Jason Kenney strikes back

Paul Wells on why the immigration minister waded into a fight with Amnesty over war criminals, and was in the right

by Paul Wells on Friday, August 19, 2011 8:00am - 73 Comments
The minister strikes back

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Some stories are so odd nobody knows how to handle them. I don’t know how else to explain why Immigration Minister Jason Kenney’s extraordinary public feud with Amnesty International has attracted so little coverage.

Here’s a senior Conservative minister departing from the Conservatives’ normal bland talking points and unleashing a written broadside against a critic. And Kenney’s sparring partner wasn’t a predictable target. It was the Canadian branch of Amnesty, one of the most revered human rights organizations in the world. But that didn’t stop the minister from calling Amnesty’s concerns “poppycock,” “sloppy and irresponsible” and “self-congratulatory moral preening.”

Here’s what the fuss was about: last month, Kenney and Public Safety Minister Vic Toews released the names and photos of 30 fugitives who’d evaded immigration authorities since being found inadmissible because they’re believed to be complicit in genocide, crimes against humanity or war crimes. In short, the ministers were asking the public to help track down fleeing war crimes suspects. The public has stepped up: since the ministers’ announcements, six of the 30 men have been apprehended and three of those six deported.

Amnesty’s two Canadian heads, Alex Neve and Béatrice Vaugrante, wrote Kenney and Toews to “express their concern” about all this. Deporting the men—simply kicking them out of the country—“fails to ensure that such individuals will in fact face justice,” they wrote. “All the deportation guarantees is that the person concerned will be removed from Canada.” What’s worse, the deportees might face “torture, extrajudicial execution or enforced disappearance” if they went home. Finally, Neve and Vaugrante worried about “the fact that these individuals’ faces and names have been so widely publicized,” which could do them “reputational harm.”

Too bad, Kenney replied. Dripping with sarcasm, his letter wondered whether the despots in Iran and North Korea have so thoroughly cleaned up their acts that Amnesty has nobody left to criticize. Why is the NGO “squandering the moral authority accrued” in its campaigns against real tyrants, he wondered, and instead “targeting one of the most generous immigration systems in the world”?

The deportation orders against the 30 fugitives were issued “after formal proceedings during which these men had the right to be represented by counsel,” he wrote. There’s no way Canada could “conduct full-blown trials, at the cost of millions of taxpayer dollars, to prosecute every inadmissible individual for crimes committed in distant countries, often decades ago.” The government’s first duty is to ensure that these people can’t find a cozy haven in Canada. “Your calls for more time, more process, more deference and more protection for war criminals and serious human rights violators . . . come across as self-congratulatory moral preening,” Kenney concluded.

Neve and Vaugrante wrote another letter to Kenney, repeating the concerns raised in their first, a little more delicately this time. But Kenney had left his mark.

Obviously a few things are going on here. First, this is just Kenney’s style. He has almost always preferred attack to defence. And he’ll snap back at just about anybody. Last winter, the Canadian Conference of Catholic Bishops sent him a letter criticizing a bill that set out new penalties for human smuggling. Now, Kenney’s a pretty Catholic guy. But instead of responding to the rebuke with silence or contrition, he gave an interview to the Catholic Register, calling the bishops’ letter the work of “ideological bureaucrats” who “cut and paste” the “ridiculous” arguments of “special interest groups” for the dubious benefit of “pastors who may not have specialized knowledge in certain areas of policy.”

There aren’t three other ministers in this government who could get away with that kind of language aimed at anyone except a Liberal. To stay on Harper’s good side, most would not dare attempt such a sortie. But Kenney is not just tolerated. It’s clear his periodic jabs at critics are valuable to the Conservatives.

The second thing that’s going on here is that Kenney has a substantive point. You don’t have to take my word for it. My colleague Michael Friscolanti has been writing for nearly a decade about Canada’s frustrating inability to keep members of murderous regimes out of Canada even after the authorities have determined they have no place here. In 2004, he and Stewart Bell wrote in the National Post about a federal report that said 125 such characters were still in Canada after they had been ordered removed, raising “new concerns about whether Canada has become a safe haven for perpetrators of crimes against humanity.”

I also found support for Kenney’s position from a surprising source: Payam Akhavan, a McGill University international law professor who resigned from Rights and Democracy in disgust over the way the Harper government stacked the board of that arm’s-length organization. “I read Jason Kenney’s letter,” Akhavan told me this week, “and you know, rhetoric and posturing aside, I kind of agree with what he’s saying.”

