This pot's for melting: Geert Wilders, Muslims, and Assimilation

Some of you might have caught wind of self-described Islam-hater Geert Wilders’ little jaunt…

by Andrew Potter on Friday, June 10, 2011 1:55pm - 232 Comments

Some of you might have caught wind of self-described Islam-hater Geert Wilders’ little jaunt through Ontario last month, during which the controversial Dutchman performed his usual routine, viz., warning of increasing Islamicisation of Europe thanks to the failure of European multiculturalism to assimilate immigrants from muslim countries.  He also warned Canadians that our own multicultural model was similarly doomed to fail:

Wilders, noting that Canadians recently elected a majority Conservative government, said that if Canadians want to conserve their way of life, they need to pressure the Tories to adopt certain policies: curbing immigration from Islamic countries, expelling immigrants who turn to crime, stopping the construction of mosques and closing Islamic schools, where, he said, hatred against western values is promulgated.

That is from a disappointingly credulous report from my old colleague at the Ottawa Citizen, Robert Sibley.  However accurate Wilders’ views may be of Holland, and perhaps of Europe in general, when it comes to Canada (and the United States as well), they appear to be considerably at odds with the facts.

One of the longest-standing myths about immigration in Canada is that while America has always been a “melting pot”, insisting that immigrants assimilate to American society, Canada – at least since 1971 – has promoted a multicultural “mosaic”, which encourages immigrants to retain their social customs and cultural traditions from the old country. It’s not true, and probably never was – I wrote a column debunking this way of thinking about things a while ago.

In fact, a new study by Duke University economics professor Jacob Vigdor, conducted for the (decidedly right-wing, it might be emphasized) Manhattan Institute, suggests that when it comes to assimilating immigrants, Canada is the most successful in the world, followed closely by the United States. (With the caveat that Portugal actually has higher assimilation rates than the US, which is skewed quite heavily by the fact that almost all immigration to Portugal consists of Portuguese speakers from former colonies, where the immigrants are given immediate citizenship).

But according to Vigdor’s paper, the patterns are clear:

1. Across all major immigrant groups –Indians, Asians, Africans, Eastern Europeans – immigrants to Canada are the most assimilated in the world, followed by immigrants to the United States.

2. This pattern holds for muslim immigrants, who are most integrated in Canada, followed closely by the United States.

3. Even when it comes to America’s stickiest immigration problem – the low assimilation rates of Mexicans and Central Americans – “Muslim immigrants in Italy and Switzerland are much less assimilated than Mexican and Central American immigrants are in the United States. Muslim immigrants’ standing in Spain is roughly equal to the standing of Mexicans and Central Americans in the United States.”

For Vigdor, “assimilation” is a measure of the degree to which immigrants become indistinguishable from native-born members of a society, based on a handful of economic (e.g. employment rates for men and women), civic (e.g. naturalization rates), and cultural (marital status, home ownership,) indicators. When you drill down into the data a bit, the differences that emerge between Canada and the USA on the one hand, and Europe on the other, are pretty remarkable.  Take the gap between immigrant and native employment rates for males:

In most countries, native-born males are more likely to be employed than male immigrants. The most striking gaps occur in the Netherlands, where natives are more than 20 percentage points more likely to be employed than immigrants, and in France, where the gap stands at 10 percentage points. In the United States, native-born males are 5 percentage points more likely to be employed—a gap similar to those observed in the U.K. and Switzerland.

Or since we’re supposed to be worried about them, let’s consider muslims. Muslims in Canada have a higher assimilation rate than any other country in the world. When it comes to a comparison with Europe, the gap is enormous. And the USA is close behind Canada; in fact “In the United States, immigrants born in predominantly Muslim nations are more assimilated than the rest of the foreign-born population, and this is true in the United States alone.” (my bold). Another interesting nugget from the data: The female employment rate for muslim immigrants in Canada is 49%, and is 50% in the USA. Compare this with a female employment rate for native-born women in Greece (40%) Italy (44%) and Spain (42%).

Vigdor attributes Canada’s success in assimilating immigrants to three main factors: First our relatively easy three-year path to naturalization. Second, our wide tolerance for dual citizenship. But third, and most crucially, our points-based system for selecting immigrants based on workplace skills. That system is being widely studied and adopted by other countries such as Australia (who is putting its system in place this summer) It is certainly controversial –Canada has been accused of poaching the best from the immigrant pool.

This is certainly worth debating, as are other questions such as the merits of assimilation in the first place. But when it comes to bringing people to our country and turning them into Canadians, our system works extremely well. Whatever problems Holland and Europe may have, with muslims or people from any other country for that matter, when it comes to Canada, Geert Wilders simply doesn’t know what he is talking about. The people who brought him here, promoted his talks, and reported on his views without criticism should be ashamed.

