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The lurking, unspecific danger

by Aaron Wherry on Tuesday, July 12, 2011 4:31pm - 78 Comments

While we’re on the subject of vaguely foreboding warnings from our Prime Minister, Mr. Harper’s communications director, Dimitri Soudas, has recently added this bit to his email signature.

“In such a world, strength is not an option; It is a vital necessity. Moral ambiguity, moral equivalence are not options, they are dangerous illusions.”

In context, from the Prime Minister’s speech to the Conservative convention last month, this bit sets up Mr. Harper’s suggestion that Canada might not make it to see 2067.

We are living in a world in which, after decades of stable, sometimes stagnant international relationships, change is the new constant. Power is shifting. New forces are coming to the fore. Some we will be pleased to work with. Some we must resist.

Dans un tel monde, d’immenses possibilités et de grand danger pour le Canada, l’unité nationale, dans les faits comme dans le but, est notre plus grand atout. In such a world, strength is not an option; It is a vital necessity. Moral ambiguity, moral equivalence are not options, they are dangerous illusions. And national unity, in fact and in purpose, is our greatest asset.

Friends, in a few short years, we will celebrate our 150th anniversary as a united country. If, in 50 more years, we wish our descendants to celebrate Canada’s 200th  anniversary, then we must be all we can be in the world today. Therefore, my friends, our party’s great purpose is nothing less than to prepare our nation to shoulder a bigger load, in a world that will require it of us.

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  • Anonymous

    “Therefore, my friends, our party’s great purpose is nothing less than to prepare our nation to shoulder a bigger load, in a world that will require it of us.”

    Shoulder a bigger load or shovel a bigger load? Sounds like the latter to me. It’ll be interesting to see whether this swaggering bullshit resonates beyond the CPoC’s base.

    I wonder how they reconcile their asbestos policy with all this sanctimony about moral ambiguity.

    • Anonymous

      Out of curiosity, have the nearly defunct Liberals changed their asbestos policy?  A few short months ago, the Liberal leader was hobnobbing with the owner of the asbestos mine, a key Liberal supporter:
      http://montreal.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20110127/mtl_iggy_110127/20110127/?hub=MontrealHome

      • Anonymous

        From the CTV article…

        Speaking to reporters Thursday, Ignatieff acknowledged that he doesn’t agree with his friend’s view on asbestos.

        “I think that Canada cannot export a product that is dangerous and cannot be handled safely,” Ignatieff said in Montreal.

        “I’ve said that for a long time.”

        OTOH, I suppose that whatever some guy named Ignatieff said a few months ago doesn’t really matter all that much anymore.  Also, I wasn’t able to turn up anything on the web that suggests the Liberals now officially support the export of asbestos – have you got info that says otherwise?

        Lastly, politics aside, what is your policy position?

        • Anonymous

          Ignatieff was on record doing numerous asbestos-related flip-flops. With regards to asbestos exports, I’d have to look at the technical literature before I made up my mind, given that the Canadian product is less dangerous than other types.  

          However, as a default stance I’d have to agree with a slight modification of Ignatieff’s position above: Canada should not export a product if it is dangerous and there are no reasonable assurances that it will be handled safely.

          • Anonymous

            I’m not surprised to learn that Ignatieff flipped and/or flopped, but it still seems to be the case that as of right now the LPC position is more supportive of the health and safety of foreign workers than the CPC position.   ;-)

            I had read that the asbestos that is extracted from (most, all?) Canadian deposits is the class that is thought to be safer than the other class.  But I’m not sure that the difference is significant enough, and as best I can tell suitable replacement products are available, so I’m quite uncomfortable about Canada’s continued exports.

          • Anonymous

            “…given that the Canadian product is less dangerous than other types. “

            If you’re diving into technical literature, this might be the first thing you look into.

      • Phil King

        Ah yes the classic diversion. Like it matters what the Liberal position is.

        Last time I checked, what matters is the government’s position, and that position stinks to high hell.

  • Anonymous

    Did I miss an era of stable, unchanging international relationships when power never shifted, new forces never came to the fore and we liked everyone in the world?  I get the impression from the above that I should be scared out of my wits to be living in 2011, but the only way I can make that sense of unending fear seem rational is by pretending that all of history before now was some gold-encrusted utopia with unicorns.