There is “nothing in human rights law which precludes publishing photos” of people who’ve been found to be staying in Canada in defiance of orders that they be removed, Akhavan said. On the larger point—is deportation both a necessary and sufficient remedy?—he said: “If anything, as a human rights lawyer, I for a long time have been lobbying Canada to clean up its own act” by working harder to find and remove the sort of people Kenney and Toews have now listed.

Canada’s record on this front has been lousy for a long time. In 1985, Brian Mulroney had to appoint a commission of inquiry under retired judge Jules Deschênes to investigate claims Canada had become a safe haven for Nazi war criminals. The legal regime for handling such cases was toughened up. Apparently not enough.

Should Canada prosecute suspected war criminals instead of kicking them out? Impractical, Akhavan said, for an embarrassing reason: there are simply too many of them. Our courts don’t have the resources. In any case, the events and evidence are too far away in most cases. But Akhavan does part company with Kenney long enough to argue that Canada should hold the occasional trial here, where the alleged offences are grave and the likelihood of conviction in suspects’ home countries is low.

The last element of this story is growing frustration in some circles with Amnesty’s current leadership. In 2005 Amnesty called the U.S. prison camp at Guantánamo Bay “the gulag of our times.” Christopher Hitchens responded that the NGO’s “moral compass has become disordered beyond repair.” Two years later The Economist ran an editorial decrying Amnesty’s “increasingly grandstanding and unfocussed approach.” Salman Rushdie has said Amnesty’s leadership “has lost the ability to distinguish between right and wrong.”

These critiques will be familiar to political conservatives and news to just about everyone else. It’s fair to suspect Kenney saw political advantage in choosing the tone he used. But on the substance he has a point.

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  • Guest

    I note that you failed to mention the incomprehensibility of CBC’s position on the naming of those identified by Mr. Kenney’s department.

  • Anonymous

    So the takeaway from this is that without the political advantage, this whole exchange might never have occurred, and bolsters the argument that identifying these people as war criminals was just grandstanding, as LKO has previously and eloquently pointed out on the topic.  If they are here illegally, fine, deport them under the applicable laws, there was no need to sex up the reason to do so.

    Kenney’s and Toews’ antics on this whole affair are the equivalent of EAP placards:  ”Hey lookit this, we’re doing sumtin!”

    • http://twitter.com/InklessPW Paul Wells

      Uh. They can’t FIND them. Nor could their modest Liberal predecessors. 

      • Anonymous

        I didn’t say not to solicit assistance from the public.  It would have been sufficient to say they were here illegally.  The whole war crimes has the aroma of needless torquing, especially as events have shown the government had no intention of addressing any war crimes allegations, rendering the allegations moot.  

        Additionally, throwing about the ‘war crimes’ term could be dangerous in that either the guilty might go unpunished when they arrive back in their countries, or those that are innocent might be endangered, both cases demonstrating irresponsibility on the part of the government, and incoherence with their stated support to human rights.

        And on the assistance provided by tips from the public, I recall Toews seemed a bit cagey as to how many of the six apprehended were as a result of those . . . so maybe they were able to find some of them on their own after all.

        • Anonymous

          No, it wouldn’t have been sufficient to say they were here illegally.  For the reasons Wells sets out in his piece, we have become so complacent about breaches of our immigration laws that the public that would assist upon being solicited to do so on the basis that certain people were “here illegally” would fit in a smart car.

          • Anonymous

            Hardly.  Wasn’t it the Sun papers or Sun TV that agitated for posting pictures in the first place? (And the government was only too happy to oblige) There’s a fair chance that Levant, Adler, et. al.  would be loudly publicizing such lists (and taking credit for it) regardless of whether the people in question were ineligible to be in Canada due to war crimes accusations or jaywalking.

          • Anonymous

            Lefties are soooo fixated with Sun TV. Why?

          • Anonymous

            And, TSYM, Sun TV is soooo fixated with lefties. Why?

        • Anonymous

          No, it wouldn’t have been sufficient to say they were here illegally.  For the reasons Wells sets out in his piece, we have become so complacent about breaches of our immigration laws that the public that would assist upon being solicited to do so on the basis that certain people were “here illegally” would fit in a smart car.

        • Anonymous

          It’s pretty tough to “torque” war crimes, isn’t it? I mean, the aroma of war crimes pretty much stands by itself, wouldn’t you say? How about just being satisfied that the government is finally doing the right thing, and trying to improve a situation where Canada has never much-excelled. We allowed numerous Nazi war criminals to settle down here after WWII. It’s a practice that has been going on for far too long. Now we’re finally getting serious. If the government thinks they can gain some political points for this, maybe they deserve a few points. 

