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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/11/18/with-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-645592</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 06:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I think it&#039;s more like arguing that cakes are a horrible thing to eat, and then taking credit for making a birthday party more fun because you brought the cake (while simultaneously being unable to prove that you&#039;re actually the person who brought the cake).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I think it&#8217;s more like arguing that cakes are a horrible thing to eat, and then taking credit for making a birthday party more fun because you brought the cake (while simultaneously being unable to prove that you&#8217;re actually the person who brought the cake).</p>
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		<title>By: OriginalEmily1</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/11/18/with-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-644689</link>
		<dc:creator>OriginalEmily1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 04:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@bb43254b6b95bc49276784564738a407:disqus 

I liked Manning personally....very friendly, gave a good speech, genial, likeable

It was his politics I disagreed with.</description>
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<p>I liked Manning personally&#8230;.very friendly, gave a good speech, genial, likeable</p>
<p>It was his politics I disagreed with.</p>
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		<title>By: Yearn For Reform</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/11/18/with-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-644686</link>
		<dc:creator>Yearn For Reform</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 04:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok. What did you think of Manning, when you met him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok. What did you think of Manning, when you met him?</p>
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		<title>By: OriginalEmily1</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/11/18/with-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-644680</link>
		<dc:creator>OriginalEmily1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 03:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@bb43254b6b95bc49276784564738a407:disqus 

The party came fully-formed...there were no additions from the &#039;grassroots&#039; in spite of all the talk.

They&#039;ve ditched many of them over the years, but they never added anything to the original back porch vision</description>
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<p>The party came fully-formed&#8230;there were no additions from the &#8216;grassroots&#8217; in spite of all the talk.</p>
<p>They&#8217;ve ditched many of them over the years, but they never added anything to the original back porch vision</p>
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		<title>By: I Yearn For Reform</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/11/18/with-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-644673</link>
		<dc:creator>I Yearn For Reform</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 03:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are they&#039;re any particular policy proposals that you feel effectively align with the personal preception your time with reform helped develop?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are they&#8217;re any particular policy proposals that you feel effectively align with the personal preception your time with reform helped develop?</p>
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		<title>By: OriginalEmily1</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/11/18/with-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-644672</link>
		<dc:creator>OriginalEmily1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 03:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@bb43254b6b95bc49276784564738a407:disqus 

Old Tyme Religion...evangelical tent revival stuff...that would never sell in the ROC

A vision of a &#039;Leave it to Beaver&#039;  or &#039;Ozzie and Harriet&#039;  type Canada from the 50s.

Canada as a white christian heterosexual male nation where everyone thought the same way they did....they&#039;ve been shocked to discover it&#039;s not true.

The kind of parocialism that comes from sitting on your back porch in Red Deer and having your buddies agree with you, because none of you have ever been anywhere else.</description>
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<p>Old Tyme Religion&#8230;evangelical tent revival stuff&#8230;that would never sell in the ROC</p>
<p>A vision of a &#8216;Leave it to Beaver&#8217;  or &#8216;Ozzie and Harriet&#8217;  type Canada from the 50s.</p>
<p>Canada as a white christian heterosexual male nation where everyone thought the same way they did&#8230;.they&#8217;ve been shocked to discover it&#8217;s not true.</p>
<p>The kind of parocialism that comes from sitting on your back porch in Red Deer and having your buddies agree with you, because none of you have ever been anywhere else.</p>
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		<title>By: I Yearn For Reform</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/11/18/with-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-644235</link>
		<dc:creator>I Yearn For Reform</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 03:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about the movement in particular did you think was crazy? Please don&#039;t tell me Manning was crazy, the guy seems pretty reasonable in his writings!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the movement in particular did you think was crazy? Please don&#8217;t tell me Manning was crazy, the guy seems pretty reasonable in his writings!</p>
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		<title>By: OriginalEmily1</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/11/18/with-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-644231</link>
		<dc:creator>OriginalEmily1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 03:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@bb43254b6b95bc49276784564738a407:disqus 

I was PC for about 30 years, but as you know they were reduced to 2 seats when a woman became leader.

So I decided to try out Reform....&#039;fresh wind from the west&#039; and all that.   Became a riding president...met Manning etc

