Reponse to ‘Opposing prayer in Toronto public schools, with dignity’

Ron Banerjee responds

by Ron Banerjee on Friday, July 29, 2011 3:50pm - 48 Comments

[This post was written by Ron Banerjee in response to Emma Teitel's article, 'Opposing prayer in Toronto public schools, with dignity']

The Canadian Hindu community has been, and continues to be, victimized by violence and hatred. As representatives of Canadian Hindus, the Canadian Hindu Advocacy is now being subjected to attacks and innuendos, often from biased media.

In the controversy over Valley Park School, terrified Hindu parents had contacted us to complain about Islamic students disrupting classes every week by having imams lead prayers in the cafeteria. They felt that the TDSB was so thoroughly infected with Islamist sympathies that they would suffer consequences for speaking up.

Recently, CHA was approached by a reporter who arrived half an hour before our planned picket and demanded to know on camera where ‘all the Hindus are’. His goal was to discredit the Canadian Hindu Advocacy, despite the known fact that we are a large national group which has published over 100 op-eds and letters to the editor in the National Post, Financial Post, and Toronto Sun over the last few years. All are freely available on our website in our ‘Media’ section.

You cannot get much more mainstream than that. In the current controversy, some fringe Hindu groups are trying to score cheap publicity by attacking our noble organization, or taking contrary views to stoke conflict.

These groups should be aware that we exist to counter hate and oppression, mostly from Sikh and Muslim fundamentalists, that Hindus have suffered from in Canada.

They should note that over 330 mostly Hindus were slaughtered by suspected Sikh Khalistan fundamentalists in the Air India tragedy, while Canadian authorities bungled the investigation, treated victims with contempt, and recently offered a financial package which victim families termed as ‘an insult’.

They should also note that after 9/11, the only religious structure destroyed in Canada was a Hindu temple in Hamilton. When the temple asked the McGuinty government for financial assistance to rebuild, they were told governments cannot fund religious establishments.

The ‘Scamgate’ scandal revealed this same government handed over millions in grants to religious groups, including a dozen Muslim groups and a Sikh temple whose posters celebrate the suspects in the Air India bombing.

These incidents happened because Hindus had no effective clout, while Muslims and Sikhs ran roughshod over Hindu rights with the connivance of Canadian governments and authorities.

Muslims are now twisting the meaning of ‘reasonable accommodation’ to their benefit again. A reasonable solution would have been for Islamic students to pack bag lunches and traipse to the nearby mosque during their hour-long lunch break. Disrupting classes harms everyone and benefits none.

Hindu and other non Muslim students are adversely affected by 400 Muslims marching in and out of class, while Muslims miss an hour of instruction every week.

Canadian Hindu temples and groups have proven themselves unable or unwilling to protect Hindu lives, rights, or property. The Canadian Hindu Advocacy was formed to address this, and our national advocacy shall continue to provide real leadership to our oppressed community, which is by far the most victimized in Canada.

We have formed a multi faith coalition with the Christian Heritage Party and Jewish Defence League of Canada. We will work to restore Canadian values of democracy and freedom, which are themselves a combination of both Hindu and Judeo Christian principles.

Ron Banerjee is a director with the Canadian Hindu Advocacy

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  • Anonymous

    As a public school teacher, I want to thank Ron Bannerjee for speaking up on this matter which is about fairness and preserving class time for secular learning. I have listened to him speak several times and his comments have been fair minded. Taxpayers and teachers are grateful for his input. 

    • Jim

      A) I highly HIGHLY doubt you are a public school teacher as you sound like an idiot troll. That being said, hypothetically if we go by the “if I read it on the internet it MUST be true” rule, as a public school teacher I want to know WHERE exactly you teach so that we know that there’s someone in the school system supporting a fascist right-wing genocide denyer in Ron Banerjee and his crazed uncle (aka “the cha”)

    • Jim

      A) I highly HIGHLY doubt you are a public school teacher as you sound like an idiot troll. That being said, hypothetically if we go by the “if I read it on the internet it MUST be true” rule, as a public school teacher I want to know WHERE exactly you teach so that we know that there’s someone in the school system supporting a fascist right-wing genocide denyer in Ron Banerjee and his crazed uncle (aka “the cha”)