    That said, I suppose I should take some comfort in the thought that the Tories, at least, are almost certainly planning for the upcoming zombie infestations.  I bet none of the other parties have even THOUGHT about what we’re going to do about the zombie apocalypse.

    • TonyAdams

      “I bet none of the other parties have even THOUGHT about what we’re going to do about the zombie apocalypse.”

      Important info to know – anyone who has watched Shaun of Dead, or any other zombie movie, knows how important it is to know what you are doing and not muck about. People have to go after zombie’s brain right away or else you waste time and energy.

      • Anonymous

        That sounds suspiciously like “Off with Harper’s head!” LOL!

        • TonyAdams

          I am equal opportunity beheader – NDP, Lib or Con MPs – does not matter. 

          PJ O’Rourke ~ Politics should be limited in scope to ware, protection of property, and the occasional precautionary beheading of a member of the ruling class

          • Anonymous

            See, Tony, THESE two were short, pithy and on point. Much better!

        • TonyAdams

          I am equal opportunity beheader – NDP, Lib or Con MPs – does not matter. 

          PJ O’Rourke ~ Politics should be limited in scope to ware, protection of property, and the occasional precautionary beheading of a member of the ruling class

      • Anonymous

        That sounds suspiciously like “Off with Harper’s head!” LOL!

    • Anonymous

      Huh. And here I thought we’d already seen the zombie apocalypse on May 2.

  • Anonymous

    Also, which should be more worrying to me, unspecified dangers that are lurking, somewhere, or unspecified troubles that are lapping on our shores? On the one hand, dangers seem more, well, dangerous than troubles, but those troubles are LAPPING ON OUR SHORES.  I mean, they’re actually TOUCHING THE SHORELINE!!!

    I think I need some more details regarding where exactly these dangers are lurking.  I know I’m supposed to be terrified, but I feel that the Tories could be just a little more helpful in assisting me in properly channeling my irrational fears in the proper direction.

  • TonyAdams

    Things conservatives are worried about.

    1) Enlightenment values are under attack – Canada tolerates intolerance.

    Isn’t it odd how stories about Muslim school prayers now being conducted at Valley Park Middle School in Don Mills are all about religion making its way into public schools?

    http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorialopinion/article/1022295–mallick-time-for-someone-to-speak-up-for-shy-young-girls

    Recent data released by Statistics Canada reported that there has been a 42 per cent increase in hate crimes and just as alarming is the added statistic that there has been a 71 per cent increase in religiously motivated hate crimes targeting the Jewish community.

    http://www.jewishtribune.ca/TribuneV2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4536&Itemid=53

    2) Rise of China

    ” …. China specialists Paul Giarra and Patrick Cronin maintain that “an increasingly assertive China is creating its own Monroe Doctrine for Asia’s seas – and threatening longstanding freedoms.” For evidence, they proffer such recent events as Beijing elevating the South China Sea to a “core national interest,” meaning it is prepared to fight for its maritime territorial claims in Southeast Asia;”

    http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=4784169&c=FEA&s=COM

    A top Homeland Security Official admitted to Congress that electronics and software sold in the United States are sometimes preloaded with spyware, malware, and other nasty security-compromising components by unknown foreign parties.

    http://www.pcworld.com/article/235355/malware_comes_with_many_gadgets_homeland_security_admits.html

    3) Debt

    Europe’s escalating debt crisis is on the verge of engulfing by far its biggest victim: Italy, the world’s seventh-largest economy, whose sheer size could thwart any international attempt to bail it out.

    Italy has been deeply indebted for years, and its woes have generated a burst of investor panic in recent days amid concerns of political infighting in Rome over budget cuts, battering Italian bank shares and sending Italy’s borrowing costs skyrocketing to dangerous levels.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/europes-debt-crisis-threatens-massive-italy/2011/07/12/gIQA0M05AI_story.html

    Canadians fell even deeper in debt in the first quarter of this year, Statistics Canada reported Monday, as they used low interest rates to buy into the housing market, sending household debt to a new record high.

    The report showed that household debt has risen to a new record of $1.548 trillion from $1.526 trillion in the previous quarter. On a per-capita basis, the amount rose to $45,000 from $44,500 in the previous quarter.

    http://www.montrealgazette.com/life/Flaherty+says+mortgage+rules+despite+record+high+household+debt/4979861/story.html

    • Anonymous

      Oh, for the love of god.