Found a party of crazy people. SoCred in disguise.  Left.</description>
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<p>I was PC for about 30 years, but as you know they were reduced to 2 seats when a woman became leader.</p>
<p>So I decided to try out Reform&#8230;.&#8217;fresh wind from the west&#8217; and all that.   Became a riding president&#8230;met Manning etc</p>
<p>Found a party of crazy people. SoCred in disguise.  Left.</p>
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		<title>By: Batman Bacon</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/11/18/with-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-644224</link>
		<dc:creator>Batman Bacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 03:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And now I&#039;m not sure if your trolling or trying to get into a fight with the digital scary guy. The internet sure is a crazy and or mundane place!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And now I&#8217;m not sure if your trolling or trying to get into a fight with the digital scary guy. The internet sure is a crazy and or mundane place!</p>
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		<title>By: I Yearn For Reform</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/11/18/with-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-644223</link>
		<dc:creator>I Yearn For Reform</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 03:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well as someone who greatly respects Manning but wasn&#039;t really following politics when reform was big, I would be interested in hearing from an ex-reformer about why you originally joined reform and what has caused you to depict it as crazy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well as someone who greatly respects Manning but wasn&#8217;t really following politics when reform was big, I would be interested in hearing from an ex-reformer about why you originally joined reform and what has caused you to depict it as crazy.</p>
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		<title>By: OriginalEmily1</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/11/18/with-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-644216</link>
		<dc:creator>OriginalEmily1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 03:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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I&#039;ve been both PC and Reform.

I could still be PC...but Reform is crazy.
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<p>I&#8217;ve been both PC and Reform.</p>
<p>I could still be PC&#8230;but Reform is crazy.</p>
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		<title>By: I Yearn For Reform</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/11/18/with-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-644204</link>
		<dc:creator>I Yearn For Reform</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 02:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh. I seem to have made a mistake. I rescind my prior endorsment of your comment. That being said, I think we can both agree that PC stood for Pretty Corrupt back in the pre-merger day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh. I seem to have made a mistake. I rescind my prior endorsment of your comment. That being said, I think we can both agree that PC stood for Pretty Corrupt back in the pre-merger day.</p>
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		<title>By: OrsonBean</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/11/18/with-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-644203</link>
		<dc:creator>OrsonBean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 02:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s the perfect embodiment of the progressive, tolerant left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s the perfect embodiment of the progressive, tolerant left.</p>
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		<title>By: OriginalEmily1</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/11/18/with-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-644193</link>
		<dc:creator>OriginalEmily1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 01:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Reform hadn&#039;t moved to being PC, they&#039;d still be wandering in the wilderness</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Reform hadn&#8217;t moved to being PC, they&#8217;d still be wandering in the wilderness</p>
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		<title>By: I Yearn For Reform</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/11/18/with-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-644172</link>
		<dc:creator>I Yearn For Reform</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 00:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent point! It&#039;s like baking a cake without joy, but you certaintly take credit for the joy that comes to people&#039;s faces after they eaten your joyful but not joyfully made cake!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent point! It&#8217;s like baking a cake without joy, but you certaintly take credit for the joy that comes to people&#8217;s faces after they eaten your joyful but not joyfully made cake!</p>
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		<title>By: I Yearn For Reform</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/11/18/with-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-644168</link>
		<dc:creator>I Yearn For Reform</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 00:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen. It&#039;s too bad too, those reform partisans were so great until they started interacting with those wretched PCers. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen. It&#8217;s too bad too, those reform partisans were so great until they started interacting with those wretched PCers.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/11/18/with-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-644150</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 23:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s called dog-whistling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s called dog-whistling.</p>
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		<title>By: Batman Bacon</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/11/18/with-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-644142</link>
		<dc:creator>Batman Bacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 23:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure if you&#039;re trolling, or just the scariest commentator on Macleans</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure if you&#8217;re trolling, or just the scariest commentator on Macleans</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/11/18/with-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-644122</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 22:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They don&#039;t govern with statistics.
They never said they wouldn&#039;t take credit for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They don&#8217;t govern with statistics.<br />
They never said they wouldn&#8217;t take credit for them.</p>
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		<title>By: OriginalEmily1</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/11/18/with-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-644100</link>
		<dc:creator>OriginalEmily1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 22:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL that&#039;s cuz their partisans are absurd as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL that&#8217;s cuz their partisans are absurd as well.</p>
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		<title>By: neuroticdog</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/11/18/with-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-644093</link>
		<dc:creator>neuroticdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Probably because to their own partisans, they don&#039;t sound absurd at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably because to their own partisans, they don&#8217;t sound absurd at all.</p>
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		<title>By: OriginalEmily1</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/11/18/with-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-644084</link>
		<dc:creator>OriginalEmily1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The scary part is that Cons never realize how absurd they sound.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The scary part is that Cons never realize how absurd they sound.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Barth</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/11/18/with-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-644069</link>
		<dc:creator>Russell Barth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>shameless monsters these tories. they should all be thrown in jai for their deliberate attempt to increase crime and the spread of diseases. they are beasts - unworthy of the air in their lungs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shameless monsters these tories. they should all be thrown in jai for their deliberate attempt to increase crime and the spread of diseases. they are beasts &#8211; unworthy of the air in their lungs.</p>
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		<title>By: Hester Eastman</title>
		<link>http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/11/18/with-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-644030</link>
		<dc:creator>Hester Eastman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 19:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew Lang ~ &quot;.... uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts - for support rather than for illumination&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew Lang ~ &#8220;&#8230;. uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts &#8211; for support rather than for illumination&#8221; </p>
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