          • Anonymous

            The government action is a half-measure, and it shows they are not serious.  If these people are implicated in war crimes, why are we only deporting them, rather than extraditing them so there’s assurance they will be held to account for the allegations?  If the offences they committed are that egregious, why is this, of all governments, satisfied to deal with them with what is basically a free pass?

            That is what is wrong with doing something only for the political optics.

            If they were truly concerned with justice and human rights, they would take the appropriate measures.  Otherwise they risk appearing as opportunist and that the concern with human rights is just a big show.

          • Anonymous

            Where do you think they should be extradited to?  If I am not wrong, these people will only be accepted back into their countries of origin.

          • Anonymous

            Where do you think they should be extradited to?  If I am not wrong, these people will only be accepted back into their countries of origin.

          • Anonymous

            The government action is a half-measure, and it shows they are not serious.  If these people are implicated in war crimes, why are we only deporting them, rather than extraditing them so there’s assurance they will be held to account for the allegations?  If the offences they committed are that egregious, why is this, of all governments, satisfied to deal with them with what is basically a free pass?

            That is what is wrong with doing something only for the political optics.

            If they were truly concerned with justice and human rights, they would take the appropriate measures.  Otherwise they risk appearing as opportunist and that the concern with human rights is just a big show.

      • Anonymous

        But why couldn’t Border Services announce this on their own.  Instead they had to stand there looking like props while the two Ministers showboated.  If this government could only get on with the work, and stop the campaigning.

        • Anonymous

          Since you seem to take offense at the form, rather than the substance, I’ll add a few:  Toews’ tie clashed with his shirt and the canapes they fed to the media were stale.

          • Anonymous

            Cute.

          • Anonymous

            Cute.

        • Anonymous

          CBSA has up to now refused to do so. Higher ups in CBSA were worried they’d run afoul of the Charter. Not until the Sun started embarrassing the government did Vic Toewes intervene and order the publication of the most wanted list. In any case, a substantial announcement like this, where publicity is the whole point, it helps to have a couple of cabinet heavy-weights (no, that is not a shot at Jason Kenny’s girth) at the press conference. This is not the kind of work that could just be done quietly. It needs all the publicity it can get to be effective. Most Wanted lists are meaningless unless thousands of people are aware of them and reading them.

    • ehmu

      Your entitlement is showing; when was the last time that you did somethin’ ? 

      How about if you make a positive contribution to the debate, rather than your simple minded taunting swagger.

      We have had no political will to expel human trash from our country.

      I find it encouraging to see a handful of our political leaders rally the masses in this regard.

  • TonyAdams

    Wells  Last week you had to explain that Ford won election which means he is mayor and now this week you explain substance of Kenney letter because your liberal readers are illiterate apparently. 

    Ms Southey’s column on weekend was classic ‘conservatives in mist’ type column. Ms Southey didn’t tackle substance at all, it was all snobbish remarks about tone of Kenney’s letter. I bet Southey is scared of her own shadow and blames ‘scary’ conservatives.
     
    Apparently you have decided to act as sherpa for your Liberal and left wing readers. Good luck to you, you’re doing God’s work.

    Conservatives In The Mist:

    ” ….. whenever I read liberals reporting about the goings-on of conservatives I always get the nature-documentary vibe. A liberal reporter puts on his or her Dian Fossey hat in order to attempt to write another installment of Conservatives in the Mist. I’ve followed this particular brand of reporting for years, it’s almost a fetish of mine. Most attempts fail. 

    Of these lesser varieties, there’s fear (“Troglodytes!”), mockery (“Irrelevant troglodytes!”), condescension (“I had to explain to them they’re troglodytes.”), bewilderment (“Why don’t they understand they’re troglodytes?”), astonishment (Dear God, they’re not all troglodytes!”), and a few combinations of all the above.

    But sometimes they even succeed, to a point. Thus, like the real Dian Fossey, they manage to saunter into the leafy thickets of conservatism, and are welcomed into a band of gorillas. They hold out the equivalent of a banana or maybe a fistful of grubs for long enough and eventually we come sniffing around. We’re intrigued by the creature lavishing attention on us.

    And the reporter eventually begins to feel as though he has been accepted into the band. Eventually, we conservatives grow comfortable enough around them to return to our old patterns. We scratch and fight and do our gorilla things and the chronicler dutifully takes notes.

