • TimesArrow

    Good post..lots of opportunity for the libs. SH gets to confirm our worst fears, and the NDP gets to prove it can be serious[ how's that going?] There's a world of opportunity for the libs to return. On the negative side of the ledger…the other guys might be good – bye bye LPC ????…AND even WORSE Dennis got reelected didn't he?

  • http://ragingranter.blogspot.com Raging_Ranter

    They really need to face up to their problems and rebuild. Much like the John Turner trouncing of 1984, they have been given a golden opportunity to do this. There was much talk in the 1980s of the NDP replacing the Liberals, but it never happened. It's much closer to happening now, but it hasn't happened yet. The Liberals have one more chance to rebuild. They need to appoint a leader, and keep him around and let him grow into the job.

    The Conservatives lost their first election in 2004. Got a minority the second time. Failed at their attempt for a majority the third time. And got their coveted majority the fourth try. Guess what they didn't do. They didn't change leaders. The Liberals have been electing weak leaders and changing them like socks every time they don't like the results. That needs to stop. Personally, I think they should have kept Ignatieff on. But of course, he knows damned well the knives are out for him. It is the Liberal party after all.

  • TimesArrow

    Fair enough. Then you have read and studied Ignatieff's work throughly have you? You are of course entittled to your opinion. I just wanted to point out how many of us conflate being bythely dismissive with some kind of moral conviction that they must be right and no other possibility exists for any deviation from the partisans gospel according to cognitative dissonance. For the record i didn't like MI either; i just hate intellectual bullying even more. SH has become the master now, when once he was the victim. And that's sad really all told.

  • JG1

    There's been so much posturing and postulating about intelligence or intellect and who most or best partakes of it and who doesn't, and why that's a good thing or not. Some people to the right of the political spectrum seem suspicious of, and sometimes downright hostile to anyone they believe might have a higher IQ than they do. Some people on to the left seem convinced that anyone doesn't possess more than an average amount of education or reasoning ability should be discounted from the political discourse.

    However, each side of the divides of both the political realm and IQ distribution seem to share a tendency to be sure that he or she or his or her self -identified cohort or community, or chosen party or candidate, know what is best for the other. Unfortunately, many people have difficulty facing the reality of their place in the greater scheme of things.

  • JG1

    Repeating something as a fact doesn't make it so. Telling people who or what they should be fearful of and offering to protect them from the spectre is a paltry substitute for listening to people's concerns and proposing meaningful solutions. Refusing to answer a question doesn't mean the question or the questioner is irrelevant or unworthy; addressing the question by casting aspersions on the questioner or alluding to ulterior motives for asking it or disagreeing with the premise, isn't a suitable answer. Dismissing another's ideas because one doesn't like the other or his or her background isn't a valid counterpoint. Doing so relies on logical fallacies and debating tricks, and contributes nothing to a positive public conversation about important matters for a democracy or its citizens present and future wellbeing.

  • Robert Laberge

    ABSOLUTELY AGREE

  • s_c_f

    Absolutely. 2004 was nasty. Liberals can dish it out, but they can't take it.

  • http://ragingranter.blogspot.com Raging_Ranter

    Oh, I think you've covered those bases pretty well yourself little girl.

  • http://ragingranter.blogspot.com Raging_Ranter

    Yeah but he's got a Ph. D. and he's a world traveler. A world traveler. Don't you know how good that makes him? Most countries would give up their right arm to have him as a leader. It is only here, in stupid, illiterate, backwards and backwoods, small-town and small-minded Canada that we cannot recognize such obvious greatness. We just don't deserve him.

  • Adam

    If by "well-written" you mean "rife with grammatical errors and blatantly missing words" then I agree. Well done Macleans and Professor Potter.

  • M_A_D_world

    It's their time to make use of.
    In the mean time we have a Conservative majority that is out of people to blame if their plan for Canada hits a rough patch. The NDP will have growing pains even if they learn the role of the Official Opposition quickly.
    It's just going to be a mistake on the Liberals part if they think sitting back and hoping for others to lose is the way for them to win.