      Yes, thank heavens we have conservatives to protect enlightenment “values”, whatever that means, while simultaneously denying global warming and (those in power at least) polluting science to serve political ends. We even have a Minister of Science and Technology who doesn’t “believe” in evolution.

      “Recent data released by Statistics Canada reported that there has been a
      42 per cent increase in hate crimes and just as alarming is the added
      statistic that there has been a 71 per cent increase in religiously
      motivated hate crimes targeting the Jewish community.”

      Interesting phrasing. That second statistic sounds like it comes from Statistics Canada. Does it? I don’t think so. I think it might come from the annual B’nai Brith “audit” of antisemitism, which counts everything from obvious acts of antisemitism to blog posts, to random comments on blog posts with minimal investigation or documentation.

      If conservatives really care about stopping antisemitism, they might guard a little more carefully against its cheapening like this. They might warn against crying wolf. And they might not try to claim that criticism of the state of Israel is inherently antisemitic.

      Ah, debt. Imagine where Canada’s deficit would be if Harper hadn’t cut the GST to 5%. Coincidentally, Canada’s structural deficit (which, like evolution and global warming, exists in spite of Conservative Cabinet members’ denials) is roughly the size of the GST cut. But “everyone knows” that conservatives hate debt.

      Imagine how much less debt the US would be carrying if George W. Bush hadn’t cut a trillion dollars’ worth of taxes for the nation’s wealthiest citizens. And where they would be now if Republicans hadn’t insisted on renewing those tax cuts despite a massive deficit…. and if Obama hadn’t caved to their reckless demands.

      This kind of “We conservatives believe…” bullshit drives me crazy, when reality proves time and time again that it’s not true.

      • TonyAdams

        I always enjoy left wing types ranting on about Jews and how B’nai Brith makes stuff up, claim global warming is occurring, Bush tax cuts cost government money and then accuse others of not being aware of ‘reality’.

         
        1) “ I think it might come from the annual B’nai Brith “audit” of antisemitism ….. ”

        StatsCan ~ 

        As in previous years, 7 in 10 religiously-motivated hate crimes were committed against the Jewish faith in 2009. 

        Police reported 283 such hate crimes in 2009, up 71% from 2008.

        Hate crimes against the Muslim faith (Islam) increased from 26 incidents in 2008 to 36 in 2009.

        Police-reported hate crimes refer to criminal incidents that, upon investigation by police, are determined to have been motivated by hate towards an identifiable group.

        http://www.statcan.gc.ca/daily-quotidien/110607/dq110607a-eng.htm

        2) “Imagine how much less debt the US would be carrying …. ”

        In 2003, when the Bush tax cuts became fully operational, federal revenues were $1.782 trillion and the deficit was $377 billion. Unemployment was 6.1 percent. Four years later, federal revenues were $2.568 trillion, 44 percent higher than when the Bush tax cuts kicked in; the deficit was $162 billion, 59.3 percent lower than before the tax cuts; and the unemployment rate was 4.4 percent, 27 percent lower than four years earlier.

        http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/07/08/on-tortoises-and-tax-cuts/#more-759782

        3) “… which, like evolution and global warming, exists … ”

        Interview with Phil Jones - director of the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) at the University of East Anglia (UEA)

        Q: Do you agree that from 1995 to the present there has been no statistically-significant global warming

        A: Yes, but only just.

        http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8511670.stm

        • Anonymous

          Tsk tsk…and only moments ago you were touting enlightenment values Tony…and yet here you are being anti-science and reason.

          Not to mention, misquoting.

        • Anonymous

          Thanks for the Statscan link. For the record, B’nai Brith and the Jewish people are not one and the same. I criticized the former, not the latter. I’m sure you didn’t mean to imply that I’m antisemitic.

          On US debt, honestly, you need better sources. See Figure 1 here: http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=3036

          On global warming, surely even you don’t believe that an entire field of science is disproved by one cherry-picked, out-of-context quote.

          You keep using this word, enlightenment. I do not think it means what you think it means.

          • TonyAdams

            “….. you need better sources.”

            “Together with the economic downturn, the Bush tax cuts and the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq explain virtually the entire deficit over the next ten years.”