    The notes eventually make their way into an article for the New York Times or The New Yorker or Vanity Fair.”Who knew?” the readers will say over their morning bagels and coffee in Southampton or Fire Island, “I had no idea conservatives were such intelligent creatures. Why they even have the capacity for emotion and even some rudimentary forms of kindness.

    “http://old.nationalreview.com/goldberg/goldberg052803.asp

    • Anonymous

      I’ve felt exactly the same way for years now. Not for nothing did I choose this avatar. 

      Reporters are still astonished when Harper plays the piano, or drinks a beer, or cracks a joke, or plays road hockey, or scratches his balls, or does some other ordinary “middle-aged Canadian guy” thing. They’re amazed – amazed – at this intelligent, often fun-loving species so eerily like their own.

      And then of course there are the shrill, hand-wringing progressives who live in fear each day of their lives. They’ll never get it, and, well, do we really want them to? 

  • Anonymous

    I don’t necessarily disagree that Amnesty’s position on this is untenable, and that ‘why do you support war criminals?’ is a pretty predictable – and not altogether unreasonable - response. However, I don’t know if a letter to the Minister essentially saying that every person should have the benefit of the presumption of innocence regardless of citizenship status should be connected with ‘the last element of this story’ in the way it has been.  

    It’s a little trite to apply that Hitchen’s quote (which is taken brutally out of context – the original was an ‘if/then’ statement) to this situation. He was basically saying that if Amnesty compared guantanamo to a gulag then they were shockingly unaware of what went on in the gulags.

    Coming out in apparent of support of suspected war criminals may not be good politics, but surely there’s no inherent immorality in coming out in support of due process for all suspects? Attacking Mr. Neve and Ms. Vaugrante’s moral character seems like an over the top smear that I wouldn’t expect in a Paul Wells piece.

    I don’t think it’s fair to accuse them of being unable to distinguish between right and wrong, here. If there’s anything they can’t distinguish, it’s whether it’s best to put practical politics ahead of principles.

  • TonyAdams

    “These critiques will be familiar to political conservatives and news to just about everyone else.”

    I didn’t/don’t have huge expectations of Cons government but I have been shocked and dismayed by Cons inability or lack of desire to advance conservative thought. I think Cons would do much better if they start taking on our liberal elite because there is discontent across the land. 

    Kenney and Bernier seem to be only two happy warriors Cons have and they should be out more talking about ideas and policies. Their hearts are pure, their cause just.

    Discombobulating Southey types is no bad thing and will do enormous good in enabling Canada to properly progress into future. I hope we hear more from Kenney and anyone else who feels like helping conservatism advance in Canada. 

    • Anonymous

      What is a ‘Southey type, Tony?

    • Anonymous

      What is a ‘Southey type, Tony?

      • Anonymous

        Hand-wringing progressive who spends a lot of time being afraid these days? 

      • Anonymous

        Hand-wringing progressive who spends a lot of time being afraid these days? 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CHIBTKOWWSGAR3FPJO5PBHQ5AE Fake

    Payam Akhavan, a McGill University international law professor who resigned from Rights and Democracy in disgust over the way the Harper government stacked the board of that arm’s-length organization.

    I’ve listened to his account of his resignation, and my take was different. As I recall he resigned because he went from the faction representing a majority view, to one representing a minority view, through government appointments. So, rather than remaining a member arguing for the now minority position, feeling that his efforts were not appreciated, he chose to quit.  

    I believe he has also admitted in hindsight, questioning himself whether he made the correct decision, considering whether, in effect, he had abandoned the the President.

    -Dot

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CHIBTKOWWSGAR3FPJO5PBHQ5AE Fake

    Payam Akhavan, a McGill University international law professor who resigned from Rights and Democracy in disgust over the way the Harper government stacked the board of that arm’s-length organization.

    I’ve listened to his account of his resignation, and my take was different. As I recall he resigned because he went from the faction representing a majority view, to one representing a minority view, through government appointments. So, rather than remaining a member arguing for the now minority position, feeling that his efforts were not appreciated, he chose to quit.  

    I believe he has also admitted in hindsight, questioning himself whether he made the correct decision, considering whether, in effect, he had abandoned the the President.

    -Dot

  • Anonymous

    Is there some reason why pictures and names can’t be published of people who are in the country illegally?  They are here illegally, so I assume that, in itself, is against the law (otherwise, its a pretty strange phrase). 