    • Jim

      A) I highly HIGHLY doubt you are a public school teacher as you sound like an idiot troll. That being said, hypothetically if we go by the “if I read it on the internet it MUST be true” rule, as a public school teacher I want to know WHERE exactly you teach so that we know that there’s someone in the school system supporting a fascist right-wing genocide denyer in Ron Banerjee and his crazed uncle (aka “the cha”)

    • Jim

      A) I highly HIGHLY doubt you are a public school teacher as you sound like an idiot troll. That being said, hypothetically if we go by the “if I read it on the internet it MUST be true” rule, as a public school teacher I want to know WHERE exactly you teach so that we know that there’s someone in the school system supporting a fascist right-wing genocide denyer in Ron Banerjee and his crazed uncle (aka “the cha”)

  • Anonymous

    As a public school teacher, I want to thank Ron Bannerjee for speaking up on this matter which is about fairness and preserving class time for secular learning. I have listened to him speak several times and his comments have been fair minded. Taxpayers and teachers are grateful for his input. 

  • TonyAdams

    “We have formed a multi faith coalition with the Christian Heritage Party and Jewish Defence League of Canada. We will work to restore Canadian values of democracy and freedom, which are themselves a combination of both Hindu and Judeo Christian principles.”

    Good luck, Mr Banerjee. I hope you, and other orgs, can be achieve your goals because Canada would be immensely improved if it works. 

    I don’t know if there are any Buddhist orgs, but they too should be asked to join coalition against Muslims and Sikhs.

  • TonyAdams

    “We have formed a multi faith coalition with the Christian Heritage Party and Jewish Defence League of Canada. We will work to restore Canadian values of democracy and freedom, which are themselves a combination of both Hindu and Judeo Christian principles.”

    Good luck, Mr Banerjee. I hope you, and other orgs, can be achieve your goals because Canada would be immensely improved if it works. 

    I don’t know if there are any Buddhist orgs, but they too should be asked to join coalition against Muslims and Sikhs.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bigcitylib-StrikesBack/510717518 Bigcitylib StrikesBack

    The only hindi in the CHA are you and that old guy.  (Naresh?)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bigcitylib-StrikesBack/510717518 Bigcitylib StrikesBack

    The only hindi in the CHA are you and that old guy.  (Naresh?)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bigcitylib-StrikesBack/510717518 Bigcitylib StrikesBack

    The only hindi in the CHA are you and that old guy.  (Naresh?)

  • Anonymous

    Ron Banerjee’s Canadian Hindu Advocacy is an extremist fringe group linked with the far right RSS and BJP party and he has never been able to produce more than two members – himself and his sidekick Naresh Patel. Mainstream Hindu organizations distance themselves from him and the fact that the Canadian media hasn’t looked behind the curtain of his group doesn’t change that. His group is a Potemkin Village, it’s little more than a website and two guys.

  • Anonymous

    Ron Banerjee’s Canadian Hindu Advocacy is an extremist fringe group linked with the far right RSS and BJP party and he has never been able to produce more than two members – himself and his sidekick Naresh Patel. Mainstream Hindu organizations distance themselves from him and the fact that the Canadian media hasn’t looked behind the curtain of his group doesn’t change that. His group is a Potemkin Village, it’s little more than a website and two guys.

  • Anonymous

    Ron Banerjee’s Canadian Hindu Advocacy is an extremist fringe group linked with the far right RSS and BJP party and he has never been able to produce more than two members – himself and his sidekick Naresh Patel. Mainstream Hindu organizations distance themselves from him and the fact that the Canadian media hasn’t looked behind the curtain of his group doesn’t change that. His group is a Potemkin Village, it’s little more than a website and two guys.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ALUT4L34YDGKL35D7H3WUGKZDU rob

    There were dozens of Hindus at the last protest but that black lefty Desouza arrived half an hour before the picket and asked ‘so where’s all the Hindus?’.

    A Potemkin Village could never get this much attention and coverage from the MAINSTREAM MEDIA. And I`m not just referring to this prayer thing either, Banerjee is right, go to their site canhindu.com and you`ll see an awful lot of published material, going back many years. This group is deep and well established and has been so for years, that is obvious from all the activities listed and all the material published.