            Hahahahahahaha. That’s had me laughing for minutes, at least.

            I think they left out at least one other major cost that might be responsible for debt as well.

            Well, a new Congressional Budget Office report on the long-term trend in the federal budget finds that the costs of Medicare and Medicaid will drive federal spending and debt to all-time highs in coming decades. In one scenario, federal health-care spending doubles over the next 25 years, to 11% of GDP in 2035 from 5.6% this year. In another scenario, the debt eclipses 100% of GDP by 2021 and 190% of GDP by 2035. That’s higher than where Greece is right now, and we see what the bond vigilantes are doing there.

            http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304584004576415841964301396.html

          • Anonymous

            Did you click the link I included? Did you look at Figure 1? Try it now.

            Down at the bottom, where it says “Deficit without these factors”, the projection includes Medicare and Medicaid.

            I mean, if you had an axe to grind, you could pick any federal program and claim that its cost is the cause of the deficit. But were talking specifically about the Bush tax cuts. And since they are a recent new “spend”, it seems pretty reasonable to call them out like this. Same for Bush’s wars.

            Medicare and Medicaid, OTOH, have existed for decades and are already rolled into budgets and projections.

            But neither you nor the WSJ would have an axe to grind, would you?

          • TonyAdams

            “On global warming, surely even you don’t believe that an entire field of science is disproved by one cherry-picked, out-of-context quote.”

            What you call “one cherry-picked, out-of-context quote” is actually a fact. 

            I can ‘cherry-pick’ lots more quotes and stats and data if you like.

            World is not warming – it ‘is taking a break’, don’t you know. 

            The planet’s temperature curve rose sharply for almost 30 years, as global temperatures increased by an average of 0.7 degrees Celsius (1.25 degrees Fahrenheit) from the 1970s to the late 1990s. 

            “At present, however, the warming is taking a break,” confirms meteorologist Mojib Latif of the Leibniz Institute of Marine Sciences in the northern German city of Kiel. Latif, one of Germany’s best-known climatologists, says that the temperature curve has reached a plateau. 

            “There can be no argument about that,” he says. “We have to face that fact.”

            http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,662092,00.html

            British scientists have produced a new study suggesting that the Sun is coming to the end of a “grand solar maximum” – a long period of intense activity in the Sun – meaning that we in Blighty could be set for a long period of much colder winters, similar to those seen during the “little ice age” of the 17th and 18th centuries.

            http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/07/06/lockwood_solar_minimum/

          • Anonymous

            If you’d done a little more googling you would have discovered that Latif believes in global warming.

          • Anonymous

            “I can ‘cherry-pick’ lots more quotes and stats and data if you like.”

            Oh I’m sure you could cut ‘n’ paste all day long. For all your sanctimony about enlightenment, it sure goes out the window when you climb on a soapbox.

            You have no idea how science works.

          • TonyAdams
        • Anonymous

          2003 – 2007. Hm. I wonder why “commentary magazine” stopped at that point.

          Oh yeah.. because 2008 hit right after, and that one year blows the whole thing out of the water, and that’s even with giving that right-wing biased piece of trash the benefit of the doubt in how they looked at revenues on a flat-line basis, not adjusting for GDP growth *or* inflation.

          For one who moans about bias in the social sciences, you sure do like to use sources that have extremely heavy known biases.  I mean hell, that magazine comes right out and says it in their about page:
          “Since its inception in 1945, and increasingly after it emerged as the flagship of neoconservatism in the 1970s”.

          You are such a hypocrite.

      • TonyAdams

        I always enjoy left wing types ranting on about Jews and how B’nai Brith makes stuff up, claim global warming is occurring, Bush tax cuts cost government money and then accuse others of not being aware of ‘reality’.

         
        1) “ I think it might come from the annual B’nai Brith “audit” of antisemitism ….. ”

        StatsCan ~ 

        As in previous years, 7 in 10 religiously-motivated hate crimes were committed against the Jewish faith in 2009. 

        Police reported 283 such hate crimes in 2009, up 71% from 2008.

        Hate crimes against the Muslim faith (Islam) increased from 26 incidents in 2008 to 36 in 2009.