  • Holly Stick

    It's righteous anger, little monkey. Harper can't appoint bigoted judges soon enough to make all the Conservatives' legal troubles go away.
    http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/ar…

  • http://ragingranter.blogspot.com Raging_Ranter

    How many bigoted judges have they appointed so far? Seems to me not too many years ago, it was Conservatives warning about the Charter giving the courts too much power, and the progressives screached from the hilltops that this simply wasn't true. Now you're afraid that their going to appoint judges you don't like? That's called poetic justice.

    I doubt they'll appoint bigoted judges. But they'll certainly appoint judges who are reluctant to engage in judicial activism and are reluctant to expand the definition of Charter rights beyond where they are right now. They'll also appoint judges that are not likely to vote in favour of preserving the Canada Health Act the next time that challenge comes up. As it surely will. The CHA barely survived the last Charter challenge on a 4-4 split vote in 2005, with one judge abstaining. Your Canada is about to change. Be happy.

  • queenidog

    Ignatieff was parachuted in like he was some kind of Great White Hope. He didn't do his job because no one believed him, and like the attack ads proclaimed, "he was not here for Canada". Where is he now? Back to teaching. Talk about a "fringe" leader. At least the other 3 leaders, 4 if you count Elizabeth May were career politicians who cared enough for the country to make it their life's work.

  • TimesArrow

    Well said. AVR is so wrapped up in HIS hatred of all things liberal, elitist and generally progressive that he can't see pass the hunk of deadwood in HIS eye to see the speck in Potters. He has a point to make. But as always with AVR he chooses to make it so visciously and in such a ridicuously over the top manner as to actually appear cartoonish himself. Sad guy really.

  • http://ragingranter.blogspot.com Raging_Ranter

    And that wonderful platform of the Liberals was enough to capture 18% of the vote. But blame negative advertising if you like.

  • W.B.

    You finally got it. He was too good for us; we were unable to grasp the possibility of greatness.
    It was like Nixon defeated Kennedy in 1960.

  • Jan

    Conservative insecurity on display. You won guys, Harper will be the one signing a free trade agreement with the EU.

  • lMonkey on the Hill

    Yah sure! We Canucks just deserve Apes drinking Coffee Tymes, who don't know how to spell Passport, and reading comics as our PMs, eh?. Your antideluvian proclivities will certainly be transporting you to Ottawa one day working for our Grrreat Leader, right next to his cave desk.

  • Jan

    'Little girl'? Having a caveman moment?

  • laureenH

    Hey Raging Ranter, your makeup's lopsided and Harpo may attack you any minute. Get ready, sweetheart, your boyfriends' bringing over his fratboys for a good…..coffee at Timmy's. Don't forget to scratch your….cup for the Freebie! It's so YOU!

  • http://ragingranter.blogspot.com Raging_Ranter

    Three in a row. That's a hat trick. Ladies, please feel free to send your fan mail to ragingranter@gmail.com.

  • Baird'sThe Man

    Hey Jan,
    The Gorilla's really a 12-year old twain with braids with confused gender identity…a buddy of Baird….forgive the Beast. He's busy scratching his Timmy Horton cup to find a free coupon…It takes all kinds in them there hills, eh!

  • http://ragingranter.blogspot.com Raging_Ranter

    So people who don't travel much all read comics and live in caves? Thanks for reinforcing my point.

  • http://ragingranter.blogspot.com Raging_Ranter

    Of course you meant 'tween'. Twelve year old tween with braids. And you don't scratch Tim Horton's cups, you roll up the rim to win. Other than that, a wonderfully coherent and insightful post.

  • http://ragingranter.blogspot.com Raging_Ranter

    What is it with you "progressive" types that you must resort to gay baiting as soon as someone angers you? I thought that was kind of… you know, the sort of thing you were against?

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