 

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  • Anonymous

    time will tell… by then ..all too late for most   … sadly, but there is hope .  Bible prophecy = [clearly prophecises the demise of all fake religion ]    blah , blah , blah…  so     ..to all  would-be hopeful survivors… i strongly suggest  …open up your hearts & minds like children & seek the essence of true salvation … not the evil poluted & diluted  ‘ man – made ‘ contaminated false/corrupted religious lies ..out there ; hijacking  the simple loving message . SIMPLY   IMPOSE ” GOOD SELF ESTEEM ” FOR STARTERS  THEN START BY SINCERE PRAYERS TO  ‘ THE REAL GOD ‘  FOR YOUR ” DIVINE GUIDANCE ” TO THE ESSENTIAL FACTS ASAP…WITH GOD’S ETERNAL BLESSING…ACCORDINGLY…

  • Anonymous

    time will tell… by then ..all too late for most   … sadly, but there is hope .  Bible prophecy = [clearly prophecises the demise of all fake religion ]    blah , blah , blah…  so     ..to all  would-be hopeful survivors… i strongly suggest  …open up your hearts & minds like children & seek the essence of true salvation … not the evil poluted & diluted  ‘ man – made ‘ contaminated false/corrupted religious lies ..out there ; hijacking  the simple loving message . SIMPLY   IMPOSE ” GOOD SELF ESTEEM ” FOR STARTERS  THEN START BY SINCERE PRAYERS TO  ‘ THE REAL GOD ‘  FOR YOUR ” DIVINE GUIDANCE ” TO THE ESSENTIAL FACTS ASAP…WITH GOD’S ETERNAL BLESSING…ACCORDINGLY…

  • Anonymous

    time will tell… by then ..all too late for most   … sadly, but there is hope .  Bible prophecy = [clearly prophecises the demise of all fake religion ]    blah , blah , blah…  so     ..to all  would-be hopeful survivors… i strongly suggest  …open up your hearts & minds like children & seek the essence of true salvation … not the evil poluted & diluted  ‘ man – made ‘ contaminated false/corrupted religious lies ..out there ; hijacking  the simple loving message . SIMPLY   IMPOSE ” GOOD SELF ESTEEM ” FOR STARTERS  THEN START BY SINCERE PRAYERS TO  ‘ THE REAL GOD ‘  FOR YOUR ” DIVINE GUIDANCE ” TO THE ESSENTIAL FACTS ASAP…WITH GOD’S ETERNAL BLESSING…ACCORDINGLY…

  • Anonymous

    time will tell… by then ..all too late for most   … sadly, but there is hope .  Bible prophecy = [clearly prophecises the demise of all fake religion ]    blah , blah , blah…  so     ..to all  would-be hopeful survivors… i strongly suggest  …open up your hearts & minds like children & seek the essence of true salvation … not the evil poluted & diluted  ‘ man – made ‘ contaminated false/corrupted religious lies ..out there ; hijacking  the simple loving message . SIMPLY   IMPOSE ” GOOD SELF ESTEEM ” FOR STARTERS  THEN START BY SINCERE PRAYERS TO  ‘ THE REAL GOD ‘  FOR YOUR ” DIVINE GUIDANCE ” TO THE ESSENTIAL FACTS ASAP…WITH GOD’S ETERNAL BLESSING…ACCORDINGLY…

  • Anonymous

    time will tell… by then ..all too late for most   … sadly, but there is hope .  Bible prophecy = [clearly prophecises the demise of all fake religion ]    blah , blah , blah…  so     ..to all  would-be hopeful survivors… i strongly suggest  …open up your hearts & minds like children & seek the essence of true salvation … not the evil poluted & diluted  ‘ man – made ‘ contaminated false/corrupted religious lies ..out there ; hijacking  the simple loving message . SIMPLY   IMPOSE ” GOOD SELF ESTEEM ” FOR STARTERS  THEN START BY SINCERE PRAYERS TO  ‘ THE REAL GOD ‘  FOR YOUR ” DIVINE GUIDANCE ” TO THE ESSENTIAL FACTS ASAP…WITH GOD’S ETERNAL BLESSING…ACCORDINGLY…

  • Anonymous

    Most unfortunately for Andrew Poter, his perspective on this issue is factually wrong. 