    Also BigCityLib is racist and should not be allowed to post here, on his blog he makes the same accusation and calls CHA ’2 skinny Hindis’.

    He’s too stupid to know that HINDI is a language while HINDUS are a people.

    Also, is he himself a superstar model? Where does he get off commenting on physical appearance, ie skinny, of people? If a wheelchair Hindu shows up, will he say ‘CHA=1 worthless cripple’?

    His beloved Lie-Berals have been smashed in the federal election and McG will be smahed in the provincials as well.

    Loser.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ALUT4L34YDGKL35D7H3WUGKZDU rob

    There were dozens of Hindus at the last protest but that black lefty Desouza arrived half an hour before the picket and asked ‘so where’s all the Hindus?’.

    A Potemkin Village could never get this much attention and coverage from the MAINSTREAM MEDIA. And I`m not just referring to this prayer thing either, Banerjee is right, go to their site canhindu.com and you`ll see an awful lot of published material, going back many years. This group is deep and well established and has been so for years, that is obvious from all the activities listed and all the material published.

    Also BigCityLib is racist and should not be allowed to post here, on his blog he makes the same accusation and calls CHA ’2 skinny Hindis’.

    He’s too stupid to know that HINDI is a language while HINDUS are a people.

    Also, is he himself a superstar model? Where does he get off commenting on physical appearance, ie skinny, of people? If a wheelchair Hindu shows up, will he say ‘CHA=1 worthless cripple’?

    His beloved Lie-Berals have been smashed in the federal election and McG will be smahed in the provincials as well.

    Loser.

  • Anonymous

    the two examples of Hindus oppressed by Muslims: is an Air India bombing which is allegedely done by some members of the Sikh community, and the hindu temple vanadlized after 9/11 by people who mistook it for Muslim place of worship. Oh yes, the word ‘Muslim” could be added to this sentence, so this must be blamed on Muslims.

  • Anonymous

    the two examples of Hindus oppressed by Muslims: is an Air India bombing which is allegedely done by some members of the Sikh community, and the hindu temple vanadlized after 9/11 by people who mistook it for Muslim place of worship. Oh yes, the word ‘Muslim” could be added to this sentence, so this must be blamed on Muslims.

  • Anonymous

    Congratulations on being able to partner with an organization (Jewish Defence league) which is on the terrorist organizations list South of the border. Bird of same feather, flocking together?

  • Anonymous

    Congratulations on being able to partner with an organization (Jewish Defence league) which is on the terrorist organizations list South of the border. Bird of same feather, flocking together?

  • Anonymous

    So all the other Canadian Hindu groups and temples have failed? Yes, they have, I agree. They failed to be full of hatred aganist their countrymen (and women). What a great failure, indeed.

  • Anonymous

    So all the other Canadian Hindu groups and temples have failed? Yes, they have, I agree. They failed to be full of hatred aganist their countrymen (and women). What a great failure, indeed.

  • Anonymous

    I have now read that even the mainstream Jewish community is defending Muslim prayer accommodation http://tinyurl.com/3tttojx

  • Anonymous

    I have now read that even the mainstream Jewish community is defending Muslim prayer accommodation http://tinyurl.com/3tttojx

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Iftikhar-Ahmad/589971812 Iftikhar Ahmad

    Bilingual Muslims children have a right, as much as any other faith group, to be taught their culture, languages and faith alongside a mainstream curriculum. More faith schools will be opened under sweeping reforms of the education system in England. There is a dire need for the growth of state funded Muslim schools to meet the growing needs and demands of the Muslim parents and children.  Now the time has come that parents and community should take over the running of their local schools. Parent-run schools will give the diversity, the choice and the competition that the wealthy have in the private sector. Parents can perform a better job than the Local Authority because parents have a genuine vested interest. The Local Authority simply cannot be trusted.
     
    The British Government is planning to make it easier to schools to “opt out” from the Local Authorities. Muslim children in state schools feel isolated and confused about who they are. This can cause dissatisfaction and lead them into criminality, and the lack of a true understanding of Islam can ultimately make them more susceptible to the teachings of fundamentalists like Christians during the middle ages and Jews in recent times in Palestine. Fundamentalism is nothing to do with Islam and Muslim; you are either a Muslim or a non-Muslim.
     