        Police-reported hate crimes refer to criminal incidents that, upon investigation by police, are determined to have been motivated by hate towards an identifiable group.

        http://www.statcan.gc.ca/daily-quotidien/110607/dq110607a-eng.htm

        2) “Imagine how much less debt the US would be carrying …. ”

        In 2003, when the Bush tax cuts became fully operational, federal revenues were $1.782 trillion and the deficit was $377 billion. Unemployment was 6.1 percent. Four years later, federal revenues were $2.568 trillion, 44 percent higher than when the Bush tax cuts kicked in; the deficit was $162 billion, 59.3 percent lower than before the tax cuts; and the unemployment rate was 4.4 percent, 27 percent lower than four years earlier.

        http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/07/08/on-tortoises-and-tax-cuts/#more-759782

        3) “… which, like evolution and global warming, exists … ”

        Interview with Phil Jones - director of the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) at the University of East Anglia (UEA)

        Q: Do you agree that from 1995 to the present there has been no statistically-significant global warming

        A: Yes, but only just.

        http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8511670.stm

    • Anonymous

      What, you think the Conservatives are responsible for that 42  per cent increase in hate crimes and  71 per cent increase in religiously motivated hate crimes targeting the Jewish community?

      • Anonymous

        Tony doesn’t know what he thinks.  He just has a Random Quote Generator.

      • Anonymous

        Tony doesn’t know what he thinks.  He just has a Random Quote Generator.

    • Anonymous

      What, you think the Conservatives are responsible for that 42  per cent increase in hate crimes and  71 per cent increase in religiously motivated hate crimes targeting the Jewish community?

  • Anonymous

    “If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face – forever.”

    1984
    Geroge Orwell

    • http://twitter.com/austin_so Austin So

      “Terrorism is the best political weapon for nothing drives people harder than a fear of sudden death.”

      “The …. Government will regard it as its first and foremost duty to revive in the nation the spirit of unity and cooperation. It will preserve and defend those basic principles on which our nation has been built. It regards Christianity as the foundation of our national morality, and the family as the basis of national life.”

      “All propaganda must be so popular and on such an intellectual level, that even the most stupid of those toward whom it is directed will understand it… Through clever and constant application of propaganda, people can be made to see paradise as hell, and also the other way around, to consider the most wretched sort of life as paradise.”

      • Phil King

        Could we get some citations on those quotes? Thanks!

        • http://twitter.com/austin_so Austin So

          Aw c’mon…take a guess!

  • Anonymous

    Well that’s it then,  pack it in.   Harper is preparing us for Armageddon.

     ’Moral ambiguity, moral equivalence are not options, they are dangerous illusions.”….so no more of that eh?

    We’re looking for some fire and brimstone, and lots of smiting! Maybe even a few lightning bolts…

    • Anonymous

      “Smiting”? Marg, is that you?

      • Anonymous

        LOL nah….God has a great history of smiting, so I’m sure some will be involved in an Apocolypse doncha think?

        • Anonymous

          Drat! I was so looking for you to post a shot of yourself in that warrior princess costume! Probably not the site for that though.

      • Anonymous

        LOL nah….God has a great history of smiting, so I’m sure some will be involved in an Apocolypse doncha think?

    • Anonymous

      “Smiting”? Marg, is that you?

    • Anonymous

      They’re right. Moral ambiguity is not an option. 

      As a liberal I hold some values absolute. 

    • Anonymous

      They’re right. Moral ambiguity is not an option. 

      As a liberal I hold some values absolute. 

      • Anonymous

        Me too…but I’m darned sure Harper won’t like em.

      • Anonymous

        Me too…but I’m darned sure Harper won’t like em.

  • Anonymous

    Anybody have a copy of the great speeches of Oswald Mosley ?
    Something about the tone ….

    • TonyAdams

      ” …. the great speeches of Oswald Mosley?”

      Ever since Theodor Adorno came out with his scandalously flawed Authoritarian Personality in 1950, liberal and leftist social scientists have been trying to diagnose conservatism as a psychological defect or sickness. 

      Adorno and his colleagues argued that conservatism was little more than a “pre-fascist” “personality type.” According to this school, sympathy for communism was an indication of openness and healthy idealism. 

      Opposition to communism was a symptom of your more deep-seated pathologies and fascist tendencies. According to Adorno, subjects who saw Nazism and Stalinism as similar phenomena were demonstrating their “idiocy” and “irrationality.” 

      http://old.nationalreview.com/goldberg/goldberg200603220735.asp

      • Anonymous

        You’ve used this one 6X now….retire it

      • Anonymous

        You’ve used this one 6X now….retire it

      • Anonymous

        Kindly stop infringing copyright.