    A just released study by the Middle East Quarterly reveal that an overwhelming majority of American mosques (81%) promotes the use of violence in the pursuit of a Shari’a-based political order

    http://www.meforum.org/2931/american-mosques

    Canada’s ability to integrate good intentioned immigrants or refugees remains exceptional  when compare with any other countries. However, the unchallenged exposure to supremacist religious-based propaganda within the mosque environment (see Dearborn, Mi) can only lead towards non integration patterns which, in the end, as Geert Wilders always states, harms both the host country AND the good intentioned Muslim immigrant who wishes to flee from his former totalitarian society.

    Reality is not as we wish, even though the temptation is strong to perceive it as such (couldn’t we just,… get along?). This is what distinguish the likes of Winston Churchill to the Nevile Chamberlain of this world.

  • Anonymous

    Most unfortunately for Andrew Poter, his perspective on this issue is factually wrong. 

    A just released study by the Middle East Quarterly reveal that an overwhelming majority of American mosques (81%) promotes the use of violence in the pursuit of a Shari’a-based political order

    http://www.meforum.org/2931/american-mosques

    Canada’s ability to integrate good intentioned immigrants or refugees remains exceptional  when compare with any other countries. However, the unchallenged exposure to supremacist religious-based propaganda within the mosque environment (see Dearborn, Mi) can only lead towards non integration patterns which, in the end, as Geert Wilders always states, harms both the host country AND the good intentioned Muslim immigrant who wishes to flee from his former totalitarian society.

    Reality is not as we wish, even though the temptation is strong to perceive it as such (couldn’t we just,… get along?). This is what distinguish the likes of Winston Churchill to the Nevile Chamberlain of this world.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Peter-Doyne/622539177 Peter Doyne

    All you have to do is live in Europe for a while like I did (7 years) and you will understand that Geert is not a raving racist or whatever convenient bracket one wants to place him but he is speaking the truth.  In Ontario all one has to do is travel through Toronto, especially Scarborough where you see nothing but muslims walking around (why don’t they work?) in droves going to their mosques and just wasting time.  You’d have to be an idiot and ignorant of the history of Lebanon, Egypt, Turkey…I could go on…before you realize that we have been colonized like many other parts of the world. Then when it comes time for the next rash of cartoons or issues in their countries, or something else to raise their blood pressure, then you will see what Geert is speaking of.  Give it time.  It will happen.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Peter-Doyne/622539177 Peter Doyne

    All you have to do is live in Europe for a while like I did (7 years) and you will understand that Geert is not a raving racist or whatever convenient bracket one wants to place him but he is speaking the truth.  In Ontario all one has to do is travel through Toronto, especially Scarborough where you see nothing but muslims walking around (why don’t they work?) in droves going to their mosques and just wasting time.  You’d have to be an idiot and ignorant of the history of Lebanon, Egypt, Turkey…I could go on…before you realize that we have been colonized like many other parts of the world. Then when it comes time for the next rash of cartoons or issues in their countries, or something else to raise their blood pressure, then you will see what Geert is speaking of.  Give it time.  It will happen.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Peter-Doyne/622539177 Peter Doyne

    All you have to do is live in Europe for a while like I did (7 years) and you will understand that Geert is not a raving racist or whatever convenient bracket one wants to place him but he is speaking the truth.  In Ontario all one has to do is travel through Toronto, especially Scarborough where you see nothing but muslims walking around (why don’t they work?) in droves going to their mosques and just wasting time.  You’d have to be an idiot and ignorant of the history of Lebanon, Egypt, Turkey…I could go on…before you realize that we have been colonized like many other parts of the world. Then when it comes time for the next rash of cartoons or issues in their countries, or something else to raise their blood pressure, then you will see what Geert is speaking of.  Give it time.  It will happen.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Peter-Doyne/622539177 Peter Doyne

    All you have to do is live in Europe for a while like I did (7 years) and you will understand that Geert is not a raving racist or whatever convenient bracket one wants to place him but he is speaking the truth.  In Ontario all one has to do is travel through Toronto, especially Scarborough where you see nothing but muslims walking around (why don’t they work?) in droves going to their mosques and just wasting time.  You’d have to be an idiot and ignorant of the history of Lebanon, Egypt, Turkey…I could go on…before you realize that we have been colonized like many other parts of the world. Then when it comes time for the next rash of cartoons or issues in their countries, or something else to raise their blood pressure, then you will see what Geert is speaking of.  Give it time.  It will happen.

  • Nacken3

    Just allow moslem women into Canada.  It would afford them far greater opportunities than at home, in all likelihood.  They wouldn’t be seen as much of a threat.  In any case, up till now at least, the large majority of moslem immigrants are men.  This might address the imbalance.

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