    Is there some reason we have to bring up “war criminals”?  Because that is the argument here, in my opinion.  Not that the pictures were published, not that they are deported, but accusing with no opportunity for them to face the accuser in a court of law.   And if we aren’t going to give them a trial for being war criminals, we oughtn’t to tell the world that we, Canada, is breaking the law by turning a blind eye to war criminals and letting them go free!

    • http://twitter.com/InklessPW Paul Wells

      Here’s the section of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act that forms the basis for the finding of inadmissibility in all of the 30 cases at hand. We can have a fun debate about whether “we have to” bring up war criminals, but the act does:

      35. (1) A permanent resident or a foreign national is inadmissible on grounds of violating human or international rights for(a) committing an act outside Canada that constitutes an offence referred to in sections 4 to 7 of the Crimes Against Humanity and War Crimes Act;(b) being a prescribed senior official in the service of a government that, in the opinion of the Minister, engages or has engaged in terrorism, systematic or gross human rights violations, or genocide, a war crime or a crime against humanity within the meaning of subsections 6(3) to (5) of the Crimes Against Humanity and War Crimes Act; or(c) being a person, other than a permanent resident, whose entry into or stay in Canada is restricted pursuant to a decision, resolution or measure of an international organization of states or association of states, of which Canada is a member, that imposes sanctions on a country against which Canada has imposed or has agreed to impose sanctions in concert with that organization or association.

      • http://twitter.com/saskboy Saskboy K.

        It’s interesting that the Minister has used similar inflammatory claims against George Galloway, and was rightly smacked in court over it.

        And if the government is so concerned about war criminals suddenly in Canada, what about their stance on permitting George Bush and his Admin in the country when they face these charges in American and other foreign territories? Where’s the equal treatment of white people accused of the same crimes?

        • Anonymous

          wow, i had read through like 10 comments before the 1st really crazy one.  congrats saskboy you win today’s crazy comment contest.

      • Anonymous

        To be fair I think the bone of contention here is the distinction between being suspected of committing war crimes and actually being found to have committed them. By my reading, the section you quote seems on its face to require the latter.

        • Anonymous

          Checking up on that that, I now see a section (33) before the one quoted adds that facts in the quoted section include those that are ‘believed on reasonable reasonable grounds…may have occurred’

        • Anonymous

          Checking up on that that, I now see a section (33) before the one quoted adds that facts in the quoted section include those that are ‘believed on reasonable reasonable grounds…may have occurred’

      • Anonymous

        To be fair I think the bone of contention here is the distinction between being suspected of committing war crimes and actually being found to have committed them. By my reading, the section you quote seems on its face to require the latter.

    • http://twitter.com/InklessPW Paul Wells

      Here’s the section of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act that forms the basis for the finding of inadmissibility in all of the 30 cases at hand. We can have a fun debate about whether “we have to” bring up war criminals, but the act does:

      35. (1) A permanent resident or a foreign national is inadmissible on grounds of violating human or international rights for(a) committing an act outside Canada that constitutes an offence referred to in sections 4 to 7 of the Crimes Against Humanity and War Crimes Act;(b) being a prescribed senior official in the service of a government that, in the opinion of the Minister, engages or has engaged in terrorism, systematic or gross human rights violations, or genocide, a war crime or a crime against humanity within the meaning of subsections 6(3) to (5) of the Crimes Against Humanity and War Crimes Act; or(c) being a person, other than a permanent resident, whose entry into or stay in Canada is restricted pursuant to a decision, resolution or measure of an international organization of states or association of states, of which Canada is a member, that imposes sanctions on a country against which Canada has imposed or has agreed to impose sanctions in concert with that organization or association.

  • modster99

    Paul,

    I don’t know what is going on here, but I am finding myself agreeing with what you write more and more.

    I saw a quote one time: “When you are young, if you are not a liberal, you don’t have a heart. When you are older, if you are not a conservative, you don’t have a brain.”

    That made me laugh. :)

  • Anonymous

    Now Honduran victims are asking questions of our government. This shows the folly in just deporting them.

    http://friendshipamericas.org/human-rights-organizations-honduras-have-yet-locate-alleged-war-criminal

    • Anonymous

      Perhaps you should re-read Kenney’s letter (or perhaps read it for the first time):

       ”Let me pause here to correct a common misconception, one shared by many in the press.  These men are not merely “accused” or “alleged” human rights violators; the Immigration and Refugee Board (IRB) does not make allegations or accusations – it makes formal findings of fact and its decisions may be appealed to the federal courts.  Every one of these men was found to be inadmissible to Canada under section 35 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act.  This means that the IRB found that “there are reasonable grounds to believe” that each of these men committed “an offence referred to in sections 4 to 7 of the Crimes Against Humanity and War Crimes Act,” i.e., they were complicit in genocide, crimes against humanity or a war crime.  These findings were based on evidence – including, in many cases, voluntary admissions – after formal proceedings during which these men had the right to be represented by counsel.”