    • TonyAdams

      ” …. the great speeches of Oswald Mosley?”

      Ever since Theodor Adorno came out with his scandalously flawed Authoritarian Personality in 1950, liberal and leftist social scientists have been trying to diagnose conservatism as a psychological defect or sickness. 

      Adorno and his colleagues argued that conservatism was little more than a “pre-fascist” “personality type.” According to this school, sympathy for communism was an indication of openness and healthy idealism. 

      Opposition to communism was a symptom of your more deep-seated pathologies and fascist tendencies. According to Adorno, subjects who saw Nazism and Stalinism as similar phenomena were demonstrating their “idiocy” and “irrationality.” 

      http://old.nationalreview.com/goldberg/goldberg200603220735.asp

  • Anonymous

    Anybody have a copy of the great speeches of Oswald Mosley ?
    Something about the tone ….

  • Richard Greer

    Yup. They’ll be announcing a research centre for zombie serum in Tony Clement’s riding any day now.

  • Richard Greer

    Yup. They’ll be announcing a research centre for zombie serum in Tony Clement’s riding any day now.

    • Anonymous

      So it really was about border security after all.  They just couldn’t tell us because of the security issues.  Right.

    • Anonymous

      So it really was about border security after all.  They just couldn’t tell us because of the security issues.  Right.

  • Anonymous

    Lots of over-analysis going on with this one.

    Message redux: “Yeah, we’re on top now, but you, and all Canadians, should still be scared. The world is scary, and only we can stand up to The Scary. Send the party $50 bucks now. NOW.”

    Ain’t rocket science.

    • Anonymous

      No kidding.  It really ain’t rocket science.

    • Anonymous

      Thank goodness or it wouldn’t get funded.

  • Anonymous

    Lots of over-analysis going on with this one.

    Message redux: “Yeah, we’re on top now, but you, and all Canadians, should still be scared. The world is scary, and only we can stand up to The Scary. Send the party $50 bucks now. NOW.”

    Ain’t rocket science.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Z4UWLSSOOCOIUJ3IAC6OPVGREU d.

    Just to be totally irrelevant, but are any of MacLean’s bloggers aware of what’s going on in the rest of the world?

    Karzai’s half-brother has been assassinated. What do you think will happen to Canadian trainers there?

    Rupert Murdoch has turned into a superannuated script-kiddie.

    I know we’re all fascinated by Dear Robot, but he doesn’t really change much, apart from the occasional re-calibration; however, there’s other things.
    .

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Z4UWLSSOOCOIUJ3IAC6OPVGREU d.

    Just to be totally irrelevant, but are any of MacLean’s bloggers aware of what’s going on in the rest of the world?

    Karzai’s half-brother has been assassinated. What do you think will happen to Canadian trainers there?

    Rupert Murdoch has turned into a superannuated script-kiddie.

    I know we’re all fascinated by Dear Robot, but he doesn’t really change much, apart from the occasional re-calibration; however, there’s other things.
    .

    • Anonymous

      I am managing to follow this and the ones you mentioned.  You seem to be too. This internets thing is so handy, isn’t it?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Z4UWLSSOOCOIUJ3IAC6OPVGREU d.

        It’s MacLeans’ bloggers that seem to be avoiding the Murdoch thing. Does he have them by the emails?

    • Anonymous

      I am managing to follow this and the ones you mentioned.  You seem to be too. This internets thing is so handy, isn’t it?

  • Anonymous

    Weak.  So very, very weak. In a vague, foreboding sort of way, of course.

    • Claudia Lemire

      Amen!

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  • Anonymous

    The things we need to be scared of are Conservative’s delusion of persecution, and their apparant desire to militarize a civilian government.  “Strength is not an option?”  Is it considered Godwinning if we simply quote their spokesthingies?

  • San Diego Dave

    Didn’t a wise man once say that only a Sith deals in absolutes?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Z4UWLSSOOCOIUJ3IAC6OPVGREU d.

    I think Mr. Wherry made a bet with someone he could make a blog of two long quotes glued together with the thinnest of non-committal adhesive.

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