     There are hundreds of state primary and secondary schools where Muslim pupils are in majority. In my opinion all such schools may be opted out to become Muslim Academies. This mean the Muslim children will get a decent education. Muslim schools turned out balanced citizens, more tolerant of others and less likely to succumb to criminality or extremism. Muslim schools give young people confidence in who they are and an understanding of Islam’s teaching of tolerance and respect which prepares them for a positive and fulfilling role in society. Muslim schools are attractive to Muslim parents because they have better discipline and teaching Islamic values. Children like discipline, structure and boundaries.  Bilingual Muslim children need Bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods, who understand their needs and demands.
     
    None of the British Muslims convicted following the riots in Bradford and Oldham in 2001 or any of those linked to the London bombings had been to Islamic schools. An American Think Tank studied the educational back ground of 300 Jihadists; none of them were educated in Pakistani Madrasas. They were all Western educated by non-Muslim teachers. Bilingual Muslim children need bilingual Muslim teachers as role models.  A Cambridge University study found that single-sex classes could make a big difference for boys. They perform better in single-sex classes. The research is promising because male students in the study saw noticeable gains in the grades. The study confirms the Islamic notion that academic achievement is better in single-sex classes.
    IA
    http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Iftikhar-Ahmad/589971812 Iftikhar Ahmad

    Bilingual Muslims children have a right, as much as any other faith group, to be taught their culture, languages and faith alongside a mainstream curriculum. More faith schools will be opened under sweeping reforms of the education system in England. There is a dire need for the growth of state funded Muslim schools to meet the growing needs and demands of the Muslim parents and children.  Now the time has come that parents and community should take over the running of their local schools. Parent-run schools will give the diversity, the choice and the competition that the wealthy have in the private sector. Parents can perform a better job than the Local Authority because parents have a genuine vested interest. The Local Authority simply cannot be trusted.
     
    The British Government is planning to make it easier to schools to “opt out” from the Local Authorities. Muslim children in state schools feel isolated and confused about who they are. This can cause dissatisfaction and lead them into criminality, and the lack of a true understanding of Islam can ultimately make them more susceptible to the teachings of fundamentalists like Christians during the middle ages and Jews in recent times in Palestine. Fundamentalism is nothing to do with Islam and Muslim; you are either a Muslim or a non-Muslim.
     
     There are hundreds of state primary and secondary schools where Muslim pupils are in majority. In my opinion all such schools may be opted out to become Muslim Academies. This mean the Muslim children will get a decent education. Muslim schools turned out balanced citizens, more tolerant of others and less likely to succumb to criminality or extremism. Muslim schools give young people confidence in who they are and an understanding of Islam’s teaching of tolerance and respect which prepares them for a positive and fulfilling role in society. Muslim schools are attractive to Muslim parents because they have better discipline and teaching Islamic values. Children like discipline, structure and boundaries.  Bilingual Muslim children need Bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods, who understand their needs and demands.
     
    None of the British Muslims convicted following the riots in Bradford and Oldham in 2001 or any of those linked to the London bombings had been to Islamic schools. An American Think Tank studied the educational back ground of 300 Jihadists; none of them were educated in Pakistani Madrasas. They were all Western educated by non-Muslim teachers. Bilingual Muslim children need bilingual Muslim teachers as role models.  A Cambridge University study found that single-sex classes could make a big difference for boys. They perform better in single-sex classes. The research is promising because male students in the study saw noticeable gains in the grades. The study confirms the Islamic notion that academic achievement is better in single-sex classes.
    IA
    http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Iftikhar-Ahmad/589971812 Iftikhar Ahmad

    Bilingual Muslims children have a right, as much as any other faith group, to be taught their culture, languages and faith alongside a mainstream curriculum. More faith schools will be opened under sweeping reforms of the education system in England. There is a dire need for the growth of state funded Muslim schools to meet the growing needs and demands of the Muslim parents and children.  Now the time has come that parents and community should take over the running of their local schools. Parent-run schools will give the diversity, the choice and the competition that the wealthy have in the private sector. Parents can perform a better job than the Local Authority because parents have a genuine vested interest. The Local Authority simply cannot be trusted.
     