      Perhaps some of your energies here can be better spent putting the Honduran folk in touch with the IRB.

      • Anonymous

        The problem with your side, is that the more you argue that these men really are war criminals. the more the ‘just deport them’ option  becomes  an inadequate response. You can’t have it both ways.  

        • Anonymous

          In what way is “just deport(ing) them” an inadequate response when they are here illegally because there are are “reasonable grounds to believe” they’ve commit war crimes, as determined by a judicial body?  Do you think a more adequate response is to spend millions of dollars to try them here?  Or millions more to incarcerate them here?  If so, why? 

          • Anonymous

            Right on! How long did it take to get rid of Zundel, for example.

          • Anonymous

            Right on! How long did it take to get rid of Zundel, for example.

        • Anonymous

          In what way is “just deport(ing) them” an inadequate response when they are here illegally because there are are “reasonable grounds to believe” they’ve commit war crimes, as determined by a judicial body?  Do you think a more adequate response is to spend millions of dollars to try them here?  Or millions more to incarcerate them here?  If so, why? 

    • Anonymous

      Does Canadian law even allow for trials and convictions for crimes that occurred outside of Canada? Some European country’s justice systems do, but I do not believe ours does. In which case, deporting them is the only option. Simply leaving them wander around Canada because we aren’t able to convict them seems a rather inadequate response. So deportation is the best we can do. And we can’t deport them until we find them. And we can’t find them until we publicize them. Because we’ve failed to find them for years now. Sun TV finally embarrassed the government into action. Good on them to have actually picked up the ball and run with it. If they’re going to use it for political points, well, they deserve points for doing the right thing.

      • Anonymous

        You’ve never heard of extradition?

      • Anonymous

        Didn’t we try and convict someone related to the Rwandan atrocities?  Here, in Canada?  I thought we had.

        But that doesn’t, in my mind, change the fact that Canada cannot round up thirty people already tagged for deportation AND STILL FUGITIVES FROM THAT ORDER HIDING AMONGST US (sorry, but some people have trouble catching the main point) and start criminal proceedings against every one of ‘em.  And we don’t have to.

        They applied to stay.  We said no.  They could have representation and right of appeal.  They lost.  Then they flipped us the bird and ignored our order to leave.  Their a$$es bouncing twice on the ground in the country from whence they came cannot happen fast enough.  The “most-wanted” project has been a phenomenal success.  Better for its success to be applied against “denied probable war criminals” than “denied for failing to have form 435X-2(revised) duly notarized within sixty days of original application” or some such.  As much as I like LKO, he’s just a tad off-base with the concerns he so eloquently expressed in the previous Wells post on this one.

  • Anonymous

    JMHO Kenney is very good at listening to Canadian citizens as he does spend so much time with the public and they have been doing polls on this since 2007.   The fact it makes for good political points, so much the better for him.

    Margaret Wente nails it:

    “Leading this crusade is Amnesty International, a prominent human-rights group that’s gained a reputation as the scourge of dictators and tyrants. Today, it gets more mileage out of scolding Canada. In an open letter this month, it rebuked the government for violating the human rights of the human-rights violators by trying to enforce the Immigration Act. In effect, it wants these people treated as if they were citizens, instead of illegal residents who lied their way into Canada, flunked their refugee-board hearings, and went on the lam.”

    Looks like they are getting serious about deporting all the failed claimants:

    “The agency hopes the new hires will help deport an additional 4,200 failed claimants — bringing a total to 13,400 yearly — for the next three years, according to a pilot project, called the Refugee Reform Initiative, that will involve the RCMP, Canada Immigration, Canadian Security Intelligence Service and Immigration and Refugee Board (IRB).
    The initiative is slated to take affect by June next year, officials said.
    The CBSA, under the initiative, will remove all rejected claimants from Canada in one year after they’ve lost their case. They also plan to track claimants through the “asylum system” and failed ones through a removals program.
    “The situation is exacerbated by lengthy processing times, (which has) further attracted unfounded claimants,” an agency briefing document said, adding the “number of failed refugee claimants exceeds CBSA’s current removals capacity.”
    The failed claimants have had warrants issued for their arrests for missing hearings or appearances before an IRB, the agency said. Most have been in Canada for less than two years and have had their work permits suspended.
    The fugitives do not include 30 suspected war criminals, 1,400 foreign criminals or 20,000 immigration offenders already on the lam from the CBSA.”

    http://www.torontosun.com/2011/08/17/new-border-agents-to-hunt-illegal-refugees  

    PLUS – can’t find the link – they are looking at tracking VISAs so that when someone comes into Canada they know when they have or have not left.    About time. 

