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What do we need to know?

by Aaron Wherry on Tuesday, July 26, 2011 4:22pm - 12 Comments

Colin Horgan explores the question of public life and personal health.

Privacy is an important consideration, says Asselin. “Unless something’s very meaningful in terms of disease or condition, I don’t think people should have the obligation to tell everyone about everything,” he said.

Meisel says it raises questions of the public’s reach into the private lives of those who serve their communities. “My guess with the media now being so invasive, we’re in danger of really depriving politicians of so much privacy that some people who could make a great contribution in politics won’t enter politics because they don’t want to expose themselves to that.”

This question came up yesterday on the specific of what type of cancer Jack Layton is now dealing with (it was later reported that doctors don’t yet know). There’s certainly a case to be made that the public isn’t necessarily entitled to much more than the basic information about the health issue and whether the politician will be remaining in his elected position. In batting the issue around yesterday on Twitter, I did wonder whether a prime minister might be expected to be more thorough in disclosure and explanation.

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  • TonyAdams

    “Prior to 2011 election, pundits discussed whether Layton should provide Canadians with the details of his health. He didn’t, and his apparent vitality during the five weeks that followed seemed to answer most questions.” 

    I don’t know when exactly it happened but sometime 15-20 years ago Canada fell down rabbit hole and landed in Wonderland.
    How else to explain attitude that pols deserve more privacy than private citizens? 

    Public deserves to know everything about pols, they are public servants, and we decide what is important and what isn’t. Layton is on cocktail of pharmaceuticals, affects judgement/health/vitality, public has right to know what’s going on. Layton keeping his treatment secret like he has is anti-democratic – how many people voted for NDP last election because of Layton? 

    Also, Layton visits brothels and no one in msm seriously questioned Layton about his nocturnal activities. Pols have more than enough privacy, they don’t need even more. 

    Did police allow all perverts to leave without being charged or just the public servants? 

    “Jack Layton was found laying naked on a bed by Toronto Police at a suspected Chinatown bawdy house in 1996 …. 

    When the policeman and his partner walked into a second-floor room at the Toronto massage parlour, they saw an attractive 5-foot-10 Asian woman who was in her mid-20s and the married, then-Metro councillor, lying on his back in bed.
    Layton was cautioned by police and released without being charged.” The Sun, April, 2011

    • Anonymous

      WTF is wrong with you?

      • Anonymous

        Well, he is tenacious.

  • Anonymous

    I agree with Wherry that if the country’s Head of Government was battling cancer, the citizens would be entitled to some sort of prognosis.  It’s pretty clearly in the public interest to know.  Similarly,  I think the citizens have a right to know the prognosis for the alternative Head of Government (i.e. the Leader of the Official Opposition).

    However, at this point, I think most of us are aware of the gravity of Layton’s situation and we’re hoping and praying that he pulls through this. He is fighting this battle with great courage and determination, and I hope he’ll be able to resume his duties as NDP leader.

    • Anonymous

      Well said.  Layton is probably being more open than many in his situation would be, but we don’t need the details.

      Also, kudos to the vast majority of pundits & commentors on the opposite side of the political debate who are treating this issue with the proper respect.  May we do the same if something serious happens to a senior Conservative politician.

    • Anonymous

      Well said.  Layton is probably being more open than many in his situation would be, but we don’t need the details.

      Also, kudos to the vast majority of pundits & commentors on the opposite side of the political debate who are treating this issue with the proper respect.  May we do the same if something serious happens to a senior Conservative politician.

    • Anonymous

      I think we now know all we need to know about Layton’s health.  We were owed an explanation as to why he decided he’d be unable to fulfill his obligations as opposition leader and we’ve received that.  I trust Layton’s judgment about the limitations his medical condition imposes and therefore don’t need to know anything more about that condition.  What Layton has shared about his medical issues has already earned him my sympathy, prayers and best wishes – I don’t need to know anything more, nor, IMO, does any other member of the general public.

    • Anonymous

      I think we now know all we need to know about Layton’s health.  We were owed an explanation as to why he decided he’d be unable to fulfill his obligations as opposition leader and we’ve received that.  I trust Layton’s judgment about the limitations his medical condition imposes and therefore don’t need to know anything more about that condition.  What Layton has shared about his medical issues has already earned him my sympathy, prayers and best wishes – I don’t need to know anything more, nor, IMO, does any other member of the general public.

  • modster99

    I agree with @Crit_Reasoning:disqus . Politicians do deserve some privacy, but in the case of the PM and the leader of the opposition, we have a right to know the status of their health. We need to know if we can expect them to be there in a year, and if they have the ability to make good decisions. (If they are on a lot of drugs/painkillers, it might affect their decision making abilities.) Not saying that they cannot still do their job, but we do have a right to know.

  • David Kocian

    Not sure if I entirely agree if the public has a right to know the state of someone’s health.  Would you want your own health records being made public because you choose to serve your country?  What would the benefit be to the public in knowing the medication someone is on?  Do we start to argue the treatment they may be receiving because we disagree with their doctors treatment plan?  Do we start examining the potential side effects that are often associated to drugs and associate any undesirable behaviour to the medication instead of the person?

    If we go down this slippery slope where do we end up, will we next examine what our politicians diet consists of.  Do we start to question Rob Ford’s weight issue and judge his ability to lead a city because he has high cholesoral or high blood pressure and may be taking medication to deal with it.

    • Phil King

      Totally agree. The right to privacy, even for political leaders, should be protected.

      Its enough to know for example that Jack Layton is sick and seeking treatment. Beyond that it’s the job of the doctors to determine what’s what.

      I see no benefit worth the loss of privacy to justify taking such decisions (as to whether to publicize) out of the hands of the people themselves. Layton told us what he wished to tell us and we should leave it at that.

      Personally, having seen more than my fair share of cancer patients in various stages, I have grave doubts that he’ll be back, but I’m hoping he will pull through and prove me wrong.

      I don’t share his politics, but he seems like a good man who deserves our sympathies and well wishes.

    • Phil King

      Totally agree. The right to privacy, even for political leaders, should be protected.

      Its enough to know for example that Jack Layton is sick and seeking treatment. Beyond that it’s the job of the doctors to determine what’s what.

      I see no benefit worth the loss of privacy to justify taking such decisions (as to whether to publicize) out of the hands of the people themselves. Layton told us what he wished to tell us and we should leave it at that.

      Personally, having seen more than my fair share of cancer patients in various stages, I have grave doubts that he’ll be back, but I’m hoping he will pull through and prove me wrong.

      I don’t share his politics, but he seems like a good man who deserves our sympathies and well wishes.

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