    The British Government is planning to make it easier to schools to “opt out” from the Local Authorities. Muslim children in state schools feel isolated and confused about who they are. This can cause dissatisfaction and lead them into criminality, and the lack of a true understanding of Islam can ultimately make them more susceptible to the teachings of fundamentalists like Christians during the middle ages and Jews in recent times in Palestine. Fundamentalism is nothing to do with Islam and Muslim; you are either a Muslim or a non-Muslim.
     
     There are hundreds of state primary and secondary schools where Muslim pupils are in majority. In my opinion all such schools may be opted out to become Muslim Academies. This mean the Muslim children will get a decent education. Muslim schools turned out balanced citizens, more tolerant of others and less likely to succumb to criminality or extremism. Muslim schools give young people confidence in who they are and an understanding of Islam’s teaching of tolerance and respect which prepares them for a positive and fulfilling role in society. Muslim schools are attractive to Muslim parents because they have better discipline and teaching Islamic values. Children like discipline, structure and boundaries.  Bilingual Muslim children need Bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods, who understand their needs and demands.
     
    None of the British Muslims convicted following the riots in Bradford and Oldham in 2001 or any of those linked to the London bombings had been to Islamic schools. An American Think Tank studied the educational back ground of 300 Jihadists; none of them were educated in Pakistani Madrasas. They were all Western educated by non-Muslim teachers. Bilingual Muslim children need bilingual Muslim teachers as role models.  A Cambridge University study found that single-sex classes could make a big difference for boys. They perform better in single-sex classes. The research is promising because male students in the study saw noticeable gains in the grades. The study confirms the Islamic notion that academic achievement is better in single-sex classes.
    IA
    http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SPLZOB5FGQDSXPJZAZJEJGV2BY Someone In Canada

      Religion has NO place in public schools, period. It is a personal affair.

      Single gender schools are great for grades, but that is not a muslim “finding” It was very common in many school systems not long ago.

      But grades are not the only factor to consider in the school system. Proper integration in the society is also a factor. Single gender schools require constant mixed gender activities to ensure children grow to be fully functioning members of a society that values both genders as equal.

      So failing the effort for mixed gender activities, mixed gender schools are the next best option.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SPLZOB5FGQDSXPJZAZJEJGV2BY Someone In Canada

      Religion has NO place in public schools, period. It is a personal affair.

      Single gender schools are great for grades, but that is not a muslim “finding” It was very common in many school systems not long ago.

      But grades are not the only factor to consider in the school system. Proper integration in the society is also a factor. Single gender schools require constant mixed gender activities to ensure children grow to be fully functioning members of a society that values both genders as equal.

      So failing the effort for mixed gender activities, mixed gender schools are the next best option.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SPLZOB5FGQDSXPJZAZJEJGV2BY Someone In Canada

    The solution is easy, Religion has NO place on the public school system.

    Prayers in the cafeteria? Ridiculous. That’s not a reasonable accommodation.

    Religious bickering has no place in Canada. They (hindus and muslim and christians and whoever else) have the right to self delusion. But non of them have the right to bring religious wars to Canada. Don’t like a secular society? then go leave somewhere else.

    I welcome all atheists and religious people from all denominations who want to live their own faith (or lack off) without trying to shove it on someone else and who want to respect others.

    Canada is what it is because of the liberal secular values it has adopted and further developed. Our school system should teach newcomers why our system is better than the systems people left behind. That would be good education.

    And here I’m not saying it is perfect. But this particular system self corrects over time instead of depending on ancient dogmas.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SPLZOB5FGQDSXPJZAZJEJGV2BY Someone In Canada

    The solution is easy, Religion has NO place on the public school system.

    Prayers in the cafeteria? Ridiculous. That’s not a reasonable accommodation.

    Religious bickering has no place in Canada. They (hindus and muslim and christians and whoever else) have the right to self delusion. But non of them have the right to bring religious wars to Canada. Don’t like a secular society? then go leave somewhere else.

    I welcome all atheists and religious people from all denominations who want to live their own faith (or lack off) without trying to shove it on someone else and who want to respect others.

    Canada is what it is because of the liberal secular values it has adopted and further developed. Our school system should teach newcomers why our system is better than the systems people left behind. That would be good education.

    And here I’m not saying it is perfect. But this particular system self corrects over time instead of depending on ancient dogmas.

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