  • Anonymous

    JMHO Kenney is very good at listening to Canadian citizens as he does spend so much time with the public and they have been doing polls on this since 2007.   The fact it makes for good political points, so much the better for him.

    Margaret Wente nails it:

    “Leading this crusade is Amnesty International, a prominent human-rights group that’s gained a reputation as the scourge of dictators and tyrants. Today, it gets more mileage out of scolding Canada. In an open letter this month, it rebuked the government for violating the human rights of the human-rights violators by trying to enforce the Immigration Act. In effect, it wants these people treated as if they were citizens, instead of illegal residents who lied their way into Canada, flunked their refugee-board hearings, and went on the lam.”

    Looks like they are getting serious about deporting all the failed claimants:

    “The agency hopes the new hires will help deport an additional 4,200 failed claimants — bringing a total to 13,400 yearly — for the next three years, according to a pilot project, called the Refugee Reform Initiative, that will involve the RCMP, Canada Immigration, Canadian Security Intelligence Service and Immigration and Refugee Board (IRB).
    The initiative is slated to take affect by June next year, officials said.
    The CBSA, under the initiative, will remove all rejected claimants from Canada in one year after they’ve lost their case. They also plan to track claimants through the “asylum system” and failed ones through a removals program.
    “The situation is exacerbated by lengthy processing times, (which has) further attracted unfounded claimants,” an agency briefing document said, adding the “number of failed refugee claimants exceeds CBSA’s current removals capacity.”
    The failed claimants have had warrants issued for their arrests for missing hearings or appearances before an IRB, the agency said. Most have been in Canada for less than two years and have had their work permits suspended.
    The fugitives do not include 30 suspected war criminals, 1,400 foreign criminals or 20,000 immigration offenders already on the lam from the CBSA.”

    http://www.torontosun.com/2011/08/17/new-border-agents-to-hunt-illegal-refugees  

    PLUS – can’t find the link – they are looking at tracking VISAs so that when someone comes into Canada they know when they have or have not left.    About time. 

  • Anonymous

    Soooo Komarade Wells you are with Pravada (CBC) on the side with the Criminals ……………………

    • Anonymous

      Did you read the same article I did? Can you read? 

  • Anonymous

    I can’t understand why illegally entered any non-citizen of Canada should have the benefit of our constitution – within our borders or beyond them   Many of them are in fact like Trojan Horses. Anxious to get in to use our own laws against us.I am with Kenney.  Just kick them out, and why use our resources to do what their own jurisdictions have failed to do.

  • Anonymous

    I can’t understand why illegally entered any non-citizen of Canada should have the benefit of our constitution – within our borders or beyond them   Many of them are in fact like Trojan Horses. Anxious to get in to use our own laws against us.I am with Kenney.  Just kick them out, and why use our resources to do what their own jurisdictions have failed to do.

    • Anonymous

      Yes, in an age where global terrorism, human smuggling etc.  is a threat why the hell should we cooperate with these countries where bad things are happening.  To hell with them.  We should just pull up the draw bridge, close the curtains and drink tea.   

      • Anonymous

        Judging from your previous posts this sounds like it may be sarcasm.  However, I’ll take it as written.

      • Anonymous

        Judging from your previous posts this sounds like it may be sarcasm.  However, I’ll take it as written.

  • http://harebell.wordpress.com/ harebell

    Everyone else is concentrating on one meme in your effort to support Kenney’s response. Which is weird given Kenney’s use of the word “admirer” to describe his regard of a Croatian cardinal who supported nazi atrocities in war time Croatia. Kenney it appears has no problems with rehabilitating the reputations of genocidal maniacs depending on whose company he is in.

    But the other other point you raised to support Kenney’s letter was,
    “…his letter wondered whether the despots in Iran and North Korea have so thoroughly cleaned up their acts that Amnesty has nobody left to criticize.”

    So when it all boils down to it what you and Kenney are suggesting with this zinger is that an excuse of, “well others do it too and far worse,” is fine. As long as we don’t commit atrocities to the level of Iran and N Korea, then leave us alone. Wow way to set the bar guys, just remind me again we are supposed to be a parliamentary democracy that values human rights aren’t we?
    “They did it too,” never worked on my mum when I was 3, why do you think it should work now we are all grown up?

  • http://harebell.wordpress.com/ harebell

    Everyone else is concentrating on one meme in your effort to support Kenney’s response. Which is weird given Kenney’s use of the word “admirer” to describe his regard of a Croatian cardinal who supported nazi atrocities in war time Croatia. Kenney it appears has no problems with rehabilitating the reputations of genocidal maniacs depending on whose company he is in.

    But the other other point you raised to support Kenney’s letter was,
    “…his letter wondered whether the despots in Iran and North Korea have so thoroughly cleaned up their acts that Amnesty has nobody left to criticize.”

    So when it all boils down to it what you and Kenney are suggesting with this zinger is that an excuse of, “well others do it too and far worse,” is fine. As long as we don’t commit atrocities to the level of Iran and N Korea, then leave us alone. Wow way to set the bar guys, just remind me again we are supposed to be a parliamentary democracy that values human rights aren’t we?
    “They did it too,” never worked on my mum when I was 3, why do you think it should work now we are all grown up?

  • Anonymous

    Jason Kenney is best Immigration Minister Canada has had in at least the last fifty years.  Among his many other accomplishments in this portfolio, he deserves credit for finally getting serious about kicking non-citizen fugitives out of Canada.

    On the substance of his letter to Amnesty International, he is 100% correct.  It’s telling that none of his critics have been able to produce a credible rebuttal to the points he made.  Neve and Vaugrante, in their response, merely repeated themselves without addressing the substance of Kenney’s letter.

    As Wells points out in the comments above, it is perfectly valid to bring up “war crimes”, because that is the language used in the  Refugee Protection Act that forms the basis for the finding of inadmissibility in all of the 30 cases at hand.  It’s also perfectly valid to enlist the public’s help in finding these fugitives, because doing so actually gets results.

    • Anonymous

      At least 50 years. Look at the reaction he’s triggering from the usual suspects. He’s really got them in a knot over this. We’ve been scolded into submission by these same hand-wringers and Charter chatterers for so long that we’ve quit standing up for ourselves. Almost like we need to feel apologetic for enforcing our own immigration laws as a sovereign nation. And along comes Kenny telling us that it’s OK. We CAN report suspected illegals and war criminals and the government WILL act to remove them, and it IS the right thing to do as Canadian citizens. 

    • Anonymous

      If you want to get very technical, the Act says that being suspected of war crimes is enough to make one inadmissable to Canada – that makes them inadmissable, but it doesn’t necessarily make them ‘war criminals’. That, presumably, would still require a conviction.

  • Anonymous

    ” … one of the most revered human rights organizations in the world.”

    Context needed. The standard and expectations of honesty are very low

  • Anonymous

    It’s amazing to me how far the left is willing to go to defend these people. Political correctness has surely entered the realm of lunacy.

     
    The good news is Jason K. actually looks like the one sane person in the exchange while AI, the CBC, and all of the other detractors are looking more and more like the left wing fringe element they represent.
     

  • Mike Gillis

    Thanks for this. It was noteworthy, it was impressively substantive, and it clearly did have merit – it’s disappointing no one else decided to write anything about it. And asking Mr. Akhavan was a great idea, that’s quite the endorsement.

    Progress!

  • Anonymous

    War criminals abuse the human rights of others don’t they? In which case, it is rather ironic, though not at all unpredictable, that Amnesty would go to bat for them. 

    • Anonymous

      If you’ve been following this moderately closely, you will have understood that AI’s concern is that with a simple deportation, these individuals might not face justice and therefore be held responsible for their actions.

    • Anonymous

      If you’ve been following this moderately closely, you will have understood that AI’s concern is that with a simple deportation, these individuals might not face justice and therefore be held responsible for their actions.

  • Anonymous

    War criminals abuse the human rights of others don’t they? In which case, it is rather ironic, though not at all unpredictable, that Amnesty would go to bat for them. 

  • Anonymous

    “…self-congratulatory moral preening.”
    He does have a way with words doesn’t he? Or perhaps the staffers who helped him write that do. However that letter came about, it seems to strike precisely the right chord. 

  • ehmu

    Good for you Jason Kenny.  And I support you whole heartedly, in fact I have a collection of Air Miles that I will donate to trasport the persons in question out of